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[quote name='Grido' timestamp='1338823763' post='113366'] I thought they were meant to be coloured by hand as well? The page for item image uploads says hand drawn only, however it also says the images should be b/w there, which doesn't sound right [/quote] I would prefer pc colored ones... They are still unique and hand made... I think

[quote name='Curiose' timestamp='1338855515' post='113404'] YAY AWESOME. Thank you guys so much! I hope you all had fun. : D Thanks, BFH and Awii for your help! [/quote] No problem dear For next time I'll hopefully be able to open a jump link for more to be able to join Keep up the good work !

[quote name='Tom Pouce' timestamp='1338842534' post='113385'] [color=#0000ff]Split from the Council Topic [url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/12400-development-focus/"]http://magicduel.inv...elopment-focus/[/url][/color] [color=#0000cd]~Burns[/color] Comments to you guys I dont understand your attitude You negative rep suggestions to make life easier or more interesting to new players ... You want to only remain essentially with the actual population of players? You negative rep suggestion to put tools in hand of new players, you dont want them to see or learn the part of the game of using tools, making some wealth? You want it to remain only in hands of a few? and then you complain that new players think only of fighting not trying the other game possibilities. You negative rep suggestion to lower soemewhat or give possibility to lower negative impact of viscosity on new players. You dont want new players? you dont want new players that will try to quest, and explore MD? I have try to get in MD some players i have know in another online game. I am talking of players that have play the same game for over 3 years (so dont talk about kids that want only to pow pow) (and that game is a sand box where one make its own way, and survive or build not a kiddy game only) of them not one remain here. I dont know but i think this community need to think a little in that line .. Its just my opinion ... Remark: only 3 posts negative rep BFH post saying MD need new players and my 2 posts .. [/quote] Don't worry about negative reputation. It is the way that players have to vote. Usually the negative part start balancing and gets to a 0 value. The negative part doesn't mean we don't care about the ideas shared or that players don't care about them. All ideas are important. Think or reputation as the way to define priority. I'm pretty sure that council reads them all and gets to notice the ideas mentioned to try working them out. So yes keep giving ideas

[quote name='awiiya' timestamp='1338859104' post='113414'] BFH - to make this discussion more concrete, which filters would you like to relax? Story mode? It might be the case that story mode should be rewritten or changed. It's... tangential to the point of absurdity at the moment. It could eve be rewritten with real MD history. Is that a project the council would be interested in? Awi [/quote] Tutorial ones that covers part of story. I did not replied fully because of spoilers. Your answer was sent by pm. In terms of numbers (players) yes it's something council and i guess most of us the players would be interested in.

I'm going to make the final version and open sign up soon. Please comment now that you can Then don't complain

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[quote]Ann. 2317 - [2012-06-04 20:22:46 - Stage 11] [b]Development Focus[/b] From the last post, it seems like a number of people are thinking in a different direction than we are, and want as much feedback as possible. To get a a much broader view of what people want, we are looking for comments on anything you think we should be working on now. Please make a topic with the first post being these instructions. Following posts should only include one "idea" that you feel should be worked on first. Ideas should be "voted" on using the reputation. Once we get get a better idea of what specifically people are looking to be done, we can make some specific comments and open the voting again like we did before, hopefully explaining everything. [/quote] I'm going to start by stating my opinion of what NEEDS to be done. One of the major issues with MD are its "filters." You guys should work to remove many of them. That will allow MD to recieve a considerable amount of players that will stay and not leave just because the filters. I won't enter into details on forums, but if you guys want we can discuss the issue. Why it should be done? MD needs more players I was asked to put the other posts I made here: --- I told that maybe remove wasn't the correct word but that made them easier to overcome. --- After chatting with another vet (If he prefer i put his name). I got on to this, regarding the filters of the tutorial: I see them all wrong as a whole. First and in terms of numbers. The longer you wait to present a new player the real game, which is nothing related to the tutorial, more increases the chance for them to get out of the game. Currently the initial part of the tutorial is boring and to be sincere most of the basics which can be learn from that part can be compiled into a single task. Players enter into a deserted place (Paper cabin) they try to chat but unfortunately they are chatting to nobody. LHO's aren't the problem but the system that makes then start like that. Tutorial can start with a battle. Exposing them to a real part of MagicDuel and making players eager to fight and to get involved, which reduces the amount of players that leave. (That also involves animating the battles a bit more, which can be done at once because the whole idea is a major change) After the battle players can be introduced to PvP fights all part of the tutorial, explaining them the basis of it and all. Finally players are given a major task, quest or whatever to learn basics and reach the principles all at once. Story doesn't needs to be removed, but maybe let the players voluntary enter in it. This allows 1. MD story to keep up. 2. Will make players not leave telling "WTF is this about" 3. Increases by a BIG amount the players that stay. 4. Finally and by consequence MD gets bigger, better, and more fun. --- Note: If any of you would like to discuss any of this please remember to use the other topic that is open. As Burns told here and Chew to me, lets try to keep this one clean.

