Root Admin Muratus del Mur Posted November 18, 2011 Root Admin Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 It is one thing to wait for people to ask you for things to reward, and totally different thing to go out and give wp codes as sponsorships for creative quests you , as a king, see. New players or shy players, will never go and ask anyone to sponsor them. I tried to give you an example through the things i rewarded and the way i rewarded them. I even allowed Treasure Keepers to go wilder than they should have to sponsor quests more and more. Not to mention, as king/queen, it would have been so fun to spread rewards like santa to your citizens. I don't say none did so, i say if you did it you did it few times and on very rare occasions, not by far enough to motivate people to come with creative activities to get sponsored. ........ Pipstickz, Watcher, Sephirah Caelum and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyphis the Bard Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 (edited) I believe that was actually discussed many times, however the guidelines you gave them mean't they had the impression that they where not supposed to. Discussion I started back when this all got started [url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/7608-discussion-on-wishpoints/"]here[/url] The rules you gave the kings was posted [url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/6673-about-wps-and-the-codes/page__st__8"]here[/url] by yrthilian Any you also replied [url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/6673-about-wps-and-the-codes/page__st__10"]here[/url] re-inforcing the rules again. I'm sorry, but I think you are being unfair since the public opinion you helped to create is that they where definitely not supposed to do that. The problem you have here is that new and shy players are generally not going to apply for citizenship. [sup][sub]This discussion goes completely out the window once the players are actually citizens, though >.>[/sub][/sup] Edited November 18, 2011 by Kyphis the Bard Sharazhad and Sephirah Caelum 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Muratus del Mur Posted November 19, 2011 Author Root Admin Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 please correct me if i am wrong (and if i am then its totally my mistake indeed)...have i ever said the kings shouldnt go out and sponsor things on their own? Because thats what i claim they should have done here. The topic you refer to actually reinforces that and the only "limit" i impsoed on kings was that they should sponsor players from their own lands, so that different kings have a role and not one will sponsor all because he is more active than the other kings. Kyphis the Bard, Watcher, Sephirah Caelum and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yrthilian Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 Again this was discussed with you and agreed we could have a treasury account to be created by you. Again another thing you didn't do. You also agreed to help us reward things other than wp's again nothing. Personally I gave away a drac or 2 from my own collection I also gave batches of wp's to citizens to use in quests. I would have also given items but felt that may be an abuse of that ability and not just for golemus but for all. I won't speak for the others but for me I got ignored when I made suggestions of in game ways to give rewards and how I would supply some of the different rewards but again no answere and yes I tried more than once Kyphis the Bard, Phantom Orchid, Sephirah Caelum and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Muratus del Mur Posted November 19, 2011 Author Root Admin Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 again you talk about new things and not about how to use existing things... not to mention that you probably got more 'implemented' than anyone else, considering the clues thing was something we discussed and i actually did. I myself use EXISTING THINGS when sponsoring..but anyway, that should be a good lesson for me not to talk with anyone about what things should or would come as a feature. USE_WHAT_IS Sasha Lilias, Phantom Orchid, Pipstickz and 4 others 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Orchid Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 In my view, the tools given to the kings were now, in general, made easily available for the benefit of the lands. With some imagination and initiative, things like WP codes could have been incorporated into sponsoring quests made by citizens and used as a 'rallying call' to spark interest. Instead, at least in my experience and seeing that of some other quest makers, the onus was on quest makers to ask/beg for sponsorship, instead of announcements by kings saying "hey, I have these WP codes available if you can make a decent quest." Mya Celestia and Amoran Kalamanira Kol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yrthilian Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 I don't speak of new things at all I speak of thinks already in md. gift box's, creatures coins so no I don't speak of new things. You say we wait on new thinks to be added. We wait on old things agreed if kings made the accounts them selfs it would have been a lot worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipstickz Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 How often did you sit around asking Mur for things when you could've been out asking your citizens if they wanted to make quests? You also could have rewarded quest makers for making quests (in an objective way) by saying "If you make x quests, I'll reward you with a WP". Yrthilian, Phantom Orchid, Kyphis the Bard and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yrthilian Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 who said that was not done?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipstickz Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 (edited) Was it, Yrth? Also, this isn't just about you, but all the monarchs. Edited November 20, 2011 by Pipstickz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yrthilian Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Well like I said I won't speak on their part. But yes it was done. Also I never said it was about me but since I was one of the monarchs I have responded. Should I not have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipstickz Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 Would you say it worked as you planned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yrthilian Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 no it certainly did not work 100% as planned but nothing ever does. some things work some dont that is just how it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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