dst Posted December 3, 2014 Report Share Posted December 3, 2014 Few words about prison: fights are not possible (this is so players like Crazy Mike would not train on the jailed partners in crime or alts). You cannot use a leash to summon someone from prison (thanks to fang who used this method). You cannot use jump to leader (no idea who to thank . You cannot use your normal tele spells (thanks to me I think...but I am not sure...). You cannot trade items away (you cannot receive items since there is no place with the proper tag). I believe the same restriction is applied for crits as well. Exiting cells require high AP. Passing the "gate" again requires high AP but once you pass it you [spoiler]end up in a dark desolated room.[/spoiler]. @Mur: at one point you had some plans with that gate (to make it the way out probably). There are few ways to escape jail but that will make you a fugitive and we all like to hunt fugitives. Kyphis the Bard and No one 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Muratus del Mur Posted December 4, 2014 Author Root Admin Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 I will take you there in a day or so..i am jist going to sleepaftwr a 48h work marathon. I am dead. I might include a sacrifice altar in prison to act as a heat source....hmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiley Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) I can't help but thinking of heat veins. Do they lead to the jail?? They must actually..hehe. Can we blow it from the bottom. Yeah I am getting all Bonnie and Clyde here. I personally think It should require 2000K or more. I've seen the community raise much more. BFK GUYS!!! Big Fu*&ing KABOOM!! Or more heat actually as it should not be easy. Once the "prisoner" has been freed, viscosity is reduced in the realm by a determined and set amount of time. Edited December 4, 2014 by Kiley Maebius 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Muratus del Mur Posted December 4, 2014 Author Root Admin Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Sorry but your suggestion is too derailed from what actuallt can be done. However...using heat veins to boost heat powered items is very interesting. The prison is lowest place in md reality (without possibility to get any lower .some know why)..same way throne hall is tallest i really think you are all missing the point that it should be melted after a couple of DAYS of effort. NO ONE WILL START TESTS SOON..not the person i wanted as an escape specialist..but..i am playing with fire hehehe Kyphis the Bard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiley Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Actually my thought was the heat has to go somewhere. Heat does not disappear. Does it matter how you blow or melt the gates? What happens to the energy that is released? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipstickz Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 I'll volunteer to test with No one, under the condition that I am removed from jail or given the means to remove myself, at the very latest, seven days from this post. I think my input will be valuable, as someone who doesn't necessarily have lots of time to give MD, nor am I someone who is entirely active even when I do have the time. We can call it the lazy vet control group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Muratus del Mur Posted December 4, 2014 Author Root Admin Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 No one...seriously..if you will continue to write long posts with tech data i will start ignoring you totally, even see if there is a way to hide your posts so they wont bother me at all. I don't mean this to be insluting, i know you put a lot of effort in that, but your posts are absolutely unreadable for me. I had to use intuition and red 2-3 lines of what you wrote..thats all...i have no ideea what you said there, i hope the test results in the prison will be much shorter or i will have to do the test again with someone else. Please understand i am trying to improve our communication (or end it). pip, totally agree, you would be an average character to test this thing. so no one, do your best, then pip i take you there too and you see how much it will take you to do the same or similar. Ary Endleg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rophs Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Would prisoners then be CTC restricted? dst 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ary Endleg Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 No one...seriously..if you will continue to write long posts with tech data i will start ignoring you totally HA! Just recently you said that you want everything fully documented yet you shun away the very first entry. Would prisoners then be CTC restricted? What does it matter? Creat gained with CTC won't give you heat when sacced. Muratus del Mur and dst 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myth Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 What does it matter? Creat gained with CTC won't give you heat when sacced. Why not? Newly aquired creatures do, having no won battles or heat on them... why wouldn't CTC aquired ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ary Endleg Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Because if they did give heat, I could tell 5 of my friends to keep recruiting aramors and passing them to me with ctc, I would be gaining 20k loyalty a day without doing "anything". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No one Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Would prisoners then be CTC restricted? Actually, due to some abuses, the jailed ppl were restricted in passing creatures. (as I remember) To prevent further abuses, any kind of transfers to/from jail should be forbidden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dst Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) Actually, due to some abuses, the jailed ppl were restricted in passing creatures. (as I remember) To prevent further abuses, any kind of transfers to/from jail should be forbidden. Transfers are forbidden last time I check but you have now the opportunity to check for yourself :D Edited December 4, 2014 by dst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Muratus del Mur Posted December 4, 2014 Author Root Admin Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 AWAITING first escape attempt,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No one Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 AWAITING first escape attempt,, Report is awaiting you by PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipstickz Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 (edited) My escape attempt consisted of wandering around until I got stuck in a cell without enough AP to get out. The means with which to gather heat are very limited. So far the only thing that has actually given me some is upgrading a creature, since I have no items that I could use. Taking steps gave me negative heat, which is due to the viscosity and this change, which I'd forgotten about: http://magicduel.com/page/Announcement/view/1914 To summarize, the only way I can think to break out is if I had prepared with certain items, or fighting if that's possible. Edited December 5, 2014 by Pipstickz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ary Endleg Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 That doesn't affect No Homelands, they gain heat per step regardless of lands. However it's still influenced by viscosity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Muratus del Mur Posted December 5, 2014 Author Root Admin Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 so, 10-15k as no one suggested? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ary Endleg Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 (edited) Normally yes. However this does give a clear advantage to people with certain consumables (heatstones, candies, cakes, tea) high brisk (maybe even mediocre briskness) with AP/interval items will do quick work on the jail. Also there are stuff in temporary boost shop that give heat :D 10k would be fair for people without such things, but to those that have it, it's easy ticket home. But that's realistic afterall, people with money always evade jail IRL. Edited December 5, 2014 by Ary Endleg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Muratus del Mur Posted December 6, 2014 Author Root Admin Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 its funny you think what should be FAIR for an inmate to evade. I just want it at the border of "possible but not probable" Getting out with trade power from jail is ok, much better than getting out with raw force I shall adjust the gate heat to something...not saying what :P but thats not all. Thanks for the test, pm me if you need to be taken out from there (lab rats only :P ) Kyphis the Bard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARK DEMON Posted December 6, 2014 Report Share Posted December 6, 2014 Mur, 10k is nothing for someone with erolin orbs. MINIMUM 30k IMO. Wouldn't many people be able to put in heat to melt the gate to meet the required amount together? If that's the case then even 30k is a bit less Ary Endleg and dst 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Muratus del Mur Posted December 7, 2014 Author Root Admin Report Share Posted December 7, 2014 ok...this requires for the next step in heat management :D i have an ideea, ..secret for now :D thank you all . this topic can be closed now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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