freelancer

The reason I made my post is to try to make you people see the whole thing differently, but I see some of you still insisting on looking everything from your own perspective. If only you would allow yourself to see if from a different view point.
Is it gloating? Or is it motivating?

How often do you see mp3 defeat mp5 vets? Even with burst.. you don’t think its something? The amount of work needed to be able to do that is unspeakable.

Feb made the seemingly impossible possible, and all of you decide to regard it negatively. Why do you have such a huge problem with it? Ok, grinding is discouraging. I myself don’t like it either, but it is possible. The game made it possible.

If you really don’t like it, then you shouldn’t be mad at Feb, you should be mad at the game.

I do not have the time to address every1 individually, but the above is the reason I made the post.

And the fact that I disagree with you all is the real reason you gave me neg rep. Same reason you wont look at the whole thing differently. Try to be more open minded.

edit: fixed some spelling problem

I dont get it. Why is everybody, especially the vets, being so negative about this post? Is it so bad that you got your asses kicked by a mp3? Is it because you always have to be the over powered ones? Maybe it hurted your feelings when February defeated your creatures? You vets should know better than any1 that losing is a part of this game, a very important part too. So why are you all treating this post so negatively?

You may say that feb is setting a bad example to the new mp3 players that grinding is the way to go, but I say that he is just introducing another way to play the game. We all choose to play this game, and we get play it the way we want it. It is not like grinding is against the rules.

You think it is easy for February, a mp3 player to get that much stats and enough xp for those angiens? With the 380k xp cap, it takes extreme patience, time, and a deep understanding of the mechanism of this game to achieve that. I am not saying grinding is good, nor its fun, but come on.. how many mp3 do you know that can defeat those vets?
Only February…. So that is something.
He might not have done it the way you expect him to, and why should he if he does not like your way.

Hell how many mp4s or even mp5s do you know that can defeat those players? Not much. It is amazing that an mp3 is able to achieve that level of skill.

And to those who think the pictures that nad posted are considered spoilers... o come on. Are you kidding me? They are just pictures of some crits, I mean it does not even tell you what kind of creature is it, nor does it tell you what the creatures can do. They are just pictures for god’s sakes. To new players…they are no more than a glimpse of what is the future of this game has to offer. Those creatures can motivate new mp3s to keep playing.
But if the pictures are really too much for you, then I honestly do not know what to say, except that it is ridiculous. Or is that too much of a spoiler for you ?

And lastly to those who says they are not impressed, Nad and feb are not trying to impress anyone. I doubt they even care what you vets think. The real reason they made this post is to motivate the relatively new players. That the fighting system in this game is not just about losing and skill damage, if they work hard enough, they do not have to hide or kill off their creatures to avoid skill damage, because victories can be achieved. A mp3 defeating mp5 vets is the best example of that.

So before you give me those negative reps, think deep down why you are doing it.

Maybe I'm missing something but I've always felt that Mur designed, and continues to design this game to encourage people to explore and to learn, and to test limits and push themselves to new levels. Topics like this are always about putting restrictions on people which I think defeats that purpose. I wonder if our time would be better served discussing ways to develop the game rather than restrict it?

I dont get it. Why is everybody, especially the vets, being so negative about this post? Is it so bad that you got your asses kicked by a mp3? Is it because you always have to be the over powered ones? Maybe it hurted your feelings when February defeated your creatures? You vets should know better than any1 that losing is a part of this game, a very important part too. So why are you all treating this post so negatively?

You may say that feb is setting a bad example to the new mp3 players that grinding is the way to go, but I say that he is just introducing another way to play the game. We all choose to play this game, and we get play it the way we want it. It is not like grinding is against the rules.

You think it is easy for February, a mp3 player to get that much stats and enough xp for those angiens? With the 380k xp cap, it takes extreme patience, time, and a deep understanding of the mechanism of this game to achieve that. I am not saying grinding is good, nor its fun, but come on.. how many mp3 do you know that can defeat those vets?
Only February…. So that is something.
He might not have done it the way you expect him to, and why should he if he does not like your way.

Hell how many mp4s or even mp5s do you know that can defeat those players? Not much. It is amazing that an mp3 is able to achieve that level of skill.

And to those who think the pictures that nad posted are considered spoilers... o come on. Are you kidding me? They are just pictures of some crits, I mean it does not even tell you what kind of creature is it, nor does it tell you what the creatures can do. They are just pictures for god’s sakes. To new players…they are no more than a glimpse of what is the future of this game has to offer. Those creatures can motivate new mp3s to keep playing.
But if the pictures are really too much for you, then I honestly do not know what to say, except that it is ridiculous. Or is that too much of a spoiler for you ?

