Kafuuka

If you give everybody a present, safe for one person, you should not be surprised that person considers it a punishment. No dictionary will save you/them from that emotion. [quote name='Rendril' timestamp='1324855146' post='98610'] This is not the case. If you are active both values increase at the same rate, total activity percentage therefore tends to 100 as activity tends to infinity. [/quote] Since people do not live for eternity this argument is pretty silly imo. Looking at the realistic scale of one year, there are situations wherein a player is incapable of recovering AD%. eg someone who played a full year, then skipped two years, will even after playing another full year still be at 50% only. [quote name='BFH' timestamp='1324909983' post='98650'] If we think things with gratitude, we would realize that Santa was a way to gift those who couldn't reach the tree, but were still main accounts, but rather he rewarded everyone. As a matter of fact, it did not existed last year, so we complain if another way of gifting was allowed. [/quote] That'd be nice if it worked. I don't get why the AD% is not counted for the past year only though. That would be an easy solution to remedy the case complained about and I'm currently unaware of other ways people 'cannot reach the tree'. Easy is good sometimes.

Q doc originally cost one or two WP for those who weren't RPCs. Nowadays you don't need to spend wp to get them.

[quote name='Vicarious' timestamp='1312744708' post='89750'] From what I remember, Item transfer between alts is okay. And there was a precedent for this as well with MRAlyon. He had created a bunch with his alts and then gave them to his Main. [/quote] There's an official statement: http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/7531-alt-abuse/page__view__findpost__p__64958

They still show in the current and past wp tab, so i think it works. I spent wp not in the shop (item and Q), and at least one in the shop, for a total of 4 spent according to current and past points. I currently have 5 invisibles waiting for me... if someone who spent four, all in the shop, checks their invisible list, this'll be clear no?

[quote name='Chewett' timestamp='1312522454' post='89543'] there is no disucssion, this has been done before by others and no one raised a query. This is "effectively" selling a wishpoint, but is allowed.[/quote] Technically, this is selling a wish, not a wish point. The way the WP shop works, it is (most often) a bigger advantage to recieve a wp and wish yourself than to receive the wish itself. The distinction might be subtle, yet it exists! From a "legal" point of view it is also important. Second, imagine someone wishes for a spell and then offers to cast that spell on players in exchange for a silver. Each time you make this transaction, are you not selling a percentage of your WP? Sure you could say the uses are infinite (which isn't true, nobody lives forever) or that the percentage is low... How about selling an item created with a WP? Decreasing the value of WP and drachorns? yes it's happening, because there's more WPs distributed. You cannot expect people not to use them, or not to use them for this wish... Looking back at the wp for days topic, it is even more ridiculous to complain WPs are decreasing in value if you were in favour of the idea. @Vic: I wouldn't use it like this just because you got one to spare. New uses for WPs will arrive eventually and probably outweigh whatever coin you can make.

This is quite a tricky debate because there's too many issues at once. WP standards, quest standards, openness, idea theft, veterans, noobs, bias, cheating... I see issues related to each of those words being raised above. I won't try to tackle all of them here, but focus on the WP and quest standards: 1. There is no standard for WPs. We've all seen worse quests be rewarded a WP too and maybe we complained. However I see nothing ever happening like people coming together to debate about what the standard should be? I've heard people complain standards of certain renown questmakers and me, being too high. Now others complain some people's standards are too low. Complaining about an age-old issue after someone does it "wrong" again, is just poor style. 2. There's no standard for quests. Some people will reveal everything up front, some will post an obscure message 'find me in-game'. Some will post the correct answer afterwards, some will never release any information. Some focus on advertising, some on concept, some on scripting... Why put this 'writing contest' against an openness standard but not other quests or even other writing contests?

You might be able to expect a big commotion with tears, fears, swears and whatnot, arriving within two hours. You should NOT want it though. All in all people seem, so far and according to posts and reps, to be in favour of Firs' statement... There is no need, no logical reason to compare to what if it was another person. It'd make you look like a sore looser, only you haven't "lost" yet. On topic. It is mechanically difficult to be part of two structures right now. You cannot be in two alliances at once, even if that would 'make sense' from a perspective as spies, diplomats or just busy jack of all trades. I'm certain lots of people wanted to be able to join two at once. Apparently kings, mechanically and currently, can be part of two structures. It's not something I'd encourage, for many reasons, but I wouldn't be so attached to what might be a by-product of joining an alliance.

