Yoshi

[quote name='Burns' date='16 September 2009 - 06:51 AM' timestamp='1253098296' post='41890']
-Combat is what keeps people [u]active[/u], they don't stick around to wait for a new quest to start or because someone might drop by to RP with them, Battle is what makes you log on, search people, and start actions that might even have impact in RP
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I'd have to disagree with you on this point(and ONLY this point). I have always enjoyed doing quests more than fighting on every game I've played that involved quests. I WOULD actually wait for a quest to start or to role-play because I enjoy those things more than battling. But I very well might be one of the only ones that think like that. [img]http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/public/style_emoticons//cool.gif[/img]

Not a new thing.

(I think) This happens because whenever you get attacked, the game sends a signal to the attack icon and tells it to light up. When you're idle, it can't do this, so it stores it. When you get attacked, say, five times, the give you one lit up attack icon for each attack, but since, like messages, it only shows the latest one, you see the same one again and again.

Simple solution: Log out instead of idling, or deal with it, because it's not a huge issue.

[url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/7442-new-shop-item-idea/"]Here[/url]

[url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/5743-new-wish-shop-item-balance-profile/"]And here[/url]

I believe that will be all.

[quote name='Rhaegar Targaryen' date='10 July 2010 - 06:23 PM' timestamp='1278800611' post='63776']
....the idea about starting this was to listen to constructive feedback of people, not sentimental complaints and biased conservative, political posts. in the meantime I noticed I ain't gonna get what I was expecting so went on to the testing phase....
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You just didn't like/accept the criticism you received. The sparring grounds were awesome, I don't even know the rules of what to do now, there's no direction, no basic rules that are easy to understand. The sparring grounds was an easy concept, easy to grasp and understand. What you did to it, I don't feel was for the best, but for the worse.

[quote name='Rhaegar Targaryen' date='10 July 2010 - 06:23 PM' timestamp='1278800611' post='63776']
....the idea about starting this was to listen to constructive feedback of people, not sentimental complaints and biased conservative, political posts. in the meantime I noticed I ain't gonna get what I was expecting so went on to the testing phase....
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You just didn't like/accept the criticism you received. The sparring grounds were awesome, I don't even know the rules of what to do now, there's no direction, no basic rules that are easy to understand. The sparring grounds was an easy concept, easy to grasp and understand. What you did to it, I don't feel was for the best, but for the worse.

[quote name='Rhaegar Targaryen' date='10 July 2010 - 06:23 PM' timestamp='1278800611' post='63776']
....the idea about starting this was to listen to constructive feedback of people, not sentimental complaints and biased conservative, political posts. in the meantime I noticed I ain't gonna get what I was expecting so went on to the testing phase....
[/quote]


You just didn't like/accept the criticism you received. The sparring grounds were awesome, I don't even know the rules of what to do now, there's no direction, no basic rules that are easy to understand. The sparring grounds was an easy concept, easy to grasp and understand. What you did to it, I don't feel was for the best, but for the worse.

[quote name='Rhaegar Targaryen' date='10 July 2010 - 06:23 PM' timestamp='1278800611' post='63776']
....the idea about starting this was to listen to constructive feedback of people, not sentimental complaints and biased conservative, political posts. in the meantime I noticed I ain't gonna get what I was expecting so went on to the testing phase....
[/quote]


You just didn't like/accept the criticism you received. The sparring grounds were awesome, I don't even know the rules of what to do now, there's no direction, no basic rules that are easy to understand. The sparring grounds was an easy concept, easy to grasp and understand. What you did to it, I don't feel was for the best, but for the worse.

Personally, the old sparring grounds was perfectly fine... I miss it >.>

Personally, the old sparring grounds was perfectly fine... I miss it >.>

Ok, I'm going to say something in here, there are alternatives to grinding at the GGG. They consist of:

The Sparring Grounds/Dojo - Here you can set your GGG rits, find those that have a single tree set up, and attack them with your non damaging/multiple attack rits. You also have the chance here to attack the idlers here, using rits that actually kill.

