Rophs Posted November 17, 2014 Report Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) Ann. 3180 Priority: 2 [2014-11-17 21:39:13 - Stage 12]THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN DISBANDEDFollowing a series of disagreements between me and them, all council members have resigned. The council therefore has been disbanded. I thank the Council for the incredible efforts put over the past years and for keeping MD alive and organizing it so well. Council members anonymity will be kept secret at all costs, as promised to them when joining. [/size]I shall rule MD alone, with Chewett as second in command. As of now, Chew will be able to take high level administrative decisions, jail, punish, reward, modify and do whatever he pleases in MD, as long as his decisions won't interfere with mine. Chewett's ruling over MD is _independent_ of mine, you should not pass him messages for me or so. My way of ruling MD does not fit with anything that was done in past years, i shall do changes and take decisions that might shock many of you, expect drastic measures. I will not rule md in a democratic way.[/size] What do the players of MD think about this decision? Personally I think it is the wrong step in the right direction. Edited November 17, 2014 by Chewett Quote
Root Admin Chewett Posted November 17, 2014 Root Admin Report Posted November 17, 2014 As a note to the future, please dont create posts with just the announcement number, also add information referencing what its about. Kyphis the Bard 1 Quote
No one Posted November 17, 2014 Report Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) This was "in the making" for a very long time. Even if I don't agree with this ... the Future will judge us all. :P There is still some hope: Chewett. Along with the other responsible players will try to keep MD at bay. :D They will protect us from Mur :D just joking Mur will soon empower a few more players (I think), if so lets give them the benefit of the doubt, I know I will ... at least for a week or 2 ;) Then it is our duty to show them what they're are doing wrong. Keep in mind that we should also let them know when they are doing things right. So, lets have fun. ------------------------- "Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely." This misquote hearkens back to the British Lord Acton, a 19th century English historian who was commenting about tyrannical monarchs (Caesar, Henry VIII, Napoleon, various Russian Tsars, etc.). Lord Acton actually wrote: "Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men." Edited November 17, 2014 by No one DARK DEMON, Kyphis the Bard and John Constantine 3 Quote
Kyphis the Bard Posted November 17, 2014 Report Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) Summary, as well as cleaned and full logs, available below in their respective headings Summary: [spoiler]Q: Will Mur be reading messages? Answered by Mur A: No Q: Will contact@ be monitered? Answered by Mur A: No Q: Is a false "Mur said" statement a serious offense? Answered by Mur A: Yes, insanely so Q: Who "Leads" MD? (ie makes administrative decisions) Answered by Mur and Chewett A: Mur and Chewett, independant of each other; although Mur has Veto. Q: Are the current 3 judges (Ailith, dst, Granos) still needed/valid? Answered by Mur, Chewett, Ailith, dst, and Granos A: Yes, for so long as their activity remains high enough to fulfil their role Q: If Mur is back, why are the judges still needed? Answered by Mur A: Mur has no intention of being fair Q: If new judges are needed, how will they be chosen? Answered by Mur and Chewett A: By administrative appointment Q: How does this change effect title docs? Answered by Mur A: It doesn't, although ex-council members will receive title docs Q: Will the council title docs be visible to the public? Answered by Mur A: Not fully, no, as that would reveal their identity, which is never allowed. They may be released with identifying information removed Q: Will new roles be announced publicly? Answered by Mur A: Yes. Even a Tengri style role will have some sort of announcement associated with its appointment, even if it is not clear that is what the appointment is about Q: What will happen with Trust Points? Answered by Mur and Chewett A: This will have to be reviewed, as Trust Points management is an in depth project that was handled by council Q: What will determine if an existing role needs to be given to someone else? Answered by Mur A: Primarily activity, although everyone is given a clean slate from this date in terms of activity - Mur will only be measuring from now Q: What if someone needs to be unavoidably inactive for an extended period? Answered by Mur A: Announce it on the Forum in advance. This shows you care about your role, and, so long as the time frame is acceptable, your role will not be lost Q: How will WP codes be assigned short term? Answered by Mur A: Mur will be giving promising quest creators a huge volume of WP codes, as a one off event Q: How will WP codes be assigned short term? Answered by community - no official response A: TK will handle general supply of WP codes, Kings and Land Leaders should also maintain a ready supply from TK for their citizens Q: Does financial contribution to MD have any benefit in regards to personal gain or influence in administrative decisions? Answered by Mur A: Hell no, and making such a claim is punished heftily. Financial contribution grants no benefits, at all, beyond the MD Shop and general trade. Anyone trying to use their financial contribution to sway administrative decisions will achieve that goal... by having it count against what they want Q: What about dude2? Answered by Mur A: dude2 is inactive [/spoiler] Cleaned Log: [spoiler] [17/11/14 22:42] Muratus del Mur:Welcome. Lets wait for more to gather before i start. Try not to interrupt me unless you have important questions or remarks. Anyone chatting random in here will be sent far far away. [17/11/14 22:46] Muratus del Mur:First of all, is there anyone here that is willing to take notes and make a summary of the most important things discussed here? (to be posted on the forum or/and announcements) [17/11/14 22:47] Curiose:If no one else steps up, I will. But I'll need a log to go over with as I assume the discussion will be long. [17/11/14 22:47] Ailith:I can take chat [17/11/14 22:47] Muratus del Mur:alright [17/11/14 22:47] Curiose:Thank you, Ailith. [17/11/14 22:49] Muratus del Mur:Ok, so..here we go. First of all thank you all for being here. I understand this is short notie announcement, but sadly i can not wait or do this an other time. [17/11/14 22:50] Muratus del Mur:Currently MD has very few active people, but those that are , are quite valuable in my opinion. [17/11/14 22:50] Muratus del Mur:In the next period i will be doing some dramatic changes to md's social structure , and soon enough also changes to its technical part [17/11/14 22:51] Muratus del Mur:You can say i am going crazy, but i hope it will be fun-crazy, like old times [17/11/14 22:52] Muratus del Mur:I won't be reading messages from you for a while, i want to avoid being 'tainted' by anyone. [17/11/14 22:52] Muratus del Mur:I will however observe [17/11/14 22:52] Muratus del Mur:I was way to democratic in the last period, out of respect for the council, thats no longer the case now [17/11/14 22:53] Muratus del Mur:This is your world now, but its governed by me, get used to it. [17/11/14 22:54] Muratus del Mur:The contact@ email won't be used for a while, i am not sure what to do with it righ now [17/11/14 22:55] Muratus del Mur:I need to remind you all, and most of all to those that are newer and have no clue about it, that using my name in your statements is not something to joke about. [17/11/14 22:55] Muratus del Mur:A single "mur said" used wrong and i will have no mercy [17/11/14 22:55] Muratus del Mur:this is because i won't have to to apply my ruling in an organized form , so many times i will be using one or the other person i find online to do stuff through them, so when someone will use my name [17/11/14 22:56] Muratus del Mur:and claim i said something, then you should be sure i did [17/11/14 22:57] Muratus del Mur:Chewet will be ruling md as well, in his own way, not "for" me, but along with me. I advise him to avoid too much communication with anyone because eventually the chats with you will eat all his time [17/11/14 22:57] Muratus del Mur:but he shall do as he wishes [17/11/14 22:57] Muratus del Mur:any questions so far? [17/11/14 22:58] *Burns*:What if Chewie says left and you say right? Who wins? [17/11/14 22:58] Curiose:Not a question, but a suggestion for the Contact e mail. If I may? [17/11/14 22:58] Granos:So does that free the Judges? [17/11/14 22:58] *Burns*:Always Mur>Chewie, or up to discussion amongst you two [17/11/14 22:58] Muratus del Mur:@burns, i win [17/11/14 22:58] Muratus del Mur:@curiose, yes? [17/11/14 22:59] No one:2. " Mur del Mur: A single "mur said" used wrong and i will have no mercy" - what about Fang ? [17/11/14 22:59] Muratus del Mur:Any question regarding roles will be discussed in the second part of this meeting [17/11/14 22:59] Curiose:The contact e mail could be for Chewett, instead of for council as it was previously intended. That way he does not need to use personal communication means. [17/11/14 22:59] *Chewett*:I have an email [17/11/14 22:59] *Chewett*:coder@magicduel.com [17/11/14 22:59] Curiose:Okay. Disregard that then. [17/11/14 22:59] Muratus del Mur:he has one [17/11/14 22:59] *Chewett*:also chewett@ [17/11/14 23:00] Muratus del Mur:I think its best to put a autoresponder on the contact email to explain there is nobody there to answer [17/11/14 