Azrafar

But it didn't happen that way. 
If you want to go into "what if"s then what would have happened if the ghost couldn't be passed when someone got february there? All those who are not as "resourceful" as you would be stuck at the last obelisk. Imagine players standing there, waiting for it to be fixed, to claim the final obelisk. DD may have acted too hastily, but I don't think it actualy damaged the quest. It could have but it didn't. I think we all can learn from this incident, but there is no need for the blame game.
 
 
I didn't say they had to know it was a bug, but it was admittedly not the intended way how they passed. It still makes their complaints seem less valid.

Ok, dst, have you actualy brought february there and tried to pass the ghost the right way? (asuming it worked the same way, like the other ghost I ran into)
 
I know I was trapped by Aeo's ghost with Aeo him self being there. 
 
If you just went and passed the non intended way, then there should be no reason for you complaining about fairness.
 
I have a distinct feeling you are just complaining to make drama (involving DD ofc). Please stop it. When I come to the forums I don't want to see these hate threads you make. 

I said "I dare to say it's not even an exploit". Read my update.
It IS common knowledge. You just don't know how to apply it. Is that my fault that you lack the connections? Or that you lack someone (like I have No one) to enlighten you?

I think its time this thread got closed as its just bickering and the winners have been decided by Mur himself so there is no longer a need to prove DD was wrong and dst was right.

Yes, not a bug, but you reported it as an EXPLOIT. And no, I think not everyone knows the trick you pulled. Don't classify it as common knowledge. 

There is a need for a blame game since the one screwing up is the one recently invested with powers and the one claiming he would never abuse powers or make mistakes.
I repeat:
He interfere with a quest which was not his by altering what was supposed to be the blocking stone of this quest. He didn't do it at the beginning but long after. From what I get the admin powers he got are very...powerful. I don't trust dd not to mess things up and then claim he:
- didn't know
- was a bug he thought to fix it
- is clueless
- lies
- does stuff only to brag and show off
 
 
DIDN'T PLAY FAIR? From what tree have you fallen? The way I passed (actually the way No one passed cause he dragged me) is NOT a bug. It's a thing ANYONE can do if they have the slightest knowledge of...internet browsing.

I accept that MD isn't fair, but dst who didn't play fair shouldn't complain about fairness. Also you say I should deal with the unfair nature of the game, fine, but then why shouldn't dst? She complained about fairness in the first place even when she won, becouse of "what if" reasoning.
 
I know it is a trial run, that is why I don't understand the (over)recation.

But it didn't happen that way. 
If you want to go into "what if"s then what would have happened if the ghost couldn't be passed when someone got february there? All those who are not as "resourceful" as you would be stuck at the last obelisk. Imagine players standing there, waiting for it to be fixed, to claim the final obelisk. DD may have acted too hastily, but I don't think it actualy damaged the quest. It could have but it didn't. I think we all can learn from this incident, but there is no need for the blame game.
 
 
I didn't say they had to know it was a bug, but it was admittedly not the intended way how they passed. It still makes their complaints seem less valid.

Ok, dst, have you actualy brought february there and tried to pass the ghost the right way? (asuming it worked the same way, like the other ghost I ran into)
 
I know I was trapped by Aeo's ghost with Aeo him self being there. 
 
If you just went and passed the non intended way, then there should be no reason for you complaining about fairness.
 
I have a distinct feeling you are just complaining to make drama (involving DD ofc). Please stop it. When I come to the forums I don't want to see these hate threads you make. 

O.o and what on earth gave you the right to modify it then???? What if I make a quest that looks "bugged" to you??? Will you interfere and fix it??? Are you INSANE???

Exactly, you removed it AFTER. And you modified a quest when it was not over. This is why you suck at quests: you have no idea how to handle them. And you took matters into your own hands. And you didn't test before (you never bothered to check if the ghosts are removed in the presence of the player although you are part of the "a25 project"). Or are you there only for the freebies and "reputation" and bragging ?

Like I said earlier, I had no idea who had passed and who hadn't. I came out of idle, saw this http://storenow.net/my/?f=3bb42a5216839012c56e19c1f1f157a9 , saw for myself whether it was true, and then removed them.
 
You are not complaining with any reasoning behind it, really. You'd already 'won' (if I recall correctly) by the time I came out of idle mode and seen the ghosts malfunctioning. So what unfairness are you speaking of? How could anyone else get the 'freebies' if you, and No one/SS for that matter, had already won?
 
Yes, if someone had ended up winning before you, due to my removing the ghosts, then you had a right to call it unfair. But as things went, I really don't see any basis behind your accusation.

And it wasn't unfair for me, No one and SS? Didn't you think that if we passed there must be a way? So you just decided: freebies for everyone since some idiots (meaning me and No one, SS is excluded :P) that I hate already passed so why bother? Besides you were happy I didn't win so screw the quest!

Ahahahahahaha!!! This coming from a former LHO who was supposed to KNOW how to at least spot and REPORT bugs. Again GG!!!

But you had the nerve to contradict me. And to jump to wrong  conclusions.
 