The GoE - Here you now have Burns' Fight Club which is a good way of learning how to defeat various rituals using your knowledge of ritual setting. How do you get that knowledge? Attacking and seeing what happens. Learning from experience, not just 'no matter what, I know I'll win, so I won't do anything different because I don't have to'. That thinking screws up your mind.

Everywhere else in MD - Go out and RP, do something other than sitting at the same scene. Please... for your own good... go outside the GGG and PLAY!

This topic is ridiculous. Do we really need Mur to solve the problem? This is alt abuse, because without alts, you wouldn't have your items and coins.

If you had just kept quiet, you could've avoided some of the consequences, but because you just had to see if you were in the right, you've gotten yourself into more trouble. I suggest that we all stop this pointless arguing and just close the topic, as it's clear how the community feels (16 to 7 with a couple who clicked the wrong button.)

i think its fine this way but if there are to be 2 species i would suggest to put the wind DRAGON into his own species. its a dragon afterall and no drachorn. then of course limit it to just 1 but its not really necessary.

[quote name='redneck' date='01 July 2010 - 11:17 AM' timestamp='1278004639' post='63105']
lol you keep sending me and ill keep gettin g out i have a spell to and yeh you are jeakousy and you wernt even set yourself there>> and yeh im pretty sure you where jealousy
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Yeah, I totally where jeakousy. I don't know how I'll ever get over my jeakous.

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Ok, I'm going to say something in here, there are alternatives to grinding at the GGG. They consist of:

The Sparring Grounds/Dojo - Here you can set your GGG rits, find those that have a single tree set up, and attack them with your non damaging/multiple attack rits. You also have the chance here to attack the idlers here, using rits that actually kill.

The GoE - Here you now have Burns' Fight Club which is a good way of learning how to defeat various rituals using your knowledge of ritual setting. How do you get that knowledge? Attacking and seeing what happens. Learning from experience, not just 'no matter what, I know I'll win, so I won't do anything different because I don't have to'. That thinking screws up your mind.

Everywhere else in MD - Go out and RP, do something other than sitting at the same scene. Please... for your own good... go outside the GGG and PLAY!

Ok, I'm going to say something in here, there are alternatives to grinding at the GGG. They consist of:

The Sparring Grounds/Dojo - Here you can set your GGG rits, find those that have a single tree set up, and attack them with your non damaging/multiple attack rits. You also have the chance here to attack the idlers here, using rits that actually kill.

The GoE - Here you now have Burns' Fight Club which is a good way of learning how to defeat various rituals using your knowledge of ritual setting. How do you get that knowledge? Attacking and seeing what happens. Learning from experience, not just 'no matter what, I know I'll win, so I won't do anything different because I don't have to'. That thinking screws up your mind.

Everywhere else in MD - Go out and RP, do something other than sitting at the same scene. Please... for your own good... go outside the GGG and PLAY!

Ok, I'm going to say something in here, there are alternatives to grinding at the GGG. They consist of:

The Sparring Grounds/Dojo - Here you can set your GGG rits, find those that have a single tree set up, and attack them with your non damaging/multiple attack rits. You also have the chance here to attack the idlers here, using rits that actually kill.

The GoE - Here you now have Burns' Fight Club which is a good way of learning how to defeat various rituals using your knowledge of ritual setting. How do you get that knowledge? Attacking and seeing what happens. Learning from experience, not just 'no matter what, I know I'll win, so I won't do anything different because I don't have to'. That thinking screws up your mind.

Everywhere else in MD - Go out and RP, do something other than sitting at the same scene. Please... for your own good... go outside the GGG and PLAY!

Ok, I'm going to say something in here, there are alternatives to grinding at the GGG. They consist of:

The Sparring Grounds/Dojo - Here you can set your GGG rits, find those that have a single tree set up, and attack them with your non damaging/multiple attack rits. You also have the chance here to attack the idlers here, using rits that actually kill.

