february Posted August 27, 2010 Report Posted August 27, 2010 Nad is not Feb i think.. he's just the spoke person, Blame me.! Amoran Kalamanira Kol, Yrthilian, Shemhazaj and 5 others 8
Curiose Posted August 27, 2010 Report Posted August 27, 2010 (edited) We gave you the negative rep also because you were being an idiot about going about your posting. Insulting us? Cursing at us? Acting like a child; throwing a tantrum just because he wants to be a grown up but doesn't have the words to be one? How do you honestly expect us to respect you, let alone Nadrolski and February? You forget we're not just targeting one person. If you want to complain,complain about both of them being attacked, instead of the little mp3 who obviously knows what he's doing and is a big boy and can defend himself. If we're so ignorant, then why does everyone say the same thing, basically? If we're so lacking in what is going on, how do you FAIL to see what is wrong with this picture? You sir, you are the ignorant one. You fail to see what is wrong and you utterly fail to understand MD and its community. February is doing NOTHING to aid MD; only himself. Mp3s? How can you even expect for them to win against a fight with February in the first place? Motivating? It's demoralising. None of the mp3s [that I know of, unless they're an alt of some sort, or incredibly aged], will even have the creatures, NOR the ability to create a ritual worthy to fight him. How about you join an alliance and get attacked by the oh so weak February and tell us how you like it. Edited August 27, 2010 by Curiose Prince Marvolo, Kyphis the Bard and Amoran Kalamanira Kol 3
awiiya Posted August 27, 2010 Report Posted August 27, 2010 I agree with Tarquinus, that in my days of playing as a new player and as an mp5, whenever I was attacked by or attacking another player that beat me in round 0 I ceased to want to play the game of fighting. It stops being fun if I cannot reach a goal with a reasonable amount of work. That might be a flaw, or it might just be reasonable. Some people, when faced with an identical situation, go the opposite direction. The fact that it is hard makes them want to participate all the more, and they are willing to put in vast amounts of effort and time to achieve this difficult and lofty goal. In this way, the current fighting system is, and I agree with freelancer here, creating a new type of magic duel, one in which there is a distinct class difference: those who have the time and energy to build up resources and those that do not. I. do. not. This new magic duel is not in accordance with the old adage I've seen repeated and repeated myself a multitude of times: "Magic Duel's fighting system is based on the principle that a new player can beat an old player with either luck or tactical ability." Nad and february aren't young. They are old players with the number 3 rather than 5, and a whole lot of grinding under their belt. Which magic duel is better? Obviously, I prefer the one in which I have a chance to defeat all people without putting in extensive hours training. I'm one person. I remain unimpressed by the achievements listed above, though I have gained a good deal of perception into precisely how much time some people are willing to give in order to feel accomplished. Maybe I'll say thank you. Frankly, I'm more inclined to yawn. Awi Kyphis the Bard, Amoran Kalamanira Kol, Udgard and 3 others 6
CrazyMike Posted August 27, 2010 Report Posted August 27, 2010 Just to be clear, I dont mind losing to a MP3. Its a game where sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. What is annoying is the spirit behind the whole post. Motivating for mp3? More like showing noobs how to beat veterans, without having to learn how. Educational for mp3? Noobs learn how to grind and stick it out in MP3 is educational? True that Feb has done nothing wrong, but the spirit behind the posting is annoying. I wonder how would Nad and Feb feel if the veterans retaliate with more than words. Not sure what veterans can do? Keep bragging and you will find out.
