Root Admin Chewett Posted March 20, 2015 Root Admin Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 A lot of the LHO's and people I talked to discussed mentioned some uncertainty about actions that happened within the LHO's. Lets talk about how we can improve this situation. Are there any issues with transparency within the LHO group? What do you think needs to be clearer? Azthor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrian Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) appointment and removal of LHOs, and public explanation of any decisions that are made in regards to the LHO team. even as an LHO i cant say that i know grido's reasons for doing the things he does there could be a public LHO forum section for public matters and for posts that explain various actions and decisions, and possibly for people to raise concerns and questions and to get an answer publically, that is, assuming it gets used. Edited March 20, 2015 by Syrian DARK DEMON, Eara Meraia and Lintara 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeoshattr Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 I don't think transparency can hurt. But I think it can be a bit of a touchy subject. If I may suggest: I think transparency and public announcements (in-game or on the forums; it is not my decision which one is more suitable, and I honestly don't know) should be the default. But, in specific cases of LHO demotion or other events that might negatively influence a player's image, the player should be able to ask for anonymity? I'm not sure how the requests for anonymity should be handled or judged. I'm not sure if this can work, or if it is acceptable to offer this option, or if it's better to just make everything public. It just feels like it can end up with a lot of drama. Maybe a better system would be something like "information on request"? Any player would be able to inquire about LHO internal situations and would receive an answer privately (though it's important, IMO, for this answer to be delivered in a reasonable amount of time)? Would this work? I don't know, to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grido Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Maybe a better system would be something like "information on request"? Any player would be able to inquire about LHO internal situations and would receive an answer privately (though it's important, IMO, for this answer to be delivered in a reasonable amount of time)? Would this work? I don't know, to be honest. The above, whilst not stated publicly previously (indeed though as a result of lack of public statement, it's been rarely acted upon), is something I've always been happy to do. I am a fan of transparency, hence the previous comment, but I often don't realise what people want might want more transparency on. I will happily and publicly answer questions with regard to what I'm doing, or have done. So long as I have a record, or memory of the situation, there is no time limit to requests of this nature. With regard to the public LHO forum, I am happy for it to be used to that end, it currently serves minimal purpose, so it would be good to put it to use. Aeoshattr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimrodel Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 I believe in most cases a public announcement about demotion would mean defaming a person. So, if that 'dirty' side effect is acceptable... Sure. Make it public :3 Rophs and Chewett 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARK DEMON Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) Don't make it public, but at least tell the person you fired why you fired him and why you're ignoring his applications to come back. Edited March 28, 2015 by DARK DEMON Rophs and dst 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rophs Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Don't make it public, but at least tell the person you fired why you fired him and why you're ignoring his applications to come back. I agree, the person has every right to know what they did wrong, but the public only needs to know they are being demoted. Chewett and dst 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curiose Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 Grido told me why my application was denied when I went to him. Think about it: there's only one grido and how many applicants? If you want to know why, ask yourself. DARK DEMON 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARK DEMON Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) If you want to know why, ask yourself. Lol, he ignores 10/11 messages. I normally wouldn't make such a fuss about this. But the audacity to say that he has a good number of the qualities needed for LHO manager, especially after treating me the way he did... Edited March 30, 2015 by DARK DEMON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Chewett Posted March 30, 2015 Author Root Admin Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 It seems that the current process seems to work well then.Formalising it at:Promotion: publicly announce on forum, full details to LHO's so they know what they are looking for ina LHONot promoting someone: privately announce to LHO's, and message to the personDemotion: privately announce to LHO's so they know the reasons, and message to the person---All of this was done, except the telling LHO's privately, which sounds like a good plan. But it has mostly been working from the lack of complaints. Rophs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grido Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 Lol, he ignores 10/11 messages. I normally wouldn't make such a fuss about this. But the audacity to say that he has a good number of the qualities needed for LHO manager, especially after treating me the way he did... If I ignore your exaggeration and the fact that I had actually had a conversation with you regarding the demotion and a few other things... Let's go for the important part of your post and ask you what you consider the qualities are that are needed to be a good lho manager. ------ I can certainly let the lhos know any demotion reasons Fang Archbane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curiose Posted April 1, 2015 Report Share Posted April 1, 2015 Again, DD: 1 Grido. Numerous LHOs and Applicants. Also, Grido has a life outside of MD. And.... you tend to ignore when people tell you things, anyway. So I'm not surprised you refuse to acknowledge what Grido just stated above. ^Especially when you don't get your way perceive that information to be negative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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