And lastly to those who says they are not impressed, Nad and feb are not trying to impress anyone. I doubt they even care what you vets think. The real reason they made this post is to motivate the relatively new players. That the fighting system in this game is not just about losing and skill damage, if they work hard enough, they do not have to hide or kill off their creatures to avoid skill damage, because victories can be achieved. A mp3 defeating mp5 vets is the best example of that.

So before you give me those negative reps, think deep down why you are doing it.

As you might know, top players are talking about their damages in hundreds of thousands.
New players talk about it in... tens. not tens of thousands, just tens.

So, like, there i sat with tons of logs, trying to find some creative way to even things out a bit, at least a bit. Just because it doesn't seem really likely for a player to stay when other people can deal a 10.000 times more damage than him. Emphasis on TEN_THOUSAND_TIMES, not a thousand more, but houndreds of thousands more.
Which is only achieveable by shop or a lot, lot, lotlotlot of mindless grinding. And creatures they don't even know about when starting.

But hell, it's hard to balance things, specially because Mur already did a lot of balance-work, and damn, he did it really fine for anything but top-grinders.
And suddenly it occurs to me that i look at the wrong things! It's not tokens that need new balance, it's not crit-boost either, they work just fine!
The only thing that matters here is ORDER!

As with most things, timing and order are crucial in MD battles.
Currently, what happens in a combat is this:

Check rituals and occasionally do a low-vit-randomizer
Load rituals
Apply token-boost
Apply special influences
Apply Combo
Apply energetic influence
Fight

If you just switch two of those sequences, which are probably actually as simple to switch as a cut-paste in the source, and turn it into

Check rituals and occasionally do a low-vit-randomizer
Load rituals
[color="#FF0000"]Apply special influences[/color]
[color="#0000FF"]Apply token-boost[/color]
Apply Combo
Apply energetic influence
Fight

you don't even need to mess with the balance Mur so eloquently puzzled together already, and not change much for most of the players, but cut the damage of top players by... roughly 80%. Probably more.
That turns hundreds of thousands into a few ten thousand, which sounds by far saner. Still not really good, but a whole lot better than current state of things.


Also, since Angiens were designed to do damage comparable to those lethal tokenmonsters, they need to be... regulated, too.
I'd say, cap the burn (NOT the self-inflicted damages, things get calculated normally, and the damage to _the other person_ gets capped afterwards) with the ammount of VE they have at the moment. For the untokened top-players, that's a cut to 1/15th of their current burn-power, tokened angiens would lose 99,99% of their current burn. Not that they'd get weak by that, they are endlessly overpowered as it is.


No new tokens and crit-boost-systems that are totally low when you only have a little of this and a little of that, no, keep them as it is, power to the younglings! But let them work in another order, and the old top notches, token-whores and crit-boost monsters lose their god-status.

Qualified critics are welcome, but please, don't post when you don't have a clue what this might mean if implemented.

[spoiler]
Btw: VE-whores, also the ones with angiens, are not as much of a problem as it seems, either, with severly lowered damages and severely increased VE, eles get a role to play again[/spoiler]

[quote name='(Zl-eye-f)-nea' timestamp='1283158382' post='67354']
The reason people are in this situation is because many don't want to go to MP5, so maybe what actually needs to be fixed is MP5 mode to make it more balanced and accessible both in terms of mechanics and the general attitude around it rather than scape goating the others based on one situation. Its all very well the MP5s saying there is nothing wrong with MP5, but clearly there are enough people not wanting to move there to show otherwise.

Burns - I think to give just one example; Blackwood has shown it isn't that surprisingly easy to beat MP5s.

From my perspective we have a situation where you go MP5, get absolutely pummeled by vets who all give you loses (wouldnt matter so much if they didnt) which means unless you play a major game of hide and seek you end up in stat loss and nobody wants that. I thought stat loss was supposed to stop major gains from unbalance not penalise new MP5s? Then in addition to that a highly visible proportion of said Mp5s opinion seems to be that because they can attack they will and that is that unless you come out and ask them. Now I don't think we should be in a situation where you have to ask players not to attack you, I'm sure it feels pretty demeaning to the new Mp5s to know they either have to hide or beg.

I'm just giving a different perpective as on the whole people commenting about Mp3 and MP4 are Mp5s themselves - and just as you say some can't comment because they don't live MP5, the same can be said of you in terms of the lower levels.

Z
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Ty for realizing what is happening, and i totally agree that something need to be done to make the game more balance.

