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Today we talked about RP Reality and similar other concepts.

[04/05/20 17:20] Aelis:Do you think RP reality indicator would be better?
[04/05/20 17:20] Aelis:Or a whole new name for it?
[04/05/20 17:21] Ungod:a name change is not what i\'m interested, although some language aspects should be polished, or else it\'s just confusing
[04/05/20 17:22] Aelis:Ah yes. A lot of sections need polishing
[04/05/20 17:22] Ungod:it says there this indicator is a reminder that the more people see it and accept it, the more real it becomes
[04/05/20 17:23] Ungod:but then why is it a requirement? for what? it\'s not a requirement, it\'s a reminder
[04/05/20 17:24] Ungod:and it\'s not a reminder, it\'s a number that tells you your actions have become more real now that more people watch it and accept it
[04/05/20 17:24] Aelis:I think that section makes sense when there were people roleplaying insanely powerful stuff
[04/05/20 17:24] Aelis:I think the "meta" has changed in MD
[04/05/20 17:25] Ungod:well...that means we can cut out that section now?
[04/05/20 17:25] Ungod:since we have items, actions, tags etc
[04/05/20 17:25] Ungod:and they\'re only going to become \'more real\'
[04/05/20 17:25] Aelis:It\'s still important I think
[04/05/20 17:25] Aelis:Like in the strict part:
[04/05/20 17:26] Ungod:OR we can develop that section somehow
[04/05/20 17:26] Aelis:These are the things you can do based on your actual abilities such as spells or special interfaces, actions supported by your inventory items, fights, and other interface supported actions. Simple lo
[04/05/20 17:26] Aelis:I really like this bit
[04/05/20 17:26] Ungod:that poses a question, though
[04/05/20 17:26] Aelis:How do you feel about "RP Reality"
[04/05/20 17:26] :Steno plunders ☻2 heads by attacking appiek
[04/05/20 17:26] Aelis:No other word after that
[04/05/20 17:26] Ungod:suppose there\'s nobody watching and you stand on your head
[04/05/20 17:27] Ungod:according to the rp requirement, it\'s not real. nobody0\'s watching
[04/05/20 17:27] Ungod:suppose you perform a spell, which is more real than your rp
[04/05/20 17:27] Ungod:but there\'s nobody watching, so how real is it compared to what you wrote in chat/roleplayed?
[04/05/20 17:28] Aelis:Heh I like where you\'re going
[04/05/20 17:28] Aelis:Well the trigger panel makes it "real for everyone"
[04/05/20 17:28] Aelis:It\'s visible from every scene
[04/05/20 17:28] Aelis:Can\'t get more real than that
[04/05/20 17:29] Ungod:ok, but this is basically the system deciding to commu icate your rp to the whole realm
[04/05/20 17:29] Aelis:Other items that don\'t show triggers also make changes in the DB
[04/05/20 17:29] Ungod:it no longer depends on the number of people watching
[04/05/20 17:29] Aelis:Which is something I\'d consider a good requirement for reality
[04/05/20 17:29] Aelis:It changes the state of the world
[04/05/20 17:30] Ungod:theoretically, you ccould say it\'s strict reality, but the number is missing
[04/05/20 17:30] Aelis:Whereas "simple words" don\'t
[04/05/20 17:30] Ungod:yes, but it no longer has any relation with the rp req
[04/05/20 17:30] Ungod:i.e. the number of people watching
[04/05/20 17:30] Chewett:Feel free to write these things up and I can make "big changes"
[04/05/20 17:30] Ungod:it\'s \'\'automated\'\', so to speak, asking for nobody\'s implicit or explicit approval
[04/05/20 17:30] Chewett:Going back to work now!