[log= Story Night Logs] [03/06/12 14:18] [b]:[/b] [i]ignnus collects herbs[/i] [03/06/12 14:31] [b]:[/b] [i]ignnus collects herbs[/i] [03/06/12 17:18] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]nadrolski waters Awiiya's roots with Mineral Water[/i][/color] [03/06/12 17:18] [b]:[/b] [i]nadrolski collects wiiya and syntropicdust as a byproduct[/i] [03/06/12 17:19] [b]:[/b][color="#1D6D94"][i]nadrolski passed Syntropic Dust to Emerald Arcanix[/i][/color] [03/06/12 17:19] [b]:[/b] [i]nadrolski collects wiiya and syntropicdust as a byproduct[/i] [03/06/12 17:19] [b]:[/b][color="#1D6D94"][i]nadrolski passed Syntropic Dust to Emerald Arcanix[/i][/color] [03/06/12 17:19] [b]:[/b] [i]nadrolski collects wiiya and syntropicdust as a byproduct[/i] [03/06/12 17:19] [b]:[/b][color="#1D6D94"][i]nadrolski passed Syntropic Dust to Emerald Arcanix[/i][/color] [03/06/12 17:19] [b]:[/b] [i]nadrolski collects wiiya and syntropicdust as a byproduct[/i] [03/06/12 17:19] [b]:[/b][color="#1D6D94"][i]nadrolski passed Syntropic Dust to Emerald Arcanix[/i][/color] [03/06/12 17:25] [b]:[/b] [i]nadrolski collects wiiya and syntropicdust as a byproduct[/i] [03/06/12 17:25] [b]:[/b][color="#1D6D94"][i]nadrolski passed Syntropic Dust to Emerald Arcanix[/i][/color] [03/06/12 17:25] [b]:[/b] [i]nadrolski collects wiiya and syntropicdust as a byproduct[/i] [03/06/12 17:25] [b]:[/b][color="#1D6D94"][i]nadrolski passed Syntropic Dust to Emerald Arcanix[/i][/color] [03/06/12 17:25] [b]:[/b] [i]nadrolski collects wiiya and syntropicdust as a byproduct[/i] [03/06/12 17:25] [b]:[/b][color="#1D6D94"][i]nadrolski passed Syntropic Dust to Emerald Arcanix[/i][/color] [03/06/12 17:25] [b]:[/b] [i]nadrolski collects wiiya and syntropicdust as a byproduct[/i] [03/06/12 17:25] [b]:[/b][color="#1D6D94"][i]nadrolski passed Syntropic Dust to Emerald Arcanix[/i][/color] [03/06/12 17:30] [b]:[/b] [i]nadrolski collects wiiya and syntropicdust as a byproduct[/i] [03/06/12 17:30] [b]:[/b][color="#1D6D94"][i]nadrolski passed Syntropic Dust to Emerald Arcanix[/i][/color] [03/06/12 17:30] [b]:[/b] [i]nadrolski collects wiiya and syntropicdust as a byproduct[/i] [03/06/12 17:30] [b]:[/b][color="#1D6D94"][i]nadrolski passed Syntropic Dust to Emerald Arcanix[/i][/color] [03/06/12 17:32] [b]nadrolski:[/b]2 Bubbles expired and 2 each has 5 uses left sir [03/06/12 17:33] [b]Emerald Arcanix:[/b]ee...we will win more in time [03/06/12 17:33] [b]nadrolski:[/b]and regarding Dust, i haven't had spoken with Soothing Sands today, but i should later sir [03/06/12 17:34] [b]nadrolski:[/b]and should i raise additional Grasans for the other 3 resources? [03/06/12 17:34] [b]nadrolski:[/b]or these 2 are the best to collect [03/06/12 17:35] [b]Emerald Arcanix:[/b]i have no idea [03/06/12 17:36] [b]:[/b] [i]nadrolski collects wiiya and syntropicdust as a byproduct[/i] [03/06/12 17:36] [b]:[/b][color="#1D6D94"][i]nadrolski passed Syntropic Dust to Emerald Arcanix[/i][/color] [03/06/12 17:36] [b]:[/b] [i]nadrolski collects wiiya and syntropicdust as a byproduct[/i] [03/06/12 17:37] [b]:[/b][color="#1D6D94"][i]nadrolski passed Syntropic Dust to Emerald Arcanix[/i][/color] [03/06/12 17:37] [b]Emerald Arcanix:[/b]maybe make a forum post and ask...just giving an idea out [03/06/12 17:37] [b]nadrolski:[/b]for me, those 2 might have better uses than the others hehe [03/06/12 17:37] [b]Emerald Arcanix:[/b]we more players from mb work to win bubbles we will have a nice amount of them [03/06/12 17:38] [b]Emerald Arcanix:[/b]if more players [03/06/12 17:39] [b]nadrolski:[/b]i am halfway on finishing my quest for one bubble, but i blame real life stuffs for the delays lol [03/06/12 17:41] [b]Emerald Arcanix:[/b]i am pretty sure if the cart will need wiiya to work more will get bubbles [03/06/12 17:41] [b]nadrolski:[/b]by the way sir, you may also want to raise few named grasans too for faster conversion [03/06/12 17:42] [b]nadrolski:[/b]i agree with you sir [03/06/12 17:42] [b]:[/b] [i]nadrolski collects wiiya and syntropicdust as a byproduct[/i] [03/06/12 17:42] [b]:[/b][color="#1D6D94"][i]nadrolski passed Syntropic Dust to Emerald Arcanix[/i][/color] [03/06/12 17:42] [b]:[/b] [i]nadrolski collects wiiya and syntropicdust as a byproduct[/i] [03/06/12 17:42] [b]:[/b][color="#1D6D94"][i]nadrolski passed Syntropic Dust to Emerald Arcanix[/i][/color] [03/06/12 17:42] [b]Emerald Arcanix:[/b]as for grasans...no can do for now [03/06/12 17:43] [b]nadrolski:[/b]no problem sir, then let my nose-pickers eat them [03/06/12 17:47] [b]:[/b] [i]nadrolski collects wiiya and syntropicdust as a byproduct[/i] [03/06/12 17:47] [b]:[/b][color="#1D6D94"][i]nadrolski passed Syntropic Dust to Emerald Arcanix[/i][/color] [03/06/12 17:48] [b]:[/b] [i]nadrolski collects wiiya and syntropicdust as a byproduct[/i] [03/06/12 17:48] [b]:[/b][color="#1D6D94"][i]nadrolski passed Syntropic Dust to Emerald Arcanix[/i][/color] [03/06/12 17:48] [b]nadrolski:[/b]last 2 uses on each sir, after this i must go [03/06/12 17:49] [b]Emerald Arcanix:[/b]ok [03/06/12 17:53] [b]:[/b] [i]nadrolski collects wiiya and syntropicdust as a byproduct[/i] [03/06/12 17:53] [b]:[/b][color="#1D6D94"][i]nadrolski passed Syntropic Dust to Emerald Arcanix[/i][/color] [03/06/12 17:53] [b]:[/b] [i]nadrolski collects wiiya and syntropicdust as a byproduct[/i] [03/06/12 17:53] [b]:[/b][color="#1D6D94"][i]nadrolski passed Syntropic Dust to Emerald Arcanix[/i][/color] [03/06/12 17:58] [b]:[/b] [i]nadrolski collects wiiya and syntropicdust as a byproduct[/i] [03/06/12 17:58] [b]:[/b][color="#1D6D94"][i]nadrolski passed Syntropic Dust to Emerald Arcanix[/i][/color] [03/06/12 17:58] [b]:[/b] [i]nadrolski collects wiiya and syntropicdust as a byproduct[/i] [03/06/12 17:58] [b]:[/b][color="#1D6D94"][i]nadrolski passed Syntropic Dust to Emerald Arcanix[/i][/color] [03/06/12 17:59] [b]nadrolski:[/b]all Bubbles are used up sir hehe [03/06/12 18:00] [b]nadrolski:[/b]now i must go but won't idle. have a good day sir and i'll see you soon [03/06/12 18:01] [b]nadrolski:[/b] ([color="#888888"][i]will collect your Bucket later asap, thank you![/i][/color]) [03/06/12 23:14] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Allo [03/06/12 23:44] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Hello Kiley [03/06/12 23:49] [b]Falronn:[/b]Hello. [03/06/12 23:49] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Hello. [03/06/12 23:50] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Hello joshdragon and Falronn [03/06/12 23:50] [b]Kiley:[/b] [color="#305681"]*[i]smiles softly looking up[/i]*[/color] Hello. [03/06/12 23:50] [b]Awiiya:[/b]How are you two? [03/06/12 23:50] [b]Kiley:[/b]I am quite well thank you. [03/06/12 23:50] [b]Falronn:[/b]I am good. [03/06/12 23:50] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Quite well, you? [03/06/12 23:50] [b]Kiley:[/b]Just waking. I trust the same for you? [03/06/12 23:50] [b]Falronn:[/b] ([color="#888888"][i]wishing I had a bottle of whiskey...[/i][/color]) [03/06/12 23:51] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Somewhat, yes [03/06/12 23:51] [b]Awiiya:[/b] ([color="#888888"][i]Hah.[/i][/color]) [03/06/12 23:51] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I am doing well. Gearing up for Story Night. [03/06/12 23:51] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Though I think this one will be a good deal more casual. [03/06/12 23:51] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I won't force you to listen to any overly poetic dribble on my part. [03/06/12 23:51] [b]Falronn:[/b]But we like to listen to your "dribble." [03/06/12 23:52] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Kiley laughs[/i][/color] [03/06/12 23:52] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Do you? [03/06/12 23:52] [b]Falronn:[/b]Yes. [03/06/12 23:52] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Masochists, all. [03/06/12 23:53] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Kiley bursts out laughing[/i][/color] [03/06/12 23:53] [b]Kiley:[/b] ([color="#888888"][i]have to step away:([/i][/color]) [03/06/12 23:53] [b]Falronn:[/b]And that's why I drink. [color="#305681"]*[i]laughs[/i]*[/color] [03/06/12 23:53] [b]Awiiya:[/b] ([color="#888888"][i]Adios[/i][/color]) [03/06/12 23:53] [b]Awiiya:[/b]It's acid down the throat, and poison in the ears! That's what story night is all about. [03/06/12 23:53] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Regrettably I have no alcohol. I'm in the bubble business myself. [03/06/12 23:54] [b]Awiiya:[/b]But if you do a quick performance of any sort I'd pass a bubble your way. [03/06/12 23:54] [b]Falronn:[/b]Ah, well I have a lot on my mind at the moment. [03/06/12 23:54] [b]Falronn:[/b]Or I would. [03/06/12 23:55] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Hmm, I thought that there were no prizes this time. [03/06/12 23:55] [b]Awiiya:[/b]There aren't. [03/06/12 23:55] [b]Awiiya:[/b]But a bubble is not a prize. [03/06/12 23:55] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Ah. [03/06/12 23:55] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I have a lot of room for your mind within mine [03/06/12 23:56] [b]Falronn:[/b]How much? [03/06/12 23:56] [b]Falronn:[/b]I don't think you would like my mind. [03/06/12 23:57] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b] [color="#305681"]*[i]walks near the company[/i]*[/color] hello [03/06/12 23:57] [b]joshdragon:[/b] [color="#305681"]*[i]nods to Valldore Nal[/i]*[/color] Hello. [03/06/12 23:57] [b]Awiiya:[/b]A lot. And even if I don't, it'd still be worth it. [03/06/12 23:58] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Hello there. Have we met? I don't recognize you, though your badge is familiar. [03/06/12 23:58] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]no we didn't have the chance to meet [03/06/12 23:59] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I'm Awiiya. You may have heard the name, but I'll say that the name cannot possibly contains the many folds I maintain. You see I slither over eardrums and wallow in witticisms. [03/06/12 23:59] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I creep across blackboards and chalk over graveyards. [04/06/12 00:00] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I point, sign, indicate directions. [04/06/12 00:00] [b]Awiiya:[/b]And I'm a little more humble than all that and am pretty ridiculous and small. [04/06/12 00:00] [b]Awiiya:[/b]So welcome. [04/06/12 00:00] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Hello BFH [04/06/12 00:00] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]Hello [04/06/12 00:00] [b]Awiiya:[/b]How goes it? [04/06/12 00:00] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b] [color="#305681"]*[i]bows slightly[/i]*[/color] Valldore would be mine, don't expect that you've heard it, not too much time since i first set foot in this strange realm [04/06/12 00:00] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]I don't have any stories ready. Just came in to suupport [04/06/12 00:01] [b]Awiiya:[/b]That's a myth about story night. [04/06/12 00:01] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b] ([color="#888888"][i]Mind if I put in triggers?[/i][/color]) [04/06/12 00:02] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I have never once come prepared to a Story Night. It's not about preparation, it's about... well... pulling stuff out of your butt. [04/06/12 00:02] [b]Awiiya:[/b] ([color="#888888"][i]Please, do[/i][/color]) [04/06/12 00:02] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Strange realm, sure, but strangely comfortable. [04/06/12 00:02] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Take a bubble. [04/06/12 00:02] [b]:[/b][color="#1D6D94"][i]Awiiya passed Wiiya Bubble to Valldore Nal[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:03] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b] ([color="#888888"][i]I almost sign with my real name XD[/i][/color]) [04/06/12 00:03] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]Well, i don't have a story in mind that i could share either, but i came to enjoy the stories that other ppl would like to share [04/06/12 00:04] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]and who knows, in time i may have one to share as well [04/06/12 00:04] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]Thanks for the Bubble , although i am not quite famirial with it [04/06/12 00:04] [b]Awiiya:[/b]If I may ask - how did you get here? [04/06/12 00:05] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]By here you mean tonight, or this realm in general ? [04/06/12 00:07] [b]Awiiya:[/b]The realm, mostly [04/06/12 00:07] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Welcome, Emerald, Neno [04/06/12 00:07] [b]Neno Veliki:[/b]hello [04/06/12 00:07] [b]Emerald Arcanix:[/b]hey [04/06/12 00:08] [b]Sunfire:[/b]hello [04/06/12 00:08] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Hello Sunfire, too [04/06/12 00:08] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]That could be a bit hard to explain, lets just say that i've heard of the path , and this is where it led me [04/06/12 00:08] [b]Awiiya:[/b]You heard the path! Heard. Most see it. What sound did the path make? [04/06/12 00:08] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Was it gravely? [04/06/12 00:09] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]Hehe you are right, i ment i heard about the path [04/06/12 00:09] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]De Mimsy Porpington hugs Awi[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:09] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I like hearing the path though. I hear the path because I cannot see. [04/06/12 00:09] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Hello again Mimsy. I hope the time between our last meeting has been spent sunnily. [04/06/12 00:10] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]De Mimsy Porpington nods[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:10] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]How can you hear, and yet not see if i may ask ? [04/06/12 00:10] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b] [color="#305681"]*[i]looks up at Awi[/i]*[/color] D'you think Ience gets bothered by the attention? [04/06/12 00:10] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Vibrations, Valldore. Vibrations and rustlings. Roots feel, leaves move, branches swing [04/06/12 00:11] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Who is lence? [04/06/12 00:11] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]Perhaps ience is a what... [04/06/12 00:11] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]but he's constantly being pat. [04/06/12 00:12] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Ience. I have never heard of this person or thing. [04/06/12 00:12] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]Oh? He's spoken of muchly. [04/06/12 00:12] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]Or she. Or it. Hmm... [04/06/12 00:12] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Hm! Introduce me? [04/06/12 00:12] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Hello Innocence, welcome, as usual. [04/06/12 00:13] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]Perhaps you speak of him and do not know. [04/06/12 00:13] [b]Awiiya:[/b]You're looking rather shifty today. I approve. [04/06/12 00:13] [b]Innocence:[/b]Thank you, Spike. [04/06/12 00:13] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Perhaps I do! Still, then, alert me to who or what or whom Ience is. [04/06/12 00:13] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b] [color="#305681"]*[i]looks at Innocence[/i]*[/color] Ah, and whenever I bring up ience, people assume I mean Innocence. [04/06/12 00:13] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]Someone could argue with you though, that what you described could be a considered a different way of "seeing" [04/06/12 00:13] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]Well that should take the fun out of it, wouldn't you think? Or would you not? [04/06/12 00:14] [b]Innocence:[/b]...um... is this a story? [04/06/12 00:14] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]Hmm.. [04/06/12 00:14] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Not yet. [04/06/12 00:14] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Yes - but I use the word for convenience of understanding. If I used the truth, that I feel people, they might misunderstand. [04/06/12 00:14] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Nope - no story just yet Innocence. [04/06/12 00:14] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]It's the meager beginnings of a potential story. [04/06/12 00:14] [b]Awiiya:[/b]You're right. So I guess I just have to find Ience by myself. [04/06/12 00:15] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]Oh, you will [color="#305681"]*[i]smiles[/i]*[/color] [04/06/12 00:15] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Perhaps it's in SCIENCE. Or PRESCIENCE. [04/06/12 00:15] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]Or perhaps you already have. [04/06/12 00:15] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Have I. [04/06/12 00:15] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]Sc. ience would be a strange title. [04/06/12 00:16] [b]Awiiya:[/b]It could be short for Schoolmaster Ience. Or Scholar Ience. Or Scotch Ience. [04/06/12 00:16] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]Well, I don't know! You're the one who must do the finding! Or the rediscovery. Or the recognition. [04/06/12 00:16] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]Hmm. [04/06/12 00:17] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Too much that I have to do! I am overwhelmed. [04/06/12 00:17] [b]Awiiya:[/b]But it's been the graced 15 minutes. [04/06/12 00:17] [b]Awiiya:[/b]So now it begins! [04/06/12 00:17] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Most of you are familiar faces and know how this goes, but I have been toying with switching it up. [04/06/12 00:17] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Many times this forum feels too formal for many to display their words. [04/06/12 00:17] [b]Awiiya:[/b]But it's not. It's very casual today. [04/06/12 00:18] [b]Awiiya:[/b]So -if you have done something, or done nothing, or imagined a world, share it. [04/06/12 00:18] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Because that's what we are here for. To share a piece of your world. [04/06/12 00:19] [b]Awiiya:[/b]So - a beginning poem just to warm you all up. Impromptu, for you. [04/06/12 00:19] [b]Awiiya:[/b]-Gathered under a tree, with leaves [04/06/12 00:19] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Three, four, five, six, losing count, and me [04/06/12 00:19] [b]Awiiya:[/b]It's a moment, scissored and cut, pasted onto [04/06/12 00:20] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Flat paper time, crumpled, waste-basket thrown. [04/06/12 00:20] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Create again! Borrow, or steal, a raccoon with swift claws in the night [04/06/12 00:20] [b]Awiiya:[/b]And then, at the end, you've laid down a few lines that serve, and then with us swerve. [04/06/12 00:20] [b]Awiiya:[/b]It's simple. And I do not ask much. [04/06/12 00:20] [b]Awiiya:[/b] ([color="#888888"][i]end[/i][/color]) [04/06/12 00:21] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]De Mimsy Porpington applauds[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:21] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Innocence claps and smiles.