There are alot of people affected by this, and I have already stated my reasons on post #36 on page 2.

Although i still think stat penalty is the way to go, I do not know how hard it is for mp5 to find people to attack. If stat penalty really is going to reduce that amount even further, then we could apply stat penalty only to those attacking people who are almost at or actually at skill damage, but we will need a way to tell who is at skill damage.

Maybe we could also restrict the number of times in a day you could attack some1 that is much much weaker than you. I know that would not solve the capping problem, but it would make the game more balanced.

[quote name='(Zl-eye-f)-nea' timestamp='1283158382' post='67354']
The reason people are in this situation is because many don't want to go to MP5, so maybe what actually needs to be fixed is MP5 mode to make it more balanced and accessible both in terms of mechanics and the general attitude around it rather than scape goating the others based on one situation. Its all very well the MP5s saying there is nothing wrong with MP5, but clearly there are enough people not wanting to move there to show otherwise.

Burns - I think to give just one example; Blackwood has shown it isn't that surprisingly easy to beat MP5s.

From my perspective we have a situation where you go MP5, get absolutely pummeled by vets who all give you loses (wouldnt matter so much if they didnt) which means unless you play a major game of hide and seek you end up in stat loss and nobody wants that. I thought stat loss was supposed to stop major gains from unbalance not penalise new MP5s? Then in addition to that a highly visible proportion of said Mp5s opinion seems to be that because they can attack they will and that is that unless you come out and ask them. Now I don't think we should be in a situation where you have to ask players not to attack you, I'm sure it feels pretty demeaning to the new Mp5s to know they either have to hide or beg.

I'm just giving a different perpective as on the whole people commenting about Mp3 and MP4 are Mp5s themselves - and just as you say some can't comment because they don't live MP5, the same can be said of you in terms of the lower levels.

Z
[/quote]

Ty for realizing what is happening, and i totally agree that something need to be done to make the game more balance.

There are alot of people affected by this, and I have already stated my reasons on post #36 on page 2.

Although i still think stat penalty is the way to go, I do not know how hard it is for mp5 to find people to attack. If stat penalty really is going to reduce that amount even further, then we could apply stat penalty only to those attacking people who are almost at or actually at skill damage, but we will need a way to tell who is at skill damage.

Maybe we could also restrict the number of times in a day you could attack some1 that is much much weaker than you. I know that would not solve the capping problem, but it would make the game more balanced.

I dont get it. Why is everybody, especially the vets, being so negative about this post? Is it so bad that you got your asses kicked by a mp3? Is it because you always have to be the over powered ones? Maybe it hurted your feelings when February defeated your creatures? You vets should know better than any1 that losing is a part of this game, a very important part too. So why are you all treating this post so negatively?

You may say that feb is setting a bad example to the new mp3 players that grinding is the way to go, but I say that he is just introducing another way to play the game. We all choose to play this game, and we get play it the way we want it. It is not like grinding is against the rules.

You think it is easy for February, a mp3 player to get that much stats and enough xp for those angiens? With the 380k xp cap, it takes extreme patience, time, and a deep understanding of the mechanism of this game to achieve that. I am not saying grinding is good, nor its fun, but come on.. how many mp3 do you know that can defeat those vets?
Only February…. So that is something.
He might not have done it the way you expect him to, and why should he if he does not like your way.

Hell how many mp4s or even mp5s do you know that can defeat those players? Not much. It is amazing that an mp3 is able to achieve that level of skill.

And to those who think the pictures that nad posted are considered spoilers... o come on. Are you kidding me? They are just pictures of some crits, I mean it does not even tell you what kind of creature is it, nor does it tell you what the creatures can do. They are just pictures for god’s sakes. To new players…they are no more than a glimpse of what is the future of this game has to offer. Those creatures can motivate new mp3s to keep playing.
But if the pictures are really too much for you, then I honestly do not know what to say, except that it is ridiculous. Or is that too much of a spoiler for you ?

And lastly to those who says they are not impressed, Nad and feb are not trying to impress anyone. I doubt they even care what you vets think. The real reason they made this post is to motivate the relatively new players. That the fighting system in this game is not just about losing and skill damage, if they work hard enough, they do not have to hide or kill off their creatures to avoid skill damage, because victories can be achieved. A mp3 defeating mp5 vets is the best example of that.

So before you give me those negative reps, think deep down why you are doing it.

I dont get it. Why is everybody, especially the vets, being so negative about this post? Is it so bad that you got your asses kicked by a mp3? Is it because you always have to be the over powered ones? Maybe it hurted your feelings when February defeated your creatures? You vets should know better than any1 that losing is a part of this game, a very important part too. So why are you all treating this post so negatively?

