Menhir

I would like to start a music thread, with the very simple task: What kind of music are MD infected people are listening? You can use anything possible to give an idea what you like. I will use mostly youtube links. In each post I will list 9 Songs plus 1 special Song. Here the first gathering: [i]something “deep”?[/i] [color="#FF0000"]Tiamat – “Gaia”[/color] www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j4wSdmG0Ew [i]something “dark beautiful”?[/i] [color="#FF0000"]Primordial – “Dark Song”[/color] www.youtube.com/watch?v=F74sVVZxm0k [i]something “true”?[/i] [color="#FF0000"]Shape Of Despair – “Curse Life”[/color] www.youtube.com/watch?v=Grv8rdiQGVk [i]something “fragile”?[/i] [color="#FF0000"]Opeth – “Coil”[/color] www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbubISlLdH8 [i]something “progressive”?[/i] [color="#FF0000"]Deadsoul Tribe – "Spiders & Flies"[/color] www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRSMXvo1NSI [i]something “aggressive”?[/i] [color="#FF0000"]Heaven Shall Burn – “Endzeit”[/color] www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTkZt8r2lko [i]something – “meaningful”?[/i] [color="#FF0000"]Insomnium – “In The Groves Of Death”[/color] www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5bEFTXBMJ8 [i]something “old yet wonderful”?[/i] [color="#FF0000"]Neil Young – “Words Between The Lines Of Age”[/color] www.youtube.com/watch?v=fblRC38_8dI [i]some “masterpiece instrumental”?[/i] [color="#FF0000"]Amorphis – “A Thousand Lakes”[/color] www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nlk5cjs7OXg [i]special song number I[/i] [i](probably the best Band from Rumania)[/i] [color="#006400"]Negură Bunget – "Dacia Hiperboreană"[/color] www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDtk0LaQeM4 Why do I choose this band as first special song appearance? It has something to do with MD coming from Rumania. If you like to understand Negură Bunget there is much more needed then listening to their songs just once. Same with MD. You need alot time to experience all the beauty in it. Same with MD. There is nothing commonly with the band. Same with MD. Not everyone will like their music and only few will truely understand. Same with MD. I could continue. And the second important condition – its my tribute to the genius of one of the most successful exceptional bands in the world. I hope some of you enjoyed this little inside view of my music taste. I´m looking forward so see some awesome lists of yours. Menhir

@Grido quote “It is written...somewhere (probably), that in each of us is god and the devil, and the battle for humankind is within each of us, perhaps those with a different mental make up are more aware of it?” Well ... from my point of view this is one way to see it. I will put it into different words: Everything is inside of us, we are everything! So everything must be us. Some of us are more aware of that “everything” and some are not. We are all unique and at the same time the same. @Luke27 quote “I actually believe that when you are labeled as an "insane" person you are an outcast of society. That's been the case every time.” True. 10 years ago I started my way with raw foods. I was branded as insane from alot people who had not even a glimse of what they were talking about but myself had figured it out by trying not my reading or talking. I went trough whole proccesses only by changing my nutrition and still people tried to convince me that I was totally on the wrong path. I did not try beforehand to convince them of my ”way”, I was not even talking of it, I simply were walking my way. For me it became very simple! There is no “good” or “bad”, nor is there an insane or sane being. We are what we are and everything can change everytime. quote “But what if "insanity" frees us from ourselves and makes us more aware of what is "around us" rather than what is "in front of us"(Sorry if I'm confusing but I don't have the right words for it).” What are you sorry for, you just used the right words! quote “Then would you want to be "insane" or "normal"?” Red or blue! I know for sure that everyone of us is asked this question in every second of our life, we are just not realising that we are answering it every second and so creating everything. quote “Nothing can make you feel more alive than yourselves and nothing else.” That makes me smile, because its what I feel everyday abit more. Thank you for giving me thoughts to think about. @Mur All your research, all your interest´s what are they good for? What are you searching for? I think you thought about that before and came to a conclusion wich keeps you on this “pathway”. So in at least one point you are in the same situation. There is no rest! There is a force inside ourselfs, whatever you call it, in wich way you think of it dosen´t matter at all, it´s there and forces us forward (is it really a movement?). So we are all insane in the eyes of someone who is not at out level. There are many so called "normal" humans out there who, if you compare them, are totally insane for each other. So what is the truth? I still remember a part of an interview made with the indian Advaita – Teacher Ramesh Balsekar (I translate as best as I´m able too): Question: Sometimes you say “It is only a concept, it is not true!” What is the difference between a concept and the Truth? Ramesh Baleskar: “My concept says, whatever anyone said, ever Jesus, Buddha or Ramana Maharshi – is a concept. A concept is something that some peaple will doubt and some will agree with. The Truth from my point of understanding, is something that NONE can deny. Because of this the concepts of one religion are not accepted by another religion. The reason why we have religious wars. Is it possible that there is a ONE TRUTH in the world of appearances? The only undeniable truth for everyone is the impersonal consiousness of being. I am. In the moment someone is talking about this, is can become a concept too.” (connection 4/04 july august 2004 / page 49) So for me your view of this being you meet in the train is your personal concept of the truth at your personal state of evolution. I thank you for sharing this story with us, it remembered me of alot things I discoverd years ago and I looked back the whole way I walked from there. I´m willing to learn the whole time wich is given to me on this planet and I´m open to whatever is out there. Menhir

As far as I understood TTL, it´s not a matter of "having no free time" why he left MD. There is one principle wich works mostly perfect - "Love it or Leave it" wich means (for me) that everyone is free in his/her decision to choose his/her very own way! TTL did it. Applause for being yourself! All the best possible for you TTL (even if we never meet or talked). Menhir

[quote name='Muratus del Mur' timestamp='1310608998' post='87863'] @Menhir, ..why i ask..well because in a vast complexity of questions and answers that sometimes looks like a dark impenetrable "forest", some questions aim to the end of the road in a straight line. While some questions find their answer fast or get lost in a pool of randomness, other questions take you further and reveal much more. I find this particular one (Why the sun?) to be aiming further away than my current borders. Isn't it then just normal to target outside the borders to see what is out there? For me that's a way of life. [/quote] Thank you Mur nice anwser. I´m completely with you in this and have only one thing to add to your reply. The only difference for me in this very moment/phase of my life is that this -> "Isn't it then just normal to target outside the borders to see what is out there?" <- is my ONLY way (only at my momentary level of my personal life). To put it into other words: to leave my own comfort zone and explore the "New", the "Unknown" or I could say to remember the "Forgotten" knowledge wich is hidden deep inside of us, I often need pain and suffering, the so called "bad" experiences to discover what or who I am too! Menhir [quote name='Phantom Orchid' timestamp='1310600807' post='87860'] Eventually, the game is over, all of us will wake up and remember that we are all one single Sun - the One that is all and lives forever and ever. [/quote] This will happen sooner or later and everyone who is working on his multiple fears will conquer the "new land" wich will appear behind our momentary consciousness. [quote name='Phantom Orchid' timestamp='1310600807' post='87860'] Words can only, at best, point beyond themselves to a world of life and death and experiences that are so much more than words in and of themselves. [/quote] thank you! You used them wisely. Menhir

I am a little bit late (travelled through india for the sixth time when Mur startetd this topic) and people might have forgotten his question already, nevertheless I will write something wich crossed my mind when I was reading some of the given answers. The first thing was: "As above So below". Endless people are talking about a light inside ourselfs but you can believe it or find out by yourselfs. I do not believe things - I have to prove them by myself instead. So I started looking and after awhile I saw the Sun inside myself - I saw much more than this mighty pure light but there were so many more things that I had to stop in this particular moment. So I KNOW there is a Sun inside myself, attending the “rest” of the universe. Then I saw the Sun in someone else, well I was not surprised but amazed . “As above So below” – If there is a Sun wich we can see, there must be one inside ourselfs. If there are shades outside ourselfs, there are shades inside ourselfs for sure. Everything wich exist “outside” is automaticly “inside” and there is a point where one can understand (means KNOW) that there is neither an outside nor an inside. Everything is existing and at the same time there is nothing. <- these are just words but it´s possible to have the experience to see/feel/understand, finnaly KNOW that it´s like I try to put into weak words. Why it´s called "Soldiers of the Inner Sun" (if Mur´s questions was referring to the title) I don´t know yet clearly. A soldier from my point of view stands for "fighting" and "war" and there was nothing like "fighting" or "war" combined with my inner sun, but there might be another interpretation of the word "soldier". So the second thing was crawling towards me hiding behind a curtain of mist: If you see something like the Sun and in this case you don´t need to make a difference between inner or outer Sun, if you see it with you own eyes/mind/awareness you are so sure about what you see/experience because that is what you think you are - consciousness/awareness. Are you? Were do you know it from? From the same consciousness? Well ... there is much more beyond this and again I touch it only with words and nothing will help me to explain it with agglutinated letters, but to realise this through real knowing is the most suffusing experience I had so far. So why the Sun? Why <- the most powerful word in the whole universe brings us to neverending questions (I quote Mur here)! If we are trying to explain things with seperated minds you end up with open ends. To answer every question until the end we need to put all ourselfs into it and I mean it word by word. We need our material way of forced living, I use the terms “needs and fears” for this. We need also our so called “spiritual” way of being, that could be everything outside ourself wich we are not really aware of in our daily lifetime, call it soul or whatever you may like to call it. And finally we need our philosophically thinking (understanding) - lets use the words “manly logic”. Each of those three separated from each other will not get anyone to any real conclusion but if one can succeed to put all three together, combine them to a “big one pot”, to a universal understanding and make it useful and possible to evolve to that kind of “new knowledge” (in the end everything is old and at the same time ageless) – if one can do that he/she/it will really KNOW. Well what´s this blubbering all about and why do I write it here and now – I´m nearly always honest – I don´t know! It crossed “my” mind and I put it into those clumsy words above. Why the Sun? Why is Mur asking this question? This is my most sensible question I can ask back and I got many answers for it at the same time . Menhir

My Issue is solved and I think everyone else got out too and the Bug is fixed. A big "Thank you!" to whoever is responsible for bugfixing so fast. Topic can be closed from my point of view.

[quote name='Udgard' timestamp='1310372799' post='87581'] While this is no solution to the bug, you might be able to us jump to leader or other teleportation spells to move out, temporarily solving the trapped problem. Update: seems like this is a global problem. I'm getting the same message on raven's peace and oak fort as well. Teleportation spells work fine, but once I want to move via arrows, I'm stuck. [/quote] I had the same with the arrows but I cleaned cache and it worked, but not in Oak fort. Btw can you teleport me out Udgard?

I have the same problem. I use Opera 11.11 but I tried Google Chrome and Firefox 5.0 too. All end up with the same problem. Menhir