[quote name='Udgard' timestamp='1307609527' post='85987'] To be honest I'm still confused what the thread is really about. Is it the shooting down of ideas, or general rudeness when doing so? I'm not doing irony or anything, I'm honestly getting confused on which one is the issue here. Can someone please explain to me? Thx [/quote] Going by rep, there's at least six people who think it is about rudeness. Going by content of other posters seems to indicate shooting down ideas and 'how tough it is to become elite'. I have no idea which logic people use to arrive at the conclusion they ought to explain sharpwind about how to become 'elite'. There is no such recipe. What worked for Curiosa, our beloved example here, won't work for someone else. Trying to worship another tree is definitely not going to work either. I am pretty certain that someone who's been around long enough would realise it already and the topic starter is not brand new at all. If not, there's little hope telling it outright will suddenly work. If I am right, those who're ranting about how to become elite/powerful are doing exactly what is considered the problem: they shoot down a topic without even thinking about what is being said. There are dozens of ways to disrespect somebody. One is to be rude directly. Another to be haughty. Or to be subtle, provoking and relentless at that. One is to refuse to listen (read) what people say and keep talking yourself. It is a tricky thing to discern between genuine mistakes and brutal lack of effort to understand. Yet if it keeps being repeated, the end result will be the same: either you assume people are lazy bums or they are incompetent fools calling themselves elites. I'm still trying to figure out which is worse, but I am positive this is the 'attitude' which is being talked about in the original post. One of the things that drives new people away. Another example of things which can be often read on the forum.

[quote name='TTLexceeded' timestamp='1307468069' post='85900'] I would like to see examples as well but I think you are exaggerating a bit. They dont have god powers, they do abide to the same rules you and I have to abide to. And they do get punished big time when they break the rules. The same way me and you will get punished. [/quote] I think you're reading the post wrong. It is not the question whether people have or don't have godlike powers, it is whether they act like they have godlike powers and are the official elite. It's a bloody old debate that resurfaces all the time: MD is a 'special game' that is 'not for everybody to understand or even like'. Should we be proud? Should we be haughty? Should we be disrespectful to those who try to get the game but have spent only a day or only a month on trying to get it? Do we even understand the game? It is not about the time it takes to become accepted as elite, if such a thing even should exist or be debated. As with all subjective things, it depends on the person in question and the people regarding a person whether they're considered elite. I for one have a distinctly low opinion of some people who in all likelihood are self proclaimed or publicly heralded elite. It is not about new people posting the same old ideas... or even about telling them they're the same old ideas. It is about telling them nicely that, unfortunately, the idea has been shot down before and then explain why. Not just say 'you don't get it because you're a noob'. And no I don't claim everybody does that all the time. Some people do, which is more than would be ideal. I am also under the impression it is not a MD only thing. The word noob wasn't created here.

I for one am glad I wasn't chosen for this quest; not my preference. I personally don't consider this a quest so much as a task. I don't mean that in a negative sense; just calling apples apples and pears pears. Both tasks and quests can merit a reward. Both can be enjoyed, both can be failed or succeeded at... so the difference might be neglible. However I do think that considering this a job with an apt payment, might make more sense to those questioning the 'rules' of it.

[quote name='VonUngernSternberg' timestamp='1303166848' post='83039'] Eh no Duxie, I'm afraid it's [log=Spoiler]Stew bunny is awesome[/log] [/quote] Technically it was [spoiler]Bunny stew is awesome[/spoiler] Which you could (should) check at the GOE. Regardless I can assume you got the right method, seems more like you're trying to avoid that answer to me

I originally intended for there to be a clicky to be used to validate the answer, in case i'm not online to check the forum and all. But seeing as it is a bit of a walk, I'll allow people to post the passphrase here, just ADD SPOILER TAGS around it. That way if anyone wants to try after you finished, they'll be able to enjoy the challenge too. Good luck and have fun. [spoiler]@duxie; nope that's not the phrase.[/spoiler]

Kafuuka 825 AD Patience: check Organised: I subscribe to Chaotic Neutral Why choose me: I make mean/nice quests sometimes, if your quest is mean/nice you can 'get back at'/'be nice to' me if I get to play. Why not choose me: I might win/lose and then the former logic becomes void. Also I have patience but not a huge amount of time. Anything that requires me to be online at specific times is a big nono.

Seriously yrthillian? no arguments? I have used the most classical argument in existence: a counterexample. no facts? I have used one of the sources which is repeatedly stated as the most important ones for facts about MD, even by the person who created the game. Things in MD have to be 'intended'? It is in a perpetual 'alpha' state. There is no such requirement as original intent. A robot is not a 'race'? A robot is not a human. Your premise was stated literally as 'humans only, except if the character was created by Mur' Perobotillo was a player who earned his recognition some time long ago. I don't know how and I don't need to. What matters is only that he invented a non human representation and made it so it was acknowledged. If someone wants to play an elf, you have to at least recognise that it is, in theory, possible.

[quote name='Yrthilian' timestamp='1302029941' post='81926'] MD to me is a realm without races. <...> As far as i can see MD has only one real race but it is assumed the race is Human. <...> This is by no meens an attack on you Sharazhad there are many in game whom claim to be mythical creatures and this is my own personal opinion in regards to MD reality. I could be completely wrong in my view and i am willing to be open minded but i need to see a really good proper reason. [/quote] You ask, therefore I'll deliver. The AL acknowledges robot dogs which bark in Spanish. No elves have been sighted yet, but it clearly refutes your human only premise, even if you add exceptions for the aramor, shade and knator.