[04/05/20 17:31] Ungod:good luck, Chewett
[04/05/20 17:31] Aelis:See ya, Chewett
[04/05/20 17:31] Aelis:Have a nice one
[04/05/20 17:31] Aelis:Ungod, I guess it\'s because it\'s not RP
[04/05/20 17:31] Aelis:It\'s mechanic
[04/05/20 17:31] Ungod:but it\'s in the damn description you quoted
[04/05/20 17:32] Aelis:It\'s vague, I agree
[04/05/20 17:32] Ungod:that means it needs updated, right?
[04/05/20 17:32] Aelis:But I guess it\'s referring to something like...
[04/05/20 17:32] Aelis:Let\'s see..
[04/05/20 17:32] Aelis:I say something like
[04/05/20 17:32] :Aelis casts a magic rope that prevents Ungod from attacking
[04/05/20 17:32] Aelis:and THEN I cast attacklock on you
[04/05/20 17:33] Aelis:It\'s like asterisks backed by game mechanics
[04/05/20 17:33] Aelis:It\'s not game mechanics on their own
[04/05/20 17:33] Aelis:... I still agree with an update though
[04/05/20 17:33] Ungod:but how is this less real (or not strict reality) than if you have 30 people and you just write the magic rope thing without the actual spell?
[04/05/20 17:34] Ungod:because according to the rp req, it\'s less real
[04/05/20 17:34] Aelis:Because people won\'t just believe you did that
[04/05/20 17:34] Ungod:if you have 30 people chanting \'Go, Go, Aelis\', it\'s real fo\' sure. If you have 2 people chanting it, it\'s less real
[04/05/20 17:35] Ungod:if you have 30 people watching you get entangled in rope, it\'s real; if you have 3 people and a spell, it\'s lesss real
[04/05/20 17:35] Ungod:even if there\'s a spell
[04/05/20 17:35] Aelis:I don\'t think that\'s the way it works
[04/05/20 17:35] Aelis:With 30 people it\'s even harder for you to get entangled
[04/05/20 17:36] Aelis:And a spell might be the only way to convince them
[04/05/20 17:36] Ungod:and if they do?
[04/05/20 17:36] Ungod:without the spell
[04/05/20 17:37] Aelis:Then that\'s it I guess
[04/05/20 17:37] Aelis: (gotta go afk for 5 minutes)
[04/05/20 17:37] Ungod: (ok)
[04/05/20 17:37] Ungod:The thing is, it says here some things are more real than others, world, depending on how many observe the same "reality"
[04/05/20 17:38] Ungod:If that is true, then 30 people observing an attacklock without the spell are experiencing a stronger reality than 3 people experiencing the attacklock spell
[04/05/20 17:39] Aelis:Only if all the 30 people accept that, which is highly unlikely
[04/05/20 17:39] Aelis:The strict requirement adds this:
[04/05/20 17:39] Aelis:Only real things, irrefutable to anyone present.
[04/05/20 17:40] Aelis:And the real one is even strciter in that sense
[04/05/20 17:40] Aelis:If anyone doubts one little aspect of your roleplay, then it\'s "not real"
[04/05/20 17:40] Aelis:I see it as a guideline for people trying to do overpowered things via asterisks
[04/05/20 17:41] Steno:Aelis didn\'t rope on you, he used spider silk instead (like that?)
[04/05/20 17:42] Ungod:he just types ultra fast, so that your vision blurs :)
[04/05/20 17:42] Aelis:Back then people were riding unicorns and throwing fireballs
[04/05/20 17:42] Aelis:The RP reality thing came as a reaction to that, I believe
[04/05/20 17:42] Chewett:Yes
[04/05/20 17:42] Steno:Indeed. Now that people see that less often they fall more in the realm of feasible
[04/05/20 17:42] Chewett:It was intended to anchor personal RP, to "actual" RP
[04/05/20 17:43] Steno:Like the whole "he made a rocket and flew it into the sky" Yeah no, that makes it seem like a joke
[04/05/20 17:43] Chewett:We had a lot of "random" RP, back in the day
[04/05/20 17:43] Steno:People were saying they were forming black holes and folding the cube back onto itself and expecting that because they said it Mur would "make it real"
[04/05/20 17:43] Chewett:Thats why my ceremony, ensured that nothing was "over the top"
[04/05/20 17:43] Chewett:It was purely based on facts everyone agreed with
[04/05/20 17:44] Ungod:so we can all agree that if someone uses a spell in the scene, it\'s very real, even for 2 people, just as real as roleplaying done and accepted by 4 people
[04/05/20 17:44] Chewett:And thats how it "became real"
[04/05/20 17:44] Chewett:Thats why a lot of the past peolpe trying to get leadership of the east failed.
