Redd

Something very (can't find the right term) just happened to me when I idled at the GGG last night.
I gained 140k exp, and got capped, but only my def crit (an elemental1) got experience, and only halt of the personal exp I gained. I doubt that this happened by accident, since that is an outrageous amount.

I can only conclude that someone don't like what I'm doing, because I do appear as a MP3 stat grinder.
FYI, I'm simply training an agien. That is my dream. Because, as I said before, stat grinding isn't worth it.

Damn, this is so frustrating..

Can something be done in regards to this? I can't name the culprit because my log is flooded with losses.
Any form of help is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much...

I'll emphasize that what is annoying is that someone can actually do this.
Doesn't it bother anyone else that an MP3 can give away 70k-ish exp in a non-damage fight? Probably not, because it happened to me. But what if it happened/starts happening to newbies? I bet the issue won't get the same reaction.
Since it appears impossible to trace who did it anymore, this is what I want to know right now. If this thing demands attention or not.
...

BTW, it appears that I was a scum to train in the GGG, therefore the vigilante who kicked my arse can avoid prosecution. Or it is simply stated out that my fault can actually motivate someone to do this.

[quote]I don't care much about GGG but I loathe the idea of 'two wrongs make a right'. Unless GGG wants to restrict its services to mp4+, this case deserves the same treatment for prosecution and punishment as all other offenses against GGG receive.[/quote]

I don't see anyone opposing this statement, but it is being neg repped. That is not helping anything. at all.

I agree with this statement(but the neg reps confuses me because that means that others see this as wrong and I don't know why). I won't push it in my case, because now there is no way to find the perpetrator. As I said, this isn't only about my case.
I would like to hear insights on this(if the person deserves a punishment being a GGG offense, etc)
But more than that about MP3 in general. It would be better if this can be prevented, though I doubt that.

I'll emphasize that what is annoying is that someone can actually do this.
Doesn't it bother anyone else that an MP3 can give away 70k-ish exp in a non-damage fight? Probably not, because it happened to me. But what if it happened/starts happening to newbies? I bet the issue won't get the same reaction.
Since it appears impossible to trace who did it anymore, this is what I want to know right now. If this thing demands attention or not.
...

BTW, it appears that I was a scum to train in the GGG, therefore the vigilante who kicked my arse can avoid prosecution. Or it is simply stated out that my fault can actually motivate someone to do this.

[quote]I don't care much about GGG but I loathe the idea of 'two wrongs make a right'. Unless GGG wants to restrict its services to mp4+, this case deserves the same treatment for prosecution and punishment as all other offenses against GGG receive.[/quote]

I don't see anyone opposing this statement, but it is being neg repped. That is not helping anything. at all.

I agree with this statement(but the neg reps confuses me because that means that others see this as wrong and I don't know why). I won't push it in my case, because now there is no way to find the perpetrator. As I said, this isn't only about my case.
I would like to hear insights on this(if the person deserves a punishment being a GGG offense, etc)
But more than that about MP3 in general. It would be better if this can be prevented, though I doubt that.

I'll emphasize that what is annoying is that someone can actually do this.
Doesn't it bother anyone else that an MP3 can give away 70k-ish exp in a non-damage fight? Probably not, because it happened to me. But what if it happened/starts happening to newbies? I bet the issue won't get the same reaction.
Since it appears impossible to trace who did it anymore, this is what I want to know right now. If this thing demands attention or not.
...

BTW, it appears that I was a scum to train in the GGG, therefore the vigilante who kicked my arse can avoid prosecution. Or it is simply stated out that my fault can actually motivate someone to do this.

[quote]I don't care much about GGG but I loathe the idea of 'two wrongs make a right'. Unless GGG wants to restrict its services to mp4+, this case deserves the same treatment for prosecution and punishment as all other offenses against GGG receive.[/quote]

I don't see anyone opposing this statement, but it is being neg repped. That is not helping anything. at all.

I agree with this statement(but the neg reps confuses me because that means that others see this as wrong and I don't know why). I won't push it in my case, because now there is no way to find the perpetrator. As I said, this isn't only about my case.
I would like to hear insights on this(if the person deserves a punishment being a GGG offense, etc)
But more than that about MP3 in general. It would be better if this can be prevented, though I doubt that.

I'll emphasize that what is annoying is that someone can actually do this.
Doesn't it bother anyone else that an MP3 can give away 70k-ish exp in a non-damage fight? Probably not, because it happened to me. But what if it happened/starts happening to newbies? I bet the issue won't get the same reaction.
Since it appears impossible to trace who did it anymore, this is what I want to know right now. If this thing demands attention or not.
...