[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:21] [b]Awiiya:[/b]So! Any ideas? [04/06/12 00:22] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Awiiya motions to the audience[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:22] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]TRUE! [04/06/12 00:22] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]nervous, very, very dreadfully nervous I had been and am [04/06/12 00:22] [b]Innocence:[/b]Um, a moment, if you please. [04/06/12 00:22] [b]joshdragon:[/b]I have a story. [04/06/12 00:22] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]No, no, that one is too long. [04/06/12 00:22] [b]Sunfire:[/b]i have a poem about beggars [04/06/12 00:22] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]De Mimsy Porpington stops[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:23] [b]Innocence:[/b]Fenrar is just on the other side of the gate and would like to join us. [04/06/12 00:23] [b]Innocence:[/b]However, he can't quite make it. Can anyone here help him? [04/06/12 00:23] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Okay! So we have Innocence, joshdragon, Sunfire [04/06/12 00:23] [b]Falronn:[/b]Not enough AP? [04/06/12 00:23] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]I'm afraid I have no pickles handy. [04/06/12 00:23] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I wish I had a teleport, but alas, I don't. [04/06/12 00:23] [b]joshdragon:[/b]My story is a bit on the long side, though. [04/06/12 00:24] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]Handy Pockets might. A pity she's not around. [04/06/12 00:24] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I have time. [04/06/12 00:24] [b]:[/b][color="#1D6D94"][i]Falronn passed Spicy Pickle to Innocence[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:24] [b]Innocence:[/b]...would anyone object to a change of venue, then? [04/06/12 00:24] [b]Sunfire:[/b]can i go before josh then? i dont have that much time im 'fraid [04/06/12 00:24] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I would... [04/06/12 00:24] [b]Innocence:[/b]I don't know if that's going to help, Falls. He's still kinda new here. [04/06/12 00:24] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]You have time? I might like to see time, sometime. [04/06/12 00:24] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Yes - Sunfire [04/06/12 00:25] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]It should give him enough, Inno. [04/06/12 00:25] [b]Innocence:[/b]Hmm... [04/06/12 00:25] [b]joshdragon:[/b]I can ask him if a pickle would give enough, I have him on my quick-mail list. [04/06/12 00:25] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Innocence - I cannot move. [04/06/12 00:25] [b]Innocence:[/b]Okay. [04/06/12 00:25] [b]Innocence:[/b]Just a second. [04/06/12 00:25] [b]Emerald Arcanix:[/b]he should be able to make it here now [04/06/12 00:25] [b]Innocence:[/b]...whatever that means... [04/06/12 00:25] [b]apophys:[/b]Hello there. [04/06/12 00:25] [b]Emerald Arcanix:[/b]sent him 2 pickle [04/06/12 00:25] [b]Emerald Arcanix:[/b]s [04/06/12 00:25] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Hello apophys, all [04/06/12 00:26] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b] [color="#305681"]*[i]thinks to himself[/i]*[/color] True! Very, very confused I had been and am. [04/06/12 00:26] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Sunfire - would you like to go first? [04/06/12 00:26] [b]Sunfire:[/b] [color="#305681"]*[i]shrugs[/i]*[/color] sure [04/06/12 00:26] [b]Awiiya:[/b] [color="#305681"]*[i]nods[/i]*[/color] Then wait a few moment for Innocence to get back [04/06/12 00:26] [b]Fenrar:[/b]Thank you Emerald, Innocence... greetings all [color="#305681"]*[i]bows[/i]*[/color] [04/06/12 00:26] [b]apophys:[/b]Nice to see that story night makes the biggest gathering in the realm at the moment. [04/06/12 00:27] [b]:[/b][color="#1D6D94"][i]Innocence passed Spicy Pickle to Falronn[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:27] [b]Awiiya:[/b] [color="#305681"]*[i]laughs[/i]*[/color] Yes, it is nice. [04/06/12 00:27] [b]Falronn:[/b]Ah, thanks. [04/06/12 00:27] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]De Mimsy Porpington passes a note to apophys[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:27] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Hello Fenrar. I am Awiiya, this is story night, an open forum to share, and... be here. [04/06/12 00:27] [b]Awiiya:[/b]But I think we are all here so! [04/06/12 00:27] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Sunfire is up, Innocence and joshdragon next. [04/06/12 00:27] [b]Awiiya:[/b]So without further ado, silence and respect for Sunfire: [04/06/12 00:28] [b]Sunfire:[/b] [color="#305681"]*[i]coughs[/i]*[/color] the city's flees [04/06/12 00:28] [b]Sunfire:[/b]living in the shadows of the city [04/06/12 00:28] [b]Sunfire:[/b]even tho we move in plain daylight [04/06/12 00:29] [b]Sunfire:[/b]people look at us with pitty [04/06/12 00:29] [b]Sunfire:[/b]others even filled with fright [04/06/12 00:29] [b]Sunfire:[/b]. [04/06/12 00:29] [b]Sunfire:[/b]roaming at the busy market [04/06/12 00:29] [b]Sunfire:[/b]or hanging at the gates [04/06/12 00:30] [b]Sunfire:[/b]people whose faces they so easily forget [04/06/12 00:30] [b]Sunfire:[/b]while we only work for a better fate [04/06/12 00:30] [b]Sunfire:[/b]. [04/06/12 00:30] [b]Sunfire:[/b]whenever we come near [04/06/12 00:31] [b]Sunfire:[/b]they act like we're a disease [04/06/12 00:31] [b]Sunfire:[/b]they'd rather have us dissapear [04/06/12 00:31] [b]Sunfire:[/b]for them we're just the city's flees [04/06/12 00:32] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Sunfire bows[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:32] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Awiiya claps[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:32] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]apophys claps[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:32] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Innocence smiles and claps.[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:32] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]joshdragon claps[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:33] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Fenrar claps[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:33] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Valldore Nal applauds[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:33] [b]Awiiya:[/b]A poem dripping with sadness and dejection. Nicely put. [04/06/12 00:33] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]De Mimsy Porpington applauds[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:34] [b]Awiiya:[/b]We have Innocence and joshdragon. Anyone else have to leave early and would like to go soonish? [04/06/12 00:34] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Kiley wakes with a soft smile watching from the shadows[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:34] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I will take that as a no. [04/06/12 00:35] [b]Awiiya:[/b]So - Innocence, go ahead. [04/06/12 00:35] [b]Innocence:[/b]Oh, wait... what? [04/06/12 00:35] [b]Innocence:[/b]I don't have anything. I wonder why you kept saying that. [04/06/12 00:36] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Awiiya laughs[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:36] [b]Awiiya:[/b]A misunderstanding. [04/06/12 00:37] [b]Awiiya:[/b]No! You Must Share! [color="#305681"]*[i]mock anger[/i]*[/color] [04/06/12 00:37] [b]apophys:[/b]:3 [04/06/12 00:37] [b]Innocence:[/b] [color="#305681"]*[i]pouts in an exaggerated fashion.[/i]*[/color] ...but... but... [04/06/12 00:37] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I do not care! Share! [04/06/12 00:38] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]Rhyme intentional or a happy mistake? [04/06/12 00:38] [b]Fenrar:[/b]Please? [04/06/12 00:38] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Intentional. [04/06/12 00:38] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]De Mimsy Porpington nods[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:38] [b]Awiiya:[/b]But - joshdragon had something. So before we devolve into random outcries, we should give due respect. [04/06/12 00:39] [b]Innocence:[/b]Okay, okay... I guess I can come up with something... [04/06/12 00:39] [b]Awiiya:[/b]johsdragon are you ready? [04/06/12 00:39] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Yes. [04/06/12 00:39] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Or! Innocence shows a change of heart! [04/06/12 00:39] [b]Awiiya:[/b]No surprise for a changeling. [04/06/12 00:39] [b]Innocence:[/b]Or not. Whew! Saved at the last moment. [04/06/12 00:39] [b]apophys:[/b]Ha ha. [04/06/12 00:39] [b]Awiiya:[/b]joshdragon go ahead. Innocence you're not off the hook - you go after. [04/06/12 00:39] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Just a moment. [04/06/12 00:39] [b]Innocence:[/b]Shucks... [color="#305681"]*[i]scuffs at the ground with a hoof.[/i]*[/color] [04/06/12 00:39] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Okay, I'm ready now. [04/06/12 00:40] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Fenrar murmurs then watches Josh silently[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:40] [b]joshdragon:[/b]"The Tale of Bragi" [04/06/12 00:41] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Each day, the doors of Valhalla swing wide, and out of those doors pour the hosts of the Einherjar. [04/06/12 00:41] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Through the day they battle, all in preparation for the final doom they know will come on the day of Ragnarok. [04/06/12 00:41] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Among them, one walks unharmed. [04/06/12 00:41] [b]joshdragon:[/b]No sword strikes against him. No spear is aimed at him. He is Bragi, Skald of the Gods. [04/06/12 00:42] [b]joshdragon:[/b]After the battle, once those who died are revived to join in the feast in the great hall, Bragi tells them tales and sings them songs to keep them entertained. [04/06/12 00:42] [b]joshdragon:[/b]He is well liked in general, but he hears the whispers in the back of the hall. [04/06/12 00:42] [b]joshdragon:[/b]"That Bragi," they say. "Great storyteller, but he is no warrior. He will be useless when the giants come for us." [04/06/12 00:43] [b]joshdragon:[/b]One day, Bragi decided he did not like this. He wanted to make a good account of himself on the day of Ragnarok, so he went to the dwarves, the great metalsmiths and masons. [04/06/12 00:44] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Before them he sang his songs and told his tales, and when he was finished the Dwarf King said, "You are skilled, Bragi. I feel I must give you something in return. What would you ask of us?" [04/06/12 00:44] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Without hesitation he replied, "Make me a weapon." [04/06/12 00:44] [b]joshdragon:[/b]So the dwarves produced for him a harp. It was framed with gold, the strings of the finest material, and the song it played was unlike any other. [04/06/12 00:45] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Bragi was unhappy but forced himself to think of what great songs the harp could play rather than destruction, and thanking the dwarves for their gift he returned to Asgard. [04/06/12 00:45] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Each day after the battle, he sang the songs and told the tales, and they were so fine that for a year and a day the hall of Valhalla was quiet. [04/06/12 00:45] [b]joshdragon:[/b]And the hall of Valhalla is rarely quiet. [04/06/12 00:46] [b]joshdragon:[/b]But once again, he heard the whispers. [04/06/12 00:46] [b]joshdragon:[/b]So he went to the elves, and before them he sang the songs and told the tales, and then their king approached him. [04/06/12 00:47] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Speaking quietly so as not to interrupt the feasting, he said, "Your skill merits a reward. What would you ask?" [04/06/12 00:47] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Bragi replied, "Make me a weapon." [04/06/12 00:48] [b]joshdragon:[/b]The elves crafted for him a staff, and through Bragi was dissatisfied he admired the worksmanship. Before leaving he told one last tale to the elves, and as he leaned upon the staff he felt as though [04/06/12 00:48] [b]joshdragon:[/b]he somehow was telling that story better than he ever had before. [04/06/12 00:48] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Thanking the elves for their generous gift, he went back to Asgard. [04/06/12 00:49] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Each day after the battle, he sang the songs and told the tales, and for a year and a day the hall of valhalla was quiet. [04/06/12 00:49] [b]joshdragon:[/b]And the hall of Valhalla is rarely quiet. [04/06/12 00:49] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Yet again, he heard the whispers in the back of the hall. [04/06/12 00:49] [b]joshdragon:[/b]So desperate was Bragi for a weapon worthy of Ragnarok that he went to Jotunheim, to the giants, the very foes he was bound to face. [04/06/12 00:50] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Before them he sang his songs and told his tales, and when he was finished the giants said to him, "You deserve some token of our appreciation." [04/06/12 00:50] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Immediately Bragi shouted, "Make me a weapon!" [04/06/12 00:50] [b]joshdragon:[/b]The giants' leader looked at him sideways. "Well, I... we.... NO!" [04/06/12 00:50] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Bragi was about to turn away in defeat, but then a voice spoke. "I have a weapon for you, Bragi." [04/06/12 00:51] [b]joshdragon:[/b]A wizened giant bearing a great sword appeared before him. "I will give this to you. Nothing can stand against it. But you must swear one small oath." [04/06/12 00:51] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Bragi was curious. He wanted the sword, but he wasn't sure what the giant would ask for. "What is that oath? [04/06/12 00:51] [b]joshdragon:[/b]The giant held the sword out and said, "That you strike with it nothing that breathes!" [04/06/12 00:52] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Bragi immediately spoke. "I so swear!" [04/06/12 00:52] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Thanking the giants he returned to Asgard. [04/06/12 00:52] [b]joshdragon:[/b]And it is said that on the day of Ragnarok, Loki and the giants will carve from the mountain a creature of rock and dirt. [04/06/12 00:52] [b]joshdragon:[/b]The mightiest of the gods will fail to destroy it. [04/06/12 00:53] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Yet, looking upon it and only wanting to make a good account of himself, Bragi will realize that this monstrous creature does not breathe. [04/06/12 00:53] [b]joshdragon:[/b]A mighty battle cry will resound throughout Asgard, and the greatest sword ever made will be drawn from its scabbard, [04/06/12 00:53] [b]joshdragon:[/b]and the first and greatest blow of Ragnarok will be struck by a Skald! [04/06/12 00:54] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]joshdragon bows[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:54] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]apophys applauds[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:54] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Fenrar thinking and claps[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:54] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Sunfire claps[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:54] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]I was hoping he'd get backhand slapped by the giants.. [04/06/12 00:55] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Innocence smiles and claps.[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:55] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Awiiya claps[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:55] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Kiley applauds[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:55] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Valldore Nal applauds[/i][/color] [04/06/12 00:55] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I wondered too, whether the giants would actually not even fight in the end. [04/06/12 00:56] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]if i may ask, what is a Skald of the Gods ? [04/06/12 00:56] [b]apophys:[/b]I was hoping he'd rade it for something that didn't come with an oath attached. [04/06/12 00:56] [b]apophys:[/b]*trade [04/06/12 00:56] [b]Awiiya:[/b]The power of the artist! [04/06/12 00:56] [b]joshdragon:[/b]A Skald is a bard. [04/06/12 00:56] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Except more norse. [04/06/12 00:56] [b]Awiiya:[/b]It's a fictional character, Valldore. [04/06/12 00:56] [b]Awiiya:[/b]A story. [04/06/12 00:56] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]i didn't know what skald means [04/06/12 00:57] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b] ([color="#888888"][i]and translation gave me skald as answer [/i][/color]) [04/06/12 00:57] [b]Fenrar:[/b]I thought Bragi will die, and Valhalla remains quiet. [04/06/12 00:57] [b]apophys:[/b] ([color="#888888"][i]looking up bragi on wikipedia was more fruitful for me. [/i][/color]) [04/06/12 00:58] [b]Sunfire:[/b] ([color="#888888"][i]awi pm[/i][/color]) [04/06/12 00:58] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b] ([color="#888888"][i]tried that, but the article was a bit big, so i will check it later [/i][/color]) [04/06/12 00:58] [b]Awiiya:[/b] [color="#305681"]*[i]nods[/i]*[/color] Does anybody else have something to share? Or shall we just talk? Or should I produce? Or does Innocence have something imagined? [04/06/12 00:58] [b]Awiiya:[/b] ([color="#888888"][i]I saw, just saving it[/i][/color]) [04/06/12 00:59] [b]Sunfire:[/b] ([color="#888888"][i]k[/i][/color]) [04/06/12 00:59] [b]joshdragon:[/b] ([color="#888888"][i]I'll be right back, getting some water[/i][/color]) [04/06/12 00:59] [b]Fenrar:[/b]...hmm. [04/06/12 00:59] [b]Innocence:[/b]I suppose I could share... as long as someone gets me off this hook I'm on. [04/06/12 00:59] [b]Innocence:[/b]...I don't know how I got up here... [04/06/12 00:59] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b] ([color="#888888"][i]thanks Emerald[/i][/color]) [04/06/12 01:00] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Awiiya sighs[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:00] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Awiiya removes Innocence from the hook[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:00] [b]Innocence:[/b] [color="#305681"]*[i]smiles widely.[/i]*[/color] Thank you! [04/06/12 01:01] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Kiley giggles shaking her head[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:01] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Valldore Nal wonders where did that hook came off in the first place[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:01] [b]Innocence:[/b]Anyway, I suppose I'm ready to share if others are ready to hear. [04/06/12 01:02] [b]Innocence:[/b]Or listen. Either way, I suppose. [04/06/12 01:02] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b] ([color="#888888"][i]"came from" may be better though [/i][/color]) [04/06/12 01:02] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Kiley smiles softly nodding[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:02] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]apophys listens intently[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:02] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Fenrar nods[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:02] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I am ready [04/06/12 01:02] [b]Innocence:[/b]Okay... so... once upon a time, in a land without a name... someone grew up... [04/06/12 01:02] [b]Innocence:[/b]I'll call them Someone. [04/06/12 01:03] [b]Innocence:[/b]Anyway, in a neighboring, also nameless land, someone else came to power and was not nice. [04/06/12 01:03] [b]Innocence:[/b]In fact, Someone Else--which is the name I'm choosing now--was actually quite mean. [04/06/12 01:03] [b]Innocence:[/b]And, you know, did mean things... like... there was fire... and some water... and, you know... he did mean things with them. [04/06/12 01:04] [b]Innocence:[/b]You know, to, like, people and some animals and stuff. Maybe a couple of homes, too. [04/06/12 01:04] [b]Innocence:[/b]Anyway, Someone heard about this and was all, [04/06/12 01:04] [b]Innocence:[/b]"Yeah, no, I can't let this happen and I'm going to do something about it." [04/06/12 01:04] [b]Innocence:[/b]And so Someone left on a quest to help the neighboring area place thing. [04/06/12 01:05] [b]Innocence:[/b]Someone met Some Random Other and Funny Named One on the way, too. [04/06/12 01:05] [b]Innocence:[/b]And together, they all tried to stop Someone Else from doing all the mean things Someone Else liked to do. You know, because they were hero types... or something. [04/06/12 01:06] [b]Innocence:[/b]Anyway, I don't want to ruin the ending for you, but there was a lot of action and excitement, mystery and love. [04/06/12 01:06] [b]Innocence:[/b]Oh, and not to give anything away... [color="#305681"]*[i]looks around and lowers voice,[/i]*[/color] ...one of these characters dies. [04/06/12 01:07] [b]Innocence:[/b] [color="#305681"]*[i]holds a finger up to lips and Shhs.[/i]*[/color] But you didn't hear that from me. [04/06/12 01:07] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Innocence smiles and sits down.