Yrthilian

hmm how about no player gets it Could it be coded in that you pat 1 silver to a NPC/coin box and you recive the key item for say 2 hours. Once the time is up the key goes back to the box. This takes away for the need of getting a player to take care of the keys and have them beeing online all the time. This would also cover the issue of diffrent time zones and people not beeing online when someone in a diffrent time zone wants the key? Just something to put in there. I think it would be an easer way to resolve this who should we pick. Or Mur just pick the player you were going to pick and be done with this

Hmm well it would seem people dont understand the system at all do they "LR got beaten down for heating" There was proff given so this cannot be false. there were alts used in that TC at that time to help you win. end of. Now back to the fact the Golemus keeps winning How do we keep winning? well we take part and with the current game setup anyone can do it. As to the neg point they dont really cont anyways but yes will make it mor difficult Chew accuses Golemus of making them in the neg. Sorry chew but i can say for sure that was not us. UD is easer to keep defended. Golemus well we are far way from most lands LR got the smack down from the TC long ago and well have been more or less left alone Necro well they are closer to one land than the rest Comon people look at the system look at how it can be done without CHEATING it is not hard and Golemus has shown this to be true with only a few taking part. Why dont you just try playing fair an see what happens. How about this I challange you all to do better and find the way to win

[quote] Yrth, that's plain bs . According to your logic (and phantasm as well) I should get the item phantasm had/has for running the GGG. Why? Because the players are sent into UG which according to both your logic is MY territory. Or at least I should have as many rights over it as a player who is affiliated to MDA. In this case nor phantasm nor Chewett would be entitled to the item. [/quote] Regards the item well no you would be wrong in that as MDA is not really a land per say. It is there and well mostly empty. Just because an item send someone to a place does not meen that it is an item of that place. The GGG is a completly diffrent issue to be honest and one i wont get into from here. As UG has no real ruller unless you wish to become queen then you have no claim to any item and as the item is not a land based item you have less of a claim to be honest. i am only goign by the logic you put forward here for the argument over the GGG item but to point out also i didnt know there was one [quote] Oh and I have another nomination if you want: Yoshi. [/quote] Yoshi would be a good choise. The idea of this nominated list is for people to be nominated i agreed that i would lean more towards players from the location that is involved in this dispute. If you wish Make a list of players and i meen a proper list one that can be seen without having to go through all the pages of the topic or even start a new clean topic and have people vote.

Umm this argument is starting to turn into an attack on not having guilds again. Can we please keep this on topic The fact is an event was planed. a murder was commited but since some people were not informed of this chaos eroupted. The fact is the people involved relied on the TC to fix something they did. Now the fact is if TC was not run Mya would still be dead. as the people involve had NO other way of reviving Mya. it is only chance that the TC is still working that mya could come back if TC was changed then what. Thoes people that organised the even would have destroyed a player. Ok now the issue of informing people. The person involved AS THIS WAS A QUEST should have been asked about this. I dont care what? why? or how? the fact remains that they should have. It is only common curtisy for an in game event. You cannot compair EVERY thing in MD to RL. GET over it people MD is NOT RL and some thing that happen should be concidered. This stupid back and forth fighting and people trying to bring in other argument that have no INVOLVMENT in this particular argument. We all know the king done know everything that is going on in their realms but i am sure if you wish them to that there is a way but then every one would moan that the kingship is hunting players down and punishing them. Get over that fact. Also time is an issue with event beeing run. Most of this particular even was run in a diffrent time zone ans we know the pain that causes. So first stop acting like children and have a decent discussion about the even in question and stop trying to stab at the other issue already in discussion. If you are anoyed that you RL friend or even in game friend got punished for crap then use the topic involved in that. right now that is my rant over for now so peopel have a proper discussion in the topic and STAY on topic.

you know i would have to agree with phan on this one. It does not matter how or why the room ended up in tribunal the fact of the matter is it is in tribunal lands So yes i would agree with phan that someone from tribunal should have the keys so to add to phan nomination, i would also like to suggest that Sephirah be the next key holder

well just adding something yes the item is allowed it was scripted by Mur. If you look at the item is shows it is not scriptable and shows it cannot be traded As far as i know and yes i know i can be wrong you cannot script an item to make it untradeable. the scripting of items cannot so far as i know be done from a normal players point. again i could be wrong but i dont think the ablity is there to make a weapon be killable. I will how ever admint even i was angered by the sudden death of a player but over time and after talking with many i see this as a good/bad thing Items should be respected for what they can do and how they do it.

