Yrthilian

Just my little thought on this I dont remember clearly but i though i heard that the angiens have a dual personality it was something i had heard a long time ago and to be honest i have not really looking into the angiens or the shades that much really. The idea is a good start i hope you find some answers to what you seek. No at this point i do not think mentioning the angens statue at the gate a spoiler. it is more of a pointing out of something and start a descussion like this. I would how ever be intrested in hearing your ideas on the subject.

I stated it as such because at some point i had to tell. As per the past events people have taken things i have done to heart and even now they still come back to haunt me many thing i fully admint to having done that in hindsite i regret doing. So i felt that i should at least let people know what i was really up to this time. This is my reasion for telling of this test.

[quote name='Chewett' date='26 June 2010 - 04:18 PM' timestamp='1277565523' post='62709'] So where does the commision and raw materials go once you have attained them? i know that the crafters dispose of them correctly and fund quests with any profits, But what about yourself? [/quote] Well i certanly wont be keeping the materials and IF there is any costs incured for an item beeing created well thoes fund may be used to aid another as i really have no used for Gold or silver. I have plenty of my own. Materials will find there way back out into the realm so as to be used again and again

[quote name='Darigan' date='26 June 2010 - 09:44 AM' timestamp='1277541888' post='62694'] So basically Yrth did what Mur does? He tried to test a social experiment with the players of the game to see the results and was hoping for one specific result which he got...once...but he was not unprepared for the other responses that he was likely(and did) get to his test/experiment. Whether or not this was something he was actually going to implement or not is irrelevant. His main objective was to run a blind experiment on us and try to find a response to a problem he has. [/quote] Darigan basicaly you hit the nail on the head. I also know why dst does not believe me and as i said i expected that and some of what is yet to come. This is to be expected when one runs an experemint like this and keeps people out of the loop. At this point it does not matter to me if i am believed or not. All i can say is i already know the Mur would not have approved of the idea and it was something i already knew would not happen ever. Also i will now add to this so that all are assured. No player will be allowed to train off the like in a GGG style format. When or IF the libs train it will be them that comes and trains each one by them selfs. This is the ONLY solution for the libs regards there training and has always been the solution.

Well as a Technomage I can creat many diffrent type of items but yes i am better at smaller items for example mechanical component pecices. It really depend on the type of item you wish to get a hold of. I do try to add my own little twist to what gets created. But i get your point. What can i really make and make with good high quality. Well that depends on the quality of the material given. Weapons are not my speciality to be honest a good staff or a small dagger i can do. Rings, amulets i can make but only with good materials.

I didnt say i can offer anything diffrent to them. I was more saying i can offer the same as the crafters This was a goal i set myself about oh 3 years ago to have this ablity and offer it to the public. (I notice i got a neg rep for this too strange that to be honest) The option is there if people are looking to get items created all this really does is give 2 sorces for item creation. this is after all what i had been workign towards since i created my character

[quote name='Chewett' date='26 June 2010 - 08:47 AM' timestamp='1277538478' post='62688'] Whether it was a test or you just backtracking, You have lost a lot of respect in my eyes. [/quote] Thats ok this is to be expected and i never though i had respect from you anyways

This is to anounce that as a technomage i have managed to create items and would now wish to offer my service to the public. [b]NOTE: i am in no way replacing the crafters. That is there main role.[/b] I am offering to create some small items for people but there are many rules to what can be created. Also note just like the crafters it take 1 x WP to create an item. yes it will involve the use of materials. I will also post whom i am currently creating an item for and depending on the itme on the time it teakes to make. that will be decided at the time of creation. Also to create an item may also cost you a fee. also to be agreed to at time of creation. Regards Yrthilian Technomage.

[quote name='dst' date='26 June 2010 - 08:27 AM' timestamp='1277537231' post='62686'] Yrth....I don't believe you . Sorry but I don't. And maybe it's time to make visible the post I made on the first page but I kept it hidden for certain reasons. I know too much to actually believe you [/quote] That is fine you dont have to believe me make what you want visiable. I already knew this would happen Just as i know how mur is agenst the LIB army beeing used in this fashion that i got when i was over there. You think i would go agenst Mur and create something like this?