dst Posted August 27, 2010 Report Posted August 27, 2010 After writing a loong post full of explanations and stuff I decided that receiving an answer is a privilege and you, freelancer, don't have that privilege. But since I am nice today I will give you a piece of advice: don't jump to conclusions without having all the facts. It will hurt you in the long run (even in the short one as you can see). ---- Maybe it's time for Mur to do some forced moving ups. I just checked feb's stats: more then 4M crits xp. A bit more and he should be taken to mp5. Oh and just for fun...he has around 300k ve. I know tons on mp5s that have less Kyphis the Bard, Watcher and Prince Marvolo 2 1
Totenkopf Posted August 27, 2010 Report Posted August 27, 2010 (edited) [quote name='dst' timestamp='1282891765' post='67123'] Oh and just for fun...he has around 300k ve. I know tons on mp5s that have less [/quote] I have 45k VE now and i had about 30k when i came to mp5 Edited August 27, 2010 by Totenkopf
Firsanthalas Posted August 27, 2010 Report Posted August 27, 2010 (edited) Initially I wasn't going to post, but then I decided that I should. First up. Nobody likes a bragger. We all like to get one over on our foes from time to time, but this is going way overboard. Secondly, I don't agree with the argument that the vets are just angry because an MP3 beat them. Losses are part of fighting and when the fighting system was more balanced it was not unheard of for a player to be beaten by a lower level. For starters there is an amazingly simple little rit that can score a person a surprise victory (although it has become less likely to work in more recent times, but sometimes it still can). I have seen February sitting at the park with that ridiculous rit as his defence rit. I have a serious issue with that for one simple reason, he is MP3. It is clear that the account was created purely to take scalps. It is a pretty ridiculous account to be fair. It was purely engineered to create such a rit and nothing else. The fact that he can defeat some of the most powerful fighters in the game with it pretty much cries out for him to be booted up a few MP levels. Why?, because it is way beyond the realm of other MP3s and if we start to see more of this nonsense it will have a negative effect on MD. I'm sorry, but I don't see the sense in people creating new MP3 accounts with the sole purpose of trying to somehow create ubber hard killing machine accounts. It think that ruins the game to be honest and takes a large dump on the people that are actually playing for the first time and are struggling to find their feet. Given the amount of age, wins and xp it is completely nuts to think that an MP3 has maxed angiens. Granted it is obviously possible for an MP3 to have them, but to be honest I think they shouldn't. For me at least, part of MD is about progression. MP3 is really more of a learning phase about the game. The levels required to advance are low and I believe deliberately so. If you have mastered what you need, then you should advance. Hanging around with the 10 yr olds at school when you are 18 so that you can say you are so much better than the 18 yr olds coz you can beat them up and you are only in the 10 yr old class......well it seems stupid to me. One other thing. There is no skill involved here at all. Given some help and time anyone else could do something similar. The rit itself also has a high element of luck involved in its effectiveness. If it freezes the right creatures the opponent has etc. And as has already been stated, it gets beaten, it isn't like Feb is so all powerful that he defeats the MP5s every single time. If this was about proving a point of some sort then fine. But I think the point is proven, so either move on or just drop it. It is getting old now. (Note to mods, I tried to avoid spoilers although my comments towards the end may be spoilerish. Sorry, but I couldn't think of a way to make the point otherwise.) Edited August 27, 2010 by Firsanthalas dst, Yrthilian and lightsage 2 1
february Posted August 27, 2010 Report Posted August 27, 2010 [quote name='freelancer' timestamp='1282875781' post='67106'] The reason I made my post is to try to make you people see the whole thing differently, but I see some of you still insisting on looking everything from your own perspective. If only you would allow yourself to see if from a different view point. Is it gloating? Or is it motivating? How often do you see mp3 defeat mp5 vets? Even with burst.. you don’t think its something? The amount of work needed to be able to do that is unspeakable. Feb made the seemingly impossible possible, and all of you decide to regard it negatively. Why do you have such a huge problem with it? Ok, grinding is discouraging. I myself don’t like it either, but it is possible. The game made it possible. If you really don’t like it, then you shouldn’t be mad at Feb, you should be mad at the game. I do not have the time to address every1 individually, but the above is the reason I made the post. And the fact that I disagree with you all is the real reason you gave me neg rep. Same reason you wont look at the whole thing differently. Try to be more open minded. edit: fixed some spelling problem [/quote] A little info for everyone.. Feb is not a stat grinder.. [img]http://magicduel.com/img/interface/stats/mini-char_regeneration.gif[/img] Regeneration: [b]49[/b] [left]([color="#000000"]9[/color] + [color="#00ccff"]0.18[/color] + [color="#3355ff"]40[/color])[/left] [img]http://magicduel.com/img/interface/stats/mini-char_energeticimmun.gif[/img] Energetic immunity: [b]94[/b] [left]([color="#000000"]14.71[/color] + [color="#3355ff"]80[/color])[/left] [img]http://magicduel.com/img/interface/stats/mini-char_tradesense.gif[/img] Trade sense: [b]10[/b] [left]([color="#000000"]10.09[/color])[/left] [img]http://magicduel.com/img/interface/stats/mini-char_briskness.gif[/img] Briskness: [b]14[/b] [left]([color="#000000"]10.69[/color] + [color="#00ccff"]0.53[/color] + [color="#99cc00"]3[/color])[/left] [img]http://magicduel.com/img/interface/stats/mini-char_initiative.gif[/img] Initiative: [b]9[/b] [left]([color="#000000"]-0.5[/color] + [color="#3355ff"]10[/color])[/left] [img]http://magicduel.com/img/interface/stats/mini-char_defence.gif[/img] Defence: [b]27[/b] [left]([color="#000000"]8.18[/color] + [color="#00ccff"]0.9[/color] + [color="#99cc00"]18[/color])[/left] [img]http://magicduel.com/img/interface/stats/mini-char_attack.gif[/img] Attack: [b]50[/b] [left]([color="#000000"]24.02[/color] + [color="#00ccff"]2.4[/color] + [color="#99cc00"]24[/color])[/left] [img]http://magicduel.com/img/interface/stats/mini-char_power.gif[/img] Power: [b]3[/b] [left]([color="#000000"]3.45[/color])[/left] [img]http://magicduel.com/img/interface/stats/mini-char_luck.gif[/img] Luck: [b]21[/b] [left]([color="#000000"]1.64[/color] + [color="#3355ff"]20[/color])[/left] Eon, No one, Chewett and 3 others 6
Root Admin Chewett Posted August 27, 2010 Root Admin Report Posted August 27, 2010 [quote name='ansouinc' timestamp='1282914065' post='67137'] A little info for everyone.. Feb is not a stat grinder.. [img]http://magicduel.com/img/interface/stats/mini-char_regeneration.gif[/img] Regeneration: [b]49[/b] [left]([color="#000000"]9[/color] + [color="#00ccff"]0.18[/color] + [color="#3355ff"]40[/color])[/left] [img]http://magicduel.com/img/interface/stats/mini-char_energeticimmun.gif[/img] Energetic immunity: [b]94[/b] [left]([color="#000000"]14.71[/color] + [color="#3355ff"]80[/color])[/left] [img]http://magicduel.com/img/interface/stats/mini-char_tradesense.gif[/img] Trade sense: [b]10[/b] [left]([color="#000000"]10.09[/color])[/left] [img]http://magicduel.com/img/interface/stats/mini-char_briskness.gif[/img] Briskness: [b]14[/b] [left]([color="#000000"]10.69[/color] + [color="#00ccff"]0.53[/color] + [color="#99cc00"]3[/color])[/left] [img]http://magicduel.com/img/interface/stats/mini-char_initiative.gif[/img] Initiative: [b]9[/b] [left]([color="#000000"]-0.5[/color] + [color="#3355ff"]10[/color])[/left] [img]http://magicduel.com/img/interface/stats/mini-char_defence.gif[/img] Defence: [b]27[/b] [left]([color="#000000"]8.18[/color] + [color="#00ccff"]0.9[/color] + [color="#99cc00"]18[/color])[/left] [img]http://magicduel.com/img/interface/stats/mini-char_attack.gif[/img] Attack: [b]50[/b] [left]([color="#000000"]24.02[/color] + [color="#00ccff"]2.4[/color] + [color="#99cc00"]24[/color])[/left] [img]http://magicduel.com/img/interface/stats/mini-char_power.gif[/img] Power: [b]3[/b] [left]([color="#000000"]3.45[/color])[/left] [img]http://magicduel.com/img/interface/stats/mini-char_luck.gif[/img] Luck: [b]21[/b] [left]([color="#000000"]1.64[/color] + [color="#3355ff"]20[/color])[/left] [/quote] Purposely being stupid? Do you realise how many wins angiens need? tell me he isnt a GRINDER. and have you seen his Ve? Last time i checked Ve was a stat. dst, Curiose and No one 3
february Posted August 27, 2010 Report Posted August 27, 2010 [quote name='Chewett' timestamp='1282914177' post='67138'] Purposely being stupid? Do you realise how many wins angiens need? tell me he isnt a GRINDER. and have you seen his Ve? Last time i checked Ve was a stat. [/quote] getting the required wins for your creature to lvl up is grinding? ows.. then every one is a grinder, Neno Veliki, Watcher, No one and 7 others 3 7
Root Admin Chewett Posted August 27, 2010 Root Admin Report Posted August 27, 2010 And please do ignore his rather large ve. I will repeat. he is a grinder dst 1
phantasm Posted August 27, 2010 Report Posted August 27, 2010 when its several thousand wins and more xp then an MP4 can get before maxing out....yes its grinding
february Posted August 27, 2010 Report Posted August 27, 2010 [quote name='phantasm' timestamp='1282914936' post='67144'] when its several thousand wins and more xp then an MP4 can get before maxing out....yes its grinding [/quote] ahhh... ok ok.. "more xp then an MP4 can get before maxing out" means less than the cap of mp4? but i think it's fine since it's not a bug.. and that's why i love MD.. it brings out the creativity in you.. how to surpass the limits despite the restrictions like max xp cap.. MD really consist of diffent cultures it's really like a realy world.. where different people with different cultures, perspective and more meets.. well that's why it's a role playing game coz.. you just be you and be creative in the game. this game is so broad.. just a tip for others.. just because people have their own way of playing the game or culture in the game and not playing the same way you are.. please don't judge them as if your way of playing is the only right way in MD>... play your way and they will play theirs.. then it's more colorful and not just black and white.. nothing bad in adding more colors to MD.. just don't add BUGS.. don't lost your smile.. Watcher, Curiose, No one and 8 others 2 9
Firsanthalas Posted August 27, 2010 Report Posted August 27, 2010 You are missing the point. He did it, its done. Its time to move on now, not stay there trying to prove some already proved (and probably pointless to begin with) point.
zeTsu grass Posted August 27, 2010 Report Posted August 27, 2010 wow.. dst, Leixer, Eon and 2 others 2 3
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