ignnus

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[quote]Just to clarify, what I said was more personal opinion than proof of any kind. As the CLC statement said, the fact that they don't appear to have any real integration within the realm is only relevant if you can first prove they are being used for alt abuse in the first place. --->WARNING! THE FOLLOWING MAY OFFEND NANCIES<--- To extend my personal opinion, I don't actually give a F***. Yeah, its almost guaranteed that Eon is technically commiting alt abuse. But predominantly that alt abuse centers on tracking abuses, not committing them, so ultimately it helps the realm. And when you look at the wider picture, while still technically alt abuse it doesn't provide any relevant benefit to Eon, so, if you can prove it at all, you will largely be only proving that she is committing an abuse that doesn't help her, but helps the realm. Sure for tracking down people to attack the story is a little different, but ultimately if she didn't have the alts she would just use a different method. Like say, asking people, or looking at where your trail goes, or useing locate, or simply teleporting and movelocking you so you can't run away. The best part of all this was when dst replied to my earlier opinion. None of you would be having this discussion if Eon hadn't gotten Skill Damage. But rather than acknowledge that fact you all dance around it and try to find some other way to blame her, since outright complaining about SD didn't seem to do anything to you (newsflash: craptons happened that the majority of you ignored, even though it was happening in the open. I won't say all of you since I know some of you actually did pay attention, especially Eon) So what, a lot of you don't like the way MD is heading. Tough. MD isn't what it was three, two, or even one year ago. Its the nature of this game. You can't deal with it? Piss off. MD is going to go along fine with or without you. Adapt or die. Yes, that was me blowing my stack. If that offends you, it is mean't to. If it doesn't offend you, then that means your probably one of the people who I actually play MD to hang out with, even if you don't realize it (exception is Pip. I can never tell how you will react. Just because we argue more than not doesn't mean I don't like you, Your one of the people I enjoy seeing the most around MD right now) EDIT: Alright, to clarify the above, I'm not annoyed at anyone in particular, I was actually smiling while I wrote the above. I am annoyed at the irony that, while I generaly find nothing too awful about what Eon is doing (generaly, not always), my tendency to prefer to make posts based on facts rather than opinions presents the opinion that I am anti Eon/dst. Which isn't true. Since I personally can't stand people who act one way in public and another in private, the above post is to express clearly and publicly that, while the facts demand I acknowledge Eon and dst do a lot of abusive things, I personaly don't have a problem with them (the results, I often have a problem with. But that is something I prefer to discuss in private with them, not in public with them, so tough). So yeah, me = largely pro Eon and dst, even though my posts seem to indicate otherwise. Now hopefully I can stop having insane discussions with myself about the double facade I appeared to myself to be presenting... EDIT: Or y'know, not. Since Crazy is often synonyms with fun around MD... EDIT: Oh yes, if you are wondering why most of that initial post has nothing to do with the second prior edits clarification, it is because my brain prefers not to work in a linear fashion. So bleh.[/quote] I can't wait the see greatness of the Eon and dst blowing your face in the future..I'll say adapt or die too.

Sure I agree!Let's stop.

[quote]I vote for closing this topic since it leads nowhere. [/quote] We are just talking here...stop hating for a moment. [quote]I can try to be a LITTLE inspirational. But seriously, I'm not going to let this conversation degrade to the level of a joke. Stop acting like a petulant child and discuss this like a rational human being.[/quote] I'm a very rational person..more than some people can take sometimes. Just be a little more inspirational please..I'm sure I'll see things your way if you force me. [quote]Edit: and I agree with quashen. I was supposed to post one thing, but I ended up having to answer to iggnus. It wasn't to make my posts any higher, though. Quality over quantity.[/quote] You are the first one so by this logic i have right to answer..unless that's not rational.

[quote]I was there. The park wasn't that full. There was me and some people from CotE. Also, just because it's hard doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. The important thing is that you do it, not that it's difficult.[/quote] It was quite full I remember 6-7 lines of people.And I attacked 2 times. [quote]Training is hard, running is even harder [/quote] Thanks for the enlightening wisdom..You don't know what are you talking about. [quote]Sarcasm, I take it. Unfortunately there's not a font. If you stop the moodpanel posts, great. That's one less source of negativity.[/quote] Yeah I'm negative and stopped happy now?