The GoE - Here you now have Burns' Fight Club which is a good way of learning how to defeat various rituals using your knowledge of ritual setting. How do you get that knowledge? Attacking and seeing what happens. Learning from experience, not just 'no matter what, I know I'll win, so I won't do anything different because I don't have to'. That thinking screws up your mind.

Everywhere else in MD - Go out and RP, do something other than sitting at the same scene. Please... for your own good... go outside the GGG and PLAY!

Ok, I'm going to say something in here, there are alternatives to grinding at the GGG. They consist of:

The Sparring Grounds/Dojo - Here you can set your GGG rits, find those that have a single tree set up, and attack them with your non damaging/multiple attack rits. You also have the chance here to attack the idlers here, using rits that actually kill.

The GoE - Here you now have Burns' Fight Club which is a good way of learning how to defeat various rituals using your knowledge of ritual setting. How do you get that knowledge? Attacking and seeing what happens. Learning from experience, not just 'no matter what, I know I'll win, so I won't do anything different because I don't have to'. That thinking screws up your mind.

Everywhere else in MD - Go out and RP, do something other than sitting at the same scene. Please... for your own good... go outside the GGG and PLAY!

Ok, I'm going to say something in here, there are alternatives to grinding at the GGG. They consist of:

The Sparring Grounds/Dojo - Here you can set your GGG rits, find those that have a single tree set up, and attack them with your non damaging/multiple attack rits. You also have the chance here to attack the idlers here, using rits that actually kill.

The GoE - Here you now have Burns' Fight Club which is a good way of learning how to defeat various rituals using your knowledge of ritual setting. How do you get that knowledge? Attacking and seeing what happens. Learning from experience, not just 'no matter what, I know I'll win, so I won't do anything different because I don't have to'. That thinking screws up your mind.

Everywhere else in MD - Go out and RP, do something other than sitting at the same scene. Please... for your own good... go outside the GGG and PLAY!

In response to Burns' paragraph about ally-people, I am in an alliance, but there are lots of people who can beat me up. The difference is, I generally avoid them if I don't want to lose, which is rare because I know how to protect myself. I've beaten Burns, and even dst in fights (when they were using training rits...shh don't tell >>), and they've beaten me. I don't mind. The game isn't about winning fights, it's about balance, unless you've forgotten.

MP5 is not supposed to be easy. You are not supposed to be able to just advance and be able to beat anyone you fight with. That's what growth is. That's why you can reduce EXP at MP5. The reason you're still scared to move up is because you're probably capped and aren't growing or getting stronger. You're just sitting there, and until you advance to MP5, you're not going to get any stronger.

As for Reins, Rusties and tokens, those are easy enough to get, if you either support the game (buy them), vote for free credits diligently, trade for credits, or even just get lucky.

If you don't like tokens, and don't want to buy them, then that's your choice, but don't complain when the players that have tokens start beating you up. You have the choice of getting tokens.

If you think of MP levels as skill levels in a chess competition, beginners play against beginners (MP3), moderate (or whatever it would be) plays against moderate (MP4), skilled players play against skilled players (MP5), and the masters (vets) play against whoever challenges them (alliance members). Applying this to MD, right now, beginners and moderate players can become as good and better than the skilled players and masters through GGG. If a moderate player beat a master, would the judge (in this case, Burns) allow the moderate player to continue playing against other moderate players? If you can beat all the other moderate players, and become a skilled player, should you be worried about the other skilled players? Yes! They will beat you, because you are used to playing against moderate players, and you won't know as many techniques as the skilled players. Just because a few skilled players beat you, do you give up on chess forever, or do you practice more, get better, and come back to challenge the skilled players again?

[url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/7195-stop-ggg/page__view__findpost__p__60943"]See here[/url] for a possibly clearer explanation.

Yes, that was a long post/rant. Haha.

[quote name='apophys' date='28 June 2010 - 10:43 AM' timestamp='1277736217' post='62857']
Yep, you counted right. Miq 14, Yoshi 13.
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Why do you have to rub it in!?! D: Nah I'm just kidding I still find it amusing that nobody even asked me if I wanted the keys in the first place. XD

Gratz Miq.