[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:08] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Awiiya claps[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:08] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Awiiya laughs[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:08] [b]Awiiya:[/b]A funny retelling of the heroic epic. [04/06/12 01:08] [b]apophys:[/b]O.o [color="#305681"]*[i]slowclap[/i]*[/color] [04/06/12 01:08] [b]Innocence:[/b]That was, like, totally made up on the spot. You know, where I was standing. Totally original. [04/06/12 01:09] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Fenrar claps[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:10] [b]Innocence:[/b]Are there more stories? [04/06/12 01:10] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Awiiya laughs[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:10] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I guess that's what we should expect from someone on the hook. [04/06/12 01:10] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I could tell some history if anyone has questions about an age in MD. [04/06/12 01:10] [b]Kiley:[/b]I once had a pony.. [color="#305681"]*[i]grins[/i]*[/color] [04/06/12 01:10] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I'm sure Innocence et cetera would help [04/06/12 01:10] [b]Innocence:[/b]...yeah, well, I don't even know where that hook came from. What was up with that? [04/06/12 01:10] [b]Kiley:[/b]Who could top that? [04/06/12 01:11] [b]Awiiya:[/b]So there I was [04/06/12 01:11] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Sorry. I keep it around just in case. [04/06/12 01:11] [b]Innocence:[/b]Just in case of Innocence? [04/06/12 01:11] [b]Kiley:[/b] [color="#305681"]*[i]nods at Awiiya[/i]*[/color] Everywhere there ya [04/06/12 01:11] [b]Falronn:[/b]What about the age of mp2s? [04/06/12 01:11] [b]Kiley:[/b]Everywhere ya go there ya are. [04/06/12 01:11] [b]Kiley:[/b] ([color="#888888"][i]oops..fingers moving too fast again[/i][/color]) [04/06/12 01:11] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Oh mp2s. [04/06/12 01:12] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Well first there was the era of experimentation with mp2s. [04/06/12 01:12] [b]Innocence:[/b]...empeetoos? [04/06/12 01:12] [b]Awiiya:[/b]You know. Mind Powers. Too. [04/06/12 01:12] [b]Awiiya:[/b]But - we were all summoned to GG and given access to a whole slew of spells. [04/06/12 01:12] [b]Awiiya:[/b]And illusions. [04/06/12 01:13] [b]Awiiya:[/b]It was "testing." [04/06/12 01:13] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Never have I been turned into a toad so many times [04/06/12 01:13] [b]Awiiya:[/b]And - bizarre rituals, and colors all around. [04/06/12 01:13] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]apophys chuckles[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:13] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Red, green, blue, purple, explosions of magic and dark soldiers wandering. [04/06/12 01:13] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Mur, roaming, somewhat. Watching over. [04/06/12 01:14] [b]Awiiya:[/b]So much toad speak! Ribbits, and nearly like a magician pulling a rabbit out, that's what it was like. [04/06/12 01:14] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Lots of cheesy smiles and greased back hair. Suites, Peace was there, I remember, and we fought with imaginary creatures, that were not ours. [04/06/12 01:15] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Stuck on the island though. The gates had been closed prior, and we wandered from Beach to Fort to Mount. [04/06/12 01:15] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Cannon, Pillar, Lair. All dodging each other's spells. [04/06/12 01:15] [b]Awiiya:[/b]And heating up to defend. [04/06/12 01:15] [b]Awiiya:[/b]A bizarre time - you could forget easily who was who, and shapes blurred. [04/06/12 01:15] [b]Awiiya:[/b]My name, I lost. My self, barely remembered. [04/06/12 01:16] [b]Awiiya:[/b]In the end, sent back to the main land, unmagiced, but still with warts between our fingers and hiccuping. Hungover with magic. [04/06/12 01:16] [b]Awiiya:[/b] [color="#305681"]*[i]laughs[/i]*[/color] I have noticed that my style of speaking has become bizarre as of late. [04/06/12 01:16] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Or really, for a while. [04/06/12 01:16] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I'm amazed you all follow. It's rather impressionistic. [04/06/12 01:17] [b]Falronn:[/b]How many people would you say were there at the time? When you were there? [04/06/12 01:17] [b]Innocence:[/b]Very random-esque. [04/06/12 01:17] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Ah, maybe 20 or 30. Maybe more. [04/06/12 01:17] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I was there for... a few days to a week. Sometime between that. [04/06/12 01:17] [b]apophys:[/b]I remember being a frog for week myself. [04/06/12 01:18] [b]Awiiya:[/b]It was fun. And then mp2 became established for all new players [04/06/12 01:20] [b]Falronn:[/b]Aye. Thanks. I'm going to head over to the pub and see if I can find a drink. [04/06/12 01:20] [b]Falronn:[/b]Have fun with story night, all of you. [04/06/12 01:20] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]there aren't any mp2 nowdays ? [04/06/12 01:20] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Fenrar waves[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:20] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Valldore Nal waves to Falronn[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:20] [b]Kiley:[/b] [color="#305681"]*[i]stares at Awi her eyes wide[/i]*[/color] And then all MP2???? [04/06/12 01:20] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Bye Falronn. [04/06/12 01:20] [b]Innocence:[/b]I believe there are some that sleep now. [04/06/12 01:20] [b]apophys:[/b]There are the aramors in Golemus. [04/06/12 01:21] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Awiiya waves[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:21] [b]Kiley:[/b] [color="#305681"]*[i]looks over at apohys with a grin[/i]*[/color] Yes there are. [04/06/12 01:21] [b]Awiiya:[/b]And a few others. Peace was one for a while. [04/06/12 01:21] [b]Kiley:[/b]I suppose? [04/06/12 01:21] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]i've met those on my travel at GG [04/06/12 01:22] [b]Awiiya:[/b]But yes, there was a time when all new players were mp2 [04/06/12 01:22] [b]apophys:[/b]I wonder what happened to Abra... [04/06/12 01:22] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Me too. [04/06/12 01:22] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Still around, I suspect. [04/06/12 01:22] [b]Kiley:[/b]ahh around indeed. [04/06/12 01:22] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]and how come you are an mp1 now ? [04/06/12 01:22] [b]apophys:[/b]I saw him when I passed by, but he didn't respond. [04/06/12 01:23] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]you are the only one i've seen at mp1 , and MoC at mp8, but i guess that's the power of the clown [04/06/12 01:25] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Well... [04/06/12 01:25] [b]Awiiya:[/b]A good question. [04/06/12 01:25] [b]Awiiya:[/b]And one I'll leave unanswered. [04/06/12 01:25] [b]Awiiya:[/b]It's just a different stage of the game [04/06/12 01:25] [b]Awiiya:[/b]And I am one of few to have reached it. [04/06/12 01:25] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Or degraded to it, as the case may be. [04/06/12 01:25] [b]apophys:[/b]I remember an mp1; his name was Schizophrenium. But that was probably a glitch or a test of some kind. [04/06/12 01:26] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Ah yes, and Knator Commander. Though we use the mp1 slightly different [04/06/12 01:26] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I am considering forming an alliance. What do you all think of that? [04/06/12 01:26] [b]apophys:[/b]Interesting. [04/06/12 01:27] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Kiley laughs as she stands and wanders off[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:27] [b]apophys:[/b]Elaborate, please. [04/06/12 01:27] [b]Kiley:[/b]Take care. Long days and dreamy nights. [04/06/12 01:27] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]apophys waves to Kiley[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:28] [b]Yoshi:[/b] [color="#305681"]*[i]nods[/i]*[/color] Cya Kiley. [04/06/12 01:28] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Fenrar bows[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:28] [b]Innocence:[/b]Oh, hello, Yoshi! [04/06/12 01:29] [b]Yoshi:[/b]'ello Inno [04/06/12 01:29] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Well - it'd be a decentralized alliance in which each person has a task. [04/06/12 01:29] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I'd be the leader - it'd be known as the seeders group. Planting seeds, nurturing the tree, and then reaping the fruit. That's the metaphor. [04/06/12 01:30] [b]Awiiya:[/b]But really a lot of alliances don't have set goals or ideas in mind. And the leader is often times not very helpful. [04/06/12 01:30] [b]Innocence:[/b]What's the meta for? [04/06/12 01:30] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I intend for it to be very precise and intentional. And full of discussion. [04/06/12 01:30] [b]Awiiya:[/b]The metaphor is for what type of work the alliance would do. [04/06/12 01:30] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Each member of the alliance would need to have a "seed project" - which could either be chosen or assigned. Most likely a combination. [04/06/12 01:31] [b]Awiiya:[/b]And other things, too. [04/06/12 01:31] [b]Awiiya:[/b]But I will keep those a secret for now. [04/06/12 01:31] [b]:[/b][color="#999999"][i]*BFH Lightning* failed to cast a spell[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:31] [b]:[/b][color="#999999"][i]*BFH Lightning* failed to cast a spell[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:32] [b]:[/b][color="#999999"][i]*BFH Lightning* failed to cast a spell[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:32] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]%^&* [04/06/12 01:32] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]joshdragon arches an eyebrow[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:32] [b]Innocence:[/b]...what is BFH trying to do? [04/06/12 01:32] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Valldore Nal thinks BFH is loosing his touch[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:33] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]to fail casting spells i would assume [color="#305681"]*[i]smiles[/i]*[/color] [04/06/12 01:34] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]*BFH Lightning* hates HC[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:34] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]by the way, i happen to look for the biggest fountain in the realm. Anyone might point me to the right direction ? [04/06/12 01:34] [b]Yoshi:[/b]I think I've been away far too long, I forget how to even cast spells... [color="#305681"]*[i]chuckles[/i]*[/color] [04/06/12 01:35] [b]apophys:[/b]Biggest one is probably in the MDA garden. [04/06/12 01:35] [b]Yoshi:[/b]Biggest impact on the realm, or size? [04/06/12 01:35] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]MDA [04/06/12 01:35] [b]Awiiya:[/b]North, I think. [04/06/12 01:36] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]the only lands i haven't travel yet is Necrovion and Land of the East, and my assumption was indeed the MDA one [04/06/12 01:36] [b]:[/b][color="#FF9900"][b][Spell][/b] [i]KBOOM![/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:36] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]FINALLY [04/06/12 01:36] [b]joshdragon:[/b]So THAT's what he was trying to do... [04/06/12 01:36] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]but i was wondering if there is one there that i wouldn't know [04/06/12 01:36] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]maybe [04/06/12 01:36] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]maybe not [04/06/12 01:37] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]and what excactly did he do ? [04/06/12 01:37] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]maybe there are new lands [04/06/12 01:37] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]maybe not [04/06/12 01:37] [b]apophys:[/b]Acoustic remains [04/06/12 01:37] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]maybe.... [04/06/12 01:37] [b]apophys:[/b]i.e. pulled the chat log. [04/06/12 01:37] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]i guess all is possible to happen [04/06/12 01:38] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]Awii should know more than me [04/06/12 01:38] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Hmm? [04/06/12 01:38] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]about md i mean [04/06/12 01:38] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Know about what? [04/06/12 01:38] [b]Awiiya:[/b]MDA or MD? [04/06/12 01:39] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]MD [04/06/12 01:39] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]my curiocity was intrigued tbh. If i ask why you used the word degraded describing your current state, will i get an answer ? [04/06/12 01:39] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Well, I know a thing or two. [04/06/12 01:39] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Oh yes - you would. [04/06/12 01:39] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Are you asking? [04/06/12 01:39] [b]joshdragon:[/b] [color="#305681"]*[i]stands up[/i]*[/color] I must be leaving now. [04/06/12 01:40] [b]Awiiya:[/b] [color="#305681"]*[i]waves[/i]*[/color] Goodbye joshdrago [04/06/12 01:40] [b]apophys:[/b]Bye josh. [04/06/12 01:40] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]De Mimsy Porpington nods to all[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:40] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]Yeah, i don't believe in the "curiocity killed the cat" think ([color="#888888"][i]and i am not a cat[/i][/color]) [04/06/12 01:40] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]BB josh [04/06/12 01:40] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Fenrar bows[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:40] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]asking about a fouctain bigger than MDA ([color="#888888"][i]you had been here more time, probably had seen much more than me[/i][/color]) [04/06/12 01:40] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]So why did you use the word degraded to describe your current state Awiiya ? [04/06/12 01:40] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]have* [04/06/12 01:41] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Well [04/06/12 01:41] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I have no creatures [04/06/12 01:41] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I have no heat [04/06/12 01:41] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I cannot use my spells [04/06/12 01:41] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I cannot join an alliance. [04/06/12 01:42] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b] ([color="#888888"][i]sorry for spelling now trying to multitask[/i][/color]) [04/06/12 01:42] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I cannot fight. [04/06/12 01:42] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I have no gold or silver [04/06/12 01:42] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]you have no heat? [04/06/12 01:42] [b]Awiiya:[/b]No heat - none. [04/06/12 01:42] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]hmmm... that can be fixed [04/06/12 01:42] [b]:[/b][color="#1D6D94"][i]Lone Wolf passed Silver coin to Awiiya[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:42] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]You have knowledge. [04/06/12 01:42] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]by the higher power [04/06/12 01:43] [b]apophys:[/b]Does being mp1 force you not to have creatures, or could you take them by CTC? [04/06/12 01:43] [b]Awiiya:[/b]That I do have. [04/06/12 01:43] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]And some sort of thingy-muh-what that makes bubbles. [04/06/12 01:43] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I can take them by CTC, apophys. It's a choice. [04/06/12 01:43] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]Ah, yes, and how are you MP1? [04/06/12 01:43] [b]:[/b][color="#FF9900"][b][Spell][/b] [i]Bulbasaur, use Bind - Pipstickz[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:43] [b]:[/b][color="#1D6D94"][i]Awiiya passed Silver coin to Valldore Nal[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:44] [b]Awiiya:[/b]When I transformed into a tree, [color="#990000"]Mur[/color] declared me so. And so now I am, forever, or until I change it by will. [04/06/12 01:44] [b]apophys:[/b]Bulbasaur doesn't learn Bind.... [04/06/12 01:44] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]we need to get you heat! [04/06/12 01:44] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]Hmm, curious. [04/06/12 01:44] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b] [04/06/12 01:45] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]Do you want to change from a tree ? [04/06/12 01:45] [b]Awiiya:[/b]No, I do not [04/06/12 01:45] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]Do you have a reason to do so ? [04/06/12 01:45] [b]Awiiya:[/b]But I am degraded in the sense that I was an mp5, and am now an mp1. I have reversed, I have been planted, seeded. [04/06/12 01:45] [b]apophys:[/b]Do you want a remains to grow it into a tree? ... [04/06/12 01:45] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I was a man, and then I was a seed. [04/06/12 01:45] [b]Awiiya:[/b]And that is what I am. A seed. [04/06/12 01:45] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Awiiya laughs[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:45] [b]Awiiya:[/b]No thanks. [04/06/12 01:46] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b] Mirror-land! [04/06/12 01:46] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]Is there a spell that mirrors someone's words? [04/06/12 01:46] [b]Awiiya:[/b]No, but there should be. [04/06/12 01:46] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]nahh they can be somehow... [04/06/12 01:46] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]?siht ekil [04/06/12 01:47] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Sometimes [color="#990000"]Mur[/color] becomes a mirror. [04/06/12 01:47] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]Except more like a mirror. [04/06/12 01:47] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]We could try plant another tree for you to have company if you'd like [04/06/12 01:47] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]Hmm. I'd enjoy that spell - could come in handy. [04/06/12 01:47] [b]Awiiya:[/b] [color="#305681"]*[i]laughs[/i]*[/color] There is another tree [04/06/12 01:47] [b]Awiiya:[/b]The Oak. [04/06/12 01:47] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]Awiiya opens up the oak story log[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:47] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]De Mimsy Porpington points to the sapling[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:47] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Planted by yours truly. [04/06/12 01:47] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]apophys points to the oak seedling on the ground[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:48] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]The Keeper of Seeds protected you Awwi? [04/06/12 01:48] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]just curious [04/06/12 01:48] [b]Fenrar:[/b]Thank you for the nice time, see you around... and thanks for the help to get in. [color="#305681"]*[i]bows[/i]*[/color] [04/06/12 01:48] [b]apophys:[/b]Bye fen. [04/06/12 01:49] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b] [color="#305681"]*[i]nods[/i]*[/color] Farewell [04/06/12 01:49] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]Goodbye Fenrar [04/06/12 01:49] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Who is the Keeper of the Seeds? [04/06/12 01:49] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Akasha? Or Kets? [04/06/12 01:49] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Goodbye Fenrar. [04/06/12 01:50] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]Kets? [04/06/12 01:50] [b]Innocence:[/b]That was Kats. [04/06/12 01:50] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]she is no? [04/06/12 01:50] [b]Innocence:[/b]I can't believe you forgot, Spike. [04/06/12 01:50] [b]Innocence:[/b]Tsk, tsk. [04/06/12 01:50] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Right right. Yes - she keeps care of me. Though I have not seen her in months. [04/06/12 01:50] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Oh Inno, I pay little attention to tags. [04/06/12 01:50] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Kets is more than a title to me. [04/06/12 01:50] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I barely remember mine [04/06/12 01:50] [b]Awiiya:[/b]I wish she would visit again. [04/06/12 01:51] [b]Innocence:[/b]...she's not a mattress... [04/06/12 01:51] [b]Seigheart:[/b]Hey guys! [04/06/12 01:51] [b]Innocence:[/b] [color="#305681"]*[i]smiles.[/i]*[/color] Hello, Ziggy! [04/06/12 01:51] [b]Innocence:[/b]You missed some amazing stories! [04/06/12 01:51] [b]Seigheart:[/b]Aww, a sanctuary. [04/06/12 01:51] [b]Innocence:[/b]Mine was totally the best. [04/06/12 01:51] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]Hello Seig. How did the creat training went ? [04/06/12 01:52] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]Anyone want to play the Oldest Game or the 3-Word-Story game? [04/06/12 01:52] [b]Innocence:[/b]...what's the oldest game? [04/06/12 01:52] [b]apophys:[/b]What is the Oldest GAme? [04/06/12 01:52] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]i shall remove the triggers now [04/06/12 01:52] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Yes it is! [04/06/12 01:52] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b] [04/06/12 01:52] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Thank you BFH. [04/06/12 01:52] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]I'll send you the log awii [04/06/12 01:52] [b]De Mimsy Porpington:[/b]I'm no good at explaining things. [04/06/12 01:52] [b]Awiiya:[/b]Could you post it in the forum topic BFH? [04/06/12 01:52] [b]Seigheart:[/b]Hey... person... I still have a lot more to do... [04/06/12 01:53] [b]:[/b][color="#305681"][i]De Mimsy Porpington nudges Awi[/i][/color] [04/06/12 01:53] [b]Valldore Nal:[/b]I have read about the rules of the Oldest game, but i would love to see someone plays it ([color="#888888"][i]not really sure if i could participate yet[/i][/color]) [04/06/12 01:53] [b]:[/b][color="#FF9900"][b][Spell][/b] [i]KBOOM![/i][/color] [/log]