23:00] Muratus del Mur:I do not care of contact from the outside (advertising offers, deals, etc) ..that email is inteded for inside people only [17/11/14 23:00] Muratus del Mur:and for now it is a reality that your emails won't be answered [17/11/14 23:00] Curiose:Makes sense. Thank you. [17/11/14 23:00] Muratus del Mur:To compensate that, i shall be doing meetings occasionally, and use the forum [17/11/14 23:01] Muratus del Mur:Now about roles. [17/11/14 23:01] Muratus del Mur:I saw some major problems in md right now. Some could have been solved with an axe [17/11/14 23:02] Muratus del Mur:other problems are more delicate [17/11/14 23:02] *Chewett*:Indeed, Off goes Murs Head. [17/11/14 23:02] No one:cut my role/tag, I am not joking [17/11/14 23:02] Muratus del Mur:i take gladly the role of the one you can all blame [17/11/14 23:03] Muratus del Mur:Here is a volunteer for my first example [17/11/14 23:03] No one:thank you [17/11/14 23:03] Muratus del Mur:Things like that, such ..attitude..will be treated accordingly [17/11/14 23:04] Muratus del Mur: (no one tag and description removed as requested) [17/11/14 23:04] No one:Thank you [17/11/14 23:04] Muratus del Mur:I don't have time or nerves for any of your moods [17/11/14 23:05] Muratus del Mur:so if you do not appreciate or value your own character , why should i or anyone [17/11/14 23:05] No one:I do appreciate it, quite very much [17/11/14 23:05] No one:you gave me the role, I tried it, and you disregard me or my attepmts for my role [17/11/14 23:05] No one:it is not fit for me [17/11/14 23:06] Muratus del Mur:ok we got that sorted out then [17/11/14 23:06] No one:that's why I thank you for relieving me of it [17/11/14 23:06] No one:indeed, ( a very honest) thank you [17/11/14 23:06] Muratus del Mur:anyone else wishes somethig shopped off ? [17/11/14 23:06] No one:I promise not to interrupt again [17/11/14 23:07] Muratus del Mur: (thanks) [17/11/14 23:07] dst:judges [17/11/14 23:07] dst:I believe Granos raised the same issue at the beginning [17/11/14 23:07] Muratus del Mur:Ok, we have lots and lots of things that need to be dealt with...i honestly don't know how council managed to take care of eeevveeryything so far [17/11/14 23:07] Ailith:If you are back, then we are not needed? *smiles* [17/11/14 23:08] *Chewett*:They were amazingly good [17/11/14 23:08] Muratus del Mur:judges, they are very much needed, in fact their role will be much more important now than before [17/11/14 23:08] Muratus del Mur:because my judging _won't be fair_ [17/11/14 23:09] dst:and you think judges will? [17/11/14 23:09] Muratus del Mur:so if you are lucky enough to reach a trial and a judges decision ..good for you..because if i sense anything wrong myself , i will be applying some absurd punishment WITHOUT warning or fair trial [17/11/14 23:09] Aeoshattr:I dare intervene and say judges should be elected on the basis of their objectiveness. [17/11/14 23:10] Muratus del Mur:i don't say judges will be fair, but they will try to be [17/11/14 23:10] Muratus del Mur:Chew..do you think judges should be elected or appointed? [17/11/14 23:11] *Chewett*:appointed, elections never worked on MD [17/11/14 23:11] *Chewett*:See public council, we elected a load of friendly people who didnt really make decisions [17/11/14 23:11] Muratus del Mur:so you say judges are pointless? [17/11/14 23:12] *Chewett*:No... [17/11/14 23:12] *Chewett*:How did you even read that from what I said? [17/11/14 23:12] No one:no, just to be appointed [17/11/14 23:12] *Burns*:You just said you're going to be un-democratic, and now you consider election? :)) [17/11/14 23:12] *Chewett*:Electing judges will get friendly people who can get votes and NOT people who will be good judges [17/11/14 23:12] Muratus del Mur:yes, why not, i want a reaction before i take MY decision...who said i will respet any voting [17/11/14 23:13] Muratus del Mur:my point exactly chew [17/11/14 23:13] *Chewett*:Thats my point, bugger off [17/11/14 23:13] Muratus del Mur:I believe judges are very needed...but i also think their scope and methods should be greatly adjusted [17/11/14 23:14] Muratus del Mur:anyone has a problem with the current judges? [17/11/14 23:14] *Chewett*:Yeah [17/11/14 23:14] *Chewett*:While I love ailith and GRanos I am unsure of their activitiy [17/11/14 23:14] Muratus del Mur:i'm listening [17/11/14 23:14] *Chewett*:In that, the last time I saw granos, was ages ago [17/11/14 23:15] *Chewett*:Ailith is back for a while now, so tahts good [17/11/14 23:15] *Chewett*:But I cannot dispresct someone for being busy, so I woudl keep them [17/11/14 23:15] *Chewett*:But as a "note" [17/11/14 23:15] Muratus del Mur:granos, comments? [17/11/14 23:15] Granos:I hide, but if it is deemed I am to be replaced, so be it. [17/11/14 23:15] *Chewett*:Indeed, he has quite possibly just been hidden [17/11/14 23:15] *Burns*:It can also be a valueable trait to have 1 judge who isn't up to speed on everything, he might have a better eye for the exact issue at hand. [17/11/14 23:15] *Chewett*:I wouldnt like to delcare me seeing people judges their activity [17/11/14 23:15] Muratus del Mur:yes, i do that too normally, ..i want to hear granos out first [17/11/14 23:16] *Eagle Eye*:not replacing adding will be good [17/11/14 23:16] Muratus del Mur:its simple...granos..to you consider yourself active enough to keep the role? [17/11/14 23:16] Granos:Being a judge or not will not really have any effect of what I do or do not do, I still keep track of things silently. I leave the choice with Mur. [17/11/14 23:19] Muratus del Mur:i think you are ok as a judge, if i will see you vanish for too long i might re-assign the role, but as burns said, its good to have also a s [17/11/14 23:20] Muratus del Mur:also someone that is less involved in daily activity [17/11/14 23:20] Muratus del Mur:ok, something very important: [17/11/14 23:20] Muratus del Mur:i will be assigning roles, to almost random people that i think willing and fit [17/11/14 23:21] Muratus del Mur:these roles will be all taken away as easy as they where given if i see you are not good enough to keep them [17/11/14 23:21] Muratus del Mur:right now many things need someoe to handle them [17/11/14 23:22] Muratus del Mur:anything anyone has to say about current roles? [17/11/14 23:23] *Chewett*:How does council being gone affect title docs [17/11/14 23:23] *Chewett*:In that, I doubt you have considered this [17/11/14 23:23] *Chewett*:In that council resigning only just happened [17/11/14 23:23] Asthir:Can anyone run quests, or does that remain for people with roles? [17/11/14 23:23] *Chewett*:Anyone can run quests [17/11/14 23:23] *Chewett*:Rewards for them can be obtained from TK easily [17/11/14 23:23] *Chewett*:So dont worry about needing rewards [17/11/14 23:23] Kyphis:Quest running has always been open to everyone [17/11/14 23:24] Rophs:Will stuff mentioned in this ann be more common? [Ann. 2751] [17/11/14 23:24] Muratus del Mur:title docs remain unaffected. Additional title docs will be given to ex council members to remember their role..but they will never become public [17/11/14 23:25] *Chewett*:You could contact me about that one probably [17/11/14 23:25] Rophs:Will postman know who was ex council in that cast? [17/11/14 23:25] *Chewett*:No [17/11/14 23:25] Muratus del Mur:no [17/11/14 23:25] *Chewett*:That would break their promise they would be unknown forever [17/11/14 23:26] Muratus del Mur:nobody will knwo who council member where [17/11/14 23:26] Kyphis:Request - If possible, will the Council title docs be made public, with names redacted (blacked out) ? [17/11/14 23:26] *Chewett*:Why? [17/11/14 23:26] *Chewett*:Whats the point? [17/11/14 23:26] *Chewett*:Its going to look like any other doc? [17/11/14 23:26] Muratus del Mur:the point might be that thye will indeed look differen probably :P [17/11/14 23:28] Muratus del Mur:thats about everything i wanted to tell you [17/11/14 23:28] Aeoshattr:Will the new roles be announced publicly? If I may ask. [17/11/14 23:29] Muratus del Mur:like i said, expect a MASSIVE flood of what you where used to call favors and such. I tried to explain here what i will actually do [17/11/14 23:29] Muratus del Mur:i will try to shape md structure in a certain way [17/11/14 23:29] Muratus del Mur:of course they will be announced [17/11/14 23:29] Muratus del Mur:all new roles will be announced like any other role [17/11/14 23:29] Muratus del Mur:and given sam echances like any other role [17/11/14 23:30] Muratus del Mur:some roles will be given hidden calceling rules, like it was long time ago with Tengri (find out the name, he dies) [17/11/14 23:31] Muratus del Mur:Any attempt to get under my skin, will end up with lots of virtual blood, just so you know [17/11/14 23:32] *Burns*:What about trust points? Failed concept as well? [17/11/14 23:32] *Chewett*:Much fail [17/11/14 23:32] Muratus del Mur:trust points are ok, but i think i have given way too many [17/11/14 23:32] *Chewett*:Many fail they are [17/11/14 23:32] Muratus del Mur:or for too long [17/11/14 23:32] *Chewett*:so much fail [17/11/14 23:32] Muratus del Mur:maybe, idk, ..could be [17/11/14 23:33] *Chewett*:COuncil updated them quite well [17/11/14 23:33] *Chewett*:Actually [17/11/14 23:34] Muratus del Mur:anything else? [17/11/14 23:34] Muratus del Mur:questions you want to ask me? [17/11/14 23:34] Muratus del Mur:now is the time [17/11/14 23:35] Azull:Tell us about these roles you will be assigning pls. [17/11/14 23:35] Curiose:Yes, please. [17/11/14 23:35] Curiose:I am interested in knowing as well. [17/11/14 23:35] Ary Endleg:tell us what features/fixes can we expect next? [17/11/14 23:36] Muratus del Mur:any constant activity