[04/05/20 17:44] Steno:yes
[04/05/20 17:44] Chewett:They failed to recognise, that for it to be real it, it needs to be acceptable to everyone.
[04/05/20 17:44] Steno:Game mechanics facilitate all reality. They even create that reality
[04/05/20 17:46] Ungod:ok, so this reality requirement serves the purpose of telling people if they want their actions to be believable, they have to test them in front of many (unless its backed by game mechanics)
[04/05/20 17:46] Steno: *nods* That\'s how I interpret it.
[04/05/20 17:46] Ungod:there\'s not much sense to put all those numbers there, then
[04/05/20 17:46] Chewett:Not belivable, "recognised by the game"
[04/05/20 17:46] Chewett:Thats the key thing
[04/05/20 17:47] Steno:So saying "my character hid out in the labyrinth and no one was there and got super strong, or developed the power of flight" when no one was around for their 100 days of logins only, doesn\'t work
[04/05/20 17:47] Ungod:how does the game recognize it, then?
[04/05/20 17:47] Ungod:isn\'t it by admin powers?
[04/05/20 17:47] Steno:Chew can you elaborate on what you mean by that?
[04/05/20 17:48] Chewett:The game, is an elaborate way of saying "everything"
[04/05/20 17:49] Chewett:The game encompasses, your character, the other people, and the secret ones.
[04/05/20 17:49] Chewett:If you go to Mur and say "I am King of East, make me king" he goes "nah mate, thats your fantasy"
[04/05/20 17:49] Chewett:Because your "truth" does not match the reality requirements, its just fanciful
[04/05/20 17:49] Chewett:Thats where others failed.
[04/05/20 17:50] :Steno dismembered appiek and took all ☻117 heads.
[04/05/20 17:50] Chewett:What you have to do is actually have the right "level" of belief
[04/05/20 17:50] Chewett:Then the "game" belives you, and you should get what has become true.
[04/05/20 17:51] Chewett:So because I created a world in MD where, everyone accepted I was king, I was made king.
[04/05/20 17:51] Chewett:It fits along with the principle of "You get what you already have"
[04/05/20 17:51] Chewett:If you can create a MD where you are an X, then you should then be given everything to be X
[04/05/20 17:51] Ungod:so when the game recognizes what you do, it becomes real. this is the way to \'fabric\' reality
[04/05/20 17:51] Chewett:Because you are already X
[04/05/20 17:51] Chewett:Yeah
[04/05/20 17:51] Steno:So if I decided that to ascend to MP5 I had to have an ornate ceremony with people attending, that would become my reality?
[04/05/20 17:51] Ungod:in fantasy
[04/05/20 17:52] Chewett:Now, the game itself cannot do that by itself. You need "someone" to press the buttons
[04/05/20 17:52] MaGoHi:i thought the X was a kiss
[04/05/20 17:52] MaGoHi:xD
[04/05/20 17:52] Steno:And I couldn\'t ascend until people showed up to said ornate ceremony?
[04/05/20 17:52] Ungod:wait, hold on, now it starts to make sense why it\'s a requirement...this number is the requirement for you to be able to fabric the reality
[04/05/20 17:54] Ungod:so let\'s see...the game also has stuff where there\'s no requirement for things to be accepted, such as spells or items
[04/05/20 17:55] Steno:Because the spell and item is already accepted by the game, otherwise the spell wouldn\'t be part of the game
[04/05/20 17:55] Ungod:darn it! we only had 5 members as Baconeers!