BTW, it appears that I was a scum to train in the GGG, therefore the vigilante who kicked my arse can avoid prosecution. Or it is simply stated out that my fault can actually motivate someone to do this.

[quote]I don't care much about GGG but I loathe the idea of 'two wrongs make a right'. Unless GGG wants to restrict its services to mp4+, this case deserves the same treatment for prosecution and punishment as all other offenses against GGG receive.[/quote]

I don't see anyone opposing this statement, but it is being neg repped. That is not helping anything. at all.

I agree with this statement(but the neg reps confuses me because that means that others see this as wrong and I don't know why). I won't push it in my case, because now there is no way to find the perpetrator. As I said, this isn't only about my case.
I would like to hear insights on this(if the person deserves a punishment being a GGG offense, etc)
But more than that about MP3 in general. It would be better if this can be prevented, though I doubt that.

Something very (can't find the right term) just happened to me when I idled at the GGG last night.
I gained 140k exp, and got capped, but only my def crit (an elemental1) got experience, and only halt of the personal exp I gained. I doubt that this happened by accident, since that is an outrageous amount.

I can only conclude that someone don't like what I'm doing, because I do appear as a MP3 stat grinder.
FYI, I'm simply training an agien. That is my dream. Because, as I said before, stat grinding isn't worth it.

Damn, this is so frustrating..

Can something be done in regards to this? I can't name the culprit because my log is flooded with losses.
Any form of help is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much...

[quote name='Fenrir Greycloth' date='15 February 2010 - 02:42 PM' timestamp='1266216165' post='54506']
That's a lousy excuse to be a powerhouse MP3.

A real challenge is to become MP5, and a skillful player. Not a stat grinder, or a tokened up moron.
[/quote]

I never mentioned anything about being a 'powerhouse', have I? I don't even know what a max agien does. All I know is that it looks cool. People don't think the same way, as I have my own fetish that keeps me running, and some might not understand that. It's my own version of crit collection or item hoarding. If it was all about power, all of us will grind and RP will be neglected. (And I do think that becoming a good RPer is also a great challenge.)
Who said I never want to bacome a strong MP5? I have my plans, Fenrir.

[quote]The problem i have with this topic is that you have no idea if someone purposely did this or if it was your fault. And this would effect how you should behave massively.[/quote]

No, its not my fault. Of that I'm sure.
I'm also pretty sure that this is purposedly done.(My crit got 50% of the PE I gained, and my defense registered 2 wins, so I assume defend, regen, defend. If someone can give another explanation, or how this is possible by accident, I can dismiss this assumption)
What I'm not sure is if someone did this to me alone or to others also.

I know that its improbable that I get my xp reset, I know ways to do that myself. What I'm more interested in finding out who did this, but apparently no one can help with that. No one even seems interested to find out who the person is.

[quote]The problem i have with this topic is that you have no idea if someone purposely did this or if it was your fault. And this would effect how you should behave massively.[/quote]

No, its not my fault. Of that I'm sure.
I'm also pretty sure that this is purposedly done.(My crit got 50% of the PE I gained, and my defense registered 2 wins, so I assume defend, regen, defend. If someone can give another explanation, or how this is possible by accident, I can dismiss this assumption)
What I'm not sure is if someone did this to me alone or to others also.

I know that its improbable that I get my xp reset, I know ways to do that myself. What I'm more interested in finding out who did this, but apparently no one can help with that. No one even seems interested to find out who the person is.

[quote name='Burns' date='15 February 2010 - 03:36 PM' timestamp='1266219404' post='54511']
If you want a challenge, try and raise angiens without using SG and GGG, that's a lot more interesting ^^

And i'm pretty sure it's not about hating you, but hating GGG and aging MP3 in general...
You just happened to be idle, not a very smart thing to do unless you don't mind the possible consequences
[/quote]

Again, that doesn't prove that the action was reasonable.
Besides, that's the whole point of going idle at GGG. Farming losses is pretty hard in the place, but atleast, safe from unwated exp. Supposedly.

[size="3"][color="#0000FF"]If it was about hating GGG/old MP3s, there should be others who have encountered the same problem..[/color][/size]

[quote]As Burns said its not a challenge to sit in GGG farming angien wins, Thats just pointless grinding like you said "stat grinding isn't worth it" Its win grinding same principle, same amount of unworthiness[/quote]

Who cares about its worth? I say that grinding stats is worthless FOR ME, but I don't say that is should be stopped. Moreover, I don't FORCE people to stop, as this person did to me.People still grind stats, so I can also grind wins. I want to see the result, so I do it. Its all about satisfaction.

