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Oh, and a bit of a joke we had when Mur arrived at the GOE to provide entertainment. The suggested entertainment was poledancing. The next suggestion was a drawing of such.
This is a quick draft conjured up in 15 minutes or so. Maybe I'll finish it one day.

another work doodle in progress (yeah I had to copy a huge database a few times today, so I had some spare time )
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another work time lunch break thing, still needs some work though


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Another little work doodle

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A little bit different from my usual style
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Also
I recently promised to show some step by step progress on an avatar. So I will strive to scan in my steps more regularly on this next avatar.
Step 0 would be the doodles I made for dark demon.
Step 1 is shown below.

Basically you start with a glorified stick figure. This step is VITAL. you draw, redraw, redraw again, redraw some more till you reckon the limbs are in the right proportions as well as the entire thing being anatomically possible.
the anatomically correct part, well it is good judgement and basically, either a wooden drawers doll...or, well, a full sized mirror.
Yes, I do actually stood in front of a mirror in this pose to see if i got the arms right.
it is advised to do this when noone is home, cause you look like an idiot.

There are sites with the measurements for a human body, forearm is length x, leg is length x times 1.5 or so. But after a while, or with some basic talent, you can just see what is right and wrong.
This process however is horridly more complicated when the figure is not straight facing the viewer, you then have to work in some perspective, meaning all your carefull measurements are now required to be adapted for perspective. This is where a good eye for such really comes into play.

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Drawing helps me think at times.
So today I had to code a dynamic hierarchical index array, with in theory endless amounts of recursiveness.
I ended up with a solution, and this:

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because I was feeling cowish
Meet Kung-Moo Cow

Ok, decided to have a whirl at this too
Mostly cause this game is the reason I had an urge to draw again

Aside from that, here it is. I couldn't figure out where the upload function for the forums where and I couldn't be bothered to javascript my own lightbox. So here we go, oldschool.


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Oh, and a bit of a joke we had when Mur arrived at the GOE to provide entertainment. The suggested entertainment was poledancing. The next suggestion was a drawing of such.
This is a quick draft conjured up in 15 minutes or so. Maybe I'll finish it one day.

Ok, it's been a while.
 
And I seem to have done very little dark stuff lately.
 
But here we go, something I had laying around and just needed to finish up.
 

No clue if people care for a peak into the kitchen again, but here's another work in progress if you do.
If you don't, please press the back button on your browser :)
 

and while we're getting stuff out of the way. Lost drawing of pre-coma
 

and further proof I still at times hold a pencil (though most of the time it is during boring boring work meetings and such (they really think I am an avid note taker, ha))

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So I am back. Huzzay.
And ofcourse the moment I returned the damned drawing bug hit me again.
And seeing i could not quite find where I left my previous unfinished work (ok I have found it by now) I started on a new attempt.
 
No clue if this will ever work as an avatar, but eh, here we go, proof of me being back.
(ps not done yet)
(pps it's a picture with my phone, scanner still not installed)
 

I like the idea of drachs coming into the realm like this. Aside from that, I assume those that did the initial quest can enter in this as well. But can't use their previous submission in any form? (to prevent me from buying paint, painting the statue and sending it. Seeing I would not really be copying anyone else :))

I like the idea of drachs coming into the realm like this. Aside from that, I assume those that did the initial quest can enter in this as well. But can't use their previous submission in any form? (to prevent me from buying paint, painting the statue and sending it. Seeing I would not really be copying anyone else :))

Erasers: there's the kind with 2 sides, a rougher and a finer grit, tend to be red and blue. They have a tapered end to each which is nice to allow you to erase with a bit of a finer line.
Personally I erase very little, only in the beginning stages of a drawing where I use fine lines which are erased a bit more easily.
I'm often guilty of just 'drawing over' errors later. If you draw darker things it's fairly easy to just take a strand of hair, a black belt or a flap of a cloak or such to draw it over a flaw. But this is partially due to my tendency to draw during lunchbreaks with a ballpoint (try erasing that) or using crappy printer paper when I just had an urge to draw and have nothing better in my immediate vicinity.

