Officialization of PWDs and a PWD Adventure Log

[Udgard]

In just a few days, the PWD contest will end. 1st winner will become an RPC. Others will not, at least for quite a while. Due to the contest, however, LOTs of new roles has been created, and many old ones has been updated. Some of them are unique and interesting, others are too megalomaniac and grandeur.

So, I propose an officialization of the roles of these PWDs. The method is simple; using the tags that has been long used to give titles to people. I know it has long been used, but what has happened with PWDs that has existed before the contest is that they are either taking sometime to develop their roles further(I'm personaly taking almost 3 months), or just feel that the title is not worth bothering busy shoeps/mur (and probably receive no response if the PM gets lost among those hundreds PMs).

But with the recent move to roleplay that MD has taken, and fueled by the PWD contest, lots of new roles are spawned, and it would really help if PWD roles that are accepted by the community (the unique and interesting ones, not the megalomaniac and grandeur ones) are officialized and given tags. This would help people recognize others as their role (it's a bit hard to check other's papers each time u see someone new). This would also help players distinguish people with accepted roles with those the community won't accept (er... a Uber Lord of Dragons with the Bloodline of Ancient Demon Kings holding Superly-Secret Powers Waiting to be Awakened). Again I will say, I know that officializing PWD roles using tags has been done before (such as Aleron's Weapon specialist and Calyx's Mistress of the Dojo). What I am suggesting is a mass officialization of potential PWD roles after the contest. It might be even better if the contest if done on a periodical basis to acknowledge newly emerging potential roles that could bring more flavor to the story.

Now, to the second part.

I have been thinking of creating entries on the adventure log for these PWDs (might include RPCs as well). Do you know Dungeons & Dragons? It's something like that. Players decide how they will react when given certain conditions, and a story manager will decide what the outcome is. There might not always be a reward to these adventures, but they can add to the flavor of roleplay (and give people more things to check as soon as they log in =B), and can lead to deeper development to the character roles using the story outcomes. During times, it might even bring certain rewards or affect the mainstream storyline depending on the story.

I know, there would never be enough space to create adventure logs for everyone, but these kind of adventures could include more than one player on each storyline (3-5 players could go on the same adventure as a team, or maybe even on opposing teams). If the community things it is a good idea, I would be willing to help as a story manager. If the Archivists read this, please tell me what you think of these ideas, as you are the ones who understand the AL best.

There, I said it. Everyone, please tell me what you think of it. Thx b4

[mishadowst]

I would love to see an adventure log of them as well as long as its separated from the regular adventure log unless they are major events that fit with the current adventure logs...if that makes sense

[PenelopeLightMoon]

I voted for a new PWD log and "no tags".....but I want tags and was not given that option...so you have half my vote.

I think it's time that there was a way for more common players to adventure and get some recognition for it. Thanks Udgard.

[Chewett]

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[Bootes]

I can't Imagine a PWD Adventure Log being made in Game, so that would have to be something that People do on their own in the Forums. Like Chewett Said with the Current AL anyone can Be mentioned it it, you don't need to Even be a PWD just be Involved in the right things. Sol was mentioned in AL during the Angien (early SOE) business because of his efforts in Game. Though I must admit I don't quite Understand how the AL works in terms of what gets written about (One day you'll see Boo written in the Character Tag, and know that I finally got an Entry).

And I don't see why PWDs can't gain roles like they do now. One thing that would make that more Possible would be an RPC/PWD Manager (Pretty sure there will be one Eventually), Since then you Wouldn't have to constantly bug Shoeps and Mur about Titles and things. I just don't think Mur is ready to give anyone that Title/Ability yet.

[PenelopeLightMoon]

From what I hear now, there is currently a ban on PWR players getting into the adventure log. For obvious reasons.

I think there are a lot of people who go out of the way to do neat things in the regular course of the game though and aren't noticed or remarked there. How does one get into the log?

[Calyx of Isis]

I think there are a lot of people who go out of the way to do neat things in the regular course of the game though and aren't noticed or remarked there. How does one get into the log?

With extreme difficulty.

In the past I think it was because Mur had certain things in mind. But many things in the AL were and are just reflections of people doing their own thing. I think mur asserted some control after the roles got started. As Udgard suggests, he plays dungeon master.

The AL is run a different way now. I don't know how Ren and company choose what goes in. Some of it they make up. This disappoints me given all the wonderful things that take place every day. I think maybe the archivists need to be more watchful or let more player actions flow into the logs. I do think that if we all went and sent i entries to the archivists, the system would totally bog down.

I have a few more ideas on this, but they are best kept to myself for the moment.

[Nova Blast]

In theory it sounds like a good idea, but making adding PWD into the adventure would take alot of effort, then again if it was done infrequently it might encourage players to better their own story in the hopes of getting in the log.

About the tags, maybe a contest to get a title, but other than that, I think it would be a little much.

Besides the game is still in fairly intense development, time is always an issue

So, I chose the "Not at this time option" I think that, for now at least, the RPC/PWR contest is good enough. More contests in the future would be nice though.