You may say that feb is setting a bad example to the new mp3 players that grinding is the way to go, but I say that he is just introducing another way to play the game. We all choose to play this game, and we get play it the way we want it. It is not like grinding is against the rules.

You think it is easy for February, a mp3 player to get that much stats and enough xp for those angiens? With the 380k xp cap, it takes extreme patience, time, and a deep understanding of the mechanism of this game to achieve that. I am not saying grinding is good, nor its fun, but come on.. how many mp3 do you know that can defeat those vets?
Only February…. So that is something.
He might not have done it the way you expect him to, and why should he if he does not like your way.

Hell how many mp4s or even mp5s do you know that can defeat those players? Not much. It is amazing that an mp3 is able to achieve that level of skill.

And to those who think the pictures that nad posted are considered spoilers... o come on. Are you kidding me? They are just pictures of some crits, I mean it does not even tell you what kind of creature is it, nor does it tell you what the creatures can do. They are just pictures for god’s sakes. To new players…they are no more than a glimpse of what is the future of this game has to offer. Those creatures can motivate new mp3s to keep playing.
But if the pictures are really too much for you, then I honestly do not know what to say, except that it is ridiculous. Or is that too much of a spoiler for you ?

And lastly to those who says they are not impressed, Nad and feb are not trying to impress anyone. I doubt they even care what you vets think. The real reason they made this post is to motivate the relatively new players. That the fighting system in this game is not just about losing and skill damage, if they work hard enough, they do not have to hide or kill off their creatures to avoid skill damage, because victories can be achieved. A mp3 defeating mp5 vets is the best example of that.

So before you give me those negative reps, think deep down why you are doing it.

The reason I made my post is to try to make you people see the whole thing differently, but I see some of you still insisting on looking everything from your own perspective. If only you would allow yourself to see if from a different view point.
Is it gloating? Or is it motivating?

How often do you see mp3 defeat mp5 vets? Even with burst.. you don’t think its something? The amount of work needed to be able to do that is unspeakable.

Feb made the seemingly impossible possible, and all of you decide to regard it negatively. Why do you have such a huge problem with it? Ok, grinding is discouraging. I myself don’t like it either, but it is possible. The game made it possible.

If you really don’t like it, then you shouldn’t be mad at Feb, you should be mad at the game.

I do not have the time to address every1 individually, but the above is the reason I made the post.

And the fact that I disagree with you all is the real reason you gave me neg rep. Same reason you wont look at the whole thing differently. Try to be more open minded.

edit: fixed some spelling problem

I dont get it. Why is everybody, especially the vets, being so negative about this post? Is it so bad that you got your asses kicked by a mp3? Is it because you always have to be the over powered ones? Maybe it hurted your feelings when February defeated your creatures? You vets should know better than any1 that losing is a part of this game, a very important part too. So why are you all treating this post so negatively?

You may say that feb is setting a bad example to the new mp3 players that grinding is the way to go, but I say that he is just introducing another way to play the game. We all choose to play this game, and we get play it the way we want it. It is not like grinding is against the rules.

You think it is easy for February, a mp3 player to get that much stats and enough xp for those angiens? With the 380k xp cap, it takes extreme patience, time, and a deep understanding of the mechanism of this game to achieve that. I am not saying grinding is good, nor its fun, but come on.. how many mp3 do you know that can defeat those vets?
Only February…. So that is something.
He might not have done it the way you expect him to, and why should he if he does not like your way.

Hell how many mp4s or even mp5s do you know that can defeat those players? Not much. It is amazing that an mp3 is able to achieve that level of skill.

And to those who think the pictures that nad posted are considered spoilers... o come on. Are you kidding me? They are just pictures of some crits, I mean it does not even tell you what kind of creature is it, nor does it tell you what the creatures can do. They are just pictures for god’s sakes. To new players…they are no more than a glimpse of what is the future of this game has to offer. Those creatures can motivate new mp3s to keep playing.
But if the pictures are really too much for you, then I honestly do not know what to say, except that it is ridiculous. Or is that too much of a spoiler for you ?

And lastly to those who says they are not impressed, Nad and feb are not trying to impress anyone. I doubt they even care what you vets think. The real reason they made this post is to motivate the relatively new players. That the fighting system in this game is not just about losing and skill damage, if they work hard enough, they do not have to hide or kill off their creatures to avoid skill damage, because victories can be achieved. A mp3 defeating mp5 vets is the best example of that.

So before you give me those negative reps, think deep down why you are doing it.