[quote name='Rhaegar Targaryen' date='17 June 2010 - 10:31 AM' timestamp='1276767116' post='62046'] can your one post ever be non-political Yrthilian? [/quote] sorry this is off topic but umm... What? I am not beeing political in my last post it is how i see it. i dont get what you meen by beeing non-political? please clarify. send me a PM to keep this from going completly off topic. [b]Edit to add last line[/b]

there are only a few i would think fit this job and yes DST is high on that list Out of the people i know in game I see the likes of Fir's DST Akasha Grido Yes i know this is a very select few but they are the only ones i know online a lot and are well known in game. Grido and DST are proably the most seen and are in NML the most and easy to find or contact. SO yes i would think DST would be best suted for the task as i am sure grido will try and get bribs (only messing G) As much as people may dislike DST she is also fair in many of her dealing and as mentioned she would not care for what is going on in that room as it is private and DST i am sure will respect that. Yes i also think it would be good for it to go to someone from the east lands but to find a truly nutral player well that is like looking for a needel in a hay stack.

umm i dont know if i had that one mur this is what i have for tomattos [url="http://www.pantheonpc.com/sla/killer.jpg"]Killer 1[/url] [url="http://www.pantheonpc.com/sla/killer2.jpg"]Killer2[/url] [url="http://www.pantheonpc.com/sla/funny-pictures-tomato-is-shaped-like-bunny.jpg"]Bunny[/url] and the one in my sig.

Well as you may have guessed yes i know it is a matter of getting prof and of catching people in the act the main aim o this post was to establish the fact that yes it is alt abuse. In having had this establised in a topic discussion this meens that any one tryign to claim but there is no rule agenst it crap. As i know that there is someone about to try and pull this action off this post serves as a warning too. As people will be watching and waiting for such actions and waiting to pounce on the fact the action is taken place. So as you can see this topic has 2 actions. 1. to make a point of the fact it IS alt abuse 2. To try and come up with some sort of solution to stop it from happining now i know option 2 is that hard part and yes i have to admit i have no way that i can think of to stop this from happining even if it was hard coded to stop trading between alts. there is still a way around it this i know. I also know there is a much ease way to trade between alts but the samples about were just that samples. I know we could list all doffrent ways but i didnt want to spend my entire lunch typing Anywas i dont have a soluton to option 2 but at least a discussion has started and well you never know a solution might present its self. (looks at dst only joking )

Ok i have to ask the comunity this This is a theory and has so far as i know not happened yet. After some chatting with some player regards land items and in general game items we became concerned with a posable alt abuse system that may not have been concidered as of yet. I will try to explain as best i can this idea and want to find it i am right in thinking it is alt abuse. Player A (Main) Player B (alt 1) (note this could be done with many alts but only thies 2 account will be for the example) 1. ALT1 has an item but will only trade such an item for a rare creature but request the the creature be given to MAIN. Is this alt abuse as it would be useing an item from ALT to gain a rare creater for the MAIN? 2. ALT1 trade item for rare creature uses a proxy player to trade creature to main. Is this alt abuse as it would be useing an item from ALT to gain a rare creater and useing a proxy player to gove the MAIN a rare creature? Now i am sure there are many other ways to do this and create a long trail. But i find i am getting more anoyed with the whole items getten given to player alts and hidden away from the realm. Esp land items. Now i am all up for trading to get item back but players are asking for far to much like rare creatures or credit in order to do this and this in MY opinion is going way to far. So what do you think are the outlined theroies above concidered alt abuse? is there even a way to track this sort of abuse? Thanks for you opinions Yrthilian Golemus King Golemus technomage

yes he says if you get into the military branch. that is you have to get prometed first. so unless you are promoted you dont get paid. so in essence you are not beeing offer payment to join the allaince it does help IF you read the details and how they are put in the post.

well it didnt take long for this to be asked. No the King will not use there ablities for such things as the GGG the King powers are for there land ONLY. This tool is not for non land issues. The GGG needs to find its own way to survive in the realm if it does not then it only meens its time has come. I am sorry but i for one will never use a King given ablity to support non Golemus land issues. I am sure the other kings would agree with me on that to. (NOTE: i think this is not an LR land topic and should proably be moved to no mans land.)

Well you all remember the day i decreed the banning of Grido from Golemus and removed his Access to the land. Through this action hostilities were born and much changed within the land of Golemus. The people were devided, The land became devided. I still stand by the action i took back then and would do it again. But now i think it time to rebuild Golemus and unite it people again and work through the issues of the past. In starting this process I am granting Grido his LAND access It is my hope that with this we can all work together to build a better Golemus and with that a stronger Golemus. Yrthilian King Of Golemus Golemus Technomage