[04/05/20 17:55] Aia:It were easier for one\'s reality to be made so if it were not too different from that which all do believe,
[04/05/20 17:56] Aia:A spell cast may, in example, be tangibly an opening of a portal.
[04/05/20 17:57] Ungod:the really weird thing is that the game here is to \'create reality\', which is strange. Then again, i never played MD back then
[04/05/20 17:58] Aia:It seems that the more power a being purports to possess, the harder it were to make it real for all else.
[04/05/20 17:58] Ungod:aha, so...MD was rather void and it needed to be filled, so that\'s just a guideline for the process
[04/05/20 17:59] Ungod:unless you have the tools and admin powers , Aia :))
[04/05/20 17:59] Steno:The more gradual the change, the more believable it is
[04/05/20 17:59] Ungod:that\'s right, which is why people are always pissed off when Mur changes stuf
[04/05/20 18:00] Chewett:Could be ;)
[04/05/20 18:00] Ungod:disband lhos...hold on, it\'s not believable. I just did it, so it is ????
[04/05/20 18:00] Aia:Indeed; but consider also that the tools are also a method to grant one what she already doth possess.
[04/05/20 18:00] Chewett:I will log this and put it on the forum
[04/05/20 18:00] Chewett:Its an interesting discussion
[04/05/20 18:00] Ungod:coool
[04/05/20 18:00] Ungod: (cool*)
[04/05/20 18:00] Aelis:It is!
[04/05/20 18:00] Chewett:But certainly, for "big things" then you need people to be doing some "real" things
[04/05/20 18:00] Steno:It sums up one of the core aspects of the entire experience, at least in my mind
[04/05/20 18:01] Chewett:When we did the SoE thing, many years ago, we got people releasing heat
[04/05/20 18:01] Aelis:Reminds me of those posts you posted in the MDA site a while ago, Chew.
[04/05/20 18:01] Aelis:Should it go there too?
[04/05/20 18:01] Chewett:It was a purely mechanical "thing" but as we had so many people we had to make it real
[04/05/20 18:01] Steno:So instead of Aia changing who she was alone, she incorporated lashtal\'s help and made a ritual?
[04/05/20 18:01] Aia:I do not believe that Mur hath granted thyself, or myself, these tools because we had not already shaped the realm.
[04/05/20 18:01] Steno: (Aia, that sounds so very Murr-ish of you )
[04/05/20 18:02] Aia:A realm-shaper would shape the realm without them, surely, and does so with them.
[04/05/20 18:03] Aia: (I have some examples, but it seems like it would be bragging to mention them)
[04/05/20 18:03] Ungod:how about now? we obviously have other kind of limits so the requirement is not that important, but
[04/05/20 18:04] Ungod:take the GWI, for example
[04/05/20 18:04] Ungod:new people had to fabric the reality of escaping there, and it was basically a thing between them and the guardian
[04/05/20 18:04] Ungod:they had tools at their disposal, so I guess that works, eliminating the need for many people...perhaps?
[04/05/20 18:05] :appiek plunders ☻2 heads by attacking Steno
[04/05/20 18:05] Ungod:the GWI was a place where roleplay was just like \'the old times\', no?
[04/05/20 18:05] Aia: *nods* MaGoHi did mention the possibility of creating jet-packs to escape the Island.
[04/05/20 18:06] Aia:This was his example where one\'s reality were not accepted.
[04/05/20 18:08] Ungod:ok, so...that kind of roleplay is still possible, but is overshadowed by the content A25 tools will be bringing
[04/05/20 18:08] Aia:Chewett, I wonder if aught did approach thee for new roles this Anniversary.
[04/05/20 18:08] Ungod:not to mention other improvements, or the items branch in shop
[04/05/20 18:08] Chewett:No one has come to me about new roles but I think that is important
[04/05/20 18:08] Steno:See I thought roles were not asked for, they were given by the community by your actions making your role apparent?