[quote name='Fyrd Argentus' timestamp='1338724381' post='113333'] So the scoring shoudl be simple - whichever team does BETTER, X or Y, on Z's first quest, gets -- one point. Forget checkpoints and difficulty factors. Only problem then is the tie-breaker if everybody wins 3 times. [/quote] Everybody agrees with his proposal?

the idea for the question for three teams is good, in terms of balance, since X participates in YZ quest and Y in XZ and Z in XY's

[quote name='Chewett' timestamp='1338566363' post='113302'] whats the reasoning behind 3 teams? having this number makes it much harder to balance the teams. From what i read, you are assigning people to teams yes? Whats the definition of "devolp" one quest per day, Since you didnt use "create" or "host" it sounds like they just need to continue one from a previous day if necessary. the scoring process sounds convoluted and open to abuse, i can have a private discussion of anyone who wants to abuse this system. if its during 3 days, and you say "develop" one quest per day, that equates to 3 quests, assuming you mean create instead of develop. Why not run it for 9 days, giving each time a full 3 days to do their own stuff. If all the other teams are working on their own quests, there will be a lack of people who are from the other teams, as some people will be working on quests and such surely? there is probably more to say from me [/quote] Three teams was an idea of a player on the first meeting. Why not? Yes it's hard to balance, but somehow it balances the total number of quests for 3 days. Well by develop i mean create at least one quest per day (NEW one) 9 days is too much. Basically won't last that long because I at least can't run it for so long. Scoring system, well any suggestions then?

