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Want a counter Poppitz? Easy: we can force mp3s and mp4s to move up. Especially the fighters. So see? It's not that safe unfortunately...

[quote name='MRHoly One' date='04 June 2010 - 09:57 PM' timestamp='1275677863' post='61018'] I don't attack because I'm respecting the rules and other players. I want it open because I like the training. [/quote] So...let me understand:you don't care about GGG but you care about people. How is that? Cause GGG IS people. Without people it would be the same as <Insert scene name here so you'll not say I am not a democratic person >

You have ways of punishing them. Why don't you use them? And what you say it's true (you don't care about GGG) why are you arguing? (and the reason you gave me is not valid...enough).

[quote name='MRHoly One' date='04 June 2010 - 09:10 PM' timestamp='1275675018' post='61008'] I just can't stand the outright and blatant disregard for other players that is going on ATM. [/quote] What blatant disregard? Just because I do not agree with something does that make me disrespectful? You really lost me here...

[quote name='MRHoly One' date='04 June 2010 - 08:49 PM' timestamp='1275673797' post='61004'] Like i stated earlier, my 2 year old does this say exact thing: kicks and screams, cries, does everything in his power to may everyone else around him uncomfortable until we cave in and give him his way. [/quote] And I bet that in 90% of cases you do cave in. Anyway question is: what do you prefer? Screaming and yelling or the silent "breaking" stuff? Cause I can do both. And trust me:if I do the silent breaking...nobody will know it was me. And I am not bragging.

Bah! You really don't get it, don't you? The thread was made so we could discuss things. Not to whine, not to cry , not to nothing (yeah..bad grammar ). Tell me phantasm, what will you do if all the players mentioned in your post+me come to GGG and attack everyone? You send us to GoC, right? What happens when we return? You do the same. What happens when you run out of casts on your object? For this I have no answer. And I bet you have none also. You want a solution? I already gave you one. Break GGG. Split it. Funny stuff:me Indyra AND Ailith are the only women that posted here LE:*sits in the corner of shame for forgetting about Ailith*

Ok. So we do a poll. Who will vote? The mp3s? mp4s? Ok. So we do a poll. You win and GGG stays. How will you protect it? Ok. So we do a poll. I win and GGG is closed. Can you guarantee there will not start a new GGG? You really don't get it. If I or No one wanted to destroy the GGG we would have not started the thread. You simply can't stop us from doing it if we would want to. But if we were to do it then you'll scream and yell that we are being unreasonable. Yes, it is a community project. That's why it's even harder to maintain it. We, as a community should be dealing with the problem. But no! You run to Mur and ask for his support. Typical!

You think that's GGG style? Let me tell you a story that happened 2 years ago. Actually it is not a story but a fact: Willow shop was full of players with 1 crit defenses (mostly Santa) or other non-dying crit. Or random (the lazy ones like Glaistig for example). So what you say there has happened quite some time ago. Until some things got changed. All you'll manage to do is inventing hot water. But to be honest, it doesn't bother me at all. As long as I don't see the current GGG "system".

MRHO, you can say my name. I am not afraid. [u]I was the one who accused MRD of abusing his spells.[/u] Cause he send me and others to GG without reason. We were TALKING about destroying GGG. MRD sent us there even if we did nothing. Since when is talking not allowed in MD? Huh? Last time I checked we had chats and all sorts of communication ways. I am not responsible for others' actions. Everyone is free to do whatever they want. With one condition though: [b][u]to be brave enough to support the consequences. [/u][/b] As for Lightsage's behavior hmm...I could give you the answer I received from one of a kings when I complained at one point about Princ: he's a child. He has no idea what he's doing . LS is a child. He knows what he's doing but he is willing to support the consequences. A thing that few players in MD do. I will not encourage nor stop anyone from tempering with GGG. As I said in a previous post: I have my reasons for not attacking players in there and for the moment I will continue like this. GGG is a community started project. It's not Mur's job to interfere. He already did enough for it, don't you think? ps: I have the chat log from yesterday at GOE when we were talking. Also I have some nice print screens of MRD sending us to GG. I want to see proofs of ME attacking players in GGG prior to last night.