The case that "Redd got screwed by someone" is only half the point. [size="3"][color="#0000FF"]The issue of "people being able to manipuilate others by such means" is the one that needs more attention. If this is tolerated, this can lead to abuse. Same concept as using regen rits. After all, these things are 'technically' permitted.[/color][/size]

If my case is hopeless, I can accept that(not now, though), I hope. But I'm still hoping that I can regain what I lost, 'cause it ruins my plans. And it sucks. Bigtime.

[quote]The problem i have with this topic is that you have no idea if someone purposely did this or if it was your fault. And this would effect how you should behave massively.[/quote]

No, its not my fault. Of that I'm sure.
I'm also pretty sure that this is purposedly done.(My crit got 50% of the PE I gained, and my defense registered 2 wins, so I assume defend, regen, defend. If someone can give another explanation, or how this is possible by accident, I can dismiss this assumption)
What I'm not sure is if someone did this to me alone or to others also.

I know that its improbable that I get my xp reset, I know ways to do that myself. What I'm more interested in finding out who did this, but apparently no one can help with that. No one even seems interested to find out who the person is.

[quote name='Burns' date='15 February 2010 - 03:36 PM' timestamp='1266219404' post='54511']
If you want a challenge, try and raise angiens without using SG and GGG, that's a lot more interesting ^^

And i'm pretty sure it's not about hating you, but hating GGG and aging MP3 in general...
You just happened to be idle, not a very smart thing to do unless you don't mind the possible consequences
[/quote]

Again, that doesn't prove that the action was reasonable.
Besides, that's the whole point of going idle at GGG. Farming losses is pretty hard in the place, but atleast, safe from unwated exp. Supposedly.

[size="3"][color="#0000FF"]If it was about hating GGG/old MP3s, there should be others who have encountered the same problem..[/color][/size]

[quote]As Burns said its not a challenge to sit in GGG farming angien wins, Thats just pointless grinding like you said "stat grinding isn't worth it" Its win grinding same principle, same amount of unworthiness[/quote]

Who cares about its worth? I say that grinding stats is worthless FOR ME, but I don't say that is should be stopped. Moreover, I don't FORCE people to stop, as this person did to me.People still grind stats, so I can also grind wins. I want to see the result, so I do it. Its all about satisfaction.

The case that "Redd got screwed by someone" is only half the point. [size="3"][color="#0000FF"]The issue of "people being able to manipuilate others by such means" is the one that needs more attention. If this is tolerated, this can lead to abuse. Same concept as using regen rits. After all, these things are 'technically' permitted.[/color][/size]

If my case is hopeless, I can accept that(not now, though), I hope. But I'm still hoping that I can regain what I lost, 'cause it ruins my plans. And it sucks. Bigtime.

[quote name='Fenrir Greycloth' date='15 February 2010 - 02:42 PM' timestamp='1266216165' post='54506']
That's a lousy excuse to be a powerhouse MP3.

A real challenge is to become MP5, and a skillful player. Not a stat grinder, or a tokened up moron.
[/quote]

I never mentioned anything about being a 'powerhouse', have I? I don't even know what a max agien does. All I know is that it looks cool. People don't think the same way, as I have my own fetish that keeps me running, and some might not understand that. It's my own version of crit collection or item hoarding. If it was all about power, all of us will grind and RP will be neglected. (And I do think that becoming a good RPer is also a great challenge.)
Who said I never want to bacome a strong MP5? I have my plans, Fenrir.

[quote name='Fenrir Greycloth' date='15 February 2010 - 02:24 PM' timestamp='1266215084' post='54504']
Why must you be MP3 to train Angiens?

I believe what they did was a good thing. You have been in MP3 for far to long. Move on dude.
[/quote]

Because I see it as a challenge. You do realize how much harder it is to do compared to other MP levels, right?
And even if the motive can be considered 'good', that doesn't negate the fact that the action is unjust.

Something very (can't find the right term) just happened to me when I idled at the GGG last night.
I gained 140k exp, and got capped, but only my def crit (an elemental1) got experience, and only halt of the personal exp I gained. I doubt that this happened by accident, since that is an outrageous amount.

I can only conclude that someone don't like what I'm doing, because I do appear as a MP3 stat grinder.
FYI, I'm simply training an agien. That is my dream. Because, as I said before, stat grinding isn't worth it.

Damn, this is so frustrating..

Can something be done in regards to this? I can't name the culprit because my log is flooded with losses.
Any form of help is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much...