[04/05/20 18:09] Steno:So as to make your place "undeniable" as it were
[04/05/20 18:09] Chewett:I have a few pending as part of my Grand Dukedom of the east.
[04/05/20 18:10] Aia: *nods* Many must yearn to be a loyal subject of thine.
[04/05/20 18:10] Chewett:But the majority of them are people that are already doing things
[04/05/20 18:10] Chewett:Or my suggestion that they should have such a tag if they do a few more things
[04/05/20 18:11] Ungod:that means you no longer can \'create reality\' the way yo could, numbers being less relevant and so the rp requirement will become more and more of an artifact of th past
[04/05/20 18:12] Ungod:ok, that gave me an idea or two
[04/05/20 18:12] Aia:I would applaud the return of more custom titles, if naught else.
[04/05/20 18:14] Aia:Titles and attempting to create roles within them did increase of the interplay of beings.
[04/05/20 18:14] :Miq makes his tag more appaling
[04/05/20 18:14] Miq:So you all know how you get to be a king *grins*
[04/05/20 18:14] :Steno laughs
[04/05/20 18:15] :Steno plunders ☻2 heads by attacking appiek
[04/05/20 18:15] :appiek clubbered Steno and took all ☻121 heads.
[04/05/20 18:15] Chewett:Iv told them my secret Miq
[04/05/20 18:16] Miq:which one?
[04/05/20 18:16] Chewett:Im heading back to work, but I will acoustic this in an hour or so
[04/05/20 18:16] Miq:nr six?
[04/05/20 18:16] Chewett:Ask King Miq to make you a King, then he does it
[04/05/20 18:16] Chewett:Thats my secret :P
[04/05/20 18:16] Miq:ah nr 4
[04/05/20 18:18] Aia:I wonder, in example, if one attempted to become the adopted Prince of Marind\'s Bell; if the King should abdicate, this would leave one well-placed to inherit the throne.
[04/05/20 18:18] Ungod:there was an ann about kingship being passed down
[04/05/20 18:19] Aia:I yet only recall of one incident of its like.
[04/05/20 18:19] Aia:And this did pertain to the Khalazdad dynasty.
[04/05/20 18:21] Miq:most kings don\'t bother with dealing owns mortality
[04/05/20 18:22] Aia:Indeed, but most will consider of their legacy.
[04/05/20 18:23] Ungod: (correct me if i\'m wrong: the old MD meant you had little, so you had to think really hard about what is real and how to create reality; therefore)
[04/05/20 18:24] Ungod: (the more content the game has, the less freedom you0ll have and you won\'t be thikìnking hard about what is real)
[04/05/20 18:24] Steno:Old MD was scenes, plus creatures, plus story, plus weapons, a few "spells".
[04/05/20 18:24] Chewett:Old Md means a lot of different things to a lot of different people
[04/05/20 18:24] Chewett:Just FYI
[04/05/20 18:25] Ungod:i\'m just trying to focus on this one aspect - roleplay
[04/05/20 18:25] Aia: (Alternatively, more content means more framework for dedicated roles)
[04/05/20 18:25] Ungod:bascially, the more content MD will have, the less people have to think about \'what is really real\', so to speak
[04/05/20 18:25] Chewett:Yep thats true Ungod
[04/05/20 18:26] Chewett:Thats why all the previous East "false kings" failed
[04/05/20 18:26] Chewett:They focussed too much on trying to get the crown in some way, rather than doing it the "old way" like I did
[04/05/20 18:26] Chewett:Its why some of the "new" players are surprised it just happened, wheras the old hands like Steno are like "Well Dur, thats obvious thats how you do it"
[04/05/20 18:27] Chewett:Its why also some of the old "false kings" in the east have been surprised it was "easy"
[04/05/20 18:27] Chewett:Well it wasnt easy because it took a lot of time and effort organising
[04/05/20 18:27] Chewett:It looks easy, becasue thats the end goal, once you "make it real" it is real, so its easy
[04/05/20 18:27] Chewett:The making it real takes the real effort
[04/05/20 18:27] Chewett:Took a lot to get some of the lands there, Even Mag over there was present!
