Bronzometh

[quote name='Miq' date='28 June 2010 - 02:04 AM' timestamp='1277683458' post='62804'] @Bronzometh As i see it you will never catch up with the (fighting) vets while on mp3/4 (nor later really) only thing what you achieve is that when you finally go mp5 with your tokens and stats you will become one of them from newpie point of view and until that you are a pain for new ones at mp4 [/quote] Why would I be a pain for MP4? with all my crits and tokens I will have in the future, I will not terrorize any MP4. I will try to help them as much as I can instead (those who worth being helped, of course - don't want to help someone who might become as Burns in the future). I even started to grow angiens for newbs with my alts. they are still too young to be of any use to anyone atm, but when they will be 120 days old, they will be usefull, and new players will be able to train some good crits before getting to MP5. I noticed that Burns allows GGG to exist for MP5. This might be tempting for MP4 to get to MP5, hoping they could use GGG there. That's what I was thinking after I first red his post. But then, I remember that there are some MP5 players that constantly destroys MP5 defensive rits at GGG. So, in fact, there will be no GGG for MP5 either.As No One said in the first post, he wants GGG closed. Didn't mentioned he wants it close only for MP3 and MP4. Besides, GGG is almost as non existent for MP5 for about a week, since I rarely saw any MP5 there in the last week. as for MP3, I never saw more than 2-3 ppl there, and I was encouraging them to advance to MP4 (because some of them intend to stay at MP3 for a long time). There were actually only several MP4 constantly using GGG (about 5 palyers). GGG is not the reason why ppl don't want to advance to MP5. there are alot more MP4 players than those 5 GGG grinders. You should find the reason why they don't want to advance to MP5, and not be concerned by 5 players. Even though the reason is quite obvious, you just cant see it (or pretend you don't see it, and blame GGG). You will not achieve your goal by closing GGG, simply because GGG is not the reason why ppl don't want to go to MP5.

well, that leaves me only one solution: do nothing else but voting for several years until I get all crits, tokens and boosters from MD shop for my main MP4 account (eventually reset the shop, to get more), and play several alts (which won't get to MP5 either) in this time (or play other games in this time). eventually age some angiens and trade them for coins, with which to buy some more tokened crits. But this way, I will stay more time at MP4 than I would have stayed with GGG working. maybe others will do the same. How does that sound? no one can make me to get to MP5 any time soon, and no one can make me get to MP5 while I am weak. No one can be forced, not even by terrorism. and by the time I will get to MP5, probably most of the current MP5 veterans will already be MP6 or even more.

I don't understand the concern of the MP5 about GGG. I spend a lot of time there, and I rarely see any MP5.actually, at GGG, there usually are 3-4 MP4, occasionally 5-6. Indeed, a while ago, there were alot of MP5, but not lately. Since at MP4 there is no way to loose personal experience, GGG is the only option to train, in order to have any chance to play the game when advancing to MP5. Gaining stats through usual fighting is limited by the exp cap. It is not fun to train all day at GGG for several years. It is actually boring. But is the only way.Otherwise I am sure I will be able to defeat few players at MP5, and will eventually quit the game. Those MP5 who are against GGG have only one reason to close it: they want new weak players to get to MP5 asap, so they can slaughter them easily. They want easy wins.This is the real reason. In other words, they want to make the whole MD a training ground for them, but with no rules (where only veterans will train, and the younger players will act as training dummies). But this is not going to happen, with or without GGG. No one is going to play this game for the only purpose of giving easy wins to veterans.I guess everyone have better things to do than play as dummies for the veterans. I advise all MP4 to make an alt (at least), and get to MP5 with that alt, instead of ruining their main account. If they can manage to play with the alt, then they can advance with the main account. The game is very unbalanced at MP5, since it allows ppl to train there as much as they want with no exp cap restrictions. Mp5 players will say that GGG makes the game as much as unbalanced as MP5 is (or even more). They are wrong. because of the exp cap, players who grinds stats at MP4 won't harm weaker players, since they don't need anymore exp (if they would need exp, they wouldn't train at GGG). And if they want experience, they can get it at GGG from bursts anyway. If you want to destroy GGG, I would suggest to reset the game first, then make all MP not able to loose personal experience (so that MP5 veterans will be forced to move to MP6, and so on). Protect the new players before destroying their only hope. Or you will have no more new players that will play for more than 2 months.

I am a GGG fan, but can't tell you why I love it so much, because it will be a spoiler. however, I can give some clues (which I don't think are spoilers): 1. creatures have a lvl cap, and they need certain amount of experience and wins, and a certain age to reach that lvl. getting more experience than necessary to reach maximum lvl have some advantages and disadvantages. Which are those advantages and disadvantages must discover yourself. whoever wants to benefit the advantages would fight regularly, but those who want to avoid the disadvantage would get the necessary wins at GGG after they got enough experience for that creature. 2. getting more wins than necessary for a creature to get to maximum lvl might also have advantages and disadvantages. Some players want to benefit the advantages of getting more wins than necessary, so, they will keep getting wins (but avoiding the disadvantage of getting more experience). If you would find out the advantage of having more wins than necessary, probably you would understand why some players love GGG so much, and maybe even join them. 3. some players reached their personal experience cap, or are close to, and they can't get more experience for their creatures, and regular fights will bring only personal experience. Others already have necessary experience and wins for all their creatures, but don't have the age to get the creatures to max lvl. those have several alternatives: advance to next MP lvl if they reached personal experience cap, play alt. accounts, or continue getting more wins at GGG. each of this alternatives have advantages and disadvantages. If you would be able to discover and understand the advantages and disadvantages of this alternatives, you would probably understand why some players love so much GGG. In the end, I want to mention that sometimes you can get a fight for experience from some players at GGG. you could even get A LOT of experience in just 1 fight. maybe you could even get more experience there than if you would fight in other areas (if someone plays all day only at GGG, he/she doesn't need VE, and would be willing to give you an easy win with all his VE, which will be transformed into experience for you). So, GGG is not only the best place to get wins. It might be the best place to get experience as well.This is another reason why some players hate GGG. someone could get all wins and experience he/she wants at GGG. It's not necessary to hunt for targets in other places, and fight hard for little experience. Indeed, some creatures can't get wins at GGG (they don't have a non-dmg type of action), and must hunt in other places to get wins for them.