Results of Our Second Meeting: If everybody agrees this will be the final rules for the MD Summer Fest. Please post if you guys see any flaws or issues. MagicDuel Summer Fest When: MD Summer Fest will take place on July for three days. Summary: Apart of my quests, which will be open to everybody, there will be teams quests and participants will have one week to sign up during June, and independent participations. According to First Meeting, it was agreed to divide the participants in three groups. Team XY competes in team Z quest. Team XZ competes in Y's and so on. Each group should have (as much as possible):[list] [*]same amount of members [*]players with coding ability (as much balanced as possible) [*]max viability in times zones as possible [/list] [last two points will be taken in consideration during sign up and dividing process] After it: [list] [*]Each group will pick up a Leader. [*]Each group will hopefully have a hidden forum section (I'll talk with Chew when the moment comes) to develop ideas or plan quests. [*]Each group will develop at least but not limited to 1 quest per day. [*]Each team will assign as much checkpoints as possible (if possible) to their quests (4) that will allow the teams and at the end an average will be taken for the score. [/list] Scoring system: The Team that creates the quest will assign a score based on how many checkpoints every team passed or by completion. Every quest will have x number of checkpoints (or none) and reaching one is worth one point. Completing the full quest is worth another point or just one if there isn't a check point. That means that if I complete a quest with 2 checkpoints and I only reach to the first, I completed an average of 33% of the quest. If I compete on a quest with five checkpoints and i get 3 points I have 50% and so on. At the end the averages will be summed and divided into the amount of quests. The team with the higher average wins. Checkpoints number must be established at the beginning of each quest. [The checkpoints can vary in terms on how much they are worth of, but then make sure to establish the values before the quest begin.] So what makes us to be sure a team doesn't make an impossible quest? The competing team will receive five points if any of the other teams manages to solve the entire quest. That means that the team will make not an easy quest, but only compete-able so that they get the possibility of getting five points and the possibility to the enemy to participate. NOTE: Teams won't get points for any independent participation that completes their quests. Independent participations. If you did not signed up for the teams but you still want to participate, you will be able to do so, but won't compete against them, but instead against all other independent players. Same rules apply but you don't have to create a quest. You will participate in a team quest and they will assign you points that at the end will get divided into the total amount of quests to get an average. The player with highest average gets something. FINALLY Here is the Log [log= Second Meeting] [01/06/12 17:00] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]hi [01/06/12 17:02] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b] [[url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/12389-md-summer-fest-meeting/page__st__20#entry113267"]Forum link[/url]] [01/06/12 17:02] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]that's the summary of the previous discussion [01/06/12 17:03] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]So we willl start off with doubts. Any doubts/concerns regarding the first meeting? [01/06/12 17:03] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]anything that you guys would like to discuss? [01/06/12 17:05] [b]Fenrar:[/b]How many of us have good coding knowledge? [01/06/12 17:05] [b]apophys:[/b]Good question. [01/06/12 17:05] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]that shall be posted on sign up [01/06/12 17:05] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]I mean [01/06/12 17:06] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]every player who sign up should post available time zones and coding abilities if any [01/06/12 17:07] [b]apophys:[/b]I was thinking that 6 quests per team might be a bit much to code in a month's time. [01/06/12 17:07] [b]apophys:[/b]But it of course depends on their complexity and the number of coders... [01/06/12 17:08] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]ok first issue: quest should have a time limit [01/06/12 17:08] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]I was thinking on a max of one hour? [01/06/12 17:08] [b]Fenrar:[/b]Do we have an approximate number? 2 coders per grp? or only one? [01/06/12 17:08] [b]Fenrar:[/b]or ten? [01/06/12 17:08] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]That's something I can't tell [01/06/12 17:09] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]Depends on how many sign up [01/06/12 17:09] [b]apophys:[/b]Time limit for what?... Solving? [01/06/12 17:09] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]yes solving [01/06/12 17:09] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]more or less it should take a max X amount of time [01/06/12 17:10] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]one hour should be good i guess. ([color=#888888][i]that's necessary to fill up schedule and to avoid extremely complex quests[/i][/color]) [01/06/12 17:10] [b]apophys:[/b]Well, it depends on the type of quest, firstly... [01/06/12 17:10] [b]Psionivy:[/b]this will prob create issues with ppl not available on a specific time that the quest will be available though [01/06/12 17:11] [b]apophys:[/b]Something lke Fyrd's dentistry cannot have a set time limit. [01/06/12 17:11] [b]Psionivy:[/b]yeah , but since teams will be competing , something like fryds dentistry would be easy i guess [01/06/12 17:11] [b]apophys:[/b]@Psion - it can be done that solving is limited to one hour for each participant, regardless of start time. [01/06/12 17:12] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]well then i must clarify creators to not make something that will take too long on solving? [01/06/12 17:12] [b]Psionivy:[/b]@apophys - i have no idea on coding so if this is possible i guess it solves the issue [01/06/12 17:13] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]to apo- that's posible with the checkpoints, but then it might cause the quest maker to make difficult quests [01/06/12 17:14] [b]Fenrar:[/b]@Psionivy I think we can try small riddles with an answer [01/06/12 17:14] [b]apophys:[/b]Meh, I always disliked time limits. [01/06/12 17:14] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]i can unlimit them if we reduce the number of quests [01/06/12 17:15] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]3 per team and one that last the 3 days? [01/06/12 17:15] [b]Fenrar:[/b]I think we need 1 day... we get new quests everdy day anyway [01/06/12 17:16] [b]apophys:[/b]^ [01/06/12 17:16] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]1 per day? [01/06/12 17:16] [b]apophys:[/b]More accurately, we can limit the quest to go from 00:00 one day to 00:00 the next day. [01/06/12 17:16] [b]Fenrar:[/b]every day is a new round imho, nah it can be 5, but the limit is 00:00 server time [01/06/12 17:16] [b]apophys:[/b]Or something like that. [01/06/12 17:16] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]Fenrar nods[/i][/color] [01/06/12 17:18] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]hmmm... [01/06/12 17:18] [b]Fenrar:[/b]..sooo.. lets say 5/day, 00:00 deadline [01/06/12 17:18] [b]Fenrar:[/b]is there anything wrong with it BFH? [01/06/12 17:18] [b]apophys:[/b]5/day of what? [01/06/12 17:19] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]yes of what? [01/06/12 17:19] [b]Chewett:[/b]limtiting quest times limit quests [01/06/12 17:19] [b]Fenrar:[/b]quests of course [01/06/12 17:19] [b]Psionivy:[/b]that would be 16 quests for each team, it may be a bit too much [01/06/12 17:19] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]5 per day is too much [01/06/12 17:19] [b]apophys:[/b]^ [01/06/12 17:19] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]Maebius smiles[/i][/color] [01/06/12 17:20] [b]Chewett:[/b]may i speak? [01/06/12 17:20] [b]Fenrar:[/b]all right, it depends on the participants, i am speakin about the main rule [01/06/12 17:20] [b]apophys:[/b]Please do, Chewy. [01/06/12 17:20] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]yes chew i guess it's better reducing the number of quests created [01/06/12 17:20] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]y [01/06/12 17:20] [b]Chewett:[/b]firstly, if you are limiting quests to a day, it will limit the quests [01/06/12 17:21] [b]Chewett:[/b]some of the more fun quests are not done in half an hr or something [01/06/12 17:21] [b]Chewett:[/b]some of them are patience, needing time [01/06/12 17:21] [b]Chewett:[/b]specifying that quests can only run over a day, is stupid [01/06/12 17:21] [b]Chewett:[/b]secondarily, if you are only runnig X quest on day Y, people who cant make Y will miss it entirely [01/06/12 17:22] [b]Chewett:[/b]if you have 3 teams all making one quest a day, its going to be major competition for people [01/06/12 17:22] [b]Chewett:[/b]if you, instead, gave each team a period of 3 days or so, saying "run whatever quests you want through the 3 days" they can then decide how they want to do it [01/06/12 17:22] [b]Chewett:[/b]iving them a lot more freedom than, "one per day" [01/06/12 17:22] [b]Chewett:[/b]which, might overall be more fun, as they can plan things much more easily, and have some "starting" and "ending" ideas [01/06/12 17:23] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]but that can affect score system? [01/06/12 17:23] [b]Chewett:[/b]having some quests that take short periods, and ones that stretch over the entire time [01/06/12 17:23] [b]Chewett:[/b]if you presume that iv had time to read about a score system, yuo are incorrect [01/06/12 17:23] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]i mean without x amount i can't define x number to tell who wins? [01/06/12 17:23] [b]Chewett:[/b]you just yimmed me, im blatting out random stuff [01/06/12 17:24] [b]Chewett:[/b]if you are going for a rigid scoreing system, then you are going to make the quests rigid, and with that boring [01/06/12 17:25] [b]Chewett:[/b]if you want rigid quests, similarly with the scoring system, fine, buts its going to be terribly automated [01/06/12 17:25] [b]Chewett:[/b]when you make a quest, you rarely have an idea of how long its going to take someone [01/06/12 17:25] [b]Chewett:[/b]many quests are lengthened/shortened because they were too hard or easy [01/06/12 17:26] [b]Chewett:[/b]unless someone does extensive testing, quests will be too long and not finished, or too short and just be rubbish [01/06/12 17:26] [b]Chewett:[/b]wheras normally you have time where yuou can change it around [01/06/12 17:26] [b]Chewett:[/b]if you are limiting someone to one day, then "oh well your chance is up, bad luck" [01/06/12 17:26] [b]Fenrar:[/b]It is a competiton. [01/06/12 17:27] [b]Chewett:[/b]doesnt mean it should be fun for everyone [01/06/12 17:27] [b]Chewett:[/b]or, am i getting this wrong, is this meant to be statically boring and automated? [01/06/12 17:27] [b]Chewett:[/b] [01/06/12 17:28] [b]Chewett:[/b]im just throwing ideas out, from what iv seen before, organising time periods and such for quests is a bad idea [01/06/12 17:28] [b]Chewett:[/b]i dont really have time to be here to be frank, nor have i had time to read your records [01/06/12 17:28] [b]Chewett:[/b]i wasnt avalible last time since it was announced, and am only here since someone bothered me [01/06/12 17:28] [b]Chewett:[/b]im just here to give my view [01/06/12 17:28] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]Fenrar smiles[/i][/color] [01/06/12 17:29] [b]Fenrar:[/b]Well, my view is different, that is for sure. [01/06/12 17:29] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]thanks for giving your view chew [01/06/12 17:30] [b]Chewett:[/b]you mean a very small fraction of my view. [01/06/12 17:30] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]we will keep up discussing it if you need to leave [01/06/12 17:30] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]Fen your view? [01/06/12 17:30] [b]Chewett:[/b]i dont have time for it all, yes, im going to run now, yim me [01/06/12 17:30] [b]Chewett:[/b]i might get time to reply on forum, otherwise yim BFH [01/06/12 17:30] [b]Chewett:[/b]laters peoples [01/06/12 17:30] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]k thnx [01/06/12 17:30] [b]apophys:[/b]cya Chewy. [01/06/12 17:30] [b]Fenrar:[/b]Let's see Fyrd's riddles for example... they are boring? I don't think so. You can solve one in 10 minutes or maybe weeks... depends on you. [01/06/12 17:31] [b]Fenrar:[/b]bye Chewwtt [01/06/12 17:32] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]ok agreed, but I don't get the point? [01/06/12 17:32] [b]Fenrar:[/b]There are riddles I will never solve, cuz they are too difficult... [01/06/12 17:33] [b]Fenrar:[/b]... is this competition planned for 3 days right? [01/06/12 17:33] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]yes [01/06/12 17:33] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]that won't change [01/06/12 17:33] [b]Psionivy:[/b]the only prob i see with non defining at least some of the variables ([color=#888888][i]time, number of quests etc[/i][/color]) is that it won't be easy to make a fair scoring system for the quest makers [01/06/12 17:34] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]yes score if the issue as I pointed out. [01/06/12 17:35] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]but chew also have the point of "fun can be missed if limited" [01/06/12 17:35] [b]apophys:[/b]I think Chewy's idea is best, so the teams can decide themselves whether to do all quests over 3 days or split them to one a day plus extras over 3 days, or 2 a day. [01/06/12 17:35] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]then how to score? [01/06/12 17:36] [b]apophys:[/b]How is the scoring affected? Score gets only dealt with at the end, and all quests will be complete after 3 days, guaranteed. [01/06/12 17:36] [b]Psionivy:[/b]if we just set the number of quests for each team and the number of checkpoints it could still be done [01/06/12 17:37] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]with the part of unlimited quests [01/06/12 17:37] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]i mean x team can make 5 but y could make7 [01/06/12 17:38] [b]Psionivy:[/b]let's say that all teams should make 5 quests ([color=#888888][i]random number[/i][/color]) and all have 4 checkpoints [01/06/12 17:38] [b]Psionivy:[/b]and all teams should have at least 1 quest running on each day [01/06/12 17:38] [b]apophys:[/b]Hmm... maybe scores could be divided by number of total quests... [01/06/12 17:38] [b]Seigheart:[/b]I'm here [01/06/12 17:38] [b]apophys:[/b]Hi Seig. [01/06/12 17:39] [b]Seigheart:[/b]Hey Apophys [01/06/12 17:39] [b]Fenrar:[/b]Hello [01/06/12 17:39] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]that can work as average yes [01/06/12 17:39] [b]Psionivy:[/b]it leaves the freedom on the teams to decide time, difficulty and other things i can't think right now [01/06/12 17:40] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]ok sec let me change things to unlimited part to see if everybody agrees [01/06/12 17:40] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]brb [01/06/12 17:41] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]so we will score in base of checkpoints still? [01/06/12 17:41] [b]Seigheart:[/b]So what are we deciding? [01/06/12 17:41] [b]apophys:[/b]Problem with checkpoints is that not every quest can have checkpoints. [01/06/12 17:42] [b]apophys:[/b]Specifically, there's a quest idea that Fyrd came up with, containing voting. [01/06/12 17:42] [b]Psionivy:[/b]we could try something different [01/06/12 17:42] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]ok [01/06/12 17:42] [b]Psionivy:[/b]instead of standar checkpoints [01/06/12 17:42] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]by completion? [01/06/12 17:43] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]yes pls continue psi [01/06/12 17:43] [b]Psionivy:[/b]say that one quest could have 4 checkpoints so 5 points if won [01/06/12 17:43] [b]Psionivy:[/b]and another one could have only 3 [01/06/12 17:43] [b]Psionivy:[/b]so assign 4 points on second quest [01/06/12 17:43] [b]Psionivy:[/b]if one can't have any, make it worth 1 point [01/06/12 17:43] [b]apophys:[/b]We could allot something like 20 points per team to split up as they see fit. [01/06/12 17:44] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]also works as avaerage [01/06/12 17:44] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]average [01/06/12 17:44] [b]Psionivy:[/b]and still keep the avarage ([color=#888888][i]taking in consideration quest point worth as well[/i][/color]) [01/06/12 17:44] [b]Psionivy:[/b]even if the teams don't have the same max points [01/06/12 17:44] [b]Psionivy:[/b]a score system could be made [01/06/12 17:44] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]the idea of assigning checkpoints to the quests that can have one is less limiting to the 20 apo [01/06/12 17:45] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]yes [01/06/12 17:45] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]agree with psi on that one. [01/06/12 17:46] [b]Fenrar:[/b]think there are two things: difficulty and time ([color=#888888][i]checkpoints[/i][/color]) Difficulty is a multiplier for a certain quest, checkpoint is a checkpoint. A quest can be ony checkpoint only. [01/06/12 17:47] [b]Psionivy:[/b]i guess it's up to the creators to judje fair about the points they wil award each quest [01/06/12 17:47] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]i doubt an enemy will multiply the points to the countrary? [01/06/12 17:47] [b]Fenrar:[/b]agreed [01/06/12 17:47] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]that's what will the reviews will help me grant fairness [01/06/12 17:48] [b]Psionivy:[/b]and the review of the other 2 teams would be taken in consideration on how "fair" the point assigning was [01/06/12 17:48] [b]Seigheart:[/b]lol [01/06/12 17:48] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]Oo that are chekpoints for no? [01/06/12 17:48] [b]apophys:[/b]I still think there should be an interface on each quest for the participants to give it a score. [01/06/12 17:49] [b]apophys:[/b]When it's done. [01/06/12 17:49] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]ok i'll make forms for that apo [01/06/12 17:50] [b]Fenrar:[/b]That is good. [01/06/12 17:50] [b]Psionivy:[/b]i would prefer a review for each quest than just a score ([color=#888888][i]after you finish it[/i][/color]) so you can explain what you liked and what you didn't [01/06/12 17:51] [b]apophys:[/b]That would be what the forum is for. [01/06/12 17:51] [b]Fenrar:[/b]Did I take it right? The participants vote for quest difficulty at the end, the average is a multiplier for each chekpoints ([color=#888888][i]1pt[/i][/color]) [01/06/12 17:52] [b]apophys:[/b]I don't think they should vote for difficulty, but for enjoyment. [01/06/12 17:52] [b]Maebius:[/b]Hey, Sieg, did that script work for you? [01/06/12 17:52] [b]Psionivy:[/b]my point is that a score without a verification of why you put that score could be abused from one team on other teams quest in order to try and win [01/06/12 17:52] [b]Fenrar:[/b]apo, nice. [01/06/12 17:53] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]ok [01/06/12 17:53] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]let's summarize so far [01/06/12 17:53] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]MD Summer Fest will take place on July for three days. [01/06/12 17:53] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]Apart of my quests, which will be open to everybody ([color=#888888][i]those who sign up or not[/i][/color]) , there will be teams quests and participants will have one week to sign up during June. [01/06/12 17:53] [b]apophys:[/b]You'd have to be a very sad person inside to vote a 0 on a quest you really enjoyed, but you have a point, psion. [01/06/12 17:54] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]According to First Meeting, it was agreed to divide the participants in three groups. Team XY competes in team Z quest. Team XZ competes in Y's and so on. [01/06/12 17:54] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]Each group should have ([color=#888888][i]as much as possible[/i][/color]) : same amount of members players with coding ability ([color=#888888][i]as much balanced as possible[/i][/color]) ,max viability in times zones as possible [01/06/12 17:54] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b][last two points will be taken in consideration during sign up and dividing process] [01/06/12 17:54] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]ok new stuff appears now [01/06/12 17:54] [b]apophys:[/b]All quests should be open to everyone not on the creator team. [01/06/12 17:55] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]oO [01/06/12 17:55] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]ok explain [01/06/12 17:55] [b]Psionivy:[/b]agree on that, some ppl may lack the time to participate in creation, but still wanna try a few quests [01/06/12 17:56] [b]Fenrar:[/b]egreed [01/06/12 17:56] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]they can try but should be inside a team to won? [01/06/12 17:56] [b]Fenrar:[/b]Agreed, it is true. [01/06/12 17:56] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]win* [01/06/12 17:56] [b]Fenrar:[/b]They are not in the competition I guess, they are only "questing" [01/06/12 17:57] [b]Fenrar:[/b]... am I mistaken? [01/06/12 17:57] [b]Psionivy:[/b]@BFH - Well, sure about the wining part, but some ppl enjoy to solve quests just for the enjoyment [01/06/12 17:57] [b]apophys:[/b]Well, if you're unaffiliated, you don't get score for a team, duh. [01/06/12 17:57] [b]Fenrar:[/b]..but it is fun! [01/06/12 17:57] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]the can participate but how we shall reward them? [01/06/12 17:57] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]make them compete alone for a score? [01/06/12 17:58] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]i mean putting them to compete vs the 3 teams> [01/06/12 17:58] [b]apophys:[/b]Hm... best quester overall? [01/06/12 17:58] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]? [01/06/12 17:58] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]yes i can reward that [01/06/12 17:58] [b]Fenrar:[/b]Well, mabye I am new to to this realm, but there are not many things around... I would do it for fun. [01/06/12 17:59] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]let me change that sec [01/06/12 17:59] [b]apophys:[/b]You could reward the top quester from each group, plus the unaffiliated group. So 4 total rewarded. [01/06/12 18:00] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]not fair for a team effort [01/06/12 18:00] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]a whole team will get rewarded [01/06/12 18:00] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]that's for sure [01/06/12 18:01] [b]apophys:[/b]Point. [01/06/12 18:01] [b]Fenrar:[/b]Sure thing. [01/06/12 18:02] [b]apophys:[/b]Maybe then reward the top quester from each of the unrewarded groups, plus unaffiliated. [01/06/12 18:02] [b]Psionivy:[/b]then you could make a team reward and 1 or 2 solo rewards for ppl not in teams ([color=#888888][i]for the event[/i][/color]) [01/06/12 18:02] [b]apophys:[/b]so 3. [01/06/12 18:03] [b]darkraptor:[/b]I remember to play alone ([color=#888888][i]because i got too late at MD[/i][/color]) a BFH quest.. and i counted as a team.. of 1 [01/06/12 18:03] [b]Psionivy:[/b]they could get the scores for each teams quest ([color=#888888][i]same as with the teams[/i][/color]) and the top wins the quester event [01/06/12 18:04] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]yes for seven differences? [01/06/12 18:04] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]you got secodn? [01/06/12 18:04] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]second? [01/06/12 18:04] [b]apophys:[/b]I want it split up like this because unaffiliated would have a serious advantage at top quester; thay can do all quests. [01/06/12 18:04] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]i don't remember [01/06/12 18:04] [b]darkraptor:[/b]yes [01/06/12 18:05] [b]Psionivy:[/b] ([color=#888888][i]i wasn't talking about rewarding "a top contester" for members of the 3 teams, just for ppl that are unaffiliated[/i][/color]) [01/06/12 18:05] [b]darkraptor:[/b]you have saved 2 prizes :-P [01/06/12 18:06] [b]Fenrar:[/b]Psio, it can be done, the "fun meter" works there.. but the unaffiliated should be rewarded separately ([color=#888888][i]because of all quest as mwntioned[/i][/color]) [01/06/12 18:06] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]Independent participations. If you did not signed up for the teams but you still want to participate, you will be able to do so, but won't compete against them, but instead against all other independe [01/06/12 18:07] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]independent players. [01/06/12 18:07] [b]Fenrar:[/b]perfect [01/06/12 18:07] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]Same rules apply but you don't have to create a quest. You will participate in a team quets and they will assign you points that at the end will get divided into the total amount of quests to get an a [01/06/12 18:07] [b]Psionivy:[/b]yeah [01/06/12 18:07] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]an average. The player with highest average gets something. [01/06/12 18:07] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]agreed? [01/06/12 18:07] [b]apophys:[/b]+1 from me. [01/06/12 18:08] [b]darkraptor:[/b]if you are on a team you can't compete alone right? [01/06/12 18:08] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]ok any issues still missing? [01/06/12 18:08] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]nop [01/06/12 18:08] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]that would be traition!! [01/06/12 18:09] [b]darkraptor:[/b]..if you got unlucky the team.. you are doomed.. you will be 1 against many [01/06/12 18:09] [b]darkraptor:[/b]but i agree [01/06/12 18:10] [b]Psionivy:[/b] ([color=#888888][i]don't forget that teams compete for quest making as well, not just solving[/i][/color]) [01/06/12 18:10] [b]apophys:[/b]So, how exactly will teams be scored, as it currently stands? [01/06/12 18:11] [b]Fenrar:[/b]...and I agree with Chewett, this way time limit is not needed, the quests could remain after the contest. [01/06/12 18:11] [b]Fenrar:[/b] ([color=#888888][i]or the top 10 maybe[/i][/color]) [01/06/12 18:12] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]sec [01/06/12 18:12] [b]apophys:[/b] ([color=#888888][i]Of course, depending on the quest; not every quest can be run indefinitely.[/i][/color]) [01/06/12 18:12] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b] [[url="http://magicduel.com/players/%20%3Cfont%20color="]*[i]BFH_Lightning[/i]* ' target='_blank'> [color=#305681]*[i]BFH_Lightning[/i]*[/color] \'s profile[/url]] [01/06/12 18:12] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]bahh enter my profile [01/06/12 18:12] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]and check the details [01/06/12 18:13] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]click mp link [01/06/12 18:13] [b]Grido:[/b]might want to wipe that from chat, goes screwy if clicked [01/06/12 18:13] [b]Grido:[/b]or it did last time i did similar [01/06/12 18:14] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]that's greedos fault! [01/06/12 18:14] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]*BFH Lightning* [/i][/color] [01/06/12 18:14] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]*BFH Lightning* [/i][/color] [01/06/12 18:14] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]*BFH Lightning* [/i][/color] [01/06/12 18:14] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]*BFH Lightning* [/i][/color] [01/06/12 18:14] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]*BFH Lightning* [/i][/color] [01/06/12 18:14] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]*BFH Lightning* [/i][/color] [01/06/12 18:14] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]*BFH Lightning* [/i][/color] [01/06/12 18:14] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]*BFH Lightning* [/i][/color] [01/06/12 18:14] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]*BFH Lightning* [/i][/color] [01/06/12 18:14] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]everybody agrees with the deatils if not yell [01/06/12 18:14] [b]apophys:[/b]it gives invalid player id. Not so bad. [01/06/12 18:15] [b]Grido:[/b]Actually technically is my fault, made you lho an all [01/06/12 18:15] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b] [01/06/12 18:15] [b]Grido:[/b]youtube is worse [01/06/12 18:15] [b]apophys:[/b]^ [01/06/12 18:16] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]ohh i'm no longer knight of seven.. too bad the quest could never be finished! that's Mur's fault! [01/06/12 18:16] [b]Psionivy:[/b]what quest ? [01/06/12 18:17] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]one that couldn't be done for anniv [01/06/12 18:18] [b]apophys:[/b]I have an issue with "the team with the highest average wins" [01/06/12 18:18] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]ok develop your point pls? [01/06/12 18:18] [b]apophys:[/b]Some quests have to be completed, guaranteed. Specifically something that requires voting. [01/06/12 18:19] [b]apophys:[/b]That would be free points. [01/06/12 18:19] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]why? [01/06/12 18:19] [b]apophys:[/b]Doing this system would discourage making that type of quest. [01/06/12 18:19] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]if a quest is completing will give 100% points [01/06/12 18:19] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]100%* [01/06/12 18:20] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]why it would discourage? [01/06/12 18:20] [b]apophys:[/b]Oh, never mind, it depends on what is being voted for. [01/06/12 18:21] [b]*Lightsage*:[/b]It would discourage from making quests that might not be completed. [01/06/12 18:21] [b]*Lightsage*:[/b]It would encourage easy quests. [01/06/12 18:21] [b]apophys:[/b]I was thinking that points would be spread to everyone voting. [01/06/12 18:21] [b]apophys:[/b]Points could be only given to the winner of voting. [01/06/12 18:21] [b]Fenrar:[/b] ([color=#888888][i]erm... is it only me, who does not understand quest "requiring voting? sry[/i][/color]) [01/06/12 18:22] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]to lighty- not necessary easy, but fair [01/06/12 18:22] [b]darkraptor:[/b]What if a completed quest gives 5 points to the organizing team? [01/06/12 18:22] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]i mean a quest like my puzzles would be totally unfair and i would get minus points for it [01/06/12 18:22] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b] [01/06/12 18:22] [b]apophys:[/b]The specific thing I had in mind was that people sumbit ideas into a quest for half the quest's run, then vote for the best in stage 2. [01/06/12 18:22] [b]darkraptor:[/b]and 5 points to each completer [01/06/12 18:23] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]but a decent quest rated goodly by the entemies will award all points? [01/06/12 18:23] [b]*Lightsage*:[/b]Ah well can't stay. [01/06/12 18:23] [b]*Lightsage*:[/b]I'd argue the point through. [01/06/12 18:23] [b]apophys:[/b]The person who submitted the winning idea wins. [01/06/12 18:23] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]aww argue argue!! [01/06/12 18:24] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]that would encourage easy quests as well no dark? [01/06/12 18:24] [b]Psionivy:[/b]@Apophys - That would encourage team effort in submitting ideas in order for their team to win sounds good to my ears [01/06/12 18:25] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]apo develop cause i don't get it [01/06/12 18:25] [b]darkraptor:[/b]no. since all competitors would gain 5 points and the organizer team only 5 [01/06/12 18:26] [b]darkraptor:[/b]so it would be in interest of the organizer that the quest is completable [01/06/12 18:26] [b]darkraptor:[/b]but not east [01/06/12 18:26] [b]darkraptor:[/b]easy [01/06/12 18:26] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]sound sgood [01/06/12 18:26] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]apo your idea? [01/06/12 18:26] [b]darkraptor:[/b]a perfect quest would be have only 1 winner [01/06/12 18:27] [b]apophys:[/b]Fyrd's idea, not mine.... [01/06/12 18:27] [b]darkraptor:[/b]in the organizer point of view [01/06/12 18:27] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]fyrds then? [01/06/12 18:27] [b]apophys:[/b]Don't worry about it. I see how it can be worked into the system. [01/06/12 18:28] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]ok adding dark idea [01/06/12 18:29] [b]apophys:[/b]By the way, one point per checkpoint is a bit restricting; I recommend allowing varied points per checkpoint. Like 1 for the first, 2 for the 2nd, 5 for the 3rd. [01/06/12 18:29] [b]apophys:[/b]If the creators choose to. [01/06/12 18:30] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]checkpoints points won't affect average [01/06/12 18:30] [b]apophys:[/b]And attempting to balance the points awarded per quest that way. [01/06/12 18:31] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]things is that then they will have to make sure to post before the quest begins the amounts of checkpoints and the worth of each [01/06/12 18:31] [b]apophys:[/b]Point. [01/06/12 18:31] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]more work for me >> EVIL! [01/06/12 18:32] [b]apophys:[/b]But still, that's only if they choose to take the option. [01/06/12 18:33] [b]Fenrar:[/b]why not voting for every checkpoint then? the average of the votes is the quest rate [01/06/12 18:33] [b]apophys:[/b]Having the option in the first place, even if discouraged, is good, I think. [01/06/12 18:33] [b]apophys:[/b]Too much voting, Fen. [01/06/12 18:33] [b]Fenrar:[/b]kk [01/06/12 18:33] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]i'll make forms. actully i'll use a free internet service not planning to code it [01/06/12 18:34] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]that should be enought for me to have a view of the quest [01/06/12 18:34] [b]darkraptor:[/b]i think with my idea the voting should count nothing to score [01/06/12 18:34] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]and with darks idea, each team will like to get five points for those who complete it so i guess it will be even more fair [01/06/12 18:35] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]everyone agrees with dark? [01/06/12 18:36] [b]darkraptor:[/b] ([color=#888888][i]this will force team to make solvable quests but not impossible.. i think[/i][/color]) [01/06/12 18:36] [b]Fenrar:[/b]Sure. [01/06/12 18:37] [b]apophys:[/b]I agree with it. [01/06/12 18:38] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]ok [01/06/12 18:38] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]So what makes us to be sure a team doesn't make an impossible quest? The competing team will receive five points if any of the other teams manages to solve the entire quest. [01/06/12 18:38] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]. That means that the team will make not an easy quest, but only competeable so that they get the possibility of getting five points and the possibility to the enemy to participate. [01/06/12 18:39] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]apophys gives a thumbs up[/i][/color] [01/06/12 18:39] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]Fenrar nods twice[/i][/color] [01/06/12 18:39] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]NOTE [01/06/12 18:40] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]teams won't get points for any independent participant who solves a quest. [01/06/12 18:40] [b]Psionivy:[/b]agreed, could be highily abused otherwise [01/06/12 18:40] [b]darkraptor:[/b]agree [01/06/12 18:40] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]yes [01/06/12 18:41] [b]darkraptor:[/b]since its mainly a team competitton [01/06/12 18:41] [b]Fenrar:[/b]aye [01/06/12 18:42] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]ok any other issues? [01/06/12 18:45] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]i guess we are done then.. I shall post now in forums the almost final version or the fest rules [01/06/12 18:45] [b]Fenrar:[/b]Thank you. [01/06/12 18:45] [b]darkraptor:[/b]Thank you BFH [01/06/12 18:45] [b]apophys:[/b] [01/06/12 18:46] [b]Fenrar:[/b]See you around all... ([color=#888888][i]gtg[/i][/color]) [01/06/12 18:46] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]thanks you guys [01/06/12 18:47] [b]ZenTao:[/b]Hello [01/06/12 18:47] [b]darkraptor:[/b]Hello Zen [01/06/12 18:48] [b]ZenTao:[/b]anyone here enjoy rap music? [01/06/12 18:48] [b]:[/b][color=#999999][i]*BFH Lightning* failed to cast a spell[/i][/color] [01/06/12 18:48] [b]ZenTao:[/b]I mean I love all types but from where I grew up rap was all around [01/06/12 18:48] [b]:[/b][color=#FF9900][b][Spell][/b] [i]KBOOM![/i][/color] [/log] Also I must add, thanks to everybody who discussed the issues This is a whole merge of everyone's ideas.