That's the point: have multiple training grounds if you wish. Because they will have to survive on their own. No special powers, no special items, no screaming, no yelling. If you are good enough to find a place where nobody can find you and you train there then congratz! But I kind of doubt you'll be able to. I ask for one thing:be able to attack anyone whenever I want (yeah, I hate Sanctuaries also but at least you have total restriction there). The same way as RP-ers are allowed to RP everywhere (they even had extended privileges due to Cutler's AP ) why should fighters be restricted? Want a solution? Don't close GGG: break it

Good morning MD-ers, It is time for me to say few things (yeah...like a woman can say JUST few things). This post will be probably full of spoilers (in case you think they are too many, I will remove some of them; in case you think the spoilers are too big, I will also remove them). Oh...and I might jump from one idea to another since I have to be multitasking right now...ugh... Let's start with this: Why was GGG created? It was created by the MRs FOR the MRs to train stats/crits WITHOUT getting xp. Why did GGG become public? Players pressure. You cannot have a functional place without players support. How can you gain it? By allowing others to join. Was/Is GGG good? Yes and No. Yes - you get uber fast the wins required for crits. You don't get xp so you're not worried about being capped. No - you have few pre-defined rituals: you don't know why they are like this, you don't know how to set other good rituals, you don't know how to set counters (this is mostly for mp3 and mp4). The pre-GGG fighting vets have the knowledge so for them it's not a problem. -you train only 2 stats:attack and defense. This is BAD! Unless you have half a million defense, those 2 stats are useless. And I am not talking about fighting people with tokens.For example: if I were to fight someone with the same attack and def as I have, I would win. Attack and defense are not enough to win. They are necessary but not sufficient. How many new players (and even some of the vets) know this? You say GGG cannot be shut down. Actually it can but not in the way you're thinking (by removing training gatherings). The problem with GGG is the fact that we scream at each other when one of the parties breaks the rules. Right now phantasm has the item to tele people out. Why make such a big fuss over someone who breaks the rules? You have the punishing methods. Personally I don't mind being sent to GoC if i was to break the rules. Same for attacklock and movelock. What bothers me is the screaming and yelling. But hey! I think I can scream louder then you . Another point:DON'T encourage new players to come to GGG. All day long in the Mood Panel I see requests from players to other players to join GGG. That's wrong in sooo many ways! I was asked (and not in the nice way) how I got my stats. I can assure you I did not get them using GGG. [spoiler]Stats are gained through xp. Xp is not what you get in GGG (except from the occasional bursts)[/spoiler] You can't be a good fighter with just attack and def (and occasionally power). And since I don't think I answered the question back then, I will now: I got part of my stats through an exploit which is still being used today but that was somehow fixed by Mur BECAUSE of players like me, No one, Lifeline and few others. It was not a bug (so don't go screaming bug abuser). It was(is) something everyone can do and most important, what everyone can find IF they just stop the mindless "training" and start to actually fight. The issue of new players being slaughtered has been brought up. As someone said: it's a circle. It's also what we call natural selection. There will ALWAYS be someone weaker then you. And let's face it: if you ask a veteran to give you a win or to help you with xp, probably 1 or 2 will say no. Burnsy does a wonderful job with the Fight Club. Take advantage of it and learn something! BFH, LimeThunder is not a new player. He is an alt with more then 6 months age (not active days). And he has well known main . So don't be fooled by the flag or the "activity days". Fryd: You do realize that without the help of Chewett, phantasm and few other VETS, your beloved GGG would not exist? Do you realize that if I and few other vets decide that we want to mess with GGG you cannot stop us? You don't know that the only thing that keeps me from coming there and crash everything is the respect I have for Chewett. I recognize no authority except for Mur. But I do respect some of the players. Chewett is one of them. I will leave modesty aside and say something else:if I were to decide I want to attack players in GGG, I can bet that lots of other players would follow me. Provide you an alternative? Are you serious? You HAVE alternatives! Go out, fight players! RP (ah! another sensitive spot) since you all say MD is an RPG game . Enough for now since I really can't put my ideas in order.

