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[quote name='aaront222' date='24 February 2010 - 09:16 PM' timestamp='1267046215' post='55125']
Here is me hurting Bob-

aaront222: *plants a tree next to Bob* Threre you go Bob. Your ex-wife!
aaront222: *plants another tree next to Bob* Your mother in law!
: aaront222 laughs manically
[/quote]
Fantastic! now there is more for me to harvest. I should make a fortune if I were selling it. Enemies of bob...we look out for him.

[quote name='JacoAnd' date='25 February 2010 - 02:42 PM' timestamp='1267108975' post='55205']
Okey... Then I will await your decision.
[/quote]
In the meantime, wanna do a trade Jaco??
(I am kidding of course.....)

[color="#0000FF"]I would ask you to refrain from this in future, it's quite an useless post. In a serious topic.[/color]

[quote name='aaront222' date='24 February 2010 - 09:16 PM' timestamp='1267046215' post='55125']
Here is me hurting Bob-

aaront222: *plants a tree next to Bob* Threre you go Bob. Your ex-wife!
aaront222: *plants another tree next to Bob* Your mother in law!
: aaront222 laughs manically
[/quote]
Fantastic! now there is more for me to harvest. I should make a fortune if I were selling it. Enemies of bob...we look out for him.

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Dare or double dare.............oh yes!! I AM looking forward to that one!!

Dare or double dare.............oh yes!! I AM looking forward to that one!!

i see alot of complaints. I see alot of reprisals to the complaints. What I don't see alot of is people saying why they still play MD if it's so "boring"

I love MD. I have been a major MMORPG player for longer then some of you have been alive. I still log on every day, and i still find enjoyment in the game every day. You know wich is I care least about in the game is fighting. To me the interaction between people is the most important thing that keeps me coming back each day, followed by peoples constant continuation of their story lines. Festivals are 3rd with GOOD quests as a close 4th. Then creature collection, trading, and somewhere down twards the bottom of the list fighting.

If I ever found MD as boring as some of you seem to feel, I'd quit the game. Since after all the game is about FUN.

Well i get into work today to find messages complaining again about RP issues.
I have to admit i was very angry to find out what had happened.

So i decided i would wait a few hours and see what may be done IF anything.
Since i gave myself the time to think and to work out a few things i have now
decided to post a topic. First of all THIS is NOT an attack on any one person
or group of people. I am going to do my best not to point the finger or point
the blame.

I will say first that it really annoys me when things like this happen. As MD is
suppose to be a Multiplayer online role playing Game. Correct me if i am wrong in
this but that means people with use RP methods withing the system.

So i have decide i will list some topics here and try my best to keep on the topics i list

1. What is RP?
2. What tools are used for RP?
3. Who has the right?
4. How should this be resolved.

Ok so the first point

[b]1. What is RP?[/b]

Well RP is done different in everyone's eyes. So we need to find the common ground for what RP is
in MD and what its place is. So FROM MY POINT, RP is the gathering of people to act out what there character
is and what they believe. This is an interactions of personalities and traits a player has developed
for there character and how this character interacts with others. To me RP is the FUN PART of interacting and
keeping to what you have set for your character. It is an investment of time from a player to a game system be
it online or offline. This character becomes an extension of ones personality. So RP is how one would use that
personality to interact with another personality and much can be learned from this.

Now that is my point of View on what RP is.

This is taken from Wiki (got to love wiki)

Role-playing refers to the changing of one's behavior to assume a role, either unconsciously to fill a social role,
or consciously to act out an adopted role. While the Oxford English Dictionary defines role-playing as
"the changing of one's behavior to fulfill a social role", the term is used more loosely in three senses:

* To refer to the playing of roles generally such as in a theater, or educational setting;
* To refer to a wide range of games including computer role-playing games, play-by-mail games and more;
* To refer specifically to role-playing games.

So there is 2 different opinions on what Role-playing is.

[b]2. What tools are used for RP?[/b]

Well there are many way to RP. MD has multiple way of doing this through chat or PM.
When i first started playing in MD there was no *Blue Text* it was just text and useing brackets
to show an action was used. Now after a while the chat got overhauled and we now have several features.
We have the (gray text used to speak out of character) we have *the Blue text used to show an action has
been taken* both of the mentions features are extremely handy to use and help to keep people focused on
what is happening in the chat. BUT... So people don't agree that this is a role-playing tool. I don't know
why as it is an easy way to tell if someone meant something in game or not or when someone is doing an action.