I dont get it. Why is everybody, especially the vets, being so negative about this post? Is it so bad that you got your asses kicked by a mp3? Is it because you always have to be the over powered ones? Maybe it hurted your feelings when February defeated your creatures? You vets should know better than any1 that losing is a part of this game, a very important part too. So why are you all treating this post so negatively?

You may say that feb is setting a bad example to the new mp3 players that grinding is the way to go, but I say that he is just introducing another way to play the game. We all choose to play this game, and we get play it the way we want it. It is not like grinding is against the rules.

You think it is easy for February, a mp3 player to get that much stats and enough xp for those angiens? With the 380k xp cap, it takes extreme patience, time, and a deep understanding of the mechanism of this game to achieve that. I am not saying grinding is good, nor its fun, but come on.. how many mp3 do you know that can defeat those vets?
Only February…. So that is something.
He might not have done it the way you expect him to, and why should he if he does not like your way.

Hell how many mp4s or even mp5s do you know that can defeat those players? Not much. It is amazing that an mp3 is able to achieve that level of skill.

And to those who think the pictures that nad posted are considered spoilers... o come on. Are you kidding me? They are just pictures of some crits, I mean it does not even tell you what kind of creature is it, nor does it tell you what the creatures can do. They are just pictures for god’s sakes. To new players…they are no more than a glimpse of what is the future of this game has to offer. Those creatures can motivate new mp3s to keep playing.
But if the pictures are really too much for you, then I honestly do not know what to say, except that it is ridiculous. Or is that too much of a spoiler for you ?

And lastly to those who says they are not impressed, Nad and feb are not trying to impress anyone. I doubt they even care what you vets think. The real reason they made this post is to motivate the relatively new players. That the fighting system in this game is not just about losing and skill damage, if they work hard enough, they do not have to hide or kill off their creatures to avoid skill damage, because victories can be achieved. A mp3 defeating mp5 vets is the best example of that.

So before you give me those negative reps, think deep down why you are doing it.

The reason I made my post is to try to make you people see the whole thing differently, but I see some of you still insisting on looking everything from your own perspective. If only you would allow yourself to see if from a different view point.
Is it gloating? Or is it motivating?

How often do you see mp3 defeat mp5 vets? Even with burst.. you don’t think its something? The amount of work needed to be able to do that is unspeakable.

Feb made the seemingly impossible possible, and all of you decide to regard it negatively. Why do you have such a huge problem with it? Ok, grinding is discouraging. I myself don’t like it either, but it is possible. The game made it possible.

If you really don’t like it, then you shouldn’t be mad at Feb, you should be mad at the game.

I do not have the time to address every1 individually, but the above is the reason I made the post.

And the fact that I disagree with you all is the real reason you gave me neg rep. Same reason you wont look at the whole thing differently. Try to be more open minded.

edit: fixed some spelling problem

I dont get it. Why is everybody, especially the vets, being so negative about this post? Is it so bad that you got your asses kicked by a mp3? Is it because you always have to be the over powered ones? Maybe it hurted your feelings when February defeated your creatures? You vets should know better than any1 that losing is a part of this game, a very important part too. So why are you all treating this post so negatively?

You may say that feb is setting a bad example to the new mp3 players that grinding is the way to go, but I say that he is just introducing another way to play the game. We all choose to play this game, and we get play it the way we want it. It is not like grinding is against the rules.

You think it is easy for February, a mp3 player to get that much stats and enough xp for those angiens? With the 380k xp cap, it takes extreme patience, time, and a deep understanding of the mechanism of this game to achieve that. I am not saying grinding is good, nor its fun, but come on.. how many mp3 do you know that can defeat those vets?
Only February…. So that is something.
He might not have done it the way you expect him to, and why should he if he does not like your way.

Hell how many mp4s or even mp5s do you know that can defeat those players? Not much. It is amazing that an mp3 is able to achieve that level of skill.

And to those who think the pictures that nad posted are considered spoilers... o come on. Are you kidding me? They are just pictures of some crits, I mean it does not even tell you what kind of creature is it, nor does it tell you what the creatures can do. They are just pictures for god’s sakes. To new players…they are no more than a glimpse of what is the future of this game has to offer. Those creatures can motivate new mp3s to keep playing.
But if the pictures are really too much for you, then I honestly do not know what to say, except that it is ridiculous. Or is that too much of a spoiler for you ?

And lastly to those who says they are not impressed, Nad and feb are not trying to impress anyone. I doubt they even care what you vets think. The real reason they made this post is to motivate the relatively new players. That the fighting system in this game is not just about losing and skill damage, if they work hard enough, they do not have to hide or kill off their creatures to avoid skill damage, because victories can be achieved. A mp3 defeating mp5 vets is the best example of that.

So before you give me those negative reps, think deep down why you are doing it.

The reason I made my post is to try to make you people see the whole thing differently, but I see some of you still insisting on looking everything from your own perspective. If only you would allow yourself to see if from a different view point.
Is it gloating? Or is it motivating?

How often do you see mp3 defeat mp5 vets? Even with burst.. you don’t think its something? The amount of work needed to be able to do that is unspeakable.

Feb made the seemingly impossible possible, and all of you decide to regard it negatively. Why do you have such a huge problem with it? Ok, grinding is discouraging. I myself don’t like it either, but it is possible. The game made it possible.

If you really don’t like it, then you shouldn’t be mad at Feb, you should be mad at the game.

I do not have the time to address every1 individually, but the above is the reason I made the post.

And the fact that I disagree with you all is the real reason you gave me neg rep. Same reason you wont look at the whole thing differently. Try to be more open minded.

edit: fixed some spelling problem

I dont get it. Why is everybody, especially the vets, being so negative about this post? Is it so bad that you got your asses kicked by a mp3? Is it because you always have to be the over powered ones? Maybe it hurted your feelings when February defeated your creatures? You vets should know better than any1 that losing is a part of this game, a very important part too. So why are you all treating this post so negatively?

You may say that feb is setting a bad example to the new mp3 players that grinding is the way to go, but I say that he is just introducing another way to play the game. We all choose to play this game, and we get play it the way we want it. It is not like grinding is against the rules.

You think it is easy for February, a mp3 player to get that much stats and enough xp for those angiens? With the 380k xp cap, it takes extreme patience, time, and a deep understanding of the mechanism of this game to achieve that. I am not saying grinding is good, nor its fun, but come on.. how many mp3 do you know that can defeat those vets?
Only February…. So that is something.
He might not have done it the way you expect him to, and why should he if he does not like your way.

Hell how many mp4s or even mp5s do you know that can defeat those players? Not much. It is amazing that an mp3 is able to achieve that level of skill.

And to those who think the pictures that nad posted are considered spoilers... o come on. Are you kidding me? They are just pictures of some crits, I mean it does not even tell you what kind of creature is it, nor does it tell you what the creatures can do. They are just pictures for god’s sakes. To new players…they are no more than a glimpse of what is the future of this game has to offer. Those creatures can motivate new mp3s to keep playing.
But if the pictures are really too much for you, then I honestly do not know what to say, except that it is ridiculous. Or is that too much of a spoiler for you ?

And lastly to those who says they are not impressed, Nad and feb are not trying to impress anyone. I doubt they even care what you vets think. The real reason they made this post is to motivate the relatively new players. That the fighting system in this game is not just about losing and skill damage, if they work hard enough, they do not have to hide or kill off their creatures to avoid skill damage, because victories can be achieved. A mp3 defeating mp5 vets is the best example of that.

So before you give me those negative reps, think deep down why you are doing it.

[quote name='Eon' timestamp='1282876588' post='67108']
We don't see any mp3's other than February beating mp5's because most players want to experience all the game has to offer and not stay at the lowest level for over an entire year.
[/quote]

Yes, i myself is an mp4, because I want to experience MP. And Feb doesnt want to advance because he wants to be the overpowered mp3. We all play this game the way we want to, can't you accept that?

The reason I made my post is to try to make you people see the whole thing differently, but I see some of you still insisting on looking everything from your own perspective. If only you would allow yourself to see if from a different view point.
Is it gloating? Or is it motivating?

How often do you see mp3 defeat mp5 vets? Even with burst.. you don’t think its something? The amount of work needed to be able to do that is unspeakable.

Feb made the seemingly impossible possible, and all of you decide to regard it negatively. Why do you have such a huge problem with it? Ok, grinding is discouraging. I myself don’t like it either, but it is possible. The game made it possible.

If you really don’t like it, then you shouldn’t be mad at Feb, you should be mad at the game.

I do not have the time to address every1 individually, but the above is the reason I made the post.

And the fact that I disagree with you all is the real reason you gave me neg rep. Same reason you wont look at the whole thing differently. Try to be more open minded.

edit: fixed some spelling problem

I dont get it. Why is everybody, especially the vets, being so negative about this post? Is it so bad that you got your asses kicked by a mp3? Is it because you always have to be the over powered ones? Maybe it hurted your feelings when February defeated your creatures? You vets should know better than any1 that losing is a part of this game, a very important part too. So why are you all treating this post so negatively?

