aero

[quote name='Watcher' date='24 August 2009 - 04:09 AM' timestamp='1251101392' post='40148']
Research subjects thoroughly before you spout off nonsense.

There are several theoretical ends to the universe.
The first that comes to mind is a concept referred to as the "heat death of the universe," where the universe reaches a maximum state of entropy. There is no movement. There is no altering from one state to another. Without the movement or exchanging of energy, or "work," in another word, life is impossible. That is but one end to the universe.

You would do well to think more before you speak at all.
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Watcher, I know all of the major theories, big crunch, big rip, that heat death one you mentioned, etc. I was referring to matter. What could destroy the matter in the universe. It is considered impossible after all. In all of those theories matter remains, so how could one determine the the universe actually ends with these things. There probably wouldn't be any life, but there would be other things. And what of other universes? There must be one that is still "cosmos like" as we would define, or maybe even have a completely unique structure. And maybe the "end" is just part of an elaborate cycle of birth and death.

You would do well not to judge someone's post before you grasp how much they know...

[quote name='Watcher' date='24 August 2009 - 04:09 AM' timestamp='1251101392' post='40148']
Research subjects thoroughly before you spout off nonsense.

There are several theoretical ends to the universe.
The first that comes to mind is a concept referred to as the "heat death of the universe," where the universe reaches a maximum state of entropy. There is no movement. There is no altering from one state to another. Without the movement or exchanging of energy, or "work," in another word, life is impossible. That is but one end to the universe.

You would do well to think more before you speak at all.
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Watcher, I know all of the major theories, big crunch, big rip, that heat death one you mentioned, etc. I was referring to matter. What could destroy the matter in the universe. It is considered impossible after all. In all of those theories matter remains, so how could one determine the the universe actually ends with these things. There probably wouldn't be any life, but there would be other things. And what of other universes? There must be one that is still "cosmos like" as we would define, or maybe even have a completely unique structure. And maybe the "end" is just part of an elaborate cycle of birth and death.

You would do well not to judge someone's post before you grasp how much they know...

What could possibly cause the universe to end? There is no end, only a beginning. And what the beginning was or what came after is all speculation at this point. You can debate it all you want but you're not goint to figure it out.

It is a natural human desire to reproduce, as we all know. This desire does not care how much money you have, it only serves to make us happy when we are not happy or when we are bored. During a depression you are both unhappy and bored. So it is logical that there is more baby making during a depression.

What could possibly cause the universe to end? There is no end, only a beginning. And what the beginning was or what came after is all speculation at this point. You can debate it all you want but you're not goint to figure it out.

The bible is like a big anthology of fables, who's entire purpose is to glorify christianity. It's truly incredible how perfect a document it was. It gave christianity great power over most of the people who read it, for most realised the wisdom and the power of christ and were compelled to serve. This allowed the religion to gain great military and monetary superiority over most of the great powers of the age. Which allowed them to grow even more. The religion serves no purpose in modern society, but the bible does. The bible still has life lessons that can be applied today, and even though the religion is dying, the bible will remain useful forever.

I've gone a little off topic i suppose but the fact remains that they are fables, and in fables, no one cares about where cain's wife came from. People should only listen to the story, and not tirelessly attempt to convince christians that their religion is nonesense. (let the hate mail rain down from heaven)

The bible is like a big anthology of fables, who's entire purpose is to glorify christianity. It's truly incredible how perfect a document it was. It gave christianity great power over most of the people who read it, for most realised the wisdom and the power of christ and were compelled to serve. This allowed the religion to gain great military and monetary superiority over most of the great powers of the age. Which allowed them to grow even more. The religion serves no purpose in modern society, but the bible does. The bible still has life lessons that can be applied today, and even though the religion is dying, the bible will remain useful forever.

I've gone a little off topic i suppose but the fact remains that they are fables, and in fables, no one cares about where cain's wife came from. People should only listen to the story, and not tirelessly attempt to convince christians that their religion is nonesense. (let the hate mail rain down from heaven)

[quote name='aero' date='17 August 2009 - 03:16 PM' timestamp='1250482594' post='39669']
I'm fairly certain my logic is sound jester. It may not be the way you would like to think but it is true. I would like you to try and name any instance where anyone has done anything that was not intended to gain something.
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Your logic IS sound, but not for anything like the reasons you think it is...

But as you requested, I will PM you why I disagree with your opinion...

People will never do anything unless they believe there is personal gain involved. When someone works at a soup kitchen, (a free kitchen for the needy and homeless)It is not to help people, but to make yourself feel good through helping people. We are all inherently selfish that way and there is nothing we can do about it. On the other hand, a serial killer does not kill people to kill people, but because they believe that they will gain something from it that outweighs the mental cost of killing someone, which for them is very very low. Because of this there is no evil, only what others percieve to be evil. For no one will ever do anything that they truly believe is evil, unless the gain is greater than the cost. There are no exceptions.

People will never do anything unless they believe there is personal gain involved. When someone works at a soup kitchen, (a free kitchen for the needy and homeless)It is not to help people, but to make yourself feel good through helping people. We are all inherently selfish that way and there is nothing we can do about it. On the other hand, a serial killer does not kill people to kill people, but because they believe that they will gain something from it that outweighs the mental cost of killing someone, which for them is very very low. Because of this there is no evil, only what others percieve to be evil. For no one will ever do anything that they truly believe is evil, unless the gain is greater than the cost. There are no exceptions.