Well, it depends on what you want to draw ofcourse. But getting a set of 3b to h3 pencils will help. Mechanical pencils ( I am going to assume those are the ones with the thin little rods that come out by clicking the end) tend to feel a bit more like the harder pencils due to create finer lines by the nature of their design.
I myself couldn't draw a 'clean' picture with minimalistic lines if my life depended on it, but for others, that's the style they enjoy and fine lines are nice for such (clean would be something like nadrolski's avie). Paper wise the stuff they sell in hobbyshops works better, allows for some easier erasing, it's a bit thicker and so on.
 
That all said, I've always considered materials to be of a second or perhaps even third concern. I did my own avie with a ballpoint pen on some printer paper during work lunch breaks.
 
So what would be the first two concerns.
Creativity/inspiration/source material. I draw stuff from some mental image that occurs to me at some point . (I at times even just scribble some lines and then come up with what it should become). But having some good idea of what and how you want to draw, how much of your ideas you need to 'borrow' or how much you just come up with on your own. (Will I do these dragon scales like this artist did in this picture.... or here's my dragon, i will just start and see where it leads me scale wise).
Anatomy and relational sizes. You can draw a perfectly shaded picture. Marvelous details. But if the head is a bit too big for the torso, or if that arm is twisted in a wrong way, it will look horrid. Unless it's cartoony style of course. It's a bit akin to the 3d cgi issue, the closer you approach reality, the more small faults will be recognized by the brain to be wrong. They have these anatomical dolls for such, I never used those (this is one of those talents I seem to be born with) but I have in the past posed before a camera. Yes, it will look stupid, but you got a nice picture of anatomy that works to start from, in exactly the pose you like.
I suggest not diving into perspective poses at first (like a hand pointing towards the viewer, stuff like that) cause they can be a real pain i the ^%#. The big thing is, you need to get the measurements right at the START. Because if you're trying to fix things when half the shading is done it's going to be messy as hell, if not completely impossible.
 
And finally, recalling how I learned drawing... no, perhaps not learned, how I improved drawing (because there's a certain degree of natural talent that people just have or don't have. And I have no clue if this can be trained easily) is by using tracer paper. So add that to the shopping list. Trace some picture, perhaps of some artwork you like or of a photo. Pick a facial one and a full body one. Trace contours, try to mimic the shading, just get a feel for the stages of a drawing, for the required techniques.
After feeling comfy with the techniques, try your own. I think I posted some pics in my drawing topic with 3 stages of dark's avie. I tend to start out by drawing one of those anatomical dolls (even though I don't have one), fiddling with the body parts till happy, then a moment of roughly 'clothing' and outlining the body to finally detail it and shade it.
So, that's about it. I can't really say if there's any grand tutorials, seeing I started drawing when i was 4. (and eventually stopped drawing for a long long time till I got into this place) But the inert skill always has been there. I know I practiced by copying some images. But in the end, it's just start with something. Hate the result. Find the flaws (see them yourself or ask for feedback). Start a new. Hate it again. There's always going to be someone better, always room for improvement and if you are anything like me, you will always be dissatisfied with the end result. Your own worst critic.(which is  a good thing at times, because other people will often be to nice (which is nice of them) and say things like 'different styles' and such. But in the end, you will know your picture is not as good as x or y's picture, or the art you used as inspiration. And no amount of cuddly comments will help that feeling :) )
And do holler if you at some point want a bit of feedback. I promise I will point out what is done well (purely my opinion) and what looks bad (again opinions can differ).

Ok, it's been a while.
 
And I seem to have done very little dark stuff lately.
 
But here we go, something I had laying around and just needed to finish up.
 

Ok, it's been a while.
 
And I seem to have done very little dark stuff lately.
 
But here we go, something I had laying around and just needed to finish up.
 

Ok, it's been a while.
 
And I seem to have done very little dark stuff lately.
 
But here we go, something I had laying around and just needed to finish up.
 

Ok, it's been a while.
 
And I seem to have done very little dark stuff lately.
 
But here we go, something I had laying around and just needed to finish up.
 

Ok, it's been a while.
 
And I seem to have done very little dark stuff lately.
 
But here we go, something I had laying around and just needed to finish up.
 

Ok, it's been a while.
 
And I seem to have done very little dark stuff lately.
 
But here we go, something I had laying around and just needed to finish up.
 

Ok, it's been a while.
 
And I seem to have done very little dark stuff lately.
 
But here we go, something I had laying around and just needed to finish up.