[04/05/20 18:29] Ungod:so how do we force people to fabric and still add content? because yes, it means more framework for dedicated roles, but it could also mean point and click
[04/05/20 18:29] Ungod:fabric reality*
[04/05/20 18:29] Ungod:i\'m a woodcutter! i cut wood. point and click, rinse and repeat
[04/05/20 18:30] Aia: (because the roles have to agree with the accepted framework of "reality")
[04/05/20 18:30] Ungod: (yeah, you collect wood until you reach the skill needed for the tag)
[04/05/20 18:31] Ungod: (it\'s a lengthy process, you also need to join LR etc, but it\'s fairly clear)
[04/05/20 18:31] Ungod: (direct road to it, which takes away the \'is this real\'?)
[04/05/20 18:32] Steno:Indeed. But what isn\'t clear is what you do with that tag. Also, the RP is in how you get to 40. Did you buy a bunch of magical potions to give +3 repeatedly, or did you sweat and bleed every day?
[04/05/20 18:32] Ungod:yea, and it\'s too simple
[04/05/20 18:32] Aia: (It is a very clear way though; Nadrolski is a good example of a resource based role)
[04/05/20 18:32] Ungod:there are no 20 people who have to accept it, so you ahve to think about how to present it ina real fashion
[04/05/20 18:32] Aelis:In the end a tag means little if the person doesn\'t play that role
[04/05/20 18:33] Aelis:To me, at least.
[04/05/20 18:33] Ungod:you just do it, you know how
[04/05/20 18:33] Steno:Yes, like if I asked Ledah to get me wood, would he?
[04/05/20 18:33] Ungod:as for the tag, we can add content
[04/05/20 18:33] Aia: (It is hard to deny that you have cut 100000 trees if your stat suggests it)
[04/05/20 18:33] Ungod: (yeah, but the rp effort incolved is nill. you just pointed and clicked)
[04/05/20 18:33] Aia: (This suggests that you did actions consistent with the role already)
[04/05/20 18:34] Ungod: (yes, but its totally different from how things used to be, no?)
[04/05/20 18:34] Steno:No, you gave up time. Your PRESENCE in the game was devoted, at least in part, to woodcutting, you earned it
[04/05/20 18:34] Ungod:yes, but it\'s a different kind of effort
[04/05/20 18:34] Ungod:it\'s like grinders
[04/05/20 18:34] Ungod:combat grinders
[04/05/20 18:34] Steno:Whereas you could have sat in MDP using astericks saying you were "cutting wood" if you did that every day, wouldn\'t eventually your role be a woodcarver?
[04/05/20 18:34] Aelis:To some people that effort matters more than anything else in this realm
[04/05/20 18:35] Aelis:Yeah, just like grinders :P
[04/05/20 18:35] Ungod:yea, but for that kind of effort creatures were invented, not the rp reality requirement
[04/05/20 18:35] Aia: (Combat roles would be a thing if there was a method to measure it... like attack stat)
[04/05/20 18:35] Aelis:There should be room for everybody. I see the resources thing as a niche for those kind of players.
[04/05/20 18:35] Steno: (I will admit, having so many creatures makes it harder and harder to say they are \'part of my mindset\')
[04/05/20 18:35] Aia: (why aren\'t they a thing again?)