Yes there are other tools too like when someone uses a spell it is in yellow/orange and uses the text by that
play for there spell. This also brings more Role-play to the chat as some players are creative with the text
used and shows as different type of action. I am sure there are other features i have not mentioned but the
ones above are the ones i use most often.

So what is the point of having those features for RP if they are not RP. They were not there before and when they
were put in place they were used very quickly and adapted to and now almost everyone know what is meant by the
different text and how to use it to express them self's in a better way. I for one think of this as proper RP
using those actions and OOC functions help a lot in role-playing.

I am sure other will have different opinions on this matter but that to me is the basic underling functions of
what the chat was made into so why waste such features.

[b]3. Who has the right?[/b]

Well in my mind only ONE pension has the right. That is the Games creator. Now it is up to that person to state
who he give that right to and then there is no misunderstanding. In a system such a MD there are MANY diffrent
locations that cannot be monitored by any ONE person. So yes other may be give the responsibility of doing this job.
It is still a very difficult job to do but this job needs to be handeled with care and yes required one to be strick
in a sense.

The issue is that people are now too afraid to try doing proper RP, why? well because so far any attempt at it has be quashed
and the people involved are ether moved or attacked and told off very publicly. We have been told we cannot use The OLD Lore.
ok i have to agree to this in most of what had been done in the past. BUT what LORE can we use? We have our players history
but that does not have anything to do with the lands and there history and stories. I have used very little of the OLD Lore and
any part i have used has been the very obscure parts. Something has to be usable or it turns people away.

So who has the RIGHT to say what RP is and is NOT. Well like is said the game creator. The people he has SAID have the right. But also
the people have a right too. but to express it in the forums is fine. But to public berate someone in chat in front of any new players
that to be is not acceptable in ANY way as this just creates a bad taste in ones mouth and turns potential new player away for good.

[b]4. How should this be resolved.[/b]

Well i believe there are many ways to resolve this. (1) create some proper history for the realm to use. It does not have to be great it does not have to be 100% true. No 1 story is 100% true there is always someone else side to a story and people have a tendency to embellish facts.
This is what makes stories interesting. (2) Give some people facts about the realm and let them find the truth with friends by there side.
(3) as Mentioned by me before create the PAL (Player AL) have this controlled by the archives. This allows them to do there job like they are suppose to be able to. The 3 point i have made there are easy to implement and would make the MD world rich with new players and old that can then
develop there stories with more fun and have there RP mentioned withing the system. I still think the PAL would be great as this then allows RP to be vetted properly and would even bring some new stories to the Realm. This could also serve as a base for Mur to grab story ideas and possible put them in the MD AL

Ok i have to stop or i will go off topic. I hope i have managed to keep to no finger pointing and that my point is made.
I know many will have opinions and please do make them. I just want us to all STOP pointing the finger and just Get on with
getting things going again and have fun like it was back in the old days.

Yrth

[color="#8B0000"][font="Palatino Linotype"]In a way it would be nice to have a history segment for each land. I often hear snippets of different people that are long gone, but had an impact on many people. When I ask about them, the information is small in coming. I'm not saying huge books or anything like that. Maybe a collection of past character descriptions and what they did for that particular land or the entire realm that makes people draw to them and remember them.
Yeah the AL can be sorted and slugged through. It's hard to get a real sense of the person from it though. I'm thinking more of a book of biographies.

As for RP, some very much like it and others not so much. I was under the impression that Mur approved of RP because of the different chat abilities. I may be wrong. To me, RP enriches the realm. It gives our characters depth. People are not flat, black-and-white beings. They have depth and color. They have emotions and feelings. If they cannot be expressed through our characters, a portion of MD is lost.

I hear about people and their roles. If RP is not approved of, does this mean that an RP role isn't a real role? I'm rather empathic in the real world so I brought that to MD. Here it is seen as an RP role; therefore, some don't see it as a real role. I don't have a major problem with that, but it hurts when I'm repremanded for being who I am. To me, it's a form of prejudice. Just like hating me because I'm from the US, white, or a woman.[/font][/color]

To quote the MD page itself:

'Multiplayer roleplaying browser game.