That's the whole idea of a second meeting Pls do so PS My post merged initially with urs chew Oo Odd

MagicDuel Summer Fest When: MD Summer Fest will take place on July for three days. Summary: Apart of my quests, which will be open to everybody (those who sign up or not), there will be teams quests and participants will have one week to sign up during June. According to First Meeting, it was agreed to divide the participants in three groups. Team XY competes in team Z quest. Team XZ competes in Y's and so on. Each group should have (as much as possible): same amount of members players with coding ability (as much balanced as possible) max viability in times zones as possible [last two points will be taken in consideration during sign up and dividing process] After it: Each group will pickup a Leader. Each group will hopefully have a hidden forum section (I'll talk with Chew when the moment comes) to develop ideas or plan quests. {TO DISCUSS} Each group will develop two quests per day (limited time maybe an hour [pending to DISCUSS] and one that will last the three days of the competition. Each team will assign checkpoints to their quests (4) that will allow the teams to score even if they doesn't finish the full Quest. [This will be discussed as part of scoring system] Scoring system: As I told druing the meeting I would try to develop a scoring system and well here it is. We will discuss the flaws during the meeting. The Team that creates the quest will assign a score based on how many checkpoints every team passed. Every quest will have 4 checkpoints and reaching one is worth one point. Completing the full quest is worth another point. That means that if I complete a quest i get 5 points. If I reach the third checkpoint i get 3 and so on. So what makes us to be sure a team doesn't make an impossible quest? The competing teams will review the quests and based on their reviews I will have the power to penalize the team who created the quest. That means that if the quest was viased instead of hurting the enemy you hurt yourself. There are two other teams so their opinions should be similar to make me take any decission.

I have it ready, but I was planning to post just before the meeting so that things can be discussed, or I can post if you guys wish? Let me know. BTW: Chew, can you assist to the meeting? I would like to hear about the issues you found. It's quite important If not can you send me a message or post somewhere so that we can discuss regarding them? Thanks pal

[quote name='Curiose' timestamp='1338423106' post='113199'] If you need people to help with events, why not ask? Or are you too busy to do that, too? [/quote] That's the idea with the meetings Read chat log and you will realize that I'm dividing the quest making and the event to allow everybody participate, create, share something and enjoy it on the way That's the point dear, no need to be rude, I think.

Well due to a miracle for Chew and Seigh and the people who couldn't reach... Just 3 mins before the meeting, I lost electrical power supply and well meeting got ruined. So... Moved to June 1 around 17 server time. Sorry to those who waited for me today. It's AEE PR Fault!! >>

[quote name='Chewett' timestamp='1338394770' post='113171'] one days notice wonderful. Can i suggest, in future, announcing events a week in advance, so that people can have time to prepare. I have shedualled something during that timeslot, meaning i cant come, but if i had known earlier i could have done it yesterday, have fun [/quote] I can't do things like that, unfortunately. I'm extremely busy in rl. And I'm trying to organize an event a month before to allow everybody to participate and to not do all myself. Everybody can comment and discuss here in forum as I told. Any issues will be taken care off. I can't be in multiple places at once so times are variant for meetings.

Okay Okay! Another meeting will take place. Check Triggers! Today at 0:00 server time. (actually 0:00 theorically means tomorrow Day 151)

I announced it on triggers !! (would have summoned all md but HC locked me) you can discuss here. actually feel free to discuss