[quote name='apophys' date='28 June 2010 - 10:43 AM' timestamp='1277736217' post='62857']
Yep, you counted right. Miq 14, Yoshi 13.
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Why do you have to rub it in!?! D: Nah I'm just kidding I still find it amusing that nobody even asked me if I wanted the keys in the first place. XD

Gratz Miq.

Absolutely correct, GGG is not the reason why people don't want to advance.

However, GGG is the reason why people can play endlessly without advancing.
And what they do, and what you do, is quite simply scaring newbies away. You complain that mp5 is so hard. What d'you think how a new mp4 feels when looking at nadrolski's tree with 5k defence? Huh?
Does he think 'Oh, what a nice guy, he lets me have a free win or two', or do they think 'OMG, he has 5k defence, i have 20... I can stop playing now, i'll never beat that'?

When they advance to mp5, they know that they enter the fighting level, where the vets lurk. Where they will get smacked around the head repeatedly before they understand what to do. Where they'll even lose to the dead idlers for a long time. Where they will encounter drachorns, tokens and angiens.
When they advance to mp4, they don't even know the lorerootian creatures, and are far from understanding tokens, drachs and angiens. And yet, they have to deal with vets with stats, tokens and creatures some (rather most) mp5 never get.

And that's why i can't and won't leave you be. Not because i need targets, i have enough, and i won't be around much to kill them either way.
But because YOU frustrate newbies after a week, not after 2 months. The difference is that after a week, a frustrated player leaves, after 2 months, a frustrated player has tools, knowledge and friends to overcome the frustration and get deeper into MD.

And in response to all the rest: I've been talking to people far too long. I've been talking for ages. Reasoning bounces off their egocentrical picture of the world like rain off the lotus leaves. The time for idle chatting is over. It sometimes takes extreme measures to change a flawed system, like an ally-takeover, or a 3-day trip to MP6 to get 2 hour movelocks. This time, it's the forceful disbanding of ggg for the newbies.

I don't understand the concern of the MP5 about GGG. I spend a lot of time there, and I rarely see any MP5.actually, at GGG, there usually are 3-4 MP4, occasionally 5-6. Indeed, a while ago, there were alot of MP5, but not lately.
Since at MP4 there is no way to loose personal experience, GGG is the only option to train, in order to have any chance to play the game when advancing to MP5. Gaining stats through usual fighting is limited by the exp cap. It is not fun to train all day at GGG for several years. It is actually boring. But is the only way.Otherwise I am sure I will be able to defeat few players at MP5, and will eventually quit the game.
Those MP5 who are against GGG have only one reason to close it: they want new weak players to get to MP5 asap, so they can slaughter them easily. They want easy wins.This is the real reason. In other words, they want to make the whole MD a training ground for them, but with no rules (where only veterans will train, and the younger players will act as training dummies). But this is not going to happen, with or without GGG. No one is going to play this game for the only purpose of giving easy wins to veterans.I guess everyone have better things to do than play as dummies for the veterans.
I advise all MP4 to make an alt (at least), and get to MP5 with that alt, instead of ruining their main account. If they can manage to play with the alt, then they can advance with the main account. The game is very unbalanced at MP5, since it allows ppl to train there as much as they want with no exp cap restrictions. Mp5 players will say that GGG makes the game as much as unbalanced as MP5 is (or even more). They are wrong. because of the exp cap, players who grinds stats at MP4 won't harm weaker players, since they don't need anymore exp (if they would need exp, they wouldn't train at GGG). And if they want experience, they can get it at GGG from bursts anyway.

If you want to destroy GGG, I would suggest to reset the game first, then make all MP not able to loose personal experience (so that MP5 veterans will be forced to move to MP6, and so on). Protect the new players before destroying their only hope. Or you will have no more new players that will play for more than 2 months.

What do you offer that they do not? I mean, they've been doing it longer, so why should we go through you?