[Tarquinus]

I speak only for myself: playing Tarquinus is, to me, its own reward. I like MD very much, and I also enjoy the various forms of rapport I have developed with other players. If someone notices me and feels I contribute to the game, wonderful! If not, no problem! I'm having fun, and I try to help other players feel at ease and do the same.

Sometimes I lay it on a bit thick as Tarquinus, whose Latin cognomen means, after all, "the Proud". But I do try to take hints and speak out of character when the situation seems to warrant doing so.

[Calyx of Isis]

Udgard, I declined to vote as you do not include a vote only for tags. Mur and Shoeps give tags for many reasons. Sometimes it's role playing, sometimes it's to promote/support a new idea in the game, sometimes its... well I'm sure there are many other reasons. My title was reason #2.

I like your suggestion, but the timing is off. I couldn't take the last option in the poll, the idea does not suck. I suspect Mur considers this experiment a big success and that future contests of this type will be held.

Question: In English, PWR would be Player With Role, but What is PWD? I suspect it has meaning in some language other than English. Does anyone kno what is PWD?

[Sol]

Well I chose the 2nd options which is Role officialization of some extent but no adv logs, as if PWR have an advaenture log, it would be hard to handle.

Well getting into the adventure log isn't exceptionally hard... it is hard, but you can get in if you do something related to ongoing evernts and something interesting and unique, maybe you'll get mentioned I got in the adv log as a noob, which I think I was around 15 days old (page 128), so it ain't very very very near impossible hard to get in ^^

And IDK what is a PWD... O.o

[Udgard]

First, let me say thank you to everyone for such constructive feedbacks.

I noticed that my words might have been a bit confusing, and apologize for that. The role officialization that I meant was using tags, so Role Officialization = Tags. I will edit the votes (I dunno if it can be edited, but I'll try) so it would be less confusing.

The tag giving that I meant is done only for ONE time only, which is right after the end of the PWD contest. Having all newly emerging roles officialized using tags would take too much time from Mur & Shoeps. The reason, as chewett has said, people can do well just as a normal player. So instead of checking new roles too frequently, why not do a periodic role-checking? It could be done using the current contest format. And then, at the end of the contest, promising roles gets recognized by the community by giving them tags. I suggested the tag-giving to be at the end of the current contest, which I think would be the perfect timing. They are still normal players by any means, they don't become RPCs, but the community recognizes what they do.

The PWR adventure is not meant to be played by all PWRs. There will only be a limited amount of players doing it at a given time. I know it would not be easy to handle these adventure logs, but I believe that it is possible, as the example shown to us by the Archivist that has done good job with the current AL. What I wanted to achieve with this was give more possible adventures to players who like to play stories (and I'm guessing that those who liked to play stories would have a role for themselves).

I joined the game just a bit before Akasha and Simply finished their adventures. I read their logs, and then I was drawn to read all the adventure logs starting from the 1st entries. At the time, the forum had a Local Legends section, and it made me think that these kind of adventures is what gives MD the strong Role-Playing flavor. There are people out there sent on different quests, and everyone could see and hear their adventures. The recent adventure logs, however, is more focused on adventures which most often are stories of the Alliances on their struggle for power. I like these very much, but I also miss the adventures where people start out on quests that is actually.. "adventure", if you get what I mean. I thought that adding more independent adventure, not focused on the war, would give MD yet another flavor of adventure and create more Local Legends. With the recent release of the inner magic documents, it could as well be a place to use those magics to influence the story.

It is not meant to give people who do exceptional things more chance to get into an adventure log, that has already been done by the current AL. It is meant to give those who love to role-play a chance to go on adventures and share them with the whole community. I had thought of making this on the forums only, but that would limit the ones who could read them to those who go to the forums.

Well, that was what I had in mind. I would really appreciate your feedbacks.

Regards,

Udgard

Edit :

lol, i was wondering what PWD stands for as well =b

[dst]

Guys! have patience. There is a reason for which I asked all of you (the ones who have a role) to post on the last list. I should have not told you that but you seem too...high on the idea...

[Calyx of Isis]

@DST -- LOL I remembered your words. It was one of the reasons I said this was a bit premature.

@Udgard -- I agree with all of your ideas. Mechanisms are being put into place even as we write these posts. As I lay in bed last night I realized what you meant by officilization meaning tags. However the word choice disturbs me. Part of it is because of the different functions tags play.

My tag was created not because I have an "official" role in game, but because it was the only way to create a different kind of alliance than previously existed. I believe it was also Mur's of demonstrating his support for what I was trying to create. I never took it to mean I have an "official" status. Mur also promised "dojo staff" tags to my staff, that others might recognize them. Until and unless I become an RPC I do not have an "official" role. The tag is recognition, as is the adventure log. I think this is the word you really want.

[Udgard]

@Calyx : Thx! ^^ I think that is the word that describes best what I wanted to say.

@dst : Well, I'm glad then =) I thought the last list was only to help RPCs on gathering a list of PWRs for the contest's grading. I'm really happy to hear what you said =)

[Chewett]

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