The first meeting for MD Summer Fest took place today. Here is the Chat Log. Later on a proper summary of the discussion and sign up shall be opened. [log= MD SUMMER FEST] [29/05/12 18:58] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]hello [29/05/12 18:58] [b]JadenDew:[/b]hi~~~ [29/05/12 18:58] [b]Sunfire:[/b]'llo [29/05/12 18:58] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]Today i want to do somekind of organization for md summer fest [29/05/12 18:58] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Hello again BFH. [29/05/12 18:58] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]that will take place on July! [29/05/12 18:59] [b]JadenDew:[/b]Will it has lots of foood~? [29/05/12 18:59] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Wonderful. [29/05/12 19:00] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]Ok so for those who were active last year [29/05/12 19:01] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]I organized MD Xmas Fest which was a 3 days event full of quest. [29/05/12 19:01] [b]Manda:[/b]i hope be in my pc this is really slo [29/05/12 19:01] [b]Manda:[/b]w [29/05/12 19:01] [b]Manda:[/b]. [29/05/12 19:01] [b]Manda:[/b]. [29/05/12 19:01] [b]darkraptor:[/b]3 great days i must say :-P [29/05/12 19:01] [b]JadenDew:[/b]pwesents!! [29/05/12 19:01] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]From it I learn many things. Specially that I can't be online 24 hrs [29/05/12 19:01] [b]darkraptor:[/b]quests! :-D [29/05/12 19:01] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]JadenDew laughs[/i][/color] [29/05/12 19:02] [b]Fenrar:[/b]Back for a bit... hello MDP! [29/05/12 19:02] [b]JadenDew:[/b]nomnoms in shop! [29/05/12 19:02] [b]joshdragon:[/b]That's a good sign. [29/05/12 19:02] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]So I plan to fix the empty spaces of "nothing to do" for this year [29/05/12 19:02] [b]JadenDew:[/b]BFH hardworking~ [29/05/12 19:03] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]So what can we do? Divide in teams that make quests and reward somehow the winning team? [29/05/12 19:03] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]so opinions or ideas? [29/05/12 19:03] [b]Fenrar:[/b] [color=#305681]*[i]reads the note and nods[/i]*[/color] Thanks Josh, I will do so. [29/05/12 19:03] [b]JadenDew:[/b]hrm.. i dunno.. im no good with quests..... [color=#305681]*[i]cringes[/i]*[/color] [29/05/12 19:03] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Do you mean any sorts of quests? Or some specific type? [29/05/12 19:03] [b]JadenDew:[/b]im sure most people would like mroe quests [29/05/12 19:04] [b]darkraptor:[/b]or make a nice schedule using timezones and player availability [29/05/12 19:04] [b]JadenDew:[/b]i second what darkraptor said... [29/05/12 19:04] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]ANY [29/05/12 19:04] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Good idea. Then we could have each group of quest-makers hopefully have at least one person on at a time. [29/05/12 19:04] [b]::::::::[/b][i] [color=#CC0000] Manda asks everyone to mass attack Him until death [/color] [/i]:::::::: [29/05/12 19:05] [b]:[/b][color=#999999][i]*BFH Lightning* failed to cast a spell[/i][/color] [29/05/12 19:05] [b]apophys:[/b]Hello. [29/05/12 19:06] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Hi apophys. [29/05/12 19:06] [b]Fenrar:[/b]Hello apophys. [29/05/12 19:06] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]Ok so two teams with different quests each. X team competes in Y team quests and such? [29/05/12 19:06] [b]apophys:[/b]Hi josh, Fen. [29/05/12 19:06] [b]apophys:[/b]I recommend splitting in 3 [29/05/12 19:07] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]ok three? why ? [29/05/12 19:07] [b]::::::::[/b][i] [color=#CC0000] Quizok asks everyone to mass attack Quizok until death [/color] [/i]:::::::: [29/05/12 19:07] [b]darkraptor:[/b]there is a low number of active players.. [29/05/12 19:08] [b]apophys:[/b]Variety. Last time something like this was done, there were two. [29/05/12 19:08] [b]Quizok:[/b]non dmg def set [29/05/12 19:08] [b]darkraptor:[/b]but apophys have a good point.. [29/05/12 19:09] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]ok variety is a point to consider [29/05/12 19:09] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]btw event will last 3 days as well [29/05/12 19:09] [b]apophys:[/b]Cool. [29/05/12 19:10] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]Btw: Newbs can give their opinions [29/05/12 19:10] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Since there was cake for the anniversary, we should have pie for the summer fest. [29/05/12 19:10] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]The cake was a LIE! [29/05/12 19:10] [b]darkraptor:[/b]the cake was not a lie?? [29/05/12 19:10] [b]apophys:[/b]The cake isn't fully implemented yet; you can't eat it.... [29/05/12 19:11] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]yes!! A LIE! [29/05/12 19:11] [b]JadenDew:[/b]so it's a lie [29/05/12 19:11] [b]joshdragon:[/b]So? It's not a lie, it's just not completely true yet. [29/05/12 19:11] [b]apophys:[/b]Having the current cake be edible by summer would be nice. [29/05/12 19:11] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]ok 3 teams, 3 leaders, how many quests per team? [29/05/12 19:12] [b]JadenDew:[/b]dependant on quest duration i guess? [29/05/12 19:12] [b]apophys:[/b]^ [29/05/12 19:12] [b]joshdragon:[/b]One for every two people on the team. [29/05/12 19:13] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]i want a specific number of quests to balance the points that will determine the winning team [29/05/12 19:13] [b]darkraptor:[/b]i would say 4 quests per team: 1 with a 3 days duration and 1 other per day [29/05/12 19:13] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b] ([color=#888888][i]so that it be fair[/i][/color]) [29/05/12 19:13] [b]darkraptor:[/b]is it low? i never competed on such event.. [29/05/12 19:14] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Oh, yeah. I just assumed each team would have the same number of people. [29/05/12 19:14] [b]apophys:[/b]How about one day for all of one team's quests? [29/05/12 19:14] [b]darkraptor:[/b]that may limit the chances since some players may not be available all days [29/05/12 19:15] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]To josh we will try to balance the number, yes [29/05/12 19:15] [b]apophys:[/b]Point. [29/05/12 19:15] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]taffy wonders what there talking about[/i][/color] [29/05/12 19:15] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]to apo- no as you told we need variety [29/05/12 19:15] [b]AmberRune:[/b]3 teams, 3 days, so 6 maybe? That'd be 2 per team per day [29/05/12 19:15] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]2 per team daily sounds fair [29/05/12 19:15] [b]apophys:[/b]^ [29/05/12 19:16] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]i did many more than two per day alone [29/05/12 19:16] [b]darkraptor:[/b]you are a addict... :-P [29/05/12 19:16] [b]apophys:[/b]^ [29/05/12 19:17] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]SHHSSHH!! That's sa secret =)) [29/05/12 19:17] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]ok so far we have: [29/05/12 19:18] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]3 Days Festival, 3 Teams, 3 Leaders, Same amount of members, 6 quests per team, 1 team will win. [29/05/12 19:18] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]taffy gets up to her feet and walks over to fenrar[/i][/color] [29/05/12 19:19] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]Everybody can win in my quests which will randomly appear to fill up schedule [29/05/12 19:19] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]and secret... Sombody told me about a RACE [29/05/12 19:19] [b]joshdragon:[/b]And how are the teams decided? [29/05/12 19:20] [b]darkraptor:[/b]How about a all event quest.. with a 3 day duration? [29/05/12 19:20] [b]taffy:[/b] [color=#305681]*[i]looks up at the old man[/i]*[/color] excuse me [29/05/12 19:20] [b]apophys:[/b]@josh - IMO, firstly, people with coding ability should be evenly divided. [29/05/12 19:20] [b]darkraptor:[/b] ([color=#888888][i]3 winners ofc.. :-P [/i][/color]) [29/05/12 19:21] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]to josh- there will be a sign up in forums. [29/05/12 19:21] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Okay, thanks for clarification. [29/05/12 19:21] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]since the contest needs planning I'll open it probably today or tomorrow [29/05/12 19:22] [b]Menhir:[/b]trees as defence set [29/05/12 19:22] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]and shall be open for one week [29/05/12 19:22] [b]taffy:[/b]how much honor do i give? [29/05/12 19:22] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]after everybody sign in I'll use my random program to fairly divide the players into teams [29/05/12 19:22] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]and each team pick up a leader [29/05/12 19:23] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]I'll talk with Chewett to open secret/hidden forums for the 3 teams so that you guys can plan the quests [29/05/12 19:23] [b]apophys:[/b]You should try to make sure that no team ends up without any coders, or with one coder doind everything. [29/05/12 19:24] [b]taffy:[/b] [29/05/12 19:24] [b]darkraptor:[/b]i hope your random program have Time zone in account :-P [29/05/12 19:24] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]taffy sits down[/i][/color] [29/05/12 19:24] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]yes that's important as well [29/05/12 19:24] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]aww timezones is a problem [29/05/12 19:24] [b]darkraptor:[/b]indeed.. [29/05/12 19:24] [b]joshdragon:[/b]So then when we sign up on forum should we say what times we can reliably be online? [29/05/12 19:25] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]yes time zones and coding abbility [29/05/12 19:26] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]the dark ideas of 3 days duration quest can be good but do you guys think the teams will do another q? [29/05/12 19:27] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b] ([color=#888888][i]or perhaps 5 quests and 1 that last 3 days?[/i][/color]) [29/05/12 19:27] [b]darkraptor:[/b]7 quests! !7! [29/05/12 19:27] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]lol everybody agrees? [29/05/12 19:28] [b]apophys:[/b]or 5 quests, one per day plus 2 3-day ones. [29/05/12 19:28] [b]joshdragon:[/b]YES. [29/05/12 19:28] [b]joshdragon:[/b]!7! [29/05/12 19:28] [b]apophys:[/b]When is the festival? How many weeks? [29/05/12 19:28] [b]darkraptor:[/b]2 per day + 1 for 3 days :-P [29/05/12 19:28] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]to apo remember that then it would sum to 6 q for 3 days [29/05/12 19:28] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]too much [29/05/12 19:29] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Apophys, it's in July. [29/05/12 19:29] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]2 per day is better [29/05/12 19:29] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]July for 3 days [29/05/12 19:29] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]i'll give a month for quest planning [29/05/12 19:29] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]to be fair [29/05/12 19:30] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]Ok Scoring system [29/05/12 19:30] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]before my ideas for it I want yours [29/05/12 19:32] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Each quest won gets a team points, the score of the quest is determined by the team that makes it. [29/05/12 19:32] [b]joshdragon:[/b]When the event is over, the team with the most points wins? [29/05/12 19:33] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]sounds good. My ideas was 5 points range [29/05/12 19:33] [b]apophys:[/b]Hm... that would encourage making unsolvable quests. [29/05/12 19:33] [b]darkraptor:[/b]indeed [29/05/12 19:34] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Good point. [29/05/12 19:34] [b]darkraptor:[/b]how to control the quests so that the dificulty level is aproximate? [29/05/12 19:34] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]so lets say a team doesn't complete it but gets very close, they must receive something [29/05/12 19:34] [b]apophys:[/b]How about having the winner ([color=#888888][i]s[/i][/color]) of a quest give it a score 1-5 [29/05/12 19:34] [b]apophys:[/b]most total score wins? [29/05/12 19:36] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]but that also leads to the problem of what is they doesn't win a quest [29/05/12 19:37] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]Theme quests, score it based on how well it matches the theme. :ie difficult quests, fun quests etc? >> [29/05/12 19:37] [b]apophys:[/b]It would be in the quest creator's interest to make it solvable, if the quests were rated by winners. [29/05/12 19:37] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]If they don't complete it, they can still say how fun it was. [29/05/12 19:37] [b]AmberRune:[/b]Checkpoints on how much of the quest was completed? Ie, 25%, 50%, 80%. By either quarters of 5ths [29/05/12 19:37] [b]AmberRune:[/b]*or [29/05/12 19:38] [b]darkraptor:[/b]i'm still stuck at : how to control the making of nearly impossible quests? have it been done? [29/05/12 19:38] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Perhaps somebody not competing could judge them? [29/05/12 19:39] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]hmm... [29/05/12 19:39] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]they surely must be solveable. The purpose of this is having fun. [29/05/12 19:40] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]Checkpoints are somehow included in ranging the score [29/05/12 19:41] [b]*MRAlyon*:[/b]SHOUTS: Reward people without do quests!!!! free gifts for all!!!! :-)! [29/05/12 19:41] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]*BFH Lightning* kicks Alyon[/i][/color] [29/05/12 19:41] [b]apophys:[/b]Lolz. [29/05/12 19:41] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]NEVER! [29/05/12 19:41] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]I think Alyon has a good idea. [29/05/12 19:41] [b]*MRAlyon*:[/b]only me then... hihihi [29/05/12 19:42] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]lol!! Only confused santa do that! [29/05/12 19:42] [b]darkraptor:[/b]i see all teams making very hard quests in hope to have a better chance to win [29/05/12 19:42] [b]*MRAlyon*:[/b]then I will ask to change your name also [29/05/12 19:42] [b]darkraptor:[/b]that will probably spoil the fun [29/05/12 19:42] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]what if we penalize imposible quests? [29/05/12 19:42] [b]*MRAlyon*:[/b]Confused BFH [29/05/12 19:42] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]joshdragon nods[/i][/color] [29/05/12 19:42] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]lol [29/05/12 19:43] [b]darkraptor:[/b]there comes the judge system again :-( [29/05/12 19:43] [b]darkraptor:[/b]it would be better to avoid it.. if possible.. [29/05/12 19:43] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]So it comes to making really easy quests? >> [29/05/12 19:43] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]aha! [29/05/12 19:43] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]ok as amber said [29/05/12 19:44] [b]*MRAlyon*:[/b]I think should be added the judge system as HC control etc [29/05/12 19:44] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]the team that makes the quests should make some check points ([color=#888888][i]3 for example[/i][/color]) [29/05/12 19:44] [b]darkraptor:[/b]agree [29/05/12 19:44] [b]darkraptor:[/b]or 4 [29/05/12 19:44] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]they will assign the score to the other team according to how many check points they pass [29/05/12 19:44] [b]darkraptor:[/b]:-) [29/05/12 19:45] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]if they finish the quest then full points [29/05/12 19:45] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]the competing team will judge the other team quest [29/05/12 19:46] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]if the score of the other team quest gets lower of x range they lose points ([color=#888888][i]the one who created it[/i][/color]) . if not they stay ok? [29/05/12 19:47] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]the scores shoulwd be submitted to me and I'll be constantly checking that it won't be biased. [29/05/12 19:47] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]sounds ok? [29/05/12 19:48] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]Lone Wolf licks BFH[/i][/color] [29/05/12 19:48] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]ewwwwwwww!! [29/05/12 19:48] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]How dare you Eww my tongue [29/05/12 19:48] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]Do you have no respect for a dog's affection. [29/05/12 19:49] [b]Psionivy:[/b] ([color=#888888][i]for those of that missed the start of the conversation, will you make a forum post with the logs or the details ? [/i][/color]) [29/05/12 19:49] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b] ([color=#888888][i]yes[/i][/color]) [29/05/12 19:49] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]Psionivy smiles at BFH[/i][/color] [29/05/12 19:50] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]*BFH Lightning* smiles[/i][/color] [29/05/12 19:51] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]so everyone agrees with that scoring system idea? [29/05/12 19:51] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]joshdragon nods[/i][/color] [29/05/12 19:51] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]No [29/05/12 19:51] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]I disagree for the sake of not agreeing with everyone else. [29/05/12 19:51] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b] [29/05/12 19:51] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]joshdragon eats Lone Wolf[/i][/color] [29/05/12 19:52] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]Lone Wolf eats joshdragon[/i][/color] [29/05/12 19:52] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]>> [29/05/12 19:52] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]So [29/05/12 19:53] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]As long as I disagree, we have to find a new method? [29/05/12 19:53] [b]Mallos:[/b]Max points for completing a quest would make teams want to make easy quests. Need to find a way to balance the quests being too easy and too hard. [29/05/12 19:53] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]or is this a 'we don't care about this certain player's opinion.' [29/05/12 19:53] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]I thought it was the other team get scores on completing quest. [29/05/12 19:54] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]yes Mallos, and that needs to be implemented in a score system [29/05/12 19:54] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]Would be nice if there were rewards for best quester.. at a hint of motivation. [29/05/12 19:54] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]<.< [29/05/12 19:54] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]yes LW but they can make impossible quests [29/05/12 19:54] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]and anything can happen [29/05/12 19:54] [b]*MRAlyon*:[/b]and good quest should be added 4ever to the game!!! [29/05/12 19:54] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]I thought there was penalty for people not being able to pass x check point. [29/05/12 19:55] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]taffy sits up and takes out an orange pouch[/i][/color] [29/05/12 19:55] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]hmm.. that can be interesting [29/05/12 19:55] [b]*MRAlyon*:[/b]as puzzle in MDA [29/05/12 19:55] [b]Psionivy:[/b]everyone will be able to particepate or in order to do so you will need to be in a team ? [29/05/12 19:55] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]What.. am I just reading what people said wrong.. [29/05/12 19:55] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]champions challenge! [29/05/12 19:55] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]There's 2 teams or multiple? [29/05/12 19:56] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]3 teams [29/05/12 19:56] [b]joshdragon:[/b]Three teams [29/05/12 19:56] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]I want to be on Team Lone Wolf. [29/05/12 19:56] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]No debate about it. [29/05/12 19:56] [b]*MRAlyon*:[/b]not all have got acces to it [29/05/12 19:56] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]I also want Amber and duxie on my team. [29/05/12 19:56] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]everyone can participate as soon as they sign in in a team. otherwise every one can compete in my quests! [29/05/12 19:56] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]<.< [29/05/12 19:56] [b]*MRAlyon*:[/b]and don't like to give acces to all because I gained it in story mode instead of necro... [29/05/12 19:56] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]and Fyrd.. he's a good quest maker. [29/05/12 19:57] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]oh! And apophys, Lightsage. [29/05/12 19:57] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]taffy opens the pouch and lets nine dice each with different unknown symbols on them slide out of the pouch[/i][/color] [29/05/12 19:57] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]Let me just forge their signature on the sign up page. [29/05/12 19:57] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]*BFH Lightning* kicks LW with his spear of seven[/i][/color] [29/05/12 19:58] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b] [color=#305681]*[i]hits BFH with his lumber Saw[/i]*[/color] That's right, how do you like them apples. [29/05/12 19:58] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]taffy giggles[/i][/color] [29/05/12 19:58] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]ok I'll try to develop the scoring system and post it in forums to continue the discussion [29/05/12 19:59] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]thanks for the ideas [29/05/12 19:59] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]Can there be a Team Lone Wolf [29/05/12 19:59] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]time to pick up log [29/05/12 19:59] [b]darkraptor:[/b]Team Lazy!! [29/05/12 19:59] [b]*BFH Lightning*:[/b]after teams get dicided they pick leader and name [29/05/12 19:59] [b]Lone Wolf:[/b]Darn. [29/05/12 19:59] [b]:[/b][color=#305681][i]taffy puts her dice back in the orange pouch and stands up[/i][/color] [29/05/12 19:59] [b]:[/b][color=#FF9900][b][Spell][/b] [i]KBOOM![/i][/color] [/log]

Thanks for the wishes. I'm half back

Hello I have results 1st - Gonzalo 2nd - Darkraptor 3rd - Esmaralda Each of you receive one of the Seven Items Shield of Seven Spirit of Seven Spear of Seven Staff of Seven Salve of Seven Stamp of Seven Plus some coins might suddently fall from the sky for you Note: Only one will have the right to pick which of the items he prefer (Gonzalo) after him I'll award the rest.

[quote name='Chewett' timestamp='1338150855' post='113011'] Sounds like some basic predetermined path... aka not what MD is MD isnt normal, it doesnt follow conventions, if the simply way is "do this, you become alive" thats boring and average... [/quote] Doesn't have to be normal. Can be customized It's the great part of quests and such. Boring IS to just be dead (for the people that doen't do anything more), I guess... XD

Actually The part of beign death should unleash some sort of quest or journey of the "spirit" to recover his/her life. So in Other words death should unleash a quest to the player. If he/she manage to solve some sort of quest he gets his life automatically. If not he/she would have to wait for other things to happen. IDK just an idea