[quote]Quite the contrary, actually. You care a lot about what Eon does. I'm saying instead of "flight", you should fight... or suffer quietly. I don't own you, but I strongly suggest things because I know that running is more frustrating than taking some skilldamage.[/quote] Fight with Eon how?Why is the flight so wrong/bad until we can really fight? I don't care what he does really.I like he contributes and likes the game and that's it. Running is not frustrating it's actually quite good.I doubt you even tried it. [quote]Like needle him, ignore him, etc. I've told you to needle him if you want to complain three times this thread.[/quote] This is hard.Check your own spoiler link..4 cause counts for park full of people. [quote]UNLESS he plays by the rules? I think you mean if he plays by the rules, but correct me if I'm wrong. It seems to me like he's not exploiting bugs or doing anything that the game terms "illegal". So he's playing by the rules.[/quote] Yeah he's great..and I'm sorry about the moodpanels.Won't happen again

[quote]And run if you want to, but you seem to think it's futile as well. Rather than run, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. .[/quote] I want to run,I do run,I don't think it's futile and I think we running away is the best thing we can do.DO SOMETHING LIKE WHAT? [quote]Both times that eon has been needled, he has let it happen because it lowers his skilldamage [/quote] So thanks..He is so understanding...But why the Pm block and attitude..I'm ready to train with him anytime with some cooperation from him. [quote]he targets you because you feel like fleeing.[/quote] I don't care why he does what.I don't have an obligation to....stand and enjoy the Eon's blessing I want to flee because I want to..why is it so bad?You own me or something? [quote]So wait, it both bothers you and doesn't bother you? You have some chance of running away, or else you wouldn't be trying anymore. Eon seems to irritate you despite the fact that you can run, albeit it requires extreme effort.[/quote] It doesn't bother me unless he doesn't plays by the rules..I wasn't the one who started this topic

[quote]I'm just saying that the less you run, the less he'll chase you. It's something you have to learn[/quote] That doesn't make sense to me..I've been attacked by Eon so many times in the park or Goe or anywhere..I got -150 fights in 1 evening only.And I shouldn't run to stir his hunter feelings..Lol what are you talking about? Maybe he leaves you alone maybe not,he doesn't leave me alone anywhere. Needle..he'll just log out when there is a serious threat. [quote]Also, you just said that you gain +30 stats a day, so why does it bother you that much that Eon takes a little bit of that away? I'm saying that you should either sit in a sanctuary, or learn to care less about skilldamage.[/quote] It doesn't bother me at all as long as we have some chance to be able to run away. And we get that by running away.otherwise half maybe and lots of lost fights

[quote]Enough training quickly outstrips the skilldamage provided by Eon and SS. If you're just sitting out in the open, sure... you'll get hurt. But if you are chatting in a sanctuary(which we have plenty of right now), you have absolutely no risk of getting your precious skills hurt.[/quote] So..what are you saying?Everybody should sit on sanctuaries because Eon will come and find them everywhere? Eon likes to chase....I like to be able to train..You like other things..everybody likes something not just Eon. Also,I never saw SS following us in the middle of the maze by the help of the alts. The more we run the more he comes..meaning nobody has any chance of doing anything in the open at all.But you are a genius and you figured out he can't attack at the sanctuaries. I get like >30 stats everyday...and that's why dst and Eon are attacking us.I'm just asking not to use alts for following and not try to threaten people by insults.

[quote]I'm fine debating with them whether my accounts have broken any rules for moving around.[/quote] You know it I know it..what's to debate?

[quote]Ignnus, why do you think everyone is insulting you? I mean, what did Shem say so that you will feel insulted?[/quote] Now suddenly you know a lot about me?Read the first post if you want to see some real insults Cause I'm not using a supporter bias.. he's using the alts that way.

[quote]Don't hide behind first excuse (supporter bias! lol) you can think of.[/quote] I'm not hiding behind anything...And I'm not a lawyer..I'm a player ,just go ask some veteran if Eon's doing it or not before insulting me.Or ask yourself

[quote]if you think eon is 'protected' because of his supporter status, then what about sasha????[/quote] I'm sorry to answer your post!!But Sasha didn't do anything..She asked with her alt to Santa and got ignored,and understood it wrongly in my opinion..And we all expected some super special attention on Christmas and got dissapointed a little bit.