MagicDuel is a unique fantasy mmorpg unlike anything you played before. Players can shape the game world with their actions, daily updates and an amazing community, player made quests and unique gameplay make it worthy experience you will never forget.
Tags: fatasy role-playing games, browser mmorpg game, free multiplayer adventure.'

So if it isn't a roleplaying game, perhaps that should be changed to 'stat munching game' or 'the game of zero tolerance'?

This might seem negative, but its a reflection of my current mood about things. I am hoping to be enlightened and encouraged now.

[i](Edited: 08-13-10)[/i]

4. Always think positive, never give up, and have a lot of patience.

1% of 10 is 0.10 as a fraction so would be 10% as a percent if we did the maths properly yes? so he would be correct to get 1 out of 10 coins?
Good idea though!

[quote name='JacoAnd' date='25 February 2010 - 02:42 PM' timestamp='1267108975' post='55205']
Okey... Then I will await your decision.
[/quote]
In the meantime, wanna do a trade Jaco??
(I am kidding of course.....)

[color="#0000FF"]I would ask you to refrain from this in future, it's quite an useless post. In a serious topic.[/color]

[quote name='aaront222' date='24 February 2010 - 09:16 PM' timestamp='1267046215' post='55125']
Here is me hurting Bob-

aaront222: *plants a tree next to Bob* Threre you go Bob. Your ex-wife!
aaront222: *plants another tree next to Bob* Your mother in law!
: aaront222 laughs manically
[/quote]
Fantastic! now there is more for me to harvest. I should make a fortune if I were selling it. Enemies of bob...we look out for him.

[quote name='Phantom Orchid' date='14 February 2010 - 07:11 PM' timestamp='1266174699' post='54478']
Another to add to the list...


: Kamikaze skips up to bob who has been left with no security or protectors in the last few days that he has been here
Kamikaze: *helps himself to the twigs and tips bob a wink I know, and you know. Your an apple tree.....they just cant see.

And, Kamikaze, Bob _always_ has protectors watching over him - irregardless of whether you see them or not.
[/quote]
I am being spied upon! That is clear victimisationism!
Bob loves me, I spread his twigs about everywhere!!

[quote name='Xcercses' date='28 January 2010 - 07:59 AM' timestamp='1264665573' post='53515']
i think that there are four reasons WHY bob-haters trying to hurt him:

first: they are just bad boys and girls and love it to harm living beings that cant defend theirselfs!

second: they are jealous at bob because he is more famous then them!

third: because of revenge(like in dst's case) that he doesnt wanted to bloom for her, you cant FORCE bob to bloom anyway xD

fourth: maybe they are only hurting bob just to insult the defenders. like one of my little welpes, well actually she doesnt hurts him, but it insults the defenders because they dont know what she is doing, i told her to stop it but she has her own mind xD

and now the big BUT! : BUT if nobody would try to kill bob, zlei and all defenders would be jobless

i dont like it if bob gets hurted, but as you can see it is like peace and chaos, the one cant live without the other.
so both sides are needed, the bob-haters and bob-defenders, good and evil or cookies against muffins(what you want to be is your choice)
[/quote]
I love Bob, he is a constant source of materials for my toffee apples. I don't see why people want to hurt him when he has uses......

[quote name='aaront222' date='24 February 2010 - 09:16 PM' timestamp='1267046215' post='55125']
Here is me hurting Bob-

aaront222: *plants a tree next to Bob* Threre you go Bob. Your ex-wife!
aaront222: *plants another tree next to Bob* Your mother in law!
: aaront222 laughs manically
[/quote]
Fantastic! now there is more for me to harvest. I should make a fortune if I were selling it. Enemies of bob...we look out for him.

[quote name='aaront222' date='24 February 2010 - 09:16 PM' timestamp='1267046215' post='55125']
Here is me hurting Bob-

aaront222: *plants a tree next to Bob* Threre you go Bob. Your ex-wife!
aaront222: *plants another tree next to Bob* Your mother in law!
: aaront222 laughs manically
[/quote]
Fantastic! now there is more for me to harvest. I should make a fortune if I were selling it. Enemies of bob...we look out for him.