You thought it was a bug but you had no confirmation from the one who placed the ghosts in the first place. And you STILL took the decision to alter some scenes IN THE MIDDLE OF A QUEST! Nicely done dd!  That shows how mature and knowledgeable you are.GG!

umm dst..you passed february by using a bug..wasn't part of the plan..so what dd did was just normal. I thought at first he removed february's ghost for no reason, but i totally forgot about that bug.
 
Point is..if you are telling a story, tell the full story.

Last obelisk could not be access by normal means (unless you had a bring in to summon february but even with that I still don't know if it would have worked).
 
Also, after both me and SS got pass february's ghost, DD removed the avatar covering the scene. Which I find it highly unfair.
 
Now, about shop skills: this has been done before: this is how me, No one and Eon got enough gardening skills to be able to get the buckets.
 
 
@Clock: by the time you posted on mood panel that you're after 13th, I already had 14.

I told you the whole story but not on the forum since I do agree that how I pass it was not how it was meant to be. But that's not a bug. You hid the arrow but the action remained. So I call it an exploit (which I reported).
 
And don't take dd's side even if he's your pet. You said it yourself that the way to remove february is to bring him there or impersonate him. Both me and SS used our MD knowledge to bypass that obstacle. After we managed, he removed the avy for the rest. You find that fair? I don't.

I brought Aeo to the location where Aeo's ghost was, but Aeo's ghost still remained and was blocking the arrow even in Aeo's presence. Hence I thought it was a bug, and immediately removed both ghosts as soon as I saw this happening.
 
I had absolutely no idea who had passed the ghosts and who hadn't, at whatever times. I don't know a thing about this. I can swear to this.
 
 
 
Further edit: I'd spoken to Mur already a long time ago about having the ghosts removed since they just didn't suit the Labyrinth imo. They've been here for quite a while and were forgotten. Imo they weren't supposed to be part of this 'quest' (as obstacles) in any way.

I think 1000 or 777 AP is way too huge a boost. It makes Necro or GG gates completely redundant, for example.
 
I strongly suggest that they be reduced to 400 max, nothing more, if they are to remain in the first place. And, they should be spread out evenly (there are 2 in Loreroot, just 4 scenes away from each other...)

There is no specific deadline yet. Consider the quest will run for a month (as of today) at least, unless someone else figures out the names I'm looking for really quickly.

I'll try it. Is there a deadline?

UPDATE 2!!!
Bonus stage now running. Read post at the bottom. Deadline: 8th February 2015, 23:59 ST.
 
I'll keep it short.
 
Your goal in order to complete this quest is the following: Find 5 names according to the details given below.
There are 5 short poems located in 5 different locations across the realm which will give a clue as to either the name, tag or a popular spellword used by the respective person.
 
For clarity, here are the stages:
1. Find the 5 locations.
2. Find the words which reveal the poem at each location.
3. Read and interpret the poems.
4. Send the details to me (via forum PM), as such: Scene - Clickable name (or description) - Key Word - Player Name.
 
ATTENTION!
There is an INSTANT win clause. Solve the following puzzle and you win the first prize immediately, regardless of the progress of the other participants. The only clue I can give is that each line of the puzzle may or may not be connected to the rest.
 
Puzzle:
KUL NARAD
URR MASACHEVI
EMIC GARGATUA
UCI KIMINATCHA
TOK JUGRAMA
 
REWARDS (provided by the TKs)
1st prize: Nutcracker
2nd prize: 2 Gold Coins
3rd prize: 1 Gold Coin
 
 
CLUES
I will post (and update) clues as to where these locations are and what their key words are. NOTE that is ALLOWED for you to come and ask me in-game for clues. I will only answer public requests (no PMs, so when you ask consider that someone else may find out the clue too!) and I will not allow chat-spamming to clear it and the use of any chat distorter will disqualify you (from the instant win clause too). I reserve the right to award clues as I see fit. I will label with L clues to locations and with W clues to keywords.
I will provide additional clues in this post if it is deemed that it is too difficult to progress.
 
BASE CLUES:
1. Clear water (L).
2. What is it that my knife cannot cut? (W).
3. Sword (L).
4. I bring about change. (W).
5. Shelter (L).
6. What am I to a heretic? (W).
7. What treasures do I hide? (L).
8. Keeps home warm (W).
9. Fountain (L).
10. I am mystery (W).
 
New Clues:
1. All the players you are looking for have also written on my PL.
2. There are no clickables (for this quest) in Necro, GG, or the Laby.
 
PARTICIPANTS: (post below if you wish to participate and I will list your name here.)
 
1. Hiria
2. Lintara
3. Asthir
4. Azrafar
5. DD (?)
6. Intrigue

What is this? A drama pervention thread? :rolleyes:
 
I am not jealous. I know others might be, but jealousy is better kept to one's self.
 
About the work. Well, MD needs work behind the scenes and it requires to be secretive.
I just hope that you can handle it DD. Be careful and good luck.

Why do you assume people are jealous only of rewards?
 
At one point in game, only content left is chat and watching numbers go up. Once player hits that endgame they are crying for work, any kind of it.