Rustgold Drachorns, Reindrachs & Wind Dragons: Mutual Creature Boost

[Azthor]

Disclaimer: I have not, in any way or fashion, checked the veracity of the data below, it being taken directly from http://magicduel.inv...92-combat-talk/. Should you find any factual mistakes, inform me of such within this thread and this post will be edited accordingly. New suggestions, where pertinent to the topic, will likewise be added.

 

I - It has been suggested that Wind Dragons and GG drachorns Creature Boost each other, but not themselves, it held that their powerful base stats are rendered somewhat meaningless in view of personal stats and tokens, and their inability to benefit from Creature Boost in large rituals, as well as their apparent inferiority as far as Freeze mechanics are concerned, render them a sub-optimal choice mainly held by collectors.

 

II - It is already the case that Wind Dragons boost GG drachorns. It could, the other way around, be suggested that GG drachorns boost Wind Dragons, but not the other way around, though there has yet to be any expression for this particular variant.

 

Note: while I will edit the opening post as necessary, I shall refrain from partaking in the discussion proper, lest my involvement be mistaken for bias, in light of recent circumstances. Should you believe there is anything amiss with this post, you are encouraged to raise your concern, whether privately or openly, and I will do my best to address it accordingly.

 

Index:

 

http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/15716-aurasbonuses-creature-boost-skill-drain-vitality-drain-freeze-antifreeze-tokens-availability-order-opportunity-value/

http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/15721-target-all-creature-diversity-creature-upgrade-value/

Defend, Intoxicate, Martyrism & Protect: Availability, Opportunity Value & Targets

Heal & Regenerate: Opportunity Value, Targets & Upper Limit

http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/15734-rustgold-drachorns-reindrachs-wind-dragons-mutual-creature-boost/

http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/15733-unit-limits-angiens-drachorns-archers/

http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/15748-weaken-defense-lower-limit/

Honor & Negative Stats: Lower Limit

Honor & Balance: Intended Function & Current Application

http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/15763-reducing-the-power-of-freezes/

 

Discussion status: weak consensus.

Edited November 2, 2014 by Azthor

[Ary Endleg]

Windy is hardest to obtain of all drachs yet his use is the lowest, that shouldn't be the case. I think that some sort of buff is needed, this one could work fine in my opinion.

[Azthor]

There has been some expression, in this thread (Ary Endleg) and in the original (Burns) for Wind Dragons and GG drachorns to Creature Boost each other. Though there has been no expression to the contrary, the scarce volume of input does not allow for a true consensus, even as the current consensus remains unanimous.

 

On these grounds, I'd like to urge others to make statements, whether favorable or the contrary, on the proposed changes, particularly Tal, who seems to have done some measure of testing with a GG drachorn and two Wind Dragons.

 

All opening posts have been updated.

[Tal]

win

 

 

Disclaimer: I have not, in any way or fashion, checked the veracity of the data below, it being taken directly from http://magicduel.inv...92-combat-talk/. Should you find any factual mistakes, inform me of such within this thread and this post will be edited accordingly. New suggestions, where pertinent to the topic, will likewise be added.

 

I - It has been suggested that Wind Dragons become potential beneficiaries of a Creature Boost from GG drachorns, it held that their powerful base stats are rendered somewhat meaningless in view of personal stats and tokens, and their inability to benefit from Creature Boost in large rituals, as well as their apparent inferiority as far as Freeze mechanics are concerned, render them a sub-optimal choice mainly held by collectors.

 

II - On the same grounds, it has been suggested that Wind Dragons not only be beneficiaries of Creature Boost from GG drachorns, but also provide a form of Creature Boost to them in turn. Alternatively, they could provide Creature Boost and not be beneficiaries of other drachorns' Creature Boost, or the other way around, as is already partially the case, though that has yet to be suggested by anyone.

 

windy already boosts GG drachorn. or do you mean the shop versions boosting a windy?

 

Making GG boost windy, would still make for a weaker rit then a normal drach rit.  a windy would only do roughly 2-3 times as much damage as a non boosted crit.

 

Making windy boost other windy, you would need 3 of them to get close to to a drach rit. Windy are rare. not many have 3 windy to put in a rit.

even then its inferior to drach rits, due to those having freeze, anti-freeze, and level scare.

 

Windy boosting windy and GG, and GG also boosting windy, you'll get 3 crits that hit all with close to your max stats. Not something we are aiming for.

 

Just more boosts won't make people use it for fighting.

aura's might make it more usefull.

for example a modified level scare:  terror: all crits of opponend use only 40% of stats, boosts morale of friendly crits.

[Azthor]

I've edited the opening post again for clarification. The actual suggestion (I) relates to Wind Dragons and GG drachorns Creature Boosting each other, but not themselves. There has been no suggestion thus far for a Creature Boost interaction between Wind Dragons and the premium drachorns.

 

Auras are a worthwhile consideration, but, in that particular regard,  Freezes would have to be first discussed in-depth, so that a recently buffed Wind Dragon ritual does not then become much more powerful than a Reindrach or Goldrust ritual whose Freeze and Antifreezes have been nerfed shortly after.

 

If Freeze and Antifreeze are unchanged, the idea is for the Wind Dragons and GG drachorn's overall boost to outmatch that of the premium drachorns, though performing worse against high defense values, and lacking the very important Freeze and Antifreeze auras.

 

There, indeed, any aura that achieves a similar effect, by debuffing the opponent's creatures or buffing your creature's initiative, both as you suggested, would be doable.

Edited November 2, 2014 by Azthor