[04/05/20 18:35] Chewett:Look at Nad and his water gathering
[04/05/20 18:35] Ungod:what i\'m trying to say, is RP is vastly different and the allure of the MD I never played was characters born out of \'how do i make myself recognized when i have nothning?\'
[04/05/20 18:36] Chewett:Efforts in the game, meant that he became the defactor water gatherer
[04/05/20 18:36] Aia: (nad is the prime example of resource-role)
[04/05/20 18:36] Steno:You can choose to RP through game mechanics alone, or you can use astericks to build the reality by shaping how people view you
[04/05/20 18:36] Chewett:I disagree
[04/05/20 18:36] Chewett:Nad does both
[04/05/20 18:37] Aelis:Yeah, there are multiple paths
[04/05/20 18:37] Aia: (I don\'t mean he doesn\'t do it in other ways too)
[04/05/20 18:37] Steno:Hmmm... I see what you meant, I don\'t mean that the options are mutually exclusive chew. I just mean the universal solvent is what other players "see" hence the RP requirement
[04/05/20 18:37] Chewett:Its a spectrum
[04/05/20 18:38] Steno:Indeed
[04/05/20 18:39] Steno:Like when I think of resources, weren\'t there people with high woodcutting who ultimately recieved roles of being able to "construct" new items?
[04/05/20 18:39] Ungod:dod that thing happen?
[04/05/20 18:39] Steno: (though they went inactive and didn\'t really utilize their roles a lot, according to the forums)
[04/05/20 18:39] Ungod:did*
[04/05/20 18:39] Aelis:Who got that role?
[04/05/20 18:39] Ungod:ooh, like back then, with Udgard and others
[04/05/20 18:39] Aelis:I might have missed it
[04/05/20 18:39] Aelis:Oh those were pre-resources
[04/05/20 18:40] Aia: (the crafters?)
[04/05/20 18:40] Chewett:It is part of what I am planning to arrange Ungod
[04/05/20 18:40] Chewett:The kings, IMO, should have been pushing things forward
[04/05/20 18:40] Chewett:They have not
[04/05/20 18:40] Steno:Oh, my bad. My time-frame is off (reading all of the forums without timeframe makes it hard to shuffle in brain)
[04/05/20 18:40] Chewett:I will be ;)
[04/05/20 18:40] Chewett:Aelis is the fist guini pig
[04/05/20 18:40] Chewett:Dont tell him
[04/05/20 18:40] Chewett:Its a secret
[04/05/20 18:40] Ungod:ok
[04/05/20 18:40] Aelis:!
[04/05/20 18:41] Ungod:i won\'te tell Aelis no matter what
[04/05/20 18:41] :Chewett shushes them all
[04/05/20 18:41] :Aia looks at Miq\'s implied non-progression
[04/05/20 18:41] :Chewett especially Aelis
[04/05/20 18:41] :Ungod takes the bribery money
[04/05/20 18:41] :Aelis looks the other way
[04/05/20 18:41] :Steno distracts Miq
[04/05/20 18:41] :Chewett passed Silver coin to Ungod
[04/05/20 18:41] :Chewett shushes
[04/05/20 18:42] :Ungod nods and hides it in his sleeve
[04/05/20 18:42] Steno:Aia, I could see your desire to have kings drive research into creature descriptions fitting in this.
[04/05/20 18:43] Aia:Would one require... an enchantress to enchant of magical items?
[04/05/20 18:43] Chewett:Aelis already knows my plans
[04/05/20 18:43] Chewett:So it should not be shocking
[04/05/20 18:43] Chewett:I see a lot of good people ready to start new exciting roles
[04/05/20 18:43] Chewett:They just need to be reminded what those roles are
[04/05/20 18:43] Chewett:and IMO kings should be pushing people forard
[04/05/20 18:43] Chewett:And when I use the word Kings
[04/05/20 18:44] Chewett:I obviously also refer to our fair Monarch Lintara too
[04/05/20 18:44] Chewett:I merely an a lazy slob of a King
[04/05/20 18:44] :Aia hides the Enchantress\'s Grimoire in her inventory
[04/05/20 18:44] Chewett:And use a singular gender
[04/05/20 18:44] Aelis:That\'s a really nice initiative, Chew.
