this morning i fougth 3 time and wheb i check the log i was a bit surprised

so i won, it count as a victory, but i loss honor for loosing ?

BUG or i misunderstood something?

thanks or the answer

Edit: again, same problem but different situation:

I lose against a stronger player who lose honor but me too

I definetely don't understand...

what happens if you get attacked by someone who would gain honor from you and lose you lose honor because you were supposed to win i think

yes you do gain honor and lose honor from attacking but you can also lose honor but not gain honor from defending

i think you misunderstood my words, look at the screenshots, i won but was penalised for losing ; i can't do both at the same time.

althougth the fourth case, both player loss honor at the same time, how? why?

hoping you understand what i mean. (sorry if i don't express myself clearly, i'm a french user)

I belive the first 3 must be bugs. But the last one is common.

People may attack you and get negative honor if they win. It depends on their balance of won and lost fights and yours.

no bugs that screen shots show you as the defender

all of them so they are not bugs you jsut have to look closer

it clearly says e you and e is defender in all 4 fights

so that is why you lost honor for losing those fights

and it shows you that he was victorious in the first 3 and on the fourth i am not sure why he didnt get a victorious

but sometimes it does show that they lose when they didnt meet the pre requisite for a victory

Its still a bug. If he was defender, and he lost, he should have got a "You retreated" or "Defeated" header. And if im not wrong, he said the "wins" counted toward his counter.

I think when the new system was first implemented I got a few fight records that showed I lost when I actually won or vice versa.. I was a bit confused and wasn't certain if something was wrong or not.

I don't think that it's happened again for me, but this seems pretty similar. I would rewatch the fight and try to figure out whether my ritual won or not and compare it to the results page, and also check if I actually lose the honor. Regardless, I think this is a real bug and a pretty annoying one at that.