Ok time to reveal the motive behind all this To explain. I wanted to know if i was right in my observations of people in game. To see if my ability to read people in RL could work just as well in on online environment. Since I don’t see most of you in person I was wondering if the skill could be applied to an online environment. I needed this to be a true response from players and they is why only a few (and I mean only 2) knew of this Experiment. I need people to react just as they would normally so to those I have offended I apologise. But when doing an experiment of this kind one need to be sure the data is as pure as it can be. I will admit that I was surprised by a few and well was not surprised by many. I will admit the surprises I came across were interesting and I wanted to see if people could make suggestions rather than attack the idea. Some liked what was being done but would not admit it in the topic more so out of fear of the rest attacking them. There was only a few willing to make suggestions and not completely tear down the idea. I needed this topic to be something that was frowned upon but most a sort of Hot/sore topic Hence when the GGG came under fire I seen my chance to get the experiment running. I will admit I was hoping for a bit more on argument for and agenst. But I decided 1 week was to be the length of the experiment and well the arguments stopped fairly quickly. I put this line in and yes left it cryptic on purpose. [u][I]This is a test for the first run of the Golemus Training Grounds more rules may be added as time goes on.[/I][/u] The main this was that this was said the idea was a test. But the idea never was put into place. It never was going to be put into place. I made the topic because 1. I wanted to test one of my own skills 2. I had no idea how I was going to try and train up the libs and was hoping to see some good suggestions mixed in with the arguments There was one player I have to point out that did something I was hope the older one could have tried to do and that was making some nice well constructed suggestions and this is a player I have not seen in MD myself. I have to say some could learn from this player. I suggest you loke at his response the name of the player is Mourn the Leper and I thanks you for your nice response to the whole post. Now this was an experiment and I expect to get the whole you are only saying it is to cover your tracks of not running the lib GTG or you are only saying this because you realised it was a bad idea. Well if that is what you think then fine that is to be expected. When one runs such an experiment one has to expect the backlash from the end results both on and off the forums and game. I do have to say though I enjoyed some of the yim convos and no I will not post that info the result of this experiment or at least the details of it I won’t pots but I will say this I found my ability to read how some would react was interesting. I found I was in the area of being about 75% correct. I have to say that this experiment was a success for what it was intended for. Also since I was playing with people this was also a secret quest/task Mourn the Leper come find me in game as I am rewarding you 1 x Wish point for your response. Hope you are not all to annoyed with me Yrthilian

lol happy Bday old man

sorry as yoshi reminded me Some questions: MP limits? [i]this is currently mp5 only[/i] Will alts be invited, or main accounts only? [i]nope the only alts allowd are the libs[/i] What happens if a lib gets broken? [i]contact me and i will fix them again[/i] What happens if a person breaks them intentionally? [i]they will be kicked from the island and will not be allowed back into the training grounds[/i] What happens if a person breaks another person there? [i]they will be warned and if the do it again they will be removed from the island and will not be allowed back into the training grounds[/i] Are we allowed to attack each other? [i]yes that would not be a problem[/i] If you don't like another that is there due to personal reasons, can you switch out with someone else? [i]Depend on the reasons and the timing but yes it would be done so as you are with players you get on with.[/i]

Mourn the leper you make some good points there is merit to what you say and could be implemented. So i take it this is all the feedback? hmm i was expecting bigger resistance to be honest

Miq

yes locations are a main sorce of problems as to whome is easer to get to. people keep counting the steps from GoE For Golemus the easy place is necro to attack not winds it is more costly in AP Now i am not saying winds is not the closet to GoE but i for one do not go there. With regard the TC i agree that if you are associated with a land you should not be able to take a torch from another lands capital this would in its self cut back on the points scoring and make people play agenst other lands. But again other land are almost dead in regards to population or because of time zones. One thing i have to point out even in TC mp5 cannot attack mp3/4 unless they are in an allaince it is done under the same as the combat system.

ok so am i to take it that people what to see the libs come out and train? if so i am sure i can have that arranged. But if this is to happen i want to hear NO complaints about alt abuse as this is what was said before when they were out and had to be put back in the fort

