Sasha Lilias

[quote name='Ivorak' timestamp='1284161051' post='68176'] I believe this is the only attempt to be constructive, but I'm afraid it doesn't make any sense. Why should someone act before thinking? (As I think you seem to have stated.) I think Jazira is putting forth a solid effort, even if I disagree with a few things on a personal, or emotional, level. I would just like to bring up one concern: where is the "church" in the Savelites Church? My understanding of a church is that it is a place (or congregation) for worship. I see that you plan sermons, but none have the element of worship. If you are intentionally minimizing religious elements, could you clarify your intent? [/quote] It means exactly what is says. To me it seems that she, and others, have all acted before thinking about what the alliance is truely about. I also think that Jazira has put a lot of effort in her ideas, and I respect that, but I just think the ideas should be based on the history of the church. [u] @ Jazira[/u] I am sure there are many people that can help you with finding out about the Churchs history, you just need to ask [i][u]lots[/u][/i] of people. [quote name='Firsanthalas' timestamp='1284194433' post='68182'] I am kinda sick of hearing this rhetoric about Rhaegar and the past. Lets give a few history lessons shall we. First up, Rhaegar was let into the alliance along with other people when Grido and Z tried to rebuild it. He did not rebuild it from nothing like Jazira is now attempting to do. Secondly, Rhaegar himself seemed to change the direction and ideas for the Church on several occassions. At one point he started to take up residence in the Tribunal Temple and he spoke about using it as a base for the Savels. That seemed to just peter out after a while. Then he wanted the Savels to be historians in Loreroot, then he started the avatar shop. There is more, but they are the big ones I can think of right off the top of my head. Thirdly, he's a blockhead with as much subtlety as a bull in a china shop. He has zero tact and succeeded in royally getting up a lot of people's noses with his crap. He still does. He had an issue with me from day 1. Why? Because he listened to and believed venomous crap that was still boiling over from old wounds in Loreroot. No matter what happened, he never ever got past that. In short, he was a source of conflict within Loreroot and outside it too. I put up with Rhaegar for as long as I did for one simple fact. I was trying to be fair. I did not want my personal feelings towards him to cloud my judgement and I wanted to give him a chance. Many people felt that I was too soft and I believe that Rhaegar himself started to believe that I was somehow weak and he could push me as much as he wanted. Wrong on that score. He's a control freak. He seemed incapable of delegating tasks and only seemed to want to work with people when he felt like it or if he wanted to. By and large he showed little interest in working with anyone outside the Savels. He openly fostered a belief in at least some of the Savels, that if they were in the alliance before the kingship elections, then they didn't have to recognise the king. For any leader of any group in Loreoot to do such a thing is unacceptable. I also found out that things I said concerning his members were either not passed on or twisted. And he insisted that he deal with his members, not me. Activity of the Savels... Towards the end of his tenure, there was little or none. Most of the members seemed inactive and at least one member seemed to spend more time outside the alliance than actually in it (not a personal dig by the way, merely the way things seemed). When I booted him there was almost no reaction from them. Infact, some of them seemed completely oblivious to what had happened. Personally I was disappointed. I had expected more of a reaction, any reaction. When Marv took over he tried to contact the members and got almost no response until he kicked people. Savelite items.... Rhaegar aggressively sought the items that he felt belonged to the church. He was very insistent (to put it mildly) that they belonged to the church. Where are they now? He refused to return the ones he had to Marvolo, when Marvolo took over. I guess that they only belong to the church if Rhaegar is running it. Maybe it should be called the church of Rhaegar? Alliance location.. Rhaegar himself stated to me very clearly that the Savels belonged in Loreroot and would never leave. Savelite memorial.... Yeah, I find this a mixture of funny and sickening really. For starters it is really a homage to himself and one or two others, as well as a two fingered salute to myself and the rest of Loreroot. He's missing at least one name of an older member from that list and he has included names of people that had long gone before his demise and also some people that were barely there or did anything at all. The Savels are also not dead, so having a 'memorial' is in poor taste in my opinion. The ultimate irony though, is that the alliance should have a memorial, because it should be put to bed in my opinion. But it seems that people in MD have an inability to let go of the past and move on. If this new incarnation of the alliance does not make something of itself it will be going to alliance heaven. Make no mistakes about it. As for a memorial, that should be something that is done by the MD community (or at the very least the land of the alliance), not by one or two people with an axe to grind. Rhaegar had his chance. He blew it royally, so stop this nonsense of saying he should have it back. It is time to give someone else a chance or put the alliance to bed once and for all. [/quote] Firstly, this was not a place to have your personal rants about one person, in this case Rhaegar. You should learn to let the past lie and get on with the future, as you were saying Rhaegar should have done. Secondly, you accused Rhaegar of being a "Control freak". It seems to me that [b][i]you[/i][/b] are the control freak, if anyone dares question your word, or say anything against you, you become a dictator, so yes, in short [i][b]you[/b][/i]are the control freak. Finally- [quote name='Firsanthalas' timestamp='1284200009' post='68186'] Pip, you are a spanner. You love spouting off. Off you go and do something constructive for a change instead of taking pot shots when it suits you. [/quote] In a way this proves what I said about you being a control freak. Someone goes against what you say and you become angry, annoyed and rather childish. Infact, you probably will with this post. Also this comment "You love spouting off." is rather ironic seeing as yourself had just posted an essay on how you dislike Rhaegar.