thagt i don't see to be managed, will be assigned to someone ...for example: [17/11/14 23:36] *Chewett*:There is a position open for an Active Mur [17/11/14 23:36] *Chewett*:Can we fill it plz ? [17/11/14 23:36] Muratus del Mur:i just granted a drach egg for the permanent build your own drach quest [17/11/14 23:36] Muratus del Mur:but i have no clue who will give the drach [17/11/14 23:37] Muratus del Mur:because i don't have time usually [17/11/14 23:37] *Chewett*:TK's [17/11/14 23:37] *Burns*:That'd be me, thanks. [17/11/14 23:37] Azkhael:dst has it right. [17/11/14 23:37] Muratus del Mur:so, i will be asking if there is a drach master active, and if it is he will be doing it, if not, one will be assinged [17/11/14 23:37] Granos:Will MD head away from the automated format now, or will it continue on that path? [17/11/14 23:37] *Chewett*:Burns is active [17/11/14 23:37] Muratus del Mur: (i am talking general here) [17/11/14 23:37] *Chewett*:He is drach master [17/11/14 23:38] Muratus del Mur: (yes i was givign an eample) [17/11/14 23:38] *Burns*:I make for an amazing example, i only show up when we do cool stuff. [17/11/14 23:38] Kyphis:Ergo in this case he would do it, and no new role would be given [17/11/14 23:38] Rophs:Who will have power to start normal head (non-boss) contests? [17/11/14 23:38] Muratus del Mur:yes yours, wp is fine, it will also be given by burns, everything there, burns should [17/11/14 23:38] Muratus del Mur:burns you will receive a list of wp codes [17/11/14 23:38] dst:HC was stopped cause of lack of players [17/11/14 23:38] Muratus del Mur:unless you have one [17/11/14 23:39] Azkhael:Given how the quest is inherently attached to drachorns, that seem reasonable, even if the reward itself is not a drachorn. [17/11/14 23:39] *Chewett*:I will manage HC's [17/11/14 23:39] *Burns*:Unfortunately i have none left, a few codes would be much appreciated. [17/11/14 23:40] Muratus del Mur:Please know that i am VERY disconnected from what is currently going on in md..this is the right moment to get back active and pretend you where never inactive :)) i will let myself fooled by that [17/11/14 23:40] Kyphis:Qweery - Management roles - Avatar, Artwork, Quest, BHC managers? Unsure which roles are already filled [17/11/14 23:40] Aeoshattr:Since we're asking questions... I dare ask, will we hear more about Night Mode? [17/11/14 23:40] dst:night mode activates every day around 5 pm [17/11/14 23:41] Muratus del Mur:probably [17/11/14 23:41] Muratus del Mur:i will focus a lot on development [17/11/14 23:41] Azkhael:What of renewing the amount of WP codes for roles such as Burns', when necessary? Will you manually hand them every time, Mur? [17/11/14 23:41] Muratus del Mur:oh oh somethign even more important: [17/11/14 23:41] Rophs:Will AL start happening again? [17/11/14 23:41] Muratus del Mur: (no AL) [17/11/14 23:41] Muratus del Mur: (probably automated wp, idk yet) [17/11/14 23:41] Muratus del Mur:roles will be more dramatically sanctioned and removed for inactivity [17/11/14 23:42] Muratus del Mur:If you plan to be inactive for a period of time, announce it on the forum [17/11/14 23:42] *Chewett*:You too. [17/11/14 23:42] *Chewett*:Mur [17/11/14 23:43] dst:I can check WPs [17/11/14 23:43] Kyphis:I think it should remain with TK primarily and Kings for citizens [17/11/14 23:43] Rophs:Will you still make people wait for years to get old role? eg if I leave now will people have to wait years before Seedwalker becomes available again? [17/11/14 23:43] Kyphis:With Kings getting the pool of codes from TK [17/11/14 23:43] dst:and I have quite a history with wrong given WPs [17/11/14 23:43] Curiose:TKs are given WP codes. [17/11/14 23:43] Asthir:Who decides whether or not a quest is worth a WP sponsorship? [17/11/14 23:43] Muratus del Mur:iyou announce you will be away, your role remains [17/11/14 23:44] Curiose:The TKs do not specifically hand out wishpoints as that is not what they do. The Quest creator can give the WP, but the TKs only supply code. [17/11/14 23:44] Muratus del Mur:if you fail to announce it, then i will take the role and give it to someone else [17/11/14 23:44] Curiose:But otherwise they are reserved for the quest creator or other circumstance, such as Burns' role. [17/11/14 23:44] Asthir:I understand they supply the code. But do they also decide if what they hand it out for is worth it? [17/11/14 23:45] Muratus del Mur:I will flood talented quest creators with wp codes [17/11/14 23:45] *Chewett*:seriously Mur? [17/11/14 23:45] *Chewett*:YOu fail to announe you are away you then lose your role? [17/11/14 23:45] Muratus del Mur:for a decent period of time yes [17/11/14 23:45] Muratus del Mur:if you vanish a couple of month [17/11/14 23:45] *Chewett*:Hmm [17/11/14 23:45] *Burns*:Short answer, the people who have the WPs decide if they want to sponsor them, yes. [17/11/14 23:45] Kyphis: (the role of Mur) [17/11/14 23:45] Muratus del Mur:makes sense, its a decent way to filter out people that no longer care [17/11/14 23:46] Azkhael:The bit about unannounced prolonged absence seems fine. [17/11/14 23:46] Muratus del Mur:a week is fine, a month...you can announce it, just that [17/11/14 23:47] Muratus del Mur:please get my point. I want people that no longer care about their role not to keep that role stuck [17/11/14 23:47] Muratus del Mur:thats all [17/11/14 23:48] Muratus del Mur:if you care about the role still, all you need to do is to say it [17/11/14 23:48] Kyphis: Mur , while I've no objection to flooding current Quest Creators with WP codes as a one off thing, I think long term that should remain primarily with TK [17/11/14 23:48] Muratus del Mur:if you role is not something of public importance, you keep it [17/11/14 23:48] Rophs:Maybe flood TK with codes, and suggest they give codes to quest creators [17/11/14 23:48] Muratus del Mur:but if you are in a role that involved some sor tof activity and you fail to be present to do it, you get replaced faster than before [17/11/14 23:49] Curiose:Tks already have codes. [17/11/14 23:50] Curiose:I do not know if Mur still intends to inflate the currency of WPs or not. [17/11/14 23:50] Muratus del Mur:i will not flood tks with codes or rewards...the point is that i shape md into what I think better, not them, as an example of what sort of things i want to see more [17/11/14 23:50] Muratus del Mur:after a wave of such sponsorships, i will stop, because those people i will reward, will be able to continue rewarding others according to their own liking [17/11/14 23:51] blackrider:what of the people that put money in to the game [17/11/14 23:52] Muratus del Mur:what about them? [17/11/14 23:52] Kyphis:RL Money has never held, and never should hold sway over what happens in MD, aside from in a market perspective with SC, GC, and creatures [17/11/14 23:52] Rophs:When will there be a use for the sign clicky at fortune's well? [17/11/14 23:53] *Chewett*:When I code it rophs [17/11/14 23:54] Muratus del Mur:your financial support is essential for keeping md running, without it there would be no hosting and such, and no md. BUT..there will never be actions in favor of paying members, what you get, you get [17/11/14 23:54] Muratus del Mur:from the shop and by trading, thats it [17/11/14 23:54] Muratus del Mur:in fact, if i hear anyone claiming anything else, like a role, just because "they paid" ..i will be sure they will have a much more difficult time and lower chance to get that role [17/11/14 23:55] Muratus del Mur:so don't even try to use your supporter status as an advantage, i never look at it, all players will always be treated the same regardless of their support ammount [17/11/14 23:56] Muratus del Mur:wps are about infltion. like currency [17/11/14 23:57] Curiose:Mur, do ou still intend to inflate the WP Currency? I remember you mentioning this some years ago. [17/11/14 23:57] Rophs:Will more players have ability to award spelldocs? [17/11/14 23:58] *Chewett*:When they prove themselves worthy RE rophs [17/11/14 23:58] Rophs:Will TK be able to rewardspelldocs? [17/11/14 23:58] Muratus del Mur:probably spell docs will become real again, its up to you if you deserve such a role and up to chew to code such rewards, i will focus on a25 dev for a while [17/11/14 23:58] *Chewett*:I have been giving out the ability to reward spelldocs slowly Mur [17/11/14 23:58] *Chewett*:FYI [17/11/14 23:59] Curiose:I don't believe that is within the abilities of the TKs, rophs. [18/11/14 00:01] Time Patrol:we do not give away spelldocs [18/11/14 00:01] Muratus del Mur:from time to time me or chew will focus on a certain aspect of md development. [18/11/14 00:01] Muratus del Mur:i will focus on a25 tools, and in general the wild part of the features [18/11/14 00:02] Muratus del Mur:ats whay i like more [18/11/14 00:02] Muratus del Mur:chew will do whatever he wants [18/11/14 00:02] Ary Endleg:what about dude2? [18/11/14 00:02] Muratus del Mur:when he will be woring on a certain part of md, he can assign roles and integrate that tech part of md as he wishes...lets say we will be populating md features with human controllers [18/11/14 00:03] Muratus del Mur:dude2 is no longer active [18/11/14 00:03] *Chewett*:Im going for a bit, Might be back before this ends, later Mur. [18/11/14 00:03] Muratus del Mur:cya chew [18/11/14 00:03] Muratus del Mur:brb10min [18/11/14 00:05] Curiose:If ever a quest creator were to run out of codes, they could always regain more by the Tks, yes? [18/11/14 00:05] Curiose:Time Patrol should be able to clarify or not whether that is correct. [18/11/14 00:06] dst:YES Curiose, YES [18/11/14 00:06] Azkhael:Do the Treasure Keepers have a genuinely infinite source that does not rely on