Ron Noesis Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 If the number of the adepts player may have is limited to 30 then more players will have the opportunity to reach and MP6. so, I recommend this change me made. Also, if all adepts are reset every few months it will allow for a far vote for who is the best mentor in Magic Duel. Kyphis the Bard, DARK DEMON and dst 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Chewett Posted July 29, 2013 Root Admin Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 adepts limiting to 30 will stop everyone being a mp6 since peolpe change every day, so every day people would drop. Thats not a stable solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Noesis Posted July 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 ...Also allow adepts to vote on their mentors and mentoring ability. dst 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Chewett Posted July 29, 2013 Root Admin Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 ...Also allow adepts to vote on their mentors and mentoring ability. You can organise this, i look forward to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Noesis Posted July 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 If a mentor does not mention their adepts those debts should be lost, maybe by the chosen mentor should be forgotten. By this I mean that a minimum amount of conversation from a mentor to an adepts needs to be maintained for the adepts to be kept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Chewett Posted July 29, 2013 Root Admin Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 If a mentor does not mention their adepts those debts should be lost, maybe by the chosen mentor should be forgotten. By this I mean that a minimum amount of conversation from a mentor to an adepts needs to be maintained for the adepts to be kept. This is implicit in the system, they will leave the protector.Adepts are easily fluid, you can change around as much as you want, Kyphis the Bard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Noesis Posted July 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 Should we make a protector/mentors total number of adepts visible to all players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARK DEMON Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 In current MD, a Protector isn't necessarily a mentor... Mentors are usually others who spend time with a single person and teach them stuff, whereas a Protector looks after a whole group and may not be able to give as much attention to one person to be their mentor. Change, Kyphis the Bard and Vicious 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Change Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 In current MD, a Protector isn't necessarily a mentor... Mentors are usually others who spend time with a single person and teach them stuff, whereas a Protector looks after a whole group and may not be able to give as much attention to one person to be their mentor. Also, along that line, I'd really like a MP6 that functions like the leader of a pack. Right now Protectors are strongly associated with LHOs in what they do (help/guide new players). While this is great, I believe that MP6 has more potential than this. I imagine MP6 as a way for a bunch of people to organize around a leader who is working towards a certain cause. Thus, all of the adepts could be veterans. I'll most likely write more on this later. Should we make a protector/mentors total number of adepts visible to all players? I'm not sure. An active Protector often already does this manually. While it is a good show of their dedication, the time that they spend updating the list could potentially be better spent elsewhere. I'd personally be for it, though I'd like to hear why this shouldn't be implemented. dst 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARK DEMON Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 They aren't associated with LHO's... its the LHO's who become mentors. Protectors either do nothing, or even if they do stuff for a while, they go inactive later... Pipstickz, Vicious, dst and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Chewett Posted July 30, 2013 Root Admin Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 They aren't associated with LHO's... its the LHO's who become mentors. Protectors either do nothing, or even if they do stuff for a while, they go inactive later... They quite often are associated with LHO's. And im sure a large number of protectors would take great offense to that statement DD. Most of them are really good mentors. Tact. Kyphis the Bard and Aelis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laphers Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 Protectors either do nothing, or even if they do stuff for a while, they go inactive later... So the easiest way to get someone to leave the game is bump them up to mp6? Kyphis the Bard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Chewett Posted July 30, 2013 Root Admin Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 So the easiest way to get someone to leave the game is bump them up to mp6? No, See Peace.Although, it looks like you are being sarcastic, In which case a counter argument is that after peace was mp6, she was a lot less active. Kyphis the Bard and Laphers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARK DEMON Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 I'm simply stating what I observe, regardless of how Protectors had been before me. Aelis, Vicious and dst 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipstickz Posted July 30, 2013 Report Share Posted July 30, 2013 So, that whole topic thing... Straight up limiting the number of adepts people can have isn't likely to happen, but why not tie adepts to worshipers? If the person is not MP6 and you choose to worship them, you can't donate heat but you are stuck with them the same way you're stuck with a protector. Would something like that work, perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyrxae Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 why not tie adepts to worshipers? If the person is not MP6 and you choose to worship them, you can't donate heat but you are stuck with them the same way you're stuck with a protector. Who does this arrangement benefit? People would be left waiting months to be able to switch..better to just prevent heat donations to people who can't be constructive with that heat. Similar things have been suggested before, but why not have the number of adepts needed to become protector be a certain percentage of the number of players active in the realm each day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipstickz Posted July 31, 2013 Report Share Posted July 31, 2013 That's what 30 is meant to be, a percentage of the active people, just as a static number rather than changing all the time. With a changing number, I think it might get confusing, unless it was changed more infrequently than once per day. Actually, I also wonder if this is still in the works, or if it happened and I missed it: Ann. 1877 - [2011-06-23 23:43:24 - Stage 10]MP6 level standby Changes to the MP6 level are pending this summer (hopefully). The new MP6 will be different , in what way i can't detail for now. The following players that are, or recently were MP6 level, will be allowed to chose if they wish to enter the new MP6 once it will be ready, bypassing whatever rules there will be then, regardless if they are still mp6 by that time or not. Call it a no-comment mp6 upgrade token..in fact, this item will be given to them and can be _traded_. It will carry with it same functionality to whoever will hold it when the time comes. Those with such an item will be able to keep it or request mp6 level in exchange of it when new mp6 is ready. Characters: Amoran K Kol, *BFH Lightning*, *Indyra*, (get your items from the TK) P.s.: mp6 will be reachable of course also the normal way, based on requirements. I somehow think it was forgotten. Anyways. What if protectors weren't based on the number of adepts but by somehow the dedication of those adepts to that person? That would encourage a more active relationship between protector and worshiper, and perhaps allow for more MP6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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