Your avi back? No I joke. So would you possibly name the sort of creatures you WOULD be willing to trade for please? Thankyou

As much as I respect you Jazira I don't really like the alliance, or guild, anymore. To me it has lost it's true meaning and is now just some sort of play thing to be handed around to various people. Rhaegar was the only one that kept SOME of the true meaning of the Savelites in the guild. Grido didn't spent quite a lot of time re-establishing the guild/alliance just so that it could be demolished once more. Personally I think that the guild should either : [list=1] [*]Be re-taken over by Rhaegar. This being because, as I said before, he at least kept some of the original meanings the guild/alliance. [*]The current leader to revise about the guild/alliance and Savelfuser and actually take it all on board before thinking of the roles within the guild/alliance and it's own rules, regulations and history. [*]Or, this being my favourite suggestion at the moment, to be disbanded. The alliance has lost it's purpose, role and to be honest, originality. [/list] Im sorry to sound like the moaner but this is how I feel and hopefully how others feel as well, with some of it at least. Back to the topic, read this post, take it on board, mix it with your OWN ideas and hopefully you can re-establish the alliance as it should be. Goodluck!

Constructive critisism: I think that you may have to work on keeping to ONE piece of work and perfecting it. When shading you need to think about where the light may be coming from, wether any clothing or objects are casting a shadow and if they are you need to make that area darker. Use a lighter pencil to draw the figure and when editing it and then use a harder pencil for the shadowing/outlining. Also remember about the proportions with the face and arms. I think that if you keep trying you will do well Keep it up ^^ Edit: Got rid of quote, thought it was rider's drawings.

[quote name='Magnus X' date='17 August 2010 - 05:41 AM' timestamp='1282023703' post='66359'] my first attempt at making an avatar: [/quote] Very good I like it

No problem

I believe this could be closed now?

The gold unicorn should be in my bank O_O if it's not then why the hell is it in there?

Sorry, yes yes. I shall contact you shortly.

Way to overpowered :/

[quote name='baiano' date='15 August 2010 - 05:57 PM' timestamp='1281895077' post='66229'] -1 gold +3 silvers + -1 imperial aramor + -1 BP maxed with [claw1] ,[claw2] + -pimped grasan age435 tokened with [blooddrop1,[kellethafire],[emeraldglare],[claw2],[claw1] FOr the rusty [/quote] You have already posted this offer and I will obviously not accept it over $50. I wouldn't accept it for my Drach anyway .

[quote name='Asterdai' date='15 August 2010 - 02:50 PM' timestamp='1281883827' post='66210'] Maxed Drachorn, is it a GG drachorn then? (can delete first post and your reply if you wish) [/quote] Yes

Bump

Bloodpact with:[spoiler][blooddrop3] [blacktear] [goldbelt] [sunshine] [claw2] [claw1] [emeraldglare] [jewelshards] [firedrop] [osirisbelt] [darkshield] [claw3] [blooddrop1][/spoiler]+1GC (I know it only has 13tokens but I am willing to raise my coins also.

[quote name='CrazyMike' date='12 August 2010 - 09:28 PM' timestamp='1281648524' post='65978'] 50 Credits. But I'm expecting more coz its a rusty and it has tons of tokens. [/quote] Rusty's are worth less than GG's, just incase you didn't realise that. Also the tokens will hardly change the amount of credits that people pay for it unless they help the player in a major way. GG's are worth around $50-$60 so I would expect a rusty to sell for $40 :/ Edit: Added worths

I have already removed myself.

[quote name='Chewett' date='11 August 2010 - 06:44 PM' timestamp='1281552273' post='65815'] If you are creating guilds that are supposedly neutral then you should at least not pick someone who has strong affiliation with other lands. [/quote] If you are referring to me, I do not have any strong affliations with any land. Mcvitie does though, to GG, though I have already said none of my alts are influenced by one another, apart from one which is due to role. Also I think I have already made it clear it is not me that plays Lunar Priestess. [quote name='Firsanthalas' date='11 August 2010 - 06:47 PM' timestamp='1281552432' post='65816'] Late note: I would also like to point out that at least one person wanted to change who was in the guild (by that I mean their alts). To me this instantly screams of having no regard to keeping alts separate and distinct. You may disagree, but that is how I see it. [/quote] Just saw this. The reason I said I was willing to drop out from GG was not because of gettign roles mixed but wanting my sister to have an enjoyable time in the guild. If you have brothers or sisters you will know what I am on about. I do not want people saying nasty comments to her, or myself, because an "alt" is in a different land. [color=purple]Posts merged - Grido[/color]

This is where I post my points. Firstly Lunar is not me, it is my sister, which is why I say "speaking on behalf of lunar priestess". Secondly Sasha lilias has left the woodcutters due to these complaints and thirdly Mcvitie has always been a Citizen of GG but if it is going to cause such an uproar then fine, I shall drop from being a citizen of that land. I do not let roles cross, look at mcvitie and sasha, there is a big difference between them.Sasha is neutral and always will be. I hope this helps a little, even if chewett does have a personal problem with me. I think I will let you know of all my alts actually, to get this behind us. Me(Clarissa)-Sasha lilias,Lady Eve,Guess Who, Elementum Era and Mcvitie Mcvities shadow(Chris)-Mcvities shadow, Celestial ice king Lunar priestess(Sasha)- Lunar Priestess.

(Speaking on behalf of Lunar Priestess) [size="4"][color="#00FF00"]If you want it to be that way, but I don't think we would be at eachothers throats at all, you should give us time to get things established properly. Edit: As Mortis has placed across we do not like these rules, but shall comply.[/color][/size]