asking Mur for more? [18/11/14 00:06] *Burns*:Some people can go to Chewie and ask for codes, and will receive them. People who are newer to quest-making might only get 1 sponsored, or 2-3 codes to see how they work with them. [18/11/14 00:07] dst:make good quests and I, personally, will sponsor with WPs [18/11/14 00:08] Azkhael:To reiterate: Mur said he would distribute a large amount of WP codes to some individuals, and then never again. I was checking whether the amount distributed would be arbitrarily large, or (...) [18/11/14 00:08] Azkhael:whether there'd always be a limitless source not reliant on Mur distributing more. [18/11/14 00:09] Time Patrol: (just a general info - you can always pm me or pip if you have any questions) [18/11/14 00:10] Curiose:But I believe Mur may have been referring to a splurge in quests to his specifications. I do not have the actual mentioning of this, however. [18/11/14 00:11] dst:he might indeed not do it [18/11/14 00:11] dst:but there are always TKs and last resort: Chew! [18/11/14 00:12] blackrider:and what of people new to making quest [18/11/14 00:12] Muratus del Mur: (back) [18/11/14 00:12] *Burns*:New people always had to look for sponsors, that will likely not change. [18/11/14 00:13] Muratus del Mur:yes, everything important on my side is said [18/11/14 00:13] blackrider:what of the people trying to obtain a role what would they need to do to obtain a role then mur [18/11/14 00:13] Azkhael:Be noticed and don't do a shoddy job of it. [18/11/14 00:13] Kyphis:Make sure the kings and land leaders know about it[/spoiler] Full log: [spoiler] [17/11/14 22:40] Ailith:Ugh *feels queasy from the jump* [17/11/14 22:40] :dst brings a mop [17/11/14 22:40] *Grido*:hazzah [17/11/14 22:40] Granos:Ugh... people.. [17/11/14 22:41] :Ailith pokes Granos [17/11/14 22:41] dst:ugh...Granos [17/11/14 22:41] Asthir:Evening. [17/11/14 22:41] :Ailith laughs [17/11/14 22:41] Granos:Ow.. [17/11/14 22:41] Rophs:ugh... dst [17/11/14 22:41] dst:ugh chat ban [17/11/14 22:41] Aeoshattr:Ooh. Never been here before. [17/11/14 22:41] :Lania nods at everybody and leans on a pillar [17/11/14 22:42] Muratus del Mur:Welcome. Lets wait for more to gather before i start. Try not to interrupt me unless you have important questions or remarks. Anyone chatting random in here will be sent far far away. [17/11/14 22:43] :WittyLeWat Waves to everyone [17/11/14 22:43] :Ailith hugs Witty and ushers her to sit with her [17/11/14 22:44] :WittyLeWat hugs Ailith back and sits next to her [17/11/14 22:44] Curiose:oh~ it worked! [17/11/14 22:45] JadenDew:Where are cookies? [17/11/14 22:46] Muratus del Mur:First of all, is there anyone here that is willing to take notes and make a summary of the most important things discussed here? (to be posted on the forum or/and announcements) [17/11/14 22:47] Curiose:If no one else steps up, I will. But I'll need a log to go over with as I assume the discussion will be long. [17/11/14 22:47] Ailith:I can take chat [17/11/14 22:47] Muratus del Mur:alright [17/11/14 22:47] Curiose:Thank you, Ailith. [17/11/14 22:49] :No one passed Flowers to dst [17/11/14 22:49] Muratus del Mur:Ok, so..here we go. First of all thank you all for being here. I understand this is short notie announcement, but sadly i can not wait or do this an other time. [17/11/14 22:50] Muratus del Mur:Currently MD has very few active people, but those that are , are quite valuable in my opinion. [17/11/14 22:50] Muratus del Mur:In the next period i will be doing some dramatic changes to md's social structure , and soon enough also changes to its technical part [17/11/14 22:51] Muratus del Mur:You can say i am going crazy, but i hope it will be fun-crazy, like old times [17/11/14 22:52] Muratus del Mur:I won't be reading messages from you for a while, i want to avoid being 'tainted' by anyone. [17/11/14 22:52] Muratus del Mur:I will however observe [17/11/14 22:52] Muratus del Mur:I was way to democratic in the last period, out of respect for the council, thats no longer the case now [17/11/14 22:53] Muratus del Mur:This is your world now, but its governed by me, get used to it. [17/11/14 22:54] Muratus del Mur:The contact@ email won't be used for a while, i am not sure what to do with it righ now [17/11/14 22:55] Muratus del Mur:I need to remind you all, and most of all to those that are newer and have no clue about it, that using my name in your statements is not something to joke about. [17/11/14 22:55] Muratus del Mur:A single "mur said" used wrong and i will have no mercy [17/11/14 22:55] Muratus del Mur:this is because i won't have to to apply my ruling in an organized form , so many times i will be using one or the other person i find online to do stuff through them, so when someone will use my name [17/11/14 22:56] Muratus del Mur:and claim i said something, then you should be sure i did [17/11/14 22:57] Muratus del Mur:Chewet will be ruling md as well, in his own way, not "for" me, but along with me. I advise him to avoid too much communication with anyone because eventually the chats with you will eat all his time [17/11/14 22:57] Muratus del Mur:but he shall do as he wishes [17/11/14 22:57] Muratus del Mur:any questions so far? [17/11/14 22:57] :Lania shakes her head [17/11/14 22:58] *Burns*:What if Chewie says left and you say right? Who wins? [17/11/14 22:58] Curiose:Not a question, but a suggestion for the Contact e mail. If I may? [17/11/14 22:58] Granos:So does that free the Judges? [17/11/14 22:58] *Burns*:Always Mur>Chewie, or up to discussion amongst you two [17/11/14 22:58] Muratus del Mur:@burns, i win [17/11/14 22:58] dst:boo [17/11/14 22:58] No one:am I included between those "valuable people" ? [17/11/14 22:58] Muratus del Mur:@curiose, yes? [17/11/14 22:59] No one:2. " Mur del Mur: A single "mur said" used wrong and i will have no mercy" - what about Fang ? [17/11/14 22:59] Muratus del Mur:Any question regarding roles will be discussed in the second part of this meeting [17/11/14 22:59] Curiose:The contact e mail could be for Chewett, instead of for council as it was previously intended. That way he does not need to use personal communication means. [17/11/14 22:59] *Chewett*:I have an email [17/11/14 22:59] *Chewett*:coder@magicduel.com [17/11/14 22:59] Curiose:Okay. Disregard that then. [17/11/14 22:59] Muratus del Mur:he has one [17/11/14 22:59] *Chewett*:also chewett@ [17/11/14 23:00] Muratus del Mur:I think its best to put a autoresponder on the contact email to explain there is nobody there to answer [17/11/14 23:00] Muratus del Mur:I do not care of contact from the outside (advertising offers, deals, etc) ..that email is inteded for inside people only [17/11/14 23:00] Muratus del Mur:and for now it is a reality that your emails won't be answered [17/11/14 23:00] Curiose:Makes sense. Thank you. [17/11/14 23:00] Muratus del Mur:To compensate that, i shall be doing meetings occasionally, and use the forum [17/11/14 23:01] Muratus del Mur:Now about roles. [17/11/14 23:01] Muratus del Mur:I saw some major problems in md right now. Some could have been solved with an axe [17/11/14 23:02] Muratus del Mur:other problems are more delicate [17/11/14 23:02] *Chewett*:Indeed, Off goes Murs Head. [17/11/14 23:02] No one:cut my role/tag, I am not joking [17/11/14 23:02] Muratus del Mur:i take gladly the role of the one you can all blame [17/11/14 23:03] Muratus del Mur:Here is a volunteer for my first example [17/11/14 23:03] No one:thank you [17/11/14 23:03] Muratus del Mur:Things like that, such ..attitude..will be treated accordingly [17/11/14 23:04] Muratus del Mur: (no one tag and description removed as requested) [17/11/14 23:04] No one:Thank you [17/11/14 23:04] Muratus del Mur:I don't have time or nerves for any of your moods [17/11/14 23:05] Muratus del Mur:so if you do not appreciate or value your own character , why should i or anyone [17/11/14 23:05] No one:I do appreciate it, quite very much [17/11/14 23:05] No one:you gave me the role, I tried it, and you disregard me or my attepmts for my role [17/11/14 23:05] No one:it is not fit for me [17/11/14 23:06] Muratus del Mur:ok we got that sorted out then [17/11/14 23:06] No one:that's why I thank you for relieving me of it [17/11/14 23:06] No one:indeed, ( a very honest) thank you [17/11/14 23:06] Muratus del Mur:anyone else wishes somethig shopped off ? [17/11/14 23:06] No one:I promise not to interrupt again [17/11/14 23:07] Muratus del Mur: (thanks) [17/11/14 23:07] dst:judges [17/11/14 23:07] dst:I believe Granos raised the same issue at the beginning [17/11/14 23:07] Muratus del Mur:Ok, we have lots and lots of things that need to be dealt with...i honestly don't know how council managed to take care of eeevveeryything so far [17/11/14 23:07] Ailith:If you are back, then we are not needed? *smiles* [17/11/14 23:08] *Chewett*:They were amazingly good [17/11/14 23:08] Muratus del Mur:judges, they are very much needed, in fact their role will be much more important now than before [17/11/14 23:08] Muratus del Mur:because my judging _won't be fair_ [17/11/14 23:09] dst:and you think judges will? [17/11/14 23:09] Muratus del Mur:so if you are lucky enough to reach a trial and a judges decision ..good for you..because if i sense anything wrong myself , i will be applying some absurd punishment WITHOUT warning or fair trial [17/11/14 23:09] Aeoshattr:I dare intervene and say judges should be elected ob the basis of their objectiveness. [17/11/14 23:10] Aeoshattr:on* [17/11/14 23:10] Muratus del Mur:i don't say judges will be fair, but they will try to be [17/11/14 23:10] dst:scared Aeo? :D [17/11/14 23:10] Muratus del Mur:lol [17/11/14 23:10] *Eara Meraia*:nobody can be absolutelly