Why just the accounts? Why not the entire MD? They have ways of dealing with the GGG offenders. So why should I not be permitted to stay where I like? I have obeyed the rules of GGG. I have not attacked players in there. I have always announced that I am not set.But today I was accused that "I ALWAYS break rits" in GGG. Why should I keep respecting the rules since you already accused me? @Yrth You say: [quote]Now with regards GGG well if people decide to gater and train that is there choice not your's you dont like it thuff[/quote] Well then I should not be punished for attacking them.I am training also, right? [quote]his is a game were one has the freedom to do prety much what they want within limits and well so far GGG has not broken that limit from what i can see.[/quote] The same thing applies to me. I am free to do pretty much everything. Why am I being punished for attacking players in a scene in the game? [quote]if you are going to start this grinding complains lest go a step further reset all account how about that [/quote] I have complaints regarding RP. Let's remove the chat in MD. What about it? I am too tired right now to rant about this. Maybe tomorrow...

[quote name='Aysun' date='03 June 2010 - 04:29 AM' timestamp='1275528551' post='60835'] @DST: It's all been going on within MD itself, and someone already mentioned Ivorak and the other general knowledge in this thread as it is. [/quote] That may be true BUT since it is a quest and since not everybody is on the same time zone I only think that if you want the quest to be somewhat fair, you should post all the info on the thread (Kyphis posted just part of it which is not that bad). How was I supposed to know what you have discussed amongst yourselves when I was not there? Think about it before writing just for the sake of post count (yeah, I am mean, I know). You are right Tarq: the mystery is only part of the quest.And I know that you'll concentrate more on the RP part (basically on the why question) BUT the fact that I answered 2 out of 3 questions (officially) it's a fact. And you can't ignore it or come with excuses like the ones provided above. Don't worry, I did not do this for the rewards. I already expressed my concerns about the quest but I still hope you'll prove me wrong.

[quote name='Aysun' date='03 June 2010 - 03:19 AM' timestamp='1275524365' post='60831'] *AHEM* @DST: Basically everything you've mentioned we already openly knew, save for the murder weapon which, yes, you seem to have spoiled. It still needs to be sought after, however, and the actual root of the motive has yet to really be revealed, and that's what everyone's been debating about since it happened. So really, you've not provided a great deal of new information. [/quote] *AHEM* that's why you all flocked to post to the forum your findings. Please find a better argument. *AHEM*

What else might be uncovered? The reason probably. Which I don't really expect to be a *cough* bright one. But it will be interesting to see what you can come up with. I am amazed sometimes at what people think. Anyway: good luck with the quest to all contestants. It will be tough to spot the "right" reason. Looking forward to see the results @Amoran: of course you will not admit in a million years I spoiled the fun. Nobody ever thought that I might get involved in a RP event. But I did. I did it my way and that pissed you . And btw: sarcasm doesn't suit you. Try something else.

It is a fun quest. That's why I solved it (partially indeed). But i still have done more then everyone else! I answered 2 of the 3 questions. Tarq, you know I am not interested in the "why" question. That's the least important thing.Mostly because YOU can be creative about it. I mean, even if I was to find the reason I am not sure you would admit it. And I was joking about WP .I don't expect to receive one from anyone for this quest. Mainly because I spoiled part of your fun Secondly because I am not the person "designated" to win this quest. I will be surprised if someone else besides Loreroot people will win it. If I am wrong then I will truly congratulate everyone that designed it. @Darigan:I know more then you think. And I know how to recognize an abuse when I see one. All you did with your questions is just put some more gas on the fire. You think that you know things? Think again dear Darigan. Anyway, it was fun. Thank you.

Ok. I can be creative with the answer but I still believe I was right. She really deserves it. For all the bad wishpoints she gave. And hey! I solved 2/3 of the mystery from the first shot! And I did it before anyone else. I am GOOD! And I am proud of myself! Thankd but keep your pats for others that enjoy being spanked And I also know who has the revive spell! Ha! Eat that!

