petty dodds Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 No spoilers please, just hints or tips trying to defeat the guards and I can't find the right ritual when I read though the battle rounds, what should I be looking for that will give me a better understand of how to take the guards down? or perhaps I don't have the right creatures? my current creatures: imperial aramor aramor assassin (2) dark archer II dark archer I heretic archer aramor grasan II (2) grasan I elemental Barren Soul (2) Joker (2) i have fifteen total at the moment so I can sacrifice and/or pick up another at aramory but so far all i'm offered are archers, grasans, aramors and barren souls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledah Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 Their greatest weakness is their strength :) Maebius and Ackshan Bemunah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maebius Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 LEdah has already quoted the most common hint. But I think I can elaborate on it a bit. Consider the creatures you have, and their abilities. Expand your thoughts to include how those abilities may either synergize or balance or cancel the abilities of the Guards. (note what the guards do to you in the battle log, as well as what you are doing to the guards). Took me a looong time for me to come to the sudden realization of what that hint meant, but then, like all riddles, makes perfect sense. Kudos for trying it yourself. Have patience though, there's plenty of time, and another entrance to that Land if you absolutely, positively, need to see inside with help. :) lashtal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rophs Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 Their greatest weakness is their strength :) In this context their strength is not their ability to hit really hard, it's something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ary Endleg Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 or perhaps I don't have the right creatures? such thing doesn't exist :D technically you can beat them with ANY creature :p it all depends what method you want to use to defeat them Rophs and Ackshan Bemunah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackshan Bemunah Posted February 14, 2014 Report Share Posted February 14, 2014 (edited) such thing doesn't exist :D technically you can beat them with ANY creature :P it all depends what method you want to use to defeat them Don't Grind, it's not worth it. E: Also, I don't think barren souls are going to do you much good if that's all you have. Edited February 14, 2014 by Ackshan Bemunah nadrolski, Rophs, Ary Endleg and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petty dodds Posted February 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 ok i'm still a little challenged on the strength/weakness thing but I'll try again. thanks everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powle Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 in the log most important thing to check is their abilities (damage, random damage, haotic damage, lifesteal, energy burn, heal, regenerate, defend, martrysm, weaken defence) and targeting (random, weak creatures, strong creatures, dying, multiple, all). Then try to think up a ritual to minimaze the damage you get and maximize the damage you make. Also don't be afraid to test all kinds of diferent ritual without hoping to win but instead to help you see what happens in different situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rophs Posted February 15, 2014 Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 Also, attack with random rituals and pray to the Random Number God :P DARK DEMON and lashtal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petty dodds Posted February 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2014 well i attack with random rituals and change the rituals every time and read the battle logs every time and ... pbft... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No one Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Beating the LR guards on your own is the step that will guide you MD life. If you beat them on your own, you have good chances to become a stat addict (grinder) just because you now know how to do it. You will have chose the path of the winners. If you beat the LR guards based on "hints" (or more), you have very good chances to become an RPer. I think that most whiners chose this path. So, before any more "non so spoiling spoilers" are given to you, you have to choose: you want to be a winner or you want to blend in and complain on every thing ? And on topic: There is just one hint that can be given to you for these guards or any other fight from this point on: Their greatest weakness is their strength :) Good luck I hope to see you on my side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARK DEMON Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Beating the LR guards on your own is the step that will guide you MD life. If you beat them on your own, you have good chances to become a stat addict (grinder) just because you now know how to do it. You will have chose the path of the winners. If you beat the LR guards based on "hints" (or more), you have very good chances to become an RPer. I think that most whiners chose this path. True. I regret agreeing to use "other methods" to get past the guards at MP4 when I came to know of them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackshan Bemunah Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Solved it at mp4 twice, only needed help the second time. WAIT.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petty dodds Posted February 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 i am choosing a certain path to defeat the guards and it is from some hinting and also from some of my own machination. but it will require more time and patience on my part. so I wait. thank you all for your sage advice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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