Sunfire

Does anyone have a good explanation of what the voice of the dead is supposed to be or do? Maybe it is self explanatory but in the recent topic on it by Blackshade, outside of explaining what the dead means to him he mentions more about how he will help Chewett punish depleters than he does saying how he will help the dead.
I am all for self established roles/goals but they can easily go unnoticed or not tie into the realm in any significant way, like me spending time at the fields of abandonment or spending years not defeating the shades, even if you noticed nobody would really know why I do this. If there isn't a good or obvious why there is nothing to do with this role from an official standpoint. The voice of the dead role isn't like this though, it has been officially recognized and yet here he is obviously to the public going against the wishes of an established dead character. Is the role just something he seeks to fill because he could or is it something that meant something to him before he was offered it?

Rejoice for the glorious revival. You speak of consent yet so many have been killed without consent. You may want to rethink your logic.
But again. Rejoice for the glorious revival. Sad to see this player keeps committing suicide. They need help. I will be sure to provide the help. :)

To me it looks like BSR does not agree with Samon's role with the dead and is trying to force him to give it up. It definitely does feel targeted because marv is also dead and has not being revived in the same manner.

Rejoice for the glorious revival. Better work than the caretakers have done in over a year. Rejoice! Rejoice!

I chose to use my revive tool to help the dead :) this is part of what my role is as voice of the dead :) rejoice for the glorious revival. May the living treat you better this time :)

"Mur has given specific reasons for disbanding the Caretakers: no revivals by its members over the last year, no flowers-for-revival cases, and guild tools being lent outside the alliance. If that account is incomplete, then the missing work should be brought forward. Being active and fulfilling the guild’s purpose are not necessarily the same thing."

The account is definitely lacking. The page says "Revives and kills: the game's own record of every revive and kill item and clickable, all years."
When a wreathe made from flowers is made, that is usable for revives. It is a one time use consumable. If I gave that consumable to someone else, the revive obviously never gets registered to me.

I had gathered thousands of flowers in the past to make the wreathes, all before the marigold flowers revive method was added, which I did talk with Azull some about as he was in the process of adding a new method for reviving, as I was concerned that players could not revive themselves and how tedious the only method other than a permanent revive item was.
The aspect of gathering a byproduct requires that I give the flowers to others in the process. As a result, I have never actually held a revive tool myself even for a moment. I am not a quester, I don't have access to plethoras of wish points, which I would certainly use if I could to obtain a revive tool as it's the main type of tool I want.
So yes, I don't have any revives to my name.


But that is not my main concern, to revive people. Gathering the flowers is something I did because there was an implied goal for the Caretakers to help people revive, though it is not something that has been instructed to us or something we set out as a goal for ourselves. It is something the dead see on their own profile as they are dead to "contact" the Caretakers for how to revive, not for a free resurrect that we are burdened to perform. As for how many times I have been contacted, perhaps none or only a few times, but you wouldn't see how many times and neither would you see how many times I have contacted the dead players.
My concern was with the dying process itself but I will not elaborate that here on this topic as it is better fit elsewhere. But short to say that I gathered the flowers in a period where there were more murders and kill tools available than the periods previous to that, and mostly stopped when the self revive was so efficient that using a wreathe is practically a complete waste, and really only recently has this problem of people being murdered become rampant again.


Short aside, still over one hundred thousand trees set on defense, you can find me idle at the GoE if you need them.

Was anyone doing much anything in the last year? According to that logic everyone should be disbanded.

For historical purposes, I would invite everyone to read what I proposed here when the alliance was without a leader. I dare anyone to say we haven't worked towards what is written here. Do note that the proposal was explicitly titled "A New Path" and was approved.
Then comes someone who only keeps track of changes when it suits them, and chooses to disband everything we have built because of technicalities. They say there were no revivals. I say a land was revived (and not at the click of a button). Since when MagicDuel has become so literal?
I tried to reason and be polite, and what I got in return was the opposite. This is very unfortunate and it certainly says more about the other party than about our merit as Caretakers.

Samon was dead on my request, his death was in direct service and help to me. I chose for him to be dead at that moment. His Death was not a counter to his oath.
Your forced revival was the part that was in direct counter to my request and service, and while not intentional i'm sure, you did so without full knowledge or consideration that their might be another reason he was dead at that moment.
As someone that is meant to be a voice of the dead, you did the worst possible thing you could have done, and did not listen.

As announced here I will claim the position of leader of the Dead rebellion.
While the other thread talks about the why, here I will explain the how.

Leader of the Dead Rebellion
As leader of the Dead rebellion I will remain dead until justice has been served, and well beyond that. I will claim Berserker's Charge as the headquarter of the rebellion, as it has been my home for many years.

Sharing of flowers and revival
As such I will donate any marigold flowers I have to the dead.
This service is open to anyone who needs it, friend and foe alike. Just like I have never discriminated in the past.
In cