HeHelpedMe

You really took my idea seriously? O_O

I was being a bit sarcastic and I was dreaming of dead horses...

Naha, removing the logout button for a day is just utterly stupid.

But sadly i feel that if such a day were to be implemented, people just wouldnt log i during that time

I would loove such a day but we can't have it cause of a lil' button called logout. Yes, I think we can have a no logout button day (+no sanctuaries) but I think we are asking too much...

maybe you shoul find a way to bring more players to mp5 level...this way everybody can train..and the sancturies would be empty..
...the lack of players is the problem,not the sanctuary areas...

I think this is a great idea, as I suggested it in the mood panel a while back. Thanks for being on the ball and making a post for it, Peace!

I think it will balance out the Day of Tranquility a bit.

Even if some log in just to get their active day counted, they still remain there, sleeping. So it is really one way or another. Do think though what each of us, strong or not, goes through to find targets to train on. With tokens nowadays it is hard indeed to get a win/victory but if we had the ability to attack, even in sactuaries, even for one or two days per month, it would attract the fighters (which I know there are a lot out there) to be more in MD. It may be a silly idea but even those who recently ascended to mp5 have difficulties on developing their combat profiles.

I like the idea.

I think it would be nice to have this two days out of the month considering we have two days for tranquility.

We do have days of tranquility when everybody is safe from attacking. I was thinking if we could have a no sactuary day for the opposite reason.

And if possible to have this just for mp5 if the new players feel threatened.

Share ideas, thoughts, arguments if any.

WARNING: Long post below!!!

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I would agree with most of the things on here, except the bit about MAGIC ctc's, because those are hard to get as it is, and should be allowed to be an exception to the rule. I must also dissagree with no one's suggestion, because lowering creatures like that would cause other problems as well, because you would be reducing the xp of an mp4, to far below the level of an mp3, and that would allow for even more building of powerful creatures at a lower mind power level.
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dude, what ... ?
what do you mean by
- "you would be reducing the xp of an mp4, to far below the level of an mp3"
- "and that would allow for even more building of powerful creatures at a lower mind power level"

"Magic" ctc creature should have the option of "activate" and be left unusable. "Activate" meaning that it will receive the limitation of the current MP, allowing a player to get a max Drach (for example) in MP3 and use it at MP5.

[quote name='HeHelpedMe' timestamp='1294285609' post='76923']
I strongly dislike the idea of that kind of requirement.
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And that should be enough for most of the players. In my opinion, the true problem which leads to alt abuse is the existence of alts.
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Mp3 and mp4 just need to quickly get to mp5 and be farmed and grinded into cat food by the "vets".
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Get serious ppl,

I think this is the only game with no requirements what so ever. This is why a new player start gathering creatures in first week without even understanding what combat means.

The whole creature limitation is for new ppl to learn as a normal player should do and to have a chance to get in touch with all lvl of all creatures.
Also, the limitation will also reduce the gaps between players in same MP (MP3 / MP4).

At this moment MP3s are asking for angiens. Do they know why ? I don't think so, but they've been told that they need some.

NO
THIS MUST BE STOPPED

All players must use the creatures that they can get themselves or use them when they become available.
There are MP4/5 players that don't even know the maxed knator as they never had one.


When this would be implemented , I do agree that a period of time to be given so that MP3s with angiens & max dracs to move to proper MP or to accept the limitations.

Nobody is keeping / forbidding you to stay in lower MPs, but do stay at their level.


Should I remind you about MP4s with 10k attack ? PPL this is for your own good, for MD's future.

More restrictions in MD coming up then...
MD is becoming more and more focused on literally forcing players to get to mp5 instead of letting them enjoy it their own way.
One thing is sure: no matter what you do, you won't be able to force people to play MD.
I'm not going to get to mp5 anyway. If I'm forced to do so against my will I'll simply stop playing MD (like many others did). I guess that I wouldn't be the only person doing so.
But now I'm just going to get rid of my younger Angiens and only keep the oldest as a collector's value.

Trial has ended. Fenrir, as the coward he is, found a way to escape the punishment.

For the moment, topic is closed.

Besides....fenrir is not gone...

It's late evidence but it's still evidence (btw:late as in it is from today).

Fenrir assumes things without checking first. So he accused me of a thing which I did not do:

[attachment=1714:Fenrir_assuming_wrong again.JPG]


It was not me the one to cast the acousticremains (as you can see in the trigger box).And I did not ask Yrth to get the logs either (I still have spells on my own).

And to get another idea of how Fenrir thinks I will attach the log (the one I pulled with my own spell)

[attachment=1713:dlg.spell.acousticremains.php (4).htm]


And more from a topic today:

[quote name='Fenrir Greycloth' date='20 May 2010 - 10:29 AM' timestamp='1274340594' post='60090']

Edit2: And as far as the RL challenge to DST, she does not RP. She is not a "character" she is dst. Through and through. What comes out of dst's mouth is what ever her real name's mouth says.

Therefor, my challenge is in RL.
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Did I need to comment on this? I guess Burns said wit better.
Just check this:
http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/7073-moderators-humans-or-machines/page__st__20

Update:I have sent my part. I have named my witnesses.

However, I wish to say something seeing fenrir's latest mood panel statement
(quote so you'll know what I am referring to:
[quote] Fenrir Greycloth - Anyone that has ever been stalked, harassed by dst, please come forth. This is your chance to put an end to her abuse. [/quote]
)

I am suing fenrir. I am not suing anyone else. I base my statement and proofs of what he did to ME. Not to anyone else! I have proofs of things he did to others but it's not my concern because I am not a lawyer to speak for others. So I expect to see proofs of what I did/say to HIM not to X, Y, Z. If someone else wants to sue me for whatever reasons that someone can do it by herself/himself.
What I am saying basically is that I don't want to see witnesses that come and say: dst did <insert action here> to me. I expect them to say: dst did <insert action here> to FENRIR!

The above statement is for Mur, the jury and for the potential witnesses because I don't know how the trail will go (if I will be able to speak to Mur or any of the jury members).

Everything that has happened has happened in plain sight (aka on the forum). So everyone that has read the forum and especially the topic fenrir dedicated to me is a potential witness. If anyone wants to be a witness please PM me (in game or forum).Nothing has been hidden so basically no witnesses are needed. I am doing this only to comply with the rules.


Thank you,
dst

I shall make a counter claim for harassment, slander, and invasion of privacy.

Good luck dst, I have a real lawyer on my side.

I, dst, am suing fenrir. I am suing him for slander, harassment and threats.

I have sent my petition and part of the print screens already. If necessary, I will post them here also.

But for the moment it is not the case.

I want this thread to be just an announcement. Please don't comment in here. Not now. Since I am directly involved I will not moderate the thread but I will ask the other mods to keep this clean.

Thank you!

[quote name='HeHelpedMe' timestamp='1294285609' post='76923']
I wasn't supposed to post any message in this section again, but... I still care about what happens to MD so here goes.
I strongly dislike the idea of that kind of requirement.
I don't have any alts myself and I'm not going to create one ever. I have only my main account and that's really enough.
And that should be enough for most of the players. In my opinion, the true problem which leads to alt abuse is the existence of alts.
Seriously, how many alts were actually meant for creating another character for role playing needs? 10 percent? Doubt it, probably even less. All the rest is used for storing additional creatures, goofing around and for all kinds of so called "alt abuse".
And now you're planning to mess up the gameplay even more with those restrictions. So me and many other players at mp3 and mp4 levels, who don't have alts and don't abuse any MD rules will have to face the consequences. [b]All the bored mp5s who send their drachs and other monstrosities to their mp3/mp4 alts will be fine, as their mp5 main won't face any restrictions.[/b]
I'm at mp4 and don't want to progress to mp5. I have few Angiens which were obtained legally and I put a lot of time and effort into training them. And now me and other players who don't have any alts are going to be punished with severe creature downgrade because of abuse done by others?
Excellent...
I've noticed that most of the ideas and changes are only mp5 friendly.
[b]Mp3 and mp4 just need to quickly get to mp5 and be farmed and grinded into cat food by the "vets".[/b]
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In response to the bolded statements: I believe the reason the requirements was proposed works two ways: to prevent alts to get monstrous creatures, and to discourage non-alts to stay too long. Alt or no alt, no one is supposed to stay on mp3/mp4 for prolonged time just to get strongest there. MP5 is the fighting stage, people are allowed to stay long on mp3/mp4, but it is not meant to be a fighting stage. People who stay there for prolonged time mostly has two reasons: either they are not focused on the combat aspect of MD, or they want to be kings of mp3/4. The first one, I don't think will object much to the proposed requirements, and for the second: mp3/4 is not a combat stage and you're not supposed to stay there with godlike creatures/stats to pound on newbies anyways.

There is the third one: people who stay there to prepare for the mp5 jungle, but then again that is the reason for the requirements. You're supposed to stay mp4 just for a while, to age/upgrade some creatures to prepare for mp5. Once you've aged your creatures, go and move on to mp5. And no, people are not supposed to wait for their angiens to have max age before going mp5..

I think lately there has been to many illusions of "mp5s/vets only wanting to get more people to move up so they can pound them". The thing is, staying mp3/mp4 for eternity won't help people prepare to fight the "vets". People at mp5 has access to much faster stat growth than an mp3/4 can ever hope for, so the longer people stay there, the wider the gap between power they will have.

And really, what can those so called vets do to pound on fresh mp5s that has actual consequence to those fresh ones? Combat losses are needed for balance, and tree rits easily prevent damage to your main army.

But in reality it should be other way round. Atleast one Maxed angien and a dragon as a requirement for Advancing to MP5 hehe

By no means do i want to discourage general population to be picky about the requirements.
I just asked Mur to take a general stand. Because i want to know if he finds such account inappropriate or not.

I am indeed fairly certain that i won't be able to find a non-alt mp3 with a drachorn, or an angien over lvl 2. You're right that angiens make nice quest rewards, but they most definitely won't reach lvl 3 on a plain, normal mp3 account, simply due to the age requirement on them.

Other than that, no, Kyphis, restricting creatures doesn't make things worse. I have done serious combat for a long, long time, and there is very little in MD that can't be beaten with strategy. But some things, like big angiens or boosted drachorns, require advanced creatures and/or high stats i haven't yet seen on any normal mp4 accounts.
I neither want to restrict diversity, nor collectors, but it seems that very many people lack the common sense some show. It hurts a lot to restrict all over the abuse of a few, but apparently there is no other way to stop a selected few of abusing the mp-system.

I would, by lots, prefer to ban the accounts that receive the monstrous creatures of older accounts. But it seems that this is not an option in the current set of rules, unless it's flawlessly proven that the accounts in question are alts. If you don't believe me, ask the Wookie, he knows them just as well.

[quote name='Tipu' timestamp='1293635806' post='76278']
But plz this rule should only apply for Alt accounts and not for other MP4 players who aren't Alts.
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The rule should be applied to all mp3s and mp4s. No exceptions.

But plz this rule should only apply for Alt accounts and not for other MP4 players who aren't Alts.

We indeed do monitor the trade logs. And it is alt/main abuse imo, you use one old account to benefit the young.
The kind that gets banned immidiately is the alt-abuse Udgard talks about, like Ledah's coin alts. Other pretty abusive things seem to slip through.

Unfortunately, there is no tool to confirm their altness without going through Mur, even when everybody can see that they ARE alts. I regularly meet Chewie in the Log Review Room, the black sheep are known. But taking action against them is fairly hard, because the proof you need to ban them is inaccessible. And seriously, if we bothered Mur with such morons every time, he'd soon kill us all. xD

I agree. I find this to be a great idea!

Totally on board with the idea.

Its motivation for low MPs to level up.