[Enchanted Poems]

Willows bend but never break
In the end your heart we'll take
Faces to the hidden wall
With hunter's eyes we sound the call
Fire and Ice shall make our war
Frozen thunder, burning thaw

I wrote that while waiting for the lights to change, and only just noticed that each second line has a single point of punctuation (other than the capitals and spaces) while the others have none...

Edit: Don't really have a doc in mind

[Calling all Slaves ... or subs]

The deciding factor in whether I participate will be the payment the slave is given...

Suggestion: have the payment recieved by the slave relative to the amount of time for indenture, and have the slave set the time for indenture when they are put up for auction (that way the person knows what they're actualy getting)

You could also have various pricing models, for instance "slave x for 5 days starts at 5 silver, or for 4 weeks at 35 silver" (or whatever values you end up using since those values are huge)(for whatever time frames the slave agrees to when put up initialy)

[2 pyramids isnt equal as 1 cube]

Doesn't that actualy mean two pyramids equals two cubes?
Or is it a single voided cube?
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Forgeting the geometric nature of the cube:
Wouldn't of anyone who was able to understand this puzzle, the first cube they saw be a reflection on the person themselves? Whether it was the internal cube you saw first or the external... I would say that a persons inability to solve the puzzle also says something about them, but since almost no one got it that would be pretty hard to define...

[MagicDuel Fair]

I'm working hard to become a bard, and I do a lot of story and poetry telling, singing, dancing, and general merrymaking. I would love to see this fair get off the ground as a place where I can practice my entertainers trade.

Question: The wepon shops in MD... they all mention "stock", and it is (as far as I have seen) always unlimited... if a limit was placed on the stock of each item, say a certain amount each season, and not all items available every season, it would create a similar market environment as with creatures.

Also: It would be cool to actualy get a specific map location for the fair, perhaps with several screens to avoid an overload of haukers (for instance one quarter for Common items, one for specialised items, one for creatures, and maybe one for weapons, with a central location for entertainers and food sellers (food sellers=VE regenerative item sellers). Doing something like this would also allow for things like, say, a creature pen to be put in the creature area, or a forge in the weapon section, where people could go for the most common things, that a begginer would need.

[Broken Pattern Gazeebo interior]

Befor I get stuck into this one, anyone know if there is still any reward to be gained?

[WAR]

Thankyou for posting your position Raven.
My post on [post="54"]Page 3[/post] has been edited, as has the 'conjecture' statement at the bottom of it.

[WAR]

[quote name='Maxim' post='28615' date='Apr 11 2009, 04:32 PM']Yrthilian's also said that there are others that he would not like to see to become the leader of loreroot . And it will be a matter when those he would not like to see DOES become the leader of loreroot . Then it will be war again until a leader that Yrthilian sees fit fills that position . So it might still be a puppet king for Yrthilian might keeps declaring war on loreroot until the person he sees fit became king .[/quote]
The number he stated was three, as far as how many others he would not accept.

Redardless, I am more interested to hear more from Raven, as all of his statements so far have dealt with nothing.

In a war, if you do nothing but attack your enemy, then very soon you will find yourself surrounded and eliminated.
To win, you MUST have defense, and this analogy also extends to politics.

So far, from Raven, I have seen little evidence that he is making any attempt to deal with this issue. All I have seen is him burying his head in the sand, and while I doubt that thats all hes doing, [u]he needs to tell us otherwise[/u].

Raven's almost silence aside, Lucius Tarquinus Superbus' information has been most helpful, and once again I salute your braver and dedication. You have great honour, and my respect for that.

[WAR]

[quote name='Guybrush Threepwood' post='28607' date='Apr 11 2009, 01:59 PM']Slander is an untruthful oral (spoken) statement about a person that harms the person's reputation or standing in the community. (definition, we'll ignore the oral portion)

Are you meaning to imply that any other reasons that Yrthilian may have are fallacious? I do not personally believe that to be true. Perhaps you didn't actually mean slander, but I do find it difficult to believe that anyone could agree that telling a populace an important truth about their would be king would be a bad thing. Much less could I consider someone believing that killing that populace in war would be better than telling them the truth. While I agree that Yrthilian likely has reason to not make other reasons clear, I certainly hope that this is not it, for it would be foolishness itself.[/quote]

I agree with your definition, and also that slander is not the perfect word for the context, however I find myself unable to find a more appropriate one.

Moving on: The purpose was to state that some of the reasons that he may have for not feeling Raven had the ability to lead Loreroot may have been things that would be bad qualities in a leader, but not necessarily bad qualities in a person or player. Because of the nature of communication, almost anything you say about a person in one context can be twisted to fit a completly different context (ie Raven might loose respect from people who have no real reason to disrespect him, only a percieved one)
I was also pointing out that he uses the main points which everyone can understand, and that the other points may be either extremely complicated, or there may be an extremely large number of seemingly unimportant things that only mean something in the context they occured or from a Rulers perspective.

Everything about this war is about perspective and context.

Thankyou Guybrush Threepwood for your question, if anyone else would like to question or challenge my statement, I will be reading the forumn regularly (PM's on this matter will be IGNORED. All discussion with me will be public)

[WAR]

Based on what I have Read on this forumn topic and no other (including those refered to), and on no other information. The following are the stated facts relating to the outbreak and conditions of this war.
If a fact is incorrect, I will require a statement saying so from the original poster of the information, ALL OTHER OBJECTIONS WILL BE IGNORED.