fair [17/11/14 23:10] Muratus del Mur:Chew..do you think judges should be elected or appointed? [17/11/14 23:11] *Chewett*:appointed, elections never worked on MD [17/11/14 23:11] Curiose:If I may, are they not already chosen? [17/11/14 23:11] *Chewett*:See public council, we elected a load of friendly people who didnt really make decisions [17/11/14 23:11] dst:see all MB kings [17/11/14 23:11] dst:and all LR councils [17/11/14 23:11] Muratus del Mur:so you say judges are pointless? [17/11/14 23:12] *Chewett*:No... [17/11/14 23:12] *Chewett*:How did you even read that from what I said? [17/11/14 23:12] No one:no, just to be appointed [17/11/14 23:12] *Burns*:You just said you're going to be un-democratic, and now you consider election? :)) [17/11/14 23:12] *Chewett*:Electing judges will get friendly people who can get votes and NOT people who will be good judges [17/11/14 23:12] Muratus del Mur:yes, why not, i want a reaction before i take MY decision...who said i will respet any voting [17/11/14 23:13] Muratus del Mur:my point exactly chew [17/11/14 23:13] *Chewett*:Thats my point, bugger off [17/11/14 23:13] Aeoshattr:I didn't use the right words. Chew phrased what I was trying to say pretty well. [17/11/14 23:13] dst:you didn't Aeo [17/11/14 23:13] Muratus del Mur:I believe judges are very needed...but i also think their scope and methods should be greatly adjusted [17/11/14 23:13] dst:you said the contrary [17/11/14 23:14] Aeoshattr:I said "elect" and I didn't mean elect. [17/11/14 23:14] *Chewett*:Thats what I thought too dst... [17/11/14 23:14] Muratus del Mur:anyone has a problem with the current judges? [17/11/14 23:14] Aeoshattr:I meant to say judges should be fair, objective people. Which doesn't make them friendly and whatnot. [17/11/14 23:14] *Chewett*:Yeah [17/11/14 23:14] *Chewett*:While I love ailith and GRanos I am unsure of their activitiy [17/11/14 23:14] Muratus del Mur:i'm listening [17/11/14 23:14] *Chewett*:In that, the last time I saw granos, was ages ago [17/11/14 23:15] *Chewett*:Ailith is back for a while now, so tahts good [17/11/14 23:15] *Chewett*:But I cannot dispresct someone for being busy, so I woudl keep them [17/11/14 23:15] *Chewett*:But as a "note" [17/11/14 23:15] Muratus del Mur:granos, comments? [17/11/14 23:15] Granos:I hide, but if it is deemed I am to be replaced, so be it. [17/11/14 23:15] *Chewett*:Indeed, he has quite possibly just been hidden [17/11/14 23:15] *Burns*:It can also be a valueable trait to have 1 judge who isn't up to speed on everything, he might have a better eye for the exact issue at hand. [17/11/14 23:15] *Chewett*:I wouldnt like to delcare me seeing people judges their activity [17/11/14 23:15] Muratus del Mur:yes, i do that too normally, ..i want to hear granos out first [17/11/14 23:16] :Kyphis takes a seat [17/11/14 23:16] *Eagle Eye*:not replacing adding will be good [17/11/14 23:16] Muratus del Mur:its simple...granos..to you consider yourself active enough to keep the role? [17/11/14 23:16] Granos:Being a judge or not will not really have any effect of what I do or do not do, I still keep track of things silently. I leave the choice with Mur. [17/11/14 23:19] Muratus del Mur:i think you are ok as a judge, if i will see you vanish for too long i might re-assign the role, but as burns said, its good to have also a s [17/11/14 23:20] Muratus del Mur:also someone that is less involved in daily activity [17/11/14 23:20] Muratus del Mur:ok, something very important: [17/11/14 23:20] Muratus del Mur:i will be assigning roles, to almost random people that i think willing and fit [17/11/14 23:21] Muratus del Mur:these roles will be all taken away as easy as they where given if i see you are not good enough to keep them [17/11/14 23:21] Muratus del Mur:right now many things need someoe to handle them [17/11/14 23:22] Muratus del Mur:anything anyone has to say about current roles? [17/11/14 23:23] *Chewett*:How does council being gone affect title docs [17/11/14 23:23] *Chewett*:In that, I doubt you have considered this [17/11/14 23:23] *Chewett*:In that council resigning only just happened [17/11/14 23:23] Asthir:Can anyone run quests, or does that remain for people with roles? [17/11/14 23:23] *Chewett*:Anyone can run quests [17/11/14 23:23] *Chewett*:Rewards for them can be obtained from TK easily [17/11/14 23:23] *Chewett*:So dont worry about needing rewards [17/11/14 23:23] Kyphis:Quest running has always been open to everyone [17/11/14 23:23] Asthir:Thank you [17/11/14 23:24] Rophs:Will stuff mentioned in this ann be more common? [Ann. 2751] [17/11/14 23:24] Muratus del Mur:title docs remain unaffected. Additional title docs will be given to ex council members to remember their role..but they will never become public [17/11/14 23:24] *Chewett*:Ooh I wrote that ANn [17/11/14 23:25] *Chewett*:You could contact me about that one probably [17/11/14 23:25] Rophs:Will postman know who was ex council in that cast? [17/11/14 23:25] *Chewett*:No [17/11/14 23:25] Muratus del Mur:no [17/11/14 23:25] *Chewett*:That would break their promise they would be unknown forever [17/11/14 23:26] Muratus del Mur:nobody will knwo who council member where [17/11/14 23:26] Kyphis:Request - If possible, will the Council title docs be made public, with names redacted (blacked out) ? [17/11/14 23:26] *Chewett*:Why? [17/11/14 23:26] *Chewett*:Whats the point? [17/11/14 23:26] Eon:. [17/11/14 23:26] *Chewett*:Its going to look like any other doc? [17/11/14 23:26] Muratus del Mur:the point might be that thye will indeed look differen probably :P [17/11/14 23:26] Kyphis:Document IDs, minor differences, etc. [17/11/14 23:26] Eon:I didn't give permission to use my throne room [17/11/14 23:27] *Chewett*:My throne room you mean Eon? [17/11/14 23:27] Eon:.. [17/11/14 23:27] :*Chewett* goes to edit DB [17/11/14 23:27] Muratus del Mur:lool [17/11/14 23:27] Rophs:Santuary Throne Room, so that Eon can't kill you [17/11/14 23:28] Ary Endleg:Yeah... I have certain grudges against sanctuaries [17/11/14 23:28] dst:here here [17/11/14 23:28] *Chewett*:Lets not fight in front of daddy children [17/11/14 23:28] Muratus del Mur:thats about everything i wanted to tell you [17/11/14 23:28] Aeoshattr:Will the new roles be announced publicly? If I may ask. [17/11/14 23:29] Muratus del Mur:like i said, expect a MASSIVE flood of what you where used to call favors and such. I tried to explain here what i will actually do [17/11/14 23:29] *Burns*:Yeah, let's kill Chewie when Mur isn't looking. lashtal could make a quest of it. [17/11/14 23:29] Muratus del Mur:i will try to shape md structure in a certain way [17/11/14 23:29] *Chewett*:I was killed once [17/11/14 23:29] Muratus del Mur:of course they will be announced [17/11/14 23:29] *Chewett*:That player isnt around anymore... he disappeared [17/11/14 23:29] Granos:So can we expect cows? [17/11/14 23:29] Eon:Give me my crown, Demon [17/11/14 23:29] *Chewett*:Mysteriously [17/11/14 23:29] Muratus del Mur:all new roles will be announced like any other role [17/11/14 23:29] Kyphis:k.....................................................................................................................................................................................................,k [17/11/14 23:29] Muratus del Mur:and given sam echances like any other role [17/11/14 23:30] *Grido*:If we let Mur speak, I'm sure questions will be answered [17/11/14 23:30] Kyphis:oooooooooooooooooooooooooooo9f [17/11/14 23:30] Tipu:Councils the hero MD deserves, but not the one it needs. So we'll abuse them. Because they deserve it. [17/11/14 23:30] Tipu:Because they r not our heros. They r our secrets . A watchful ... A Failed Knights [17/11/14 23:30] Kyphis: (sorry, moo was on the keyboard) [17/11/14 23:30] Tipu:hehe [17/11/14 23:30] Muratus del Mur:some roles will be given hidden calceling rules, like it was long time ago with Tengri (find out the name, he dies) [17/11/14 23:30] dst:abuse anything Tipu and you'll get to jail [17/11/14 23:30] Asthir:Is this the only place Eon speaks? [17/11/14 23:30] *Chewett*:Eon only speaks to certain people [17/11/14 23:30] Rophs:Eon speaks when he's around Mur [17/11/14 23:30] *Chewett*:Not dictated by the place [17/11/14 23:30] Asthir:Aah.. good to know [17/11/14 23:31] *Chewett*:Generally speaks in public around mur, but privately [17/11/14 23:31] *Chewett*:Ah but I woudnt want to give away any more screts, eh eon? [17/11/14 23:31] : Eon throws the dice and gets 3 [17/11/14 23:31] Muratus del Mur:Any attempt to get under my skin, will end up with lots of virtual blood, just so you know [17/11/14 23:32] *Burns*:What about trust points? Failed concept as well? [17/11/14 23:32] *Chewett*:Much fail [17/11/14 23:32] Azkhael:Greetings. [17/11/14 23:32] Ary Endleg:any summary of what I missed? [17/11/14 23:32] Muratus del Mur:trust points are ok, but i think i have given way too many [17/11/14 23:32] *Chewett*:Many fail they are [17/11/14 23:32] Muratus del Mur:or for too long [17/11/14 23:32] *Chewett*:so much fail [17/11/14 23:32] Kyphis: (The only "Buffalo Bill" action will be when Mur wears the person who tried to get under his ;) ) [17/11/14 23:32] dst:mines are not even updated :D [17/11/14 23:32] Muratus del Mur:maybe, idk, ..could be [17/11/14 23:33] *Burns*:Nobody has them updated :P [17/11/14 23:33] Muratus del Mur:lol [17/11/14 23:33] *Chewett*:COuncil updated them quite well [17/11/14 23:33] *Chewett*:Actually [17/11/14 23:33] Kyphis: (I'll grab a log, Ary) [17/11/14 23:33] Curiose:Ary? [17/11/14 23:33] Ary Endleg:Me :P [17/11/14 23:33] Kyphis: (Ary End of leg) [17/11/14 23:33] Curiose:Oh, okay, double checking. [17/11/14 23:34] dst:foot...end of leg is foot [17/11/14 