You may say that feb is setting a bad example to the new mp3 players that grinding is the way to go, but I say that he is just introducing another way to play the game. We all choose to play this game, and we get play it the way we want it. It is not like grinding is against the rules.

You think it is easy for February, a mp3 player to get that much stats and enough xp for those angiens? With the 380k xp cap, it takes extreme patience, time, and a deep understanding of the mechanism of this game to achieve that. I am not saying grinding is good, nor its fun, but come on.. how many mp3 do you know that can defeat those vets?
Only February…. So that is something.
He might not have done it the way you expect him to, and why should he if he does not like your way.

Hell how many mp4s or even mp5s do you know that can defeat those players? Not much. It is amazing that an mp3 is able to achieve that level of skill.

And to those who think the pictures that nad posted are considered spoilers... o come on. Are you kidding me? They are just pictures of some crits, I mean it does not even tell you what kind of creature is it, nor does it tell you what the creatures can do. They are just pictures for god’s sakes. To new players…they are no more than a glimpse of what is the future of this game has to offer. Those creatures can motivate new mp3s to keep playing.
But if the pictures are really too much for you, then I honestly do not know what to say, except that it is ridiculous. Or is that too much of a spoiler for you ?

And lastly to those who says they are not impressed, Nad and feb are not trying to impress anyone. I doubt they even care what you vets think. The real reason they made this post is to motivate the relatively new players. That the fighting system in this game is not just about losing and skill damage, if they work hard enough, they do not have to hide or kill off their creatures to avoid skill damage, because victories can be achieved. A mp3 defeating mp5 vets is the best example of that.

So before you give me those negative reps, think deep down why you are doing it.

[quote name='Eon' timestamp='1282876588' post='67108']
We don't see any mp3's other than February beating mp5's because most players want to experience all the game has to offer and not stay at the lowest level for over an entire year.
[/quote]

Yes, i myself is an mp4, because I want to experience MP. And Feb doesnt want to advance because he wants to be the overpowered mp3. We all play this game the way we want to, can't you accept that?

The reason I made my post is to try to make you people see the whole thing differently, but I see some of you still insisting on looking everything from your own perspective. If only you would allow yourself to see if from a different view point.
Is it gloating? Or is it motivating?

How often do you see mp3 defeat mp5 vets? Even with burst.. you don’t think its something? The amount of work needed to be able to do that is unspeakable.

Feb made the seemingly impossible possible, and all of you decide to regard it negatively. Why do you have such a huge problem with it? Ok, grinding is discouraging. I myself don’t like it either, but it is possible. The game made it possible.

If you really don’t like it, then you shouldn’t be mad at Feb, you should be mad at the game.

I do not have the time to address every1 individually, but the above is the reason I made the post.

And the fact that I disagree with you all is the real reason you gave me neg rep. Same reason you wont look at the whole thing differently. Try to be more open minded.

edit: fixed some spelling problem

I dont get it. Why is everybody, especially the vets, being so negative about this post? Is it so bad that you got your asses kicked by a mp3? Is it because you always have to be the over powered ones? Maybe it hurted your feelings when February defeated your creatures? You vets should know better than any1 that losing is a part of this game, a very important part too. So why are you all treating this post so negatively?

You may say that feb is setting a bad example to the new mp3 players that grinding is the way to go, but I say that he is just introducing another way to play the game. We all choose to play this game, and we get play it the way we want it. It is not like grinding is against the rules.

You think it is easy for February, a mp3 player to get that much stats and enough xp for those angiens? With the 380k xp cap, it takes extreme patience, time, and a deep understanding of the mechanism of this game to achieve that. I am not saying grinding is good, nor its fun, but come on.. how many mp3 do you know that can defeat those vets?
Only February…. So that is something.
He might not have done it the way you expect him to, and why should he if he does not like your way.

Hell how many mp4s or even mp5s do you know that can defeat those players? Not much. It is amazing that an mp3 is able to achieve that level of skill.

And to those who think the pictures that nad posted are considered spoilers... o come on. Are you kidding me? They are just pictures of some crits, I mean it does not even tell you what kind of creature is it, nor does it tell you what the creatures can do. They are just pictures for god’s sakes. To new players…they are no more than a glimpse of what is the future of this game has to offer. Those creatures can motivate new mp3s to keep playing.
But if the pictures are really too much for you, then I honestly do not know what to say, except that it is ridiculous. Or is that too much of a spoiler for you ?

