Fenrir Greycloth

Wont work since there is no "history" in the Tribunals.

The idea matters more than the person presenting it, true. But other considerations must be accounted for as well.

I really like Raven's idea as well, but I also agree with Pipsticks. Lets get some new blood into the alliances. Raven has led an alliance before, succeeded to a degree, and moved on. He did well. Raven has been around for a long time and would have a good following. However, we can't just keep recycling the same leaders as we add new alliances and factions. I would like to see new(er) individuals get the leadership, as they would definitely have fresher ideas. My application is perfectly suitable to be led by me, or another. I do not have to be the leader, but as it was my idea, I know more about it than others. BUT another leader is perfectly acceptable.

Congrats Jester, and RIP... Peace. I will miss you.

[quote name='Raven' date='15 September 2009 - 10:32 AM' timestamp='1253025163' post='41799'] [font="Courier New"]Caretakers as a group live in four ways. Three arts: demonology, witchcraft, occult. Each one of those arts presenting their purpose, their task and their role. Demonology as knowledge of the people, beings and any other strange phenomena in the land connected with it. Witchcraft as irrepressible style of living as it promotes simple, practical way of living amongst the ruins and most importantly stimulating intellect. And as last art, Occult, simply meaning "hidden" presenting the way certain activities will be held and referring to all unreported or unsolved crimes that can be regarded as occult. Opposite to the three arts is worldly-minded way of living of mercenaries in which best and most reasonable offer will receive services. [center][img]http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn57/Raven47Pro/struct.jpg[/img][/center] The facts in nature are the foundation out of which all consciousness and knowledge grow. Science is the outgrowth of these facts through careful investigation and study. Revelation is facts derived from the inner-consciousness—intuition—which is allied to the cause-world and is cognizant of the mind from which it originated Revelation united with science gives a substantial foundation for philosophy which is the proper outgrowth of science and revelation. Rituals that are to be studied and in most cases preformed are: cultural, spiritual, sexual and psychological rituals; which can in many cases overlap. Any new rituals (customarily-repeated act or series of acts) in the lands themselves will be documented and kept by Caretakers. Few examples of rituals are rituals of personal cleansing, calling and satisfying the dead, shielding, and sacrificing and many others. Ranks (each rank will be occupied by two people and depending on various situations single rank can be given to most of people. Example: In case of war there can be more people for fighting and more people dedicated to gathering information. First nobody would have defined rank but would need to prove himself/herself that he/she is able to do task of that rank or at least present past deeds that confirm their words.):  Dark Night of the Soul (warriors, defenders, military strategists)  Dreamer (rituals, researches and other various tasks)  Black/White witch (fully dedicated to rituals)  Lost Soul (bard, a poet, one to write chants)  Banisher (diplomat) This alliance would be linked to tribunals because lands of the east is a land with plenty of marks by an older civilization, many terrible deeds had to be done to ruin such a city and city as such is perfect to be inhabited once again by people that don't see only spiritual value but also material.[/font] [/quote] I really like this idea, Raven.

Was Making a point. There are very few absolutes and barely any of this has anything to do with Alliances.

We can not possibly judge who is capable and who is not. Sure some may appear to be, and others don't. But through out history those who appeared to be good leaders turned out not to be. And those who were forced into the role or fellupon it were the best.

Phantasm, the connections I made with the names were merely that. Connections. It has nothing to do with my alliance proposition. It was an idea for others to consider.

Just play md. It's like any program or technology. You will get used to it if you play around.

Stop being offended over nothing. Chewett rarely plays md. Therefore he can not know what sort of actions ig we take. Tarq's rp is lightyears beyond anyone elses md. He is easily the best Rper in this game. No doubt about it. I feel this alliance is whati need to grow and step up my game a bit with a challenge. Leading an alliance, even if it consists of three people, is not easy, rightChewett? Some struggle, others don't.

I never said it was a bad thing, I feel sentimental to my first bloodpact archer. The one I got as a present during Christmas. I don't feel the need to put it on an alt though. It can't mean THAT much if you put it on an alt to be forgotten about.

Handy I thoughtof such an idea as well, bUt that is asking for trouble? There isn't anyone in the game that can be trusted so. At least by everyone.

Well now that I have read that, I am still against it. The whole point you put them on alts is to make room for other critters? Right? Leave them where they are. They are still there, you can still look at them and know that they exist right?

Excellent... This works into my plans perfectly! *rubs hands together*

I voted no. those creatures have no real purpose to them besides their age value. Did you keep any of the other first creatures? How about your first aramor? Or your first tree?

That is not true in al cases. Tendril.

I had an idea earlier today while I was making connections with different parts in md. The one connection I made was the connection between the tribunal and the caretakers names. I thought of the different meanings of tribunal and caretaker. A tribunal is a group of people whose purpose is to judge and A caretaker can be connected to a caretaker government. A caretaker govrrntmwnts purpose is to hold the seats of power until the real holders come back from a sick leave or someone new is chosen. I would like to propose this idea as well as my other. I propose that the caretakers become a caretaker government of the tribunals(the land of the east). They would behave like a normal government but the additional duty of finding the true leader of the lands or until a new leader has been chosen. Please tell me if this idea sounds reasonable or not, or just plain stupid. The connection makes sense to me, but I dunno if it does to others.

Age does not matter in the terms of leadership. If it does I have been playing for 321 days. I doubt our age wil matter toomuch unless we have been playing fir only a couple days.

Okay, these topics are for The potential Leaders of the seal of six and the Caretakers. Stop trying to join them.

Aeo, now you are trying to ruin my chances, but what ever. Loreroot changed.

And me! I suspect mur wants to wait until he chooses the caretaker leader.

Mark, stop. That doesn't help.

Chat, spells, quest page, everything I have available to me now and the future. I have a competitor now that has a good chance of getting the leadership. But nothing I say will change murs opinion of the bettEr alliance.

Rex was unbanned lol

Well, what you are going on is just the name, right? That is all we are going on. What windy, guy, and myself have proposed can certainly be applied to the caretakers more than the Seal of Six. Phantasms is definitely more of a fighting alliance. Since the caretakers are nuetral, and non combative, they do not necessarily fit. Of course the alliances are not set in stone so they can apply to both. Lol