Tremir Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 I have had a thought. We know that the fires of Mt. Kelle'tha have destroyed Alche's body, but left his spirit free to roam. Therefore, if we can bring phrog to the mountain, we might be able to reverse that process to give him a new body. We shall need to utilize the proper Principles for this to work, I think. The use of Syntropy to counter Entropy and allow the process to be reversed The use of Cyclicity to bring phrog back full circle to the place he started from (a physical body) The use of the Elements to create a physical body possibly more Principles and applications I haven't though of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormrunner Posted September 14, 2008 Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 thats a good idea, I can help with Elements and Syntropy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phrog Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 A fire that pulls on my spirit. Powerless to move to what attracts me. HE controls access to what should be my legacy. Nearly saved me, but left me cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormrunner Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 if I ask who "he" is you ether going to not give an answer or one that I will have to figure out aren't you, who is he if you don't say it here please pm me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udgard Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 It might have been Khal, as I once heard him saying to Phrog "u owe me your transformation" or something... Well, with Khal now Grey again, maybe he'll help Phroggie..' Oh, talking about reversing things, here's one of my favorite MD principle use (actually, this is one of the reasons I chose my principles). Principle of Cyclicity : everything happens in a cycle Principle of elements : let's divide a cycle to its composing elements, which is the beginning (or cause) and the end (or effect). Principle of Transposition : transpose the characteristics of beginning to the end, and the end to the beginning. And... done. You've reversed the cycle =b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormrunner Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 true, maybe I'll ask him next time I see him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tremir Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 After hearing phrog's words, this is what I believe: the fire that pulls him is that of Mt. Kelle'tha. HE is MRD, who controls access to Golemus, and who helped the Sentinels destroy phrog's body. Alternatively, he could be talking about the Drachorn's cave, in which case RJ is the one denying him access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormrunner Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 this is starting to hurt my head, so it ether khalazdad, MRD, or, SmartAlekRJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dst Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Maybe it's a conspiracy....and all 3 of them are responsible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Bunny Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 lol.. stop being such a tease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tremir Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 phrog's ghost said: Can a spirit die? I feel weak. It pulls me so hard. They should be mine. He was also looking for a way to get to the Gates of Ages. This convinces me that he needs the Drachorns, and that the one keeping him away is indeed RJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormrunner Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 drachorn are what almost saved him last time right before they left so I belive you are right tremir there are some people other then rj who have drachorns maybe we can get them to help, I have a baby Drachorn it likly wouldn't be any help by its self Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tremir Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 I don't think that a single drachorn, or even a group of them, will be enough. There were drachorns around him before we took him to Necrovion, and it was a temporary help at best. I think we need to get him to the cave itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormrunner Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 if rj does help it going to be really hard, so how can talk him into helping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tremir Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 I've contacted RJ about it, but I haven't heard back from him yet, so I don't know if he's willing to help and if so what his price will be. We also need either MRD or Simply to gain access to Golemus, but none of them are around right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormrunner Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 well, we now know one of us as it close to right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udgard Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 HMmm, what Tremir says reminds me.. when the fest begun and phrog woke up for a while, he went to Golemus and said that "it" would be his eventually. I followed him around during his stay in golemus, but I don't reacall him going to mt. kelletha.. I don't know if this has any meaning, but the place where phrog said that "it" would be his eventually is, if memory serves, the pillars of harmony.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormrunner Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 the dachorn lair is near there as is the cannon but your right mt. is on the other side but yeah he could talking about something though that portal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tremir Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 that's possible, but if it is then it's beyond our ability to help at the moment. There's no way to just start trying random combinations and accidentally hit on the one he needs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Posted September 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Yes... We need someone very powerful.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraday Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Do we know how the portal works, how to activate it? And who said 'it'would be his? Isn't Wodin in control of GG, does he know anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Posted September 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 I don't think Master Wodin knows the code to the portal. Well, entry in the adv log: Page 254 [2008-09-17 02:26:54] A Freezing Firestarter Phrog's spirit hears the whisperings of a few of the people that are good enough to stop and try to help him. He hears one of the ideas being discussed and can't help his excitement. "Yess! Yes! That's it! That's it! Ohh, so close!" I wonder which idea was close.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faraday Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Yes and was it a convo on the forum, or a convo at the Howling Gates lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tremir Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Wodin does not control the entrance to Golemus. MRD does. I don't know if Wodin knows the codes to the pillars, and I still don't think that the pillars are our answer. I still believe it's the cave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treehill Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Hey if anyone suports my idea we could heal him through the cure doc,we would need lots of people with all the cure doc and think of a way to bring his body back,or even make a new one made of fire(that would be cool) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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