[quote]The problem i have with this topic is that you have no idea if someone purposely did this or if it was your fault. And this would effect how you should behave massively.[/quote]

No, its not my fault. Of that I'm sure.
I'm also pretty sure that this is purposedly done.(My crit got 50% of the PE I gained, and my defense registered 2 wins, so I assume defend, regen, defend. If someone can give another explanation, or how this is possible by accident, I can dismiss this assumption)
What I'm not sure is if someone did this to me alone or to others also.

I know that its improbable that I get my xp reset, I know ways to do that myself. What I'm more interested in finding out who did this, but apparently no one can help with that. No one even seems interested to find out who the person is.

[quote name='Burns' date='15 February 2010 - 03:36 PM' timestamp='1266219404' post='54511']
If you want a challenge, try and raise angiens without using SG and GGG, that's a lot more interesting ^^

And i'm pretty sure it's not about hating you, but hating GGG and aging MP3 in general...
You just happened to be idle, not a very smart thing to do unless you don't mind the possible consequences
[/quote]

Again, that doesn't prove that the action was reasonable.
Besides, that's the whole point of going idle at GGG. Farming losses is pretty hard in the place, but atleast, safe from unwated exp. Supposedly.

[size="3"][color="#0000FF"]If it was about hating GGG/old MP3s, there should be others who have encountered the same problem..[/color][/size]

[quote]As Burns said its not a challenge to sit in GGG farming angien wins, Thats just pointless grinding like you said "stat grinding isn't worth it" Its win grinding same principle, same amount of unworthiness[/quote]

Who cares about its worth? I say that grinding stats is worthless FOR ME, but I don't say that is should be stopped. Moreover, I don't FORCE people to stop, as this person did to me.People still grind stats, so I can also grind wins. I want to see the result, so I do it. Its all about satisfaction.

The case that "Redd got screwed by someone" is only half the point. [size="3"][color="#0000FF"]The issue of "people being able to manipuilate others by such means" is the one that needs more attention. If this is tolerated, this can lead to abuse. Same concept as using regen rits. After all, these things are 'technically' permitted.[/color][/size]

If my case is hopeless, I can accept that(not now, though), I hope. But I'm still hoping that I can regain what I lost, 'cause it ruins my plans. And it sucks. Bigtime.

There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of animals Chuck Norris allows to live.

http://www.chucknorrisfacts.com/

[quote]The problem i have with this topic is that you have no idea if someone purposely did this or if it was your fault. And this would effect how you should behave massively.[/quote]

No, its not my fault. Of that I'm sure.
I'm also pretty sure that this is purposedly done.(My crit got 50% of the PE I gained, and my defense registered 2 wins, so I assume defend, regen, defend. If someone can give another explanation, or how this is possible by accident, I can dismiss this assumption)
What I'm not sure is if someone did this to me alone or to others also.

I know that its improbable that I get my xp reset, I know ways to do that myself. What I'm more interested in finding out who did this, but apparently no one can help with that. No one even seems interested to find out who the person is.

[quote]The problem i have with this topic is that you have no idea if someone purposely did this or if it was your fault. And this would effect how you should behave massively.[/quote]

No, its not my fault. Of that I'm sure.
I'm also pretty sure that this is purposedly done.(My crit got 50% of the PE I gained, and my defense registered 2 wins, so I assume defend, regen, defend. If someone can give another explanation, or how this is possible by accident, I can dismiss this assumption)
What I'm not sure is if someone did this to me alone or to others also.

I know that its improbable that I get my xp reset, I know ways to do that myself. What I'm more interested in finding out who did this, but apparently no one can help with that. No one even seems interested to find out who the person is.

[quote name='Burns' date='15 February 2010 - 03:36 PM' timestamp='1266219404' post='54511']
If you want a challenge, try and raise angiens without using SG and GGG, that's a lot more interesting ^^

And i'm pretty sure it's not about hating you, but hating GGG and aging MP3 in general...
You just happened to be idle, not a very smart thing to do unless you don't mind the possible consequences
[/quote]

Again, that doesn't prove that the action was reasonable.
Besides, that's the whole point of going idle at GGG. Farming losses is pretty hard in the place, but atleast, safe from unwated exp. Supposedly.