23:34] dst:the other end is a nasty word for md [17/11/14 23:34] Ary Endleg:so aside from wild roles, council going poof, anything else? [17/11/14 23:34] Rophs:Ary Foot [17/11/14 23:34] *Burns*:Arry Underfoot? [17/11/14 23:34] Aeoshattr: (depends which way you look at the leg.) [17/11/14 23:34] Kyphis: (But, but, but, but english says I can say it!) [17/11/14 23:34] Muratus del Mur:anything else? [17/11/14 23:34] Muratus del Mur:questions you want to ask me? [17/11/14 23:34] Muratus del Mur:now is the time [17/11/14 23:35] *Burns*:Yes, Mur will resume the madman position you never experienced. [17/11/14 23:35] *Chewett*:PERSON: so the whole banishment for interupting thing isn't being followed through on... [17/11/14 23:35] Azkhael:Kyphis, if you don`t post it on the forums, may I have a copy of the log too? [17/11/14 23:35] *Chewett*:BAN THEM ALL MUR [17/11/14 23:35] Azull:Tell us about these roles you will be assigning pls. [17/11/14 23:35] Curiose:Yes, please. [17/11/14 23:35] Curiose:I am interested in knowing as well. [17/11/14 23:35] Granos:I still want to know about the cows... [17/11/14 23:35] Rophs:Moo spell [17/11/14 23:35] *Burns*:Mur said he was done, we can talk now :P [17/11/14 23:35] Ary Endleg:tell us what features/fixes can we expect next? [17/11/14 23:36] *Burns*:Bad wookie, never listening :P [17/11/14 23:36] No one:more beggers, bleah [17/11/14 23:36] Muratus del Mur:any constant activity thagt i don't see to be managed, will be assigned to someone ...for example: [17/11/14 23:36] *Chewett*:There is a position open for an Active Mur [17/11/14 23:36] *Chewett*:Can we fill it plz ? [17/11/14 23:36] Muratus del Mur:i just granted a drach egg for the permanent build your own drach quest [17/11/14 23:36] Rophs:Am I too sane for it? [17/11/14 23:36] Muratus del Mur:but i have no clue who will give the drach [17/11/14 23:37] Muratus del Mur:because i don't have time usually [17/11/14 23:37] Curiose:Why not Ivo or the TKs? [17/11/14 23:37] dst:he wants a WP [17/11/14 23:37] dst:not a drach [17/11/14 23:37] *Chewett*:TK's [17/11/14 23:37] *Burns*:That'd be me, thanks. [17/11/14 23:37] *Burns*:Thing is, he wants the WP :P [17/11/14 23:37] Azkhael:dst has it right. [17/11/14 23:37] Muratus del Mur:so, i will be asking if there is a drach master active, and if it is he will be doing it, if not, one will be assinged [17/11/14 23:37] Rophs:He did ask for a wp [Forum link] [17/11/14 23:37] Granos:Will MD head away from the automated format now, or will it continue on that path? [17/11/14 23:37] *Chewett*:Burns is active [17/11/14 23:37] Muratus del Mur: (i am talking general here) [17/11/14 23:37] *Chewett*:He is drach master [17/11/14 23:37] Curiose:Oh, I see, Mur. [17/11/14 23:38] Muratus del Mur: (yes i was givign an eample) [17/11/14 23:38] Azrafar:My quest right? I want Wp for it. [17/11/14 23:38] *Burns*:I make for an amazing example, i only show up when we do cool stuff. [17/11/14 23:38] Kyphis:Ergo in this case he would do it, and no new role would be given [17/11/14 23:38] Curiose:Okay, I wasn't sure if you were serious or not. [17/11/14 23:38] Rophs:Who will have power to start normal head (non-boss) contests? [17/11/14 23:38] Muratus del Mur:yes yours, wp is fine, it will also be given by burns, everything there, burns should [17/11/14 23:38] Muratus del Mur:burns you will receive a list of wp codes [17/11/14 23:38] dst:HC was stopped cause of lack of players [17/11/14 23:38] Muratus del Mur:unless you have one [17/11/14 23:39] Azkhael:Given how the quest is inherently attached to drachorns, that seem reasonable, even if the reward itself is not a drachorn. [17/11/14 23:39] *Chewett*:I will manage HC's [17/11/14 23:39] *Burns*:Unfortunately i have none left, a few codes would be much appreciated. [17/11/14 23:39] Rophs: [Ann. 2800] [17/11/14 23:39] Curiose:Chew, will HC be changed? [17/11/14 23:39] *Chewett*:why would it [17/11/14 23:39] *Chewett*:It might [17/11/14 23:39] Rophs:Can HC be done individually by mindpower levels? [17/11/14 23:39] *Chewett*:It might not [17/11/14 23:40] *Chewett*:Who could say? [17/11/14 23:40] *Chewett*:Me possibly... [17/11/14 23:40] Muratus del Mur:Please know that i am VERY disconnected from what is currently going on in md..this is the right moment to get back active and pretend you where never inactive :)) i will let myself fooled by that [17/11/14 23:40] Kyphis:Qweery - Management roles - Avatar, Artwork, Quest, BHC managers? Unsure which roles are already filled [17/11/14 23:40] Curiose:Curi was never inactive in no way shape or form. [17/11/14 23:40] dst:I am No. 2 on active list [17/11/14 23:40] Aeoshattr:Since we're asking questions... I dare ask, will we hear more about Night Mode? [17/11/14 23:40] dst:night mode activates every day around 5 pm [17/11/14 23:41] Muratus del Mur:probably [17/11/14 23:41] Asthir:You don't need to be connected if you'll be doing things your way. [17/11/14 23:41] Muratus del Mur:i will focus a lot on development [17/11/14 23:41] Azkhael:What of renewing the amount of WP codes for roles such as Burns', when necessary? ill you manually hand them every time, Mur? [17/11/14 23:41] Muratus del Mur:oh oh somethign even more important: [17/11/14 23:41] Rophs:Will AL start happening again? [17/11/14 23:41] Azkhael:Will you* [17/11/14 23:41] Muratus del Mur: (no AL) [17/11/14 23:41] Muratus del Mur: (probably automated wp, idk yet) [17/11/14 23:41] Muratus del Mur:roles will be more dramatically sanctioned and removed for inactivity [17/11/14 23:42] *Burns*:There are no roles like mine, WPs were supposed to come from kings and TKs, me giving out WPs is almost a change of concept for my role :P [17/11/14 23:42] Muratus del Mur:If you plan to be inactive for a period of time, announce it on the forum [17/11/14 23:42] Azkhael:In that case, who would keep check of whether the WPs are being handed out correctly? You, upon accusation, or a fixed role to that end? [17/11/14 23:42] *Burns*:So, we'll need to figure out how to handle WPs from here on out from scratch :)) [17/11/14 23:42] *Chewett*:You too. [17/11/14 23:42] *Chewett*:Mur [17/11/14 23:43] dst:I can check WPs [17/11/14 23:43] *Eagle Eye*: ;) [17/11/14 23:43] Kyphis:I think it should remain with TK primarily and Kings for citizens [17/11/14 23:43] Rophs:Will you still make people wait for years to get old role? eg if I leave now will people have to wait years before Seedwalker becomes available again? [17/11/14 23:43] Kyphis:With Kings getting the pool of codes from TK [17/11/14 23:43] Rophs:Or a role similar to it [17/11/14 23:43] dst:and I have quite a history with wrong given WPs [17/11/14 23:43] Curiose:TKs are given WP codes. [17/11/14 23:43] Asthir:Who decides whether or not a quest is worth a WP sponsorship? [17/11/14 23:43] Muratus del Mur:iyou announce you will be away, your role remains [17/11/14 23:44] Curiose:The TKs do not specifically hand out wishpoints as that is not what they do. The Quest creator can give the WP, but the TKs only supply code. [17/11/14 23:44] Muratus del Mur:if you fail to announce it, then i will take the role and give it to someone else [17/11/14 23:44] blackrider:ill take it [17/11/14 23:44] Curiose:I do not know if Ivo hands out WPs under Mur's hand or not as I did. [17/11/14 23:44] Curiose:But otherwise they are reserved for the quest creator or other circumstance, such as Burns' role. [17/11/14 23:44] Asthir:I understand they supply the code. But do they also decide if what they hand it out for is worth it? [17/11/14 23:45] Muratus del Mur:I will flood talented quest creators with wp codes [17/11/14 23:45] *Chewett*:seriously Mur? [17/11/14 23:45] Kyphis:I believe no - you where part of TK back then [17/11/14 23:45] *Chewett*:YOu fail to announe you are away you then lose your role? [17/11/14 23:45] Muratus del Mur:for a decent period of time yes [17/11/14 23:45] blackrider:whos role [17/11/14 23:45] Muratus del Mur:if you vanish a couple of month [17/11/14 23:45] Rophs:give Mur's role to blackrider [17/11/14 23:45] *Chewett*:Hmm [17/11/14 23:45] Curiose:I was. [17/11/14 23:45] *Burns*:Short answer, the people who have the WPs decide if they want to sponsor them, yes. [17/11/14 23:45] Kyphis: (the role of Mur) [17/11/14 23:45] Muratus del Mur:makes sense, its a decent way to filter out people that no longer care [17/11/14 23:45] Rophs:people who have the WP codes* [17/11/14 23:46] Azkhael:The bit about unannounced prolonged absence seems fine. [17/11/14 23:46] *Chewett*:I value some things higher than MD [17/11/14 23:46] *Chewett*:Many things actually [17/11/14 23:46] Asthir:Aha [17/11/14 23:46] Muratus del Mur: (i will start porting out people that talk nonsense) [17/11/14 23:46] Curiose:Burns stated that succently enough. [17/11/14 23:46] blackrider:as we all shoudl cheww [17/11/14 23:46] *Chewett*:if someone keeps me away frmo the comptuer for a week, Im not going to come on MD [17/11/14 23:46] Azkhael:Emphasis on prolonged. [17/11/14 23:46] Kyphis: (My wife, my life, this fancy knife?) [17/11/14 23:46] Muratus del Mur:a week is fine, a month...you can announce it, just that [17/11/14 23:46] blackrider:im on 5 days a week to 6 days [17/11/14 23:47] Muratus del Mur:please get my point. I want people that no longer care about their role not to keep that role stuck [17/11/14 23:47] Muratus del Mur:thats all [17/11/14 23:47] Azkhael:I believe that we are unlikely to deal with a situation where someone was genuinely unable to show up for a month, and could not have been aware of it prior to the event. [17/11/14 23:48] Azkhael:Though a few exceptions come to mind. [17/11/14 23:48] Muratus del Mur:if you care about the role still, all you need to do is to say it [17/11/14 23:48] Azkhael:Such