> Yrthilian has declared war on Loreroot for many reasons, and has chossen to state only a few:
* Loreroot has become fragmented, and he doesn't believe the treaty will remain intact for much
longer
* Loreroot has become unstable, and Yrthilian does not believe Raven is the one to make things right
* Political defence of his more well known citizens (MRD). This is stated as the "Last Straw" event,
and therefor only a MINOR motivator
(Yrthilian's statement)

> It has been publicly announced that the advice of .Knator Commander. was denied and ignored, and
that great dishonour was visited upon him when he was requested to be demoted. As such, he has
retired from the service of Loreroot
(Muratus del Mur's statement)

> Yrthilian has declared that war will continue until one of two things occurs:
* Raven steps down
* Raven is assasinated
(Yrthilian's statement)

> While Yrthilian does not feel Raven is the right person to leader Loreroot, he feels they have many
potential leaders in their ranks
(Yrthilian's statement)

> Raven has declared that he will protect Loreroot from unnecesary bloodshed, and has stepped down
(Raven's statement)

> Raven tried to lead as best he can, and the image of a power hungry, selfish and self-centred ruler
he has been portraid as is inaccurate and unfair
(Raven's statement)

> Under Raven's leadership, the Loreroot alliance has begun to repair and restrengthen it's position
and unity
(Raven's statement, supported by others)

> The Loreroot alliance doesn't feel their land is fractured
(Collective statement)

> Many alliances refuse to join this conflict at this point
(Collective statement)

> Lady Ailith has asserted that the claims made by MRD were false. She has confirmed her role in the
affair, however has also publicly made a statement of regret and apology on the matter, and has
removed herself from any Alliance until further notice
(Lady Ailith's statement)

> Many people feel that war is not the best way of going about this, and alternatives have been
suggested:
* Cold War
* Further Mediation
* Regulated Arena fights between champions
* Fights between champions
(Collective statement)

> Guybrush Threepwood wonders if Golemus Golemicarum will wait for the results of the Election
before the attack commences
(Guybrush Threepwood's statement)

> The idea of an immediate attack to finish the issue was denied, giving Raven the oportunity to avoid
either assasination or execution IF he looses the war.
(Burn's statement)

> Golemus Golemicarum feels strong enough to finish this war in four minutes with a single warrior,
sooner without lag
(Burn's statement, not yet supported by Yrthilian)

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The following is purely conjecture based on what I have read in this topic.
THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY ACCURATE.

First, as Yrthilian and the Golemus Golemicarum alliance has stated outcomes and objectives, while Raven and Loreroot have chosen to only question those statements, my opinions may seem to favour Yrthilian more than Raven. This is not intentional, but a result of Raven's lack of appropriate reaction to the changed situation
[b]>>>>>EDIT: Raveen's position has been clarified, this is reflected in the above statement. He has chosen the noble path, and sacrificed his position to spare war from Loreroot. Raven, I salute you[/b]

Second, Yrthilian's refusal to state further reasons for the war than those listed above shows his refusal to engage in slander to sway peoples opinion. He has chosen the most widely know of the major contributors to the declaration of war to justify it. If Yrthilian went around trying to sway people to his side through slander than he would be a very weak ruler, and fighting for the wrong reasons

Third, Yrthilian's refusal to say who he would accept as Ruler of Loreroot is to prevent a puppet king from being established, something which Rhaegar Targaryen stated would be rejected. To do so would be the mark of a bully, and his "stubborn" refusal to state a prefered Ruler, other than that they not be an 'alt', shows him to want the Loreroot people to have a Ruler who has gained the position fairly

Fourth, the specifics of the election are probably one of the most daming for Loreroot of the entire situation. Raven has staged a coup, which shows how fractured Loreroot is becoming. Not only that, but as there are no other contendors for the election, the result cannot be considered a true representation of the peoples choice. When it is a choice of the lesser of two evils in the voters mind (as is so often the case in "democratic" elections), it is very easy for a poor leader to get in.

Fifth, Raven's failure to post a single reply with any attempt to deal with this decision, or lesson the effect on 'his' citizens, other than to ridicule Yrthilian's declaration, do not show the mark of a strong leader. His followers, notably Lucius Tarquinus Superbus, show an admirable loyalty and regard for their duty, and I have great respect for their decision. Tarquinus's decision to not abandon his duty, even when faced with a battle he knows he cannot win easily, and to fight for a leader who has shown little honour here and has come in in the way he has, has gained him and his followers my eternal respect.
[b]>>>>>EDIT: With his decision to step down, Raven has shown great honour, as well as the very qualities that make a man into a leader. Today, Loreroot has lost a man who may have come to be the greatest leader of it's history. [u]NEVER FORGET THIS DAY[/u][/b]

Sixth, As far as the .Knator Commander. situation goes, WHAT THE H*** IS WRONG WITH YOU?!?

Seventh and finaly, The declaration of a total war was necessary because as citizens of Loreroot, you are obliged to protect and support your leader. As has been stated, he was elected by you, therefor YOU are responsible for the results of this election. How this war turns out is not up to Yrthilian, but solely to the citizens of Golemus Golemicarum, Loreroot, and Raven himself.