[04/05/20 18:44] Aelis:Now that the birthday is over I\'m ready to resume my work. *smiles*
[04/05/20 18:44] Chewett:Certainly, in MaBeast, we want to find out what people are wanting to do, and push them forward
[04/05/20 18:45] Chewett:So join MaBeast!
[04/05/20 18:45] Chewett:<end advertising>
[04/05/20 18:45] Ungod:I\'d like a conclusion for this,: is the RP requirement an obsolete link useful for when we\'ll have 60 people plying wildly, OR
[04/05/20 18:45] Chewett:Being serious, yeah I think thats part of the Monarchs role
[04/05/20 18:45] Ungod:can/should it be improved ins ome way?
[04/05/20 18:45] Chewett:I think it is an idea that may have been needed once, but probably not now
[04/05/20 18:45] Aia:Chewett, may I digress? Steno, I believe, were in fact of Lorerootian heritage.
[04/05/20 18:46] Ungod:so I can forget about it
[04/05/20 18:46] Chewett:Ungod, I think its a reminder for people who maybe dont know how the "RP" in MD works
[04/05/20 18:46] Chewett:I strongly grasp it, so its useless for me
[04/05/20 18:46] Chewett:Go ahead Aia
[04/05/20 18:47] Steno:Agreed. It explains how the game works in many ways, also encouraging them to "play" with others
[04/05/20 18:47] Aia:I should like to return to the topic at hand, but if one reads of the note I did place in his personal log, one may consider that he may indeed be a dual-citizen.
[04/05/20 18:47] Ungod:it desont explain anything, in fact it\'s confusing, because the reality that created it has disappeared
[04/05/20 18:48] Aia:I do bring this up as a matter of example rather than of conflict...
[04/05/20 18:48] Ungod:well, Juba was also Lorerootian
[04/05/20 18:48] Steno: (My logs! I wish I somehow got a notification when my logs were edited)
[04/05/20 18:49] Aia:but surely the King of Marind\'s Bell and the Queen of Loreroot would consider grounds for a custody battle.
[04/05/20 18:49] Steno:Lintara and I met and held a little ceremony where she pardoned me for my abadonment.
[04/05/20 18:49] Ungod:but I wdouln\'t like to think of MB as a desolate land where some lorerrootians settled
[04/05/20 18:49] Chewett:The Queen of Loreroot already does not favour me Aia, I fear this will cause more issues!
[04/05/20 18:49] Steno:She failed to mention whether or not I was actually a planted spy in Ma\'Beast however.
[04/05/20 18:49] Aia:Ah, do forgive me for digression, then; it is resolved.
[04/05/20 18:49] MaGoHi:WAR
[04/05/20 18:49] MaGoHi:WAR
[04/05/20 18:49] MaGoHi:WAR
[04/05/20 18:49] Steno:WAR?
[04/05/20 18:49] Lazarus:Besides the "King of" and "Queen of", is "Demon of" also considered land leaders/monarchs?
[04/05/20 18:50] Ungod:Mago got bored of WORDS
[04/05/20 18:50] Steno:GAteway Island hereby declares war?
[04/05/20 18:50] Aelis: (lunch time, brb)
[04/05/20 18:50] MaGoHi:make war not love
[04/05/20 18:50] Chewett:On what grounds Laz? Murdering them or?
[04/05/20 18:50] Steno: (yes, check announcements, Mur said so)
[04/05/20 18:50] Ungod:makes sense
[04/05/20 18:50] MaGoHi:or however that sentence goes
[04/05/20 18:50] Chewett:In terms of considering them monarches, Demon is one of them yes
[04/05/20 18:50] Lazarus:I wanted to know the titles of land leaders
[04/05/20 18:50] Lazarus:I see
[04/05/20 18:51] Chewett:King Queen, Demon I believe. Check dst\'s as well for whatever her\'s is
[04/05/20 18:51] Steno: [Ann. 3906]
[04/05/20 18:51] MaGoHi:grumpy cat of underground

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