[size="3"][color="#0000FF"]If it was about hating GGG/old MP3s, there should be others who have encountered the same problem..[/color][/size]

[quote]As Burns said its not a challenge to sit in GGG farming angien wins, Thats just pointless grinding like you said "stat grinding isn't worth it" Its win grinding same principle, same amount of unworthiness[/quote]

Who cares about its worth? I say that grinding stats is worthless FOR ME, but I don't say that is should be stopped. Moreover, I don't FORCE people to stop, as this person did to me.People still grind stats, so I can also grind wins. I want to see the result, so I do it. Its all about satisfaction.

The case that "Redd got screwed by someone" is only half the point. [size="3"][color="#0000FF"]The issue of "people being able to manipuilate others by such means" is the one that needs more attention. If this is tolerated, this can lead to abuse. Same concept as using regen rits. After all, these things are 'technically' permitted.[/color][/size]

If my case is hopeless, I can accept that(not now, though), I hope. But I'm still hoping that I can regain what I lost, 'cause it ruins my plans. And it sucks. Bigtime.

[quote name='Fenrir Greycloth' date='15 February 2010 - 02:42 PM' timestamp='1266216165' post='54506']
That's a lousy excuse to be a powerhouse MP3.

A real challenge is to become MP5, and a skillful player. Not a stat grinder, or a tokened up moron.
[/quote]

I never mentioned anything about being a 'powerhouse', have I? I don't even know what a max agien does. All I know is that it looks cool. People don't think the same way, as I have my own fetish that keeps me running, and some might not understand that. It's my own version of crit collection or item hoarding. If it was all about power, all of us will grind and RP will be neglected. (And I do think that becoming a good RPer is also a great challenge.)
Who said I never want to bacome a strong MP5? I have my plans, Fenrir.

[quote name='Fenrir Greycloth' date='15 February 2010 - 02:42 PM' timestamp='1266216165' post='54506']
That's a lousy excuse to be a powerhouse MP3.

A real challenge is to become MP5, and a skillful player. Not a stat grinder, or a tokened up moron.
[/quote]

I never mentioned anything about being a 'powerhouse', have I? I don't even know what a max agien does. All I know is that it looks cool. People don't think the same way, as I have my own fetish that keeps me running, and some might not understand that. It's my own version of crit collection or item hoarding. If it was all about power, all of us will grind and RP will be neglected. (And I do think that becoming a good RPer is also a great challenge.)
Who said I never want to bacome a strong MP5? I have my plans, Fenrir.

[quote name='Burns' date='15 February 2010 - 03:36 PM' timestamp='1266219404' post='54511']
If you want a challenge, try and raise angiens without using SG and GGG, that's a lot more interesting ^^

And i'm pretty sure it's not about hating you, but hating GGG and aging MP3 in general...
You just happened to be idle, not a very smart thing to do unless you don't mind the possible consequences
[/quote]

Again, that doesn't prove that the action was reasonable.
Besides, that's the whole point of going idle at GGG. Farming losses is pretty hard in the place, but atleast, safe from unwated exp. Supposedly.

[size="3"][color="#0000FF"]If it was about hating GGG/old MP3s, there should be others who have encountered the same problem..[/color][/size]

[quote]As Burns said its not a challenge to sit in GGG farming angien wins, Thats just pointless grinding like you said "stat grinding isn't worth it" Its win grinding same principle, same amount of unworthiness[/quote]

Who cares about its worth? I say that grinding stats is worthless FOR ME, but I don't say that is should be stopped. Moreover, I don't FORCE people to stop, as this person did to me.People still grind stats, so I can also grind wins. I want to see the result, so I do it. Its all about satisfaction.

The case that "Redd got screwed by someone" is only half the point. [size="3"][color="#0000FF"]The issue of "people being able to manipuilate others by such means" is the one that needs more attention. If this is tolerated, this can lead to abuse. Same concept as using regen rits. After all, these things are 'technically' permitted.[/color][/size]

If my case is hopeless, I can accept that(not now, though), I hope. But I'm still hoping that I can regain what I lost, 'cause it ruins my plans. And it sucks. Bigtime.

[quote name='Fenrir Greycloth' date='15 February 2010 - 02:42 PM' timestamp='1266216165' post='54506']
That's a lousy excuse to be a powerhouse MP3.

A real challenge is to become MP5, and a skillful player. Not a stat grinder, or a tokened up moron.
[/quote]

I never mentioned anything about being a 'powerhouse', have I? I don't even know what a max agien does. All I know is that it looks cool. People don't think the same way, as I have my own fetish that keeps me running, and some might not understand that. It's my own version of crit collection or item hoarding. If it was all about power, all of us will grind and RP will be neglected. (And I do think that becoming a good RPer is also a great challenge.)
Who said I never want to bacome a strong MP5? I have my plans, Fenrir.