And lastly to those who says they are not impressed, Nad and feb are not trying to impress anyone. I doubt they even care what you vets think. The real reason they made this post is to motivate the relatively new players. That the fighting system in this game is not just about losing and skill damage, if they work hard enough, they do not have to hide or kill off their creatures to avoid skill damage, because victories can be achieved. A mp3 defeating mp5 vets is the best example of that.

So before you give me those negative reps, think deep down why you are doing it.

I dont get it. Why is everybody, especially the vets, being so negative about this post? Is it so bad that you got your asses kicked by a mp3? Is it because you always have to be the over powered ones? Maybe it hurted your feelings when February defeated your creatures? You vets should know better than any1 that losing is a part of this game, a very important part too. So why are you all treating this post so negatively?

You may say that feb is setting a bad example to the new mp3 players that grinding is the way to go, but I say that he is just introducing another way to play the game. We all choose to play this game, and we get play it the way we want it. It is not like grinding is against the rules.

You think it is easy for February, a mp3 player to get that much stats and enough xp for those angiens? With the 380k xp cap, it takes extreme patience, time, and a deep understanding of the mechanism of this game to achieve that. I am not saying grinding is good, nor its fun, but come on.. how many mp3 do you know that can defeat those vets?
Only February…. So that is something.
He might not have done it the way you expect him to, and why should he if he does not like your way.

Hell how many mp4s or even mp5s do you know that can defeat those players? Not much. It is amazing that an mp3 is able to achieve that level of skill.

And to those who think the pictures that nad posted are considered spoilers... o come on. Are you kidding me? They are just pictures of some crits, I mean it does not even tell you what kind of creature is it, nor does it tell you what the creatures can do. They are just pictures for god’s sakes. To new players…they are no more than a glimpse of what is the future of this game has to offer. Those creatures can motivate new mp3s to keep playing.
But if the pictures are really too much for you, then I honestly do not know what to say, except that it is ridiculous. Or is that too much of a spoiler for you ?

And lastly to those who says they are not impressed, Nad and feb are not trying to impress anyone. I doubt they even care what you vets think. The real reason they made this post is to motivate the relatively new players. That the fighting system in this game is not just about losing and skill damage, if they work hard enough, they do not have to hide or kill off their creatures to avoid skill damage, because victories can be achieved. A mp3 defeating mp5 vets is the best example of that.

So before you give me those negative reps, think deep down why you are doing it.

I dont get it. Why is everybody, especially the vets, being so negative about this post? Is it so bad that you got your asses kicked by a mp3? Is it because you always have to be the over powered ones? Maybe it hurted your feelings when February defeated your creatures? You vets should know better than any1 that losing is a part of this game, a very important part too. So why are you all treating this post so negatively?

You may say that feb is setting a bad example to the new mp3 players that grinding is the way to go, but I say that he is just introducing another way to play the game. We all choose to play this game, and we get play it the way we want it. It is not like grinding is against the rules.

You think it is easy for February, a mp3 player to get that much stats and enough xp for those angiens? With the 380k xp cap, it takes extreme patience, time, and a deep understanding of the mechanism of this game to achieve that. I am not saying grinding is good, nor its fun, but come on.. how many mp3 do you know that can defeat those vets?
Only February…. So that is something.
He might not have done it the way you expect him to, and why should he if he does not like your way.

Hell how many mp4s or even mp5s do you know that can defeat those players? Not much. It is amazing that an mp3 is able to achieve that level of skill.

And to those who think the pictures that nad posted are considered spoilers... o come on. Are you kidding me? They are just pictures of some crits, I mean it does not even tell you what kind of creature is it, nor does it tell you what the creatures can do. They are just pictures for god’s sakes. To new players…they are no more than a glimpse of what is the future of this game has to offer. Those creatures can motivate new mp3s to keep playing.
But if the pictures are really too much for you, then I honestly do not know what to say, except that it is ridiculous. Or is that too much of a spoiler for you ?

And lastly to those who says they are not impressed, Nad and feb are not trying to impress anyone. I doubt they even care what you vets think. The real reason they made this post is to motivate the relatively new players. That the fighting system in this game is not just about losing and skill damage, if they work hard enough, they do not have to hide or kill off their creatures to avoid skill damage, because victories can be achieved. A mp3 defeating mp5 vets is the best example of that.

So before you give me those negative reps, think deep down why you are doing it.

[quote name='Eon' timestamp='1282876588' post='67108']
We don't see any mp3's other than February beating mp5's because most players want to experience all the game has to offer and not stay at the lowest level for over an entire year.
[/quote]

Yes, i myself is an mp4, because I want to experience MP. And Feb doesnt want to advance because he wants to be the overpowered mp3. We all play this game the way we want to, can't you accept that?