as medical emergencies. [17/11/14 23:48] Kyphis: Mur , while I've no objection to flooding current Quest Creators with WP codes as a one off thing, I think long term that should remain primarily with TK [17/11/14 23:48] Muratus del Mur:if you role is not something of public importance, you keep it [17/11/14 23:48] Tipu:Iam ssoooo happy to see Council members gone hehe [17/11/14 23:48] Rophs:Maybe flood TK with codes, and suggest they give codes to quest creators [17/11/14 23:48] Muratus del Mur:but if you are in a role that involved some sor tof activity and you fail to be present to do it, you get replaced faster than before [17/11/14 23:49] Curiose:Tks already have codes. [17/11/14 23:49] blackrider:MD has alot of lands that most people dont explore and not enough players in some areas how would we fix that [17/11/14 23:49] Azkhael:Perhaps there could be a few exceptions, such as a situation where the impossibility of prior warning can be proved? [17/11/14 23:49] Curiose:But I believe the question here is if the quest is worhty of a code or not. [17/11/14 23:49] Azkhael:In which case the role would be lost, but later reintegrated? [17/11/14 23:49] Granos:Will you have people in positions to moniter activity or will it be done personally? [17/11/14 23:50] Curiose:I do not know if Mur still intends to inflate the currency of WPs or not. [17/11/14 23:50] Muratus del Mur:i will not flood tks with codes or rewards...the point is that i shape md into what I think better, not them, as an example of what sort of things i want to see more [17/11/14 23:50] Muratus del Mur:after a wave of such sponsorships, i will stop, because those people i will reward, will be able to continue rewarding others according to their own liking [17/11/14 23:50] Curiose:It will generate activity, in which activity is like MD currency. [17/11/14 23:51] Curiose:Like economic grotwth. [17/11/14 23:51] Azkhael:Are we speaking of a virtually limitless suply then? [17/11/14 23:51] blackrider:what of the people that put money in to the game [17/11/14 23:51] Azkhael:supply* [17/11/14 23:52] *Burns*:There has always been unlimited supply. [17/11/14 23:52] Azkhael:In a sense. [17/11/14 23:52] Curiose:No, he truly means there is unlimited supply. [17/11/14 23:52] *Burns*:I have 11 charms, but they are useable unlimited. What limits them is the way i gave them out. [17/11/14 23:52] Muratus del Mur:what about them? [17/11/14 23:52] Kyphis:RL Money has never held, and never should hold sway over what happens in MD, aside from in a market perspective with SC, GC, and creatures [17/11/14 23:52] Rophs:When will there be a use for the sign clicky at fortune's well? [17/11/14 23:53] Tipu:Unlimited supply ...interesting [17/11/14 23:53] *Burns*:WPs are almost the same, we could get new ones at any point in time, simply by asking for some. The limit is that we didn't do so. [17/11/14 23:53] *Chewett*:When I code it rophs [17/11/14 23:53] Azkhael:Hmm, I do understand, but did Mur not intend to give out an arbitrarily amount of codes to a few individuals, rather than generators? [17/11/14 23:53] Azkhael:Pardon my ignorance. [17/11/14 23:54] Muratus del Mur:your financial support is essential for keeping md running, without it there would be no hosting and such, and no md. BUT..there will never be actions in favor of paying members, what you get, you get [17/11/14 23:54] Muratus del Mur:from the shop and by trading, thats it [17/11/14 23:54] Muratus del Mur:in fact, if i hear anyone claiming anything else, like a role, just because "they paid" ..i will be sure they will have a much more difficult time and lower chance to get that role [17/11/14 23:55] *Burns*:We tried different versions, but the WP flow didn't change much on the factor of how they were provided. [17/11/14 23:55] blackrider:i like that we shouldnt be able to pay for a higher role good thinking [17/11/14 23:55] Muratus del Mur:so don't even try to use your supporter status as an advantage, i never look at it, all players will always be treated the same regardless of their support ammount [17/11/14 23:56] Azkhael:The bottleneck doesn't depend on the supply of WPs, as the source was always limitless. [17/11/14 23:56] Kyphis: (Black playernames, haven't seen those in a while, woo!) [17/11/14 23:56] dst:that's a dead player [17/11/14 23:56] Aeoshattr: (Koshu died now or was he dead for a while? o.o) [17/11/14 23:56] Muratus del Mur:wps are about infltion. like currency [17/11/14 23:56] Granos:Can we get Ponies added to the shop? [17/11/14 23:56] blackrider:dead for a while [17/11/14 23:57] Curiose:Mur, do ou still intend to inflate the WP Currency? I remember you mentioning this some years ago. [17/11/14 23:57] Kyphis: (Oh, did not realize they had been given the black colour, thought it was like the high activity tests of yonder year) [17/11/14 23:57] :Koshu Farsight sits back [17/11/14 23:57] *Burns*:Indeed. The bottleneck would be the people who have access to them, and don't find anything they value high enough to use them for. [17/11/14 23:57] Rophs:Will more players have ability to award spelldocs? [17/11/14 23:57] Azkhael:What I am asking is whether, since Mur has spoken of handing a number of codes to a few players, and not having to resupply them, the number would be sufficient that the supply could not be exhausted. [17/11/14 23:58] *Chewett*:When they prove themselves worthy RE rophs [17/11/14 23:58] Ary Endleg:Will combat get fixed? [17/11/14 23:58] Rophs:Will TK be able to rewardspelldocs? [17/11/14 23:58] blackrider:i think with spells you should unlock it in the main quest [17/11/14 23:58] Azkhael:Hence virtually limitless/arbitrarily large. [17/11/14 23:58] Kyphis:Azkhael, from memory WP codes have an expiration time [17/11/14 23:58] Muratus del Mur:probably spell docs will become real again, its up to you if you deserve such a role and up to chew to code such rewards, i will focus on a25 dev for a while [17/11/14 23:58] *Chewett*:I have been giving out the ability to reward spelldocs slowly Mur [17/11/14 23:58] *Chewett*:FYI [17/11/14 23:59] Curiose:I don't believe that is within the abilities of the TKs, rophs. [17/11/14 23:59] dst:WP codes don't have expiration date [17/11/14 23:59] Curiose:From what I recall they specifically focus on being the treasurey for quests. I do not know if they are under Mur's hand or not like before or if they have diverged from that. [17/11/14 23:59] Azkhael:In that case, I refer back to my question. [18/11/14 00:00] Curiose:It was never specified back in the changing of hands, specifically Lightsage's rennovation. [18/11/14 00:00] blackrider:what of the fighting will that be changed [18/11/14 00:01] Curiose:Az, I'm not sure I understand your question and I apologize, otherwise I would try to answer. [18/11/14 00:01] Time Patrol:we do not give away spelldocs [18/11/14 00:01] Muratus del Mur:from time to time me or chew will focus on a certain aspect of md development. [18/11/14 00:01] dst:you keep them for yourselves...meanies! [18/11/14 00:01] Curiose:Thank you, TP for clarifying. [18/11/14 00:01] Azkhael:@Curiose: I recall Mur stating that he would only hand WP codes once, in a large amount, to be distributed by quest givers as the opportunity presents itself. I am asking whether, since (...) [18/11/14 00:01] *Burns*:If you get 3 WPs to test your skill, you use those 3 and then run out. After a while, you might or mihgt not get a practically unlimited supply, then you just ask for codes. [18/11/14 00:01] Muratus del Mur:i will focus on a25 tools, and in general the wild part of the features [18/11/14 00:02] Muratus del Mur:ats whay i like more [18/11/14 00:02] Azkhael:supply would not be renewed, it be sufficiently large that exhaustion would not be a concern. [18/11/14 00:02] Muratus del Mur:chew will do whatever he wants [18/11/14 00:02] Ary Endleg:what about dude2? [18/11/14 00:02] Azkhael:it would be sufficiently* [18/11/14 00:02] Muratus del Mur:when he will be woring on a certain part of md, he can assign roles and integrate that tech part of md as he wishes...lets say we will be populating md features with human controllers [18/11/14 00:03] Muratus del Mur:dude2 is no longer active [18/11/14 00:03] *Chewett*:Im going for a bit, Might be back before this ends, later Mur. [18/11/14 00:03] Muratus del Mur:cya chew [18/11/14 00:03] Curiose:Ah. I see. Regarding WPs I do not believe exhaustion would occur very quickly, as they have high value in the game. Again, I can no longer assume that there is intended inflation for the currency of [18/11/14 00:03] Muratus del Mur:brb10min [18/11/14 00:03] Azkhael:I am not concerned as tot hat it might happen quickly. [18/11/14 00:03] Curiose:WPs or not, however, it would be safe to think that if there were exhaustion it would be much later down the line, within months or oso. [18/11/14 00:03] Azkhael:But, rather, that it might happen at all. [18/11/14 00:03] Rophs:Chew and Mur both afk [18/11/14 00:04] Curiose:There is possibility if quest creators create quests that are viable. [18/11/14 00:04] Tipu:2400 Ann to read ... [18/11/14 00:04] *Burns*:There will never be a global WP shortage, if you fear that. [18/11/14 00:04] Eon:. [18/11/14 00:04] Tipu:Holy cow [18/11/14 00:04] Granos:So is the water here really water or something else... [18/11/14 00:04] Azkhael:as to that* [18/11/14 00:04] Ary Endleg:water [18/11/14 00:04] : Eon collects water [18/11/14 00:04] Curiose:He is speaking of personal WP codes, I think, Burns. [18/11/14 00:04] Ary Endleg:voidy water [18/11/14 00:04] Curiose:Not whether the supply in general is limited. [18/11/14 00:04] Ary Endleg:the lifeblood of granos [18/11/14 00:04] samon:Looks wet to me [18/11/14 00:05] samon:So