(Off Topic) [quote name='Rhaegar Targaryen' date='07 June 2010 - 04:21 PM' timestamp='1275924085' post='61252'] I didn't want it to go through the process of papirology and editing so it becomes something I don't want to be at the end, with a good experiance of everything else denied earlier due to possible 'complications'. [/quote] (Papirology)????? I believe this is the meening of it and makes no sence in this post. [b]Papyrology[/b] is the study of ancient literature, correspondence, legal archives, etc., as preserved in manuscripts written on papyrus, the most common form of writing material in the ancient civilizations of Egypt, Greece, and Rome. Papyrology includes both the translation and interpretation of ancient documents in a variety of languages, as well as the care and preservation of rare papyrus originals. (On topic) Please clarify the asbove as it make you last comment in a form that is not understandable.

hmm i have stayed away but i have to say something. first you are breaking a rule. As per the anouncment as a memeber of the land and the allaince being bound to the land of LR. you are bound by the rules of the land and its king. So since you have decided to disobay your king you are commiting treason. This is an observation. Also by stating this is a group of LR you are stating it is part of LR and there for overriding your king.

[quote name='dst' date='03 June 2010 - 11:06 PM' timestamp='1275602765' post='60914'] @ DST Well then I should not be punished for attacking them.I am training also, right? [/quote] I have never said you did wrong at GGG beside Mur said you are guilty of what i dont know anyways. Back tot he topic GGG has done as much good as it has bad. Any can see from my own stats i dont use it much myself The only reason i have is to fix some bad creatue choices or to see how a new creature advances. I as a VET player am very week compaired to many. I never really did bother with combat. But the issue that is raised here is that some old vet cant handel having a player be bigger then them so the train out of fear from what i see. now not al vets do this. I have been playing for a long time i have seen player come and go. All for difrent reason. Some because they CANT enjoy the game because they are beeing attacked all the time and dont get a chance to learn. The people that are agenst the ggg i understand why and in many casses agree. But the issue here is (and has been mentioned before) that if you pull doen the ggg them you will just create scattered versions of it and the issues will be come bigger later. It would be good to see some vets help new player learn but no most will just attack you and move on not even giving advice along the way. It can take a lot of time to learn about combat and the system behind it. The other problme is when one is attacked they cant see the full attack log to learn from so the only way to find out is attack someone bigger than you and then look at the log. There is no real solution to GGG. Let be honest here if a stat grinder want stats they will finad a way to get them. The GGG only server as a platform. One that was intended to help new players learn and develope to give them a chance. But again like the dojo and others like it get abused this is the history of such things and well i think if GGG goes then the next thing that will be seen is a GGG like training ground in each land now 2 land can close off some areas to the public so this will create another issue and a bigger one What i suggest is this. Work out a new system or agree to a new way. Create a solution in stead of creating a VOID that will get filled with something equaly as bad if not worse.

[quote name='No one' date='03 June 2010 - 09:54 PM' timestamp='1275598475' post='60910'] You all say that some players are overpowered, some creatures do too much damage. YES, you allowed some to over (ab)use this GGG to achieve all that. [/quote] Umm... the ones that have huge stats had them befor the GGG they used bugs and breaking the rules to get them they were not punished for this. Now with regards GGG well if people decide to gater and train that is there choice not your's you dont like it thuff This is a game were one has the freedom to do prety much what they want within limits and well so far GGG has not broken that limit from what i can see. If you dont like GGG then dont go there it is that simple. i dont care if it is closed down or not i dont use it often but then if you are going to start this grinding complains lest go a step further reset all account how about that

that is in time since we fly out on tuesday well put me down for it

1 x black cover for me Mur If it can be done before i go home that is

Hmm well i dont agree with getting perm stat boost from heat in any way to be honest this can be abused in many ways. But i do have some suggestions 1. Use head to charge items as said before but i think this could be doen for armour. For example the current armour give a % bonous to your defence and other stats. This could be enhanced in some armour to give a bigger bonous useing the same count down as the heat counter so say you put n 2k heat it gove you an extra bonous of say 10% the 2k heat starts counting down and when it runs out the bonous is gone. This could also be done with any item in game. That would be as far as i would go with stat boosts. This could also be done for armour with sockets. or just on armour that have sockets. I dont know if there was to be another idea for sockets I know i have ideas of what could be done for thoes but that s another matter. I dont think any one should have the ablity to change people stats as they wish unless under very strict rules as this could be abused in a bit way and can cause great damage in the long run. as has been mentioned we would need a log to keep track of all changes done to a players stats. Will this put more strain on the servers?

yep they be back and i now have some of my research back too BIG THUMBS UP

[quote name='Blackwoodforest' date='28 May 2010 - 11:32 AM' timestamp='1275042770' post='60522'] You folks spent the money for a trip to Romania just for a few drinks? Where will you stay there over nights or so? Isn´t this expensive as hell? [/quote] well myself and firs are heading over on Friday the 4th and are heading back on the Tuesday it was not very expensive to be honest

As far as i know any one that can make it can go hey the more the merrier i say

hehehe no one said anything about me not drinking *sneaks off into the corner with his bottel of wisky*