So...who? Ivorak How? Using an item called Stone Dagger. Why? Cause he can. Cause maybe she deserves it . And I can also tell you at what time he did it 2010-06-02 04:27:xx (I know the second also but I don't want to freak you out ). Now:did I get the wish point for solving the mystery?

To hostility, you answer with hostility. I agree that sometimes you cannot see the forest because of the trees but he brought nothing new. Also he didn't even bothered to read the forum. Maybe the intentions were good but the way he presented the problem...no.

Confirmed: 1 hardcover book.

Happy B-day! May your villainous (no idea if the word exists - spell check says it does or if the one I want) grow even more!

I'm such a noob that I don't even know how to arrange them NOW...

You're out. Next time, please, read the signs and warnings. They are not displayed there for fun.

Boundaries are the thing that keeps me from doing certain things in game (potentially harmful things or at least annoying). Boundaries are the thing that makes me think twice before replying on the forum (well..also common sense ). Without boundaries set by someone or by yourself we would have nothing but chaos. And now back to the subject ([color="#FF0000"][b]btw: this started to be a bit offtopic so I am considering splitting the topic - let me know what you think[/b][/color]). When I think at role playing I think at pretending/playing things you cannot do in real life: be a knight, princess, toilet lion . I even have no problem with the cooking you all do at DQ. I don't like it but I just ignore it. It's innocent and causes no harm. BUT from baking cookies up to giving birth in the game is a HUUGE step. Mur likes the diplomatic way (after all...he has me and Akasha to scream and shout - kidding). He will not tell you into your face that you're stupid. If he does then it means you reached his limits. And why do you think that Mur is ok with giving births? Just cause he didn't do anything about it up till now? [quote]You can either role-play along or you can walk away and do your own thing.[/quote] What if my own thing is to mess with your RP? Isn't that considered RP also? After all...you are the one saying we should have no boundaries Yeah, I think the same in a way. Don't like it, go away. The difference is that if I see something I don't like I do something about it. And I don't even need to do too much. Seems like all I need to do is be there and say 2 sentences [quote]When we let our egos, feelings, and other "real life" issues, become part of the game, then we are setting ourselves up for failure and a world of hurt[/quote] I know: this is directed at me and I will reply accordingly. You'd be surprised how wrong you are. I do have an ego, I admit (and it also gets me into trouble but that's mostly my problem). I do have feelings but I will not stop them cause just so I will not "harm" someone. Why? See the ego thingy . As for real life issues...the most bald moves i've done where when I was feeling the best ever . Failure? I am a winner. I am not afraid of speaking my mind, I don't hide from players, I am not afraid of stronger players. [quote]We have lost a lot of good players because of this same issue.[/quote] You don't understand something: players come and go. It is called a life cycle. Sooner or later they will leave. Saying they leave cause of "the same issue" is wrong. They do not leave cause of MD issues. It's just a normal thing. So I don't believe they left cause MD cause them harm or god knows what. [quote]Let us drop our egos, our personal feelings and let MD evolve like is it suppose to and let her people grow and evolve as well.[/quote] MD is made of players who have egos, feelings. The players make MD evolve. Their wishes, their needs are what makes it spin. If you drop them then you'll have a dead world. That's the flavor of MD: the players. Otherwise it will be just another game where you go and kill/interact with bots.

I am pleased to announce that half of the goal of this topic has been achieved. Since I made the topic, all the awarded wishpoints were fair given. The quests were public, announced in time, the reasons were real (not fake ones - except maybe a case or 2 were the one giving the WP tried to see how much she/he can bend the rules). So...congratz! See? it's not that hard. ps:if i see more rules bending i will announce them:not as "bad things". Just as rules bending. And it will be a subjective opinion. So don't start screaming and yelling. You'll have the opportunity to comment on it. pps:don't mind my spelling. today i have a bad spelling day...