probably water [18/11/14 00:05] Asthir:The cat should test [18/11/14 00:05] Azkhael:Curiose is correct in her assessment. [18/11/14 00:05] *Grido*:Depends how long you've been here Granos [18/11/14 00:05] *Burns*:Well, then the answer is: depends. [18/11/14 00:05] Granos:I thought it may have been urine... [18/11/14 00:05] :Ailith chuckles at Grido [18/11/14 00:05] Ary Endleg:Eon drinks your voidy water in morning with his cereals, it makes him strong [18/11/14 00:05] Curiose:If ever a quest creator were to run out of codes, they could always regain more by the Tks, yes? [18/11/14 00:05] blackrider:they are right to do so they are the creators [18/11/14 00:05] *Grido*:you used a fountain for...another purpose, before, so wouldnt suprise me [18/11/14 00:05] Curiose:Time Patrol should be able to clarify or not whether that is correct. [18/11/14 00:06] dst:YES Curiose, YES [18/11/14 00:06] :No one passed Sand to dst [18/11/14 00:06] Curiose:: p [18/11/14 00:06] Curiose:Thanks, Dst! [18/11/14 00:06] Azkhael:Do the Treasure Keepers have a genuinely infinite source that does not rely on asking Mur for more? [18/11/14 00:06] *Burns*:Some people can go to Chewie and ask for codes, and will receive them. People who are newer to quest-making might only get 1 sponsored, or 2-3 codes to see how they work with them. [18/11/14 00:06] dst:yw! [18/11/14 00:06] Curiose:Yes. [18/11/14 00:06] :Azrafar passed Flowers to dst [18/11/14 00:06] dst:what's the fuss with WP all of the sudden! [18/11/14 00:06] dst:?? [18/11/14 00:06] blackrider:yeah [18/11/14 00:07] blackrider:good point [18/11/14 00:07] dst:make good quests and I, personally, will sponsor with WPs [18/11/14 00:07] Ary Endleg:people have to talk smack about something, it just happens to be wp [18/11/14 00:07] Curiose:It was a question asked earlier and Azrafar had a question that wasn't answered and so we're tying to answer it for him. [18/11/14 00:07] Curiose:: p [18/11/14 00:07] Time Patrol: (sry, wasnt following, what should I clarify? i am afk mostly) [18/11/14 00:07] dst:for half an hour Curi? [18/11/14 00:07] *Burns*:I'm still trying to comprehend the full scope of the question, but answering parts helps :P [18/11/14 00:07] Curiose:It came about when codes were brought up. (And that's okay, TP, it's fixed) [18/11/14 00:07] Curiose:And yes, Dst. : p [18/11/14 00:08] Curiose:It is MD, some things take longer than others. [18/11/14 00:08] Time Patrol: (good xD) [18/11/14 00:08] dst:not on my nerves... [18/11/14 00:08] Azrafar: (Hmm. It was just about a permanent quest I did. It is resolved.) [18/11/14 00:08] Curiose:: p Of course. [18/11/14 00:08] Kyphis:Don't worry, I'm sure we will have an answer.... soon ;) [18/11/14 00:08] Curiose:"MD Soon" [18/11/14 00:08] Azkhael:To reiterate: Mur said he would distribute a large amount of WP codes to some individuals, and then never again. I was checking whether the amount distributed would be arbitrarily large, or (...) [18/11/14 00:08] Kyphis: ;) ;) [18/11/14 00:08] Azkhael:whether there'd always be a limitless source not reliant on Mur distributing more. [18/11/14 00:09] Time Patrol: (just a general info - you can always pm me or pip if you have any questions) [18/11/14 00:09] Granos:So I wonder if we will be able to use WP's for things like genocide... [18/11/14 00:09] Curiose:Thanks, TP [18/11/14 00:09] Curiose:That would be cool, Granos. Whoever that can cause the greatest mass murder will be granted a WP [18/11/14 00:09] Ary Endleg:I want out [18/11/14 00:09] blackrider:i want in [18/11/14 00:10] *Grido*:If whoever has them runs low on wp, I'm sure more will appear Azk [18/11/14 00:10] :Ailith facepalms [18/11/14 00:10] :dst facepalms Ailith's palm [18/11/14 00:10] Curiose:But I believe Mur may have been referring to a splurge in quests to his specifications. I do not have the actual mentioning of this, however. [18/11/14 00:10] Azkhael:I don't doubt it, Grido. But it is silly to speak of not handing more WP codes if he will just be forced to hand out more codes eventually. [18/11/14 00:11] Aeoshattr: (sleep time. Good night all.) [18/11/14 00:11] Curiose:As he was clarifying it, but folks were talking inbetween. [18/11/14 00:11] dst:he might indeed not do it [18/11/14 00:11] Azkhael:I tend to agree with Curiose by now, however, all things considered. [18/11/14 00:11] Lintara: (goodnight Aeo ^^) [18/11/14 00:11] dst:but there are always TKs and last resort: Chew! [18/11/14 00:11] Curiose:Yep! [18/11/14 00:11] Azrafar: (Gone to get some coffee) [18/11/14 00:11] Ary Endleg:So WPs are so important out of the sudden? there is nothing of greater importance? okay.... [18/11/14 00:11] Curiose:SO no need to worry. [18/11/14 00:11] Azkhael:Now, Ary, I missed the rest of the conversation. [18/11/14 00:11] Curiose:It's just the topic at hand, Ary. [18/11/14 00:12] Curiose:I dislike calling you Ary, so I'm going to call you Arnold. [18/11/14 00:12] blackrider:and what of people new to making quest [18/11/14 00:12] Ary Endleg:I came half minute before you did azkhy :P [18/11/14 00:12] Azkhael:And I likely will miss the rest. Something is coming up soon. [18/11/14 00:12] dst:Schwartzy! [18/11/14 00:12] Kyphis:I'll be grabbing a log once all meaningful conversation ends [18/11/14 00:12] Curiose:Arnold Schwartzy! Brilliant! [18/11/14 00:12] Ary Endleg:I dislike you having my name as a tag, so we are even :P [18/11/14 00:12] Curiose:He can be a governor of... Something! [18/11/14 00:12] Muratus del Mur: (back) [18/11/14 00:12] Curiose:I was here long before you, Ary. [18/11/14 00:12] dst:HIDE! [18/11/14 00:12] *Grido*:The wprc's will appear from somewhere, nobody needs to worry excessively about where preciely they will come from [18/11/14 00:12] *Burns*:New people always had to look for sponsors, that will likely not change. [18/11/14 00:12] Curiose:So you essentialyl are my copy cat. [18/11/14 00:12] *Eara Meraia*:you should have done it already then, Kyp :D [18/11/14 00:12] Ary Endleg:Archduke, not governor [18/11/14 00:13] Muratus del Mur:yes, everything important on my side is said [18/11/14 00:13] Curiose:You cannot be angry at one who was the original. [18/11/14 00:13] Granos:Hes going to kill us all Run! [18/11/14 00:13] Curiose:I wouldn't mind being dead. Would stir some stuff up. : D [18/11/14 00:13] :Ailith gives Mur a WP [18/11/14 00:13] blackrider:what of the people trying to obtain a role what would they need to do to obtain a role then mur [18/11/14 00:13] Azkhael:Be noticed and don't do a shoddy job of it. [18/11/14 00:13] :Granos gives the WP a low rating [18/11/14 00:13] Kyphis:Make sure the kings and land leaders know about it [18/11/14 00:14] Ary Endleg:I totally would like to see you dead lol [18/11/14 00:14] blackrider:me? [18/11/14 00:14] :Ailith smacks Granos [18/11/14 00:14] :dst raises teh rating of the WP [18/11/14 00:14] Curiose:Ary, don't be jealous now. You are third in line for true Ary status. [18/11/14 00:14] :[Spell] esuohthgilotdnes *Clock Master*, concussion, Azkhael, *Eagle Eye*, Muratus del Mur, *Burns*, *Grido*, Lintara, Granos, Valoryn, *Eara Meraia*, Ary Endleg, Azull, JadenDew, lashtal, Sir Blut, Aeoshattr [18/11/14 00:14] Rophs:blackrider find something in MD you think is fun and then do it overand over. [18/11/14 00:14] Curiose:Oh wow, lots of folk disapeared. [18/11/14 00:14] Rophs:Eon you didn't brinf me? [18/11/14 00:15] blackrider:to become a role [18/11/14 00:15] Rophs:At least King *coughs* Grido will be there. [18/11/14 00:15] :[Spell] eugnotrevlis Rophs [18/11/14 00:15] Curiose:Grido's still king? Interesting. [18/11/14 00:15] blackrider:who did the first spell [18/11/14 00:15] Rophs: *yawns* Boring [18/11/14 00:15] blackrider:still learning spells [18/11/14 00:16] Rophs:Iᴌ ѡaގ ଽoղ [18/11/14 00:16] Curiose:Silvertongue does not work-- oh never mind, it needs a refresh. [18/11/14 00:16] Rophs:ऄiގ caގᴌ ѡoℜdގ aℜଽ alѡaᎩގ ᴌऄଽ ގթଽll'ގ ղamଽ backѡaℜdގ [18/11/14 00:16] Curiose:WB to those returning. [18/11/14 00:16] :blackrider hahahaha roles around laughing [18/11/14 00:17] blackrider:wow alot of people just left [18/11/14 00:17] Lintara:Thanks! [18/11/14 00:17] blackrider:is this meeting still ajurred [18/11/14 00:17] Rophs:ଽoղ ᴌଽlଽթoℜᴌଽd ᴌऄଽm ⁂Ꮆℜiղގ⁂ [18/11/14 00:17] Rophs:\ [18/11/14 00:18] powle:. [18/11/14 00:18] Curiose:I wonder why I am the one who gets whipped and Ivo is the one doing the beatings... [18/11/14 00:18] Azrafar:I wish I would be teleported back where I was, before the meeting. [18/11/14 00:18] :[Spell] Echo [18/11/14 00:19] Rophs:\AℜℜaղᎶଽmଽղᴌᴌގ ѡill թℜobablᎩ bଽ madଽ [18/11/14 00:19] Rophs:A [18/11/14 00:19] Rophs:\Ꭱ[/spoiler] Edited November 17, 2014 by Kyphis the Bard Eagle Eye, Azthor, Menhir and 2 others 5 Quote
Rophs Posted December 9, 2014 Author Report Posted December 9, 2014 The wiki page for council needs to be updated. Eagle Eye 1 Quote
Root Admin Muratus del Mur Posted December 10, 2014 Root Admin Report Posted December 10, 2014 Or just added a "date" so to say Quote
Rophs Posted January 7, 2015 Author Report Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) But what if council is not kill? Ann. 3281 - [2015-01-07 14:43:51 - Stage 12] - Permalink - Posted By Chewett After many years of waiting, Miq has been given a spell to teleport players to the checkers hall, so that they may enter the sunny bedroom more easily. He has performed this role for a number of years now very well and we (Council and I) promised him a similar ability a long time ago. However he was always accepting that it was a low priority and therefore may take time to be performed. We thank him for his work. Edited January 7, 2015 by Rophs Pipstickz and Kyphis the Bard 1 1 Quote
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