The libs were created a long time ago back before the rules agenst alts. I believe it was because of the lib army the alt rules came in but i could be wrong there too. As no one kindly points out the libs sat in Golemus fort and were prepairing them selfs. and No one got his info worng too though as the public idea was a developent in work for some time. Yes Lifeline was there training the with them as the alt finder stoped them from training on their own. Since lifelines starts are all over the place as it is he was the best candit for the job. When the issue was raid of persional training the training got put on hold untill a new way was found. You will also find if anyone else tries to create the same amount of libs that the system will not let you. Now as i said make suggestions to a better way and i will happly use another way. But i will also say if this system cant be use then the same can be said for the GGG as everyone keeps saying they are the same. nless you want to go back to the rules again on how something is allowed untill it is found and so on and so on.

Ok i agree my approach on this subject was completly wrong so in turn i am willing to try and find a better way. he libs need to train. So if anyone is willing to put a better way for them to do it please by all meens put it forward. I am open to suggestions always am. I am following a request to get the libs trainined up and to try and have them carry out what they were created for remember the libs are an army and an army has to train in one form or another. I understand i may be wrong to create the training ground for them so i ask you for another way to train them. Currently under the Alt abuse rules what i was creating is not alt abuse. or at lest from my understanding of the rules. unless you can show me other wise. I am not afraid to admit when i am wrong. but please just show the rules and how it is beeing broken and i will do all i an to make sure it is not.

you know i did write a long post but i removed it I though it too insulting and done in anger. So i will write another in a less angered tone to explain what is ment of this training ground. It will be something though that will go ahead. in one way or another. So instead of saying this is how it is going to be i am open to suggestion. All i can say is the libs will get trained.

As stated above it is by invite only and Golemus people are automaticaly invited. It will be keept to 5 people at a time so it will be kept private as it will be in a non public location too. When i have the forst 5 request i will then start the GTG. I will also extend invites to the kingship people. if they wish to use the GTG. Yes some people will get special invites as per my whim to do so as this is my GTG. this will also be done on a rota basis. (Edit to remove invites to kingship)

[quote name='Chewett' date='20 June 2010 - 10:27 AM' timestamp='1277026028' post='62313'] So, GGG was banned from having alts, wheras a king is making something so similar... With even more alts... Nice equality [/quote] yes i am making something similar as part of a solution. you dont like it well that is your problem. The libs have a legacy to follow and they will follow it If you have a problem with that well i dont care. This is a solution that works without proper abuse. as i personaly dont gain from them. So i am not abuse the alt system as per the rules. I have already spoken with thoes that needed to know and this is going ahead. BTW this is only Phase one of the plan so you may not like what i do with phase 2. but well you will see.

[center][color="#FF0000"]Basic Training Rules in Golemus[/color] - Only by invite will you be allowed to use the training ground. (note: all Golemus people automatically get an invite). - attacking rituals must deal no damage or lifesteal to single creatures or all creatures, or heal/regen your own creatures; - as part of the invite process only 5 players at a time will be allowed into the training grounds this will be done on a rota bases. - If you leave the training ground during training you will not be let back in until it is your turn again. -This will be done on a rota basis so all Golemus people will get a chance to use the GTG. The roat will be for 5 days worth of training then you have to wait untill the others have had their training. then the rota will start agan. [u]This is a test for the first run of the Golemus Training Grounds more rules may be added as time goes on.[/u] [b]The purpose is to gain wins for your creatures without hurting the lib[/b] [b]The Lib’s will also change from just wins to proper training as per there requirements as this is to also help the Lib’s in their legacy.[/b] [/center] (Edit to add new rule of rota system)

ok if we are going to vote can we please turn this into a poll much easer to vote that way.

[quote] haha I do think it is a very good idea though, it would stop mountains being made of molehills [/quote] well that was the idea this is what a 3/4 page issue for something that really should not be an issue

Make a list/poll and we can all vote Mind you this vote does not meen that player gets the keys He aked us to vote to see whom we would choose But i still think a coin box or npc is a good idea but then again i would.