[quote]Why must everyone find SOMETHING to bitch about? It's either me, dst, or Eon. People, stop ****** ******** *****ing.[/quote] Well,I'm okay either way..I won't stop playing the game or anything..but I'm trying to put up a def against Eon in my own way.

[quote]So, the problem here is that... Eon is attacking people again? Eon. Stop that. Stop attacking people. It's mean and naughty! Why can't you just walk away after he teleports you? It's costing him a crap load just to do this to you, so, keep running away, and he will keep finding you. In reality, you are effectively slowing down his training when he is hunting for you. And whenever he buys these stones, he's wasting more and more money. Keep up the good work Eon![/quote] That's the thing here.He couldn't follow us today..We are sorry we'll just shut up,it was a big mistake and let's keep playing [quote]Iggnus, screenshot her threats, and sue her if its so bad. [/quote] She can threaten me all she wants..I don't care...wait..should I sent this to your E-mail?

it's 120+ some other+200 something..you came from the park to US and joining the conversation threatening us

You are pushing me into a corner..I want to train but I can't and I won't give up..you happened to walk your way into MDA cellar with 200 ap?

I can't...but whatever I'm okay with what you're doing..I'm just answering dst calling me a coward here...since you two can't do anything in game as you tried today,you try other methods..that's the thing here. And please use all your methods and ways as you stated instead of namecalling on forums

[quote]Eon never ever said he uses his alts. You, on the other hand, just publicly admitted that you use them. In RL (and why not in MD) this can be considered as a confession and used in a court.[/quote] So I did..but jailing me with this would be a bit too much no? In my defence..I got the alt idea from Eon..and used it like 1 time to be able to talk with my friends on Goe on Christmas [quote]Also what does the screen shot you've attached prove? That there's a player called Eno sitting in a MD scene. Go to fenth's press and you'll find one of my alts in there. Should I be punished for having an alt in there? Check for Peace. She's currently my alt. Should I be punished just because she is in a different ally so I might get some benefits from that (hmm..I wonder how can I abuse you dear Peace ). [/quote] You are like a Mafioso..He does it but we can't prove so he can keep doing it.

[quote](For some reason I'm unable to open the pic in your sig at all, 10 people have downloaded it before though, so shrug)[/quote] More people were saying this..here,i doubt it will stay for long : http://www.imagesocket.com/photos/guest/2381204 and please delete my unwanted posts..I'm out of control lol

[quote]You realize that you've just admitted you use your alts to avoid skill damage on your main. Isn't that the definition of alt abuse? Using alts to benefit for the main?[/quote] Yes just like Eon.

[quote]According to your logic ignnus 95% of MD population should be punished for having alts in different lands. Should I go check where your alts are as well? I am pretty sure they are in different lands.[/quote] There is a difference between Eon and other people..They mostly use it to attend meetings without getting loses and stat damage..like me.Some others I know are planning to integrate their alts as a player..So it's not %95 it's not even %1.I'm ready to get punished as long as Eon stops using them. [quote]As for complaining....it's a paradox actually I'm complaining because they are complaining . Actually no, I'm complaining because they are accusing someone of a certain crime but they fail to bring proofs. In RL this is a crime.[/quote] We are sorry,it happens people give reactions when being bullied so much,just shows your character that you think can do whatever and get away with it .

[quote]If you think that this topic is the result of you saying you'd run away then you lack brain cells more then I thought. Today was the day I had the time to actually talk to you and find out why you keep spamming the panels. And i did find out: cowardice. You think Eon and others (since apparently your posts refer to all paying players) receive protection just because they are supporters. @xrieg: IF you have proofs that Eon is abusing alts then why don't you do something about it? My personal guess (it's a guess and it's personal) is that you don't have iron solid proofs. 50 witnesses as ignuss claims are circumstantial proofs.[/quote] Why don't you stop insulting and be civil for a while?Yes I lack brain cells..because I think Eon should stop his obsessive stalking...and you are helping him who's supposed to be crime detective..He has 5 alts in 5 lands...helping the main and I'll get the screenshots next time..since no one knows about it. not to mention eon's alts have no crits, and all or most of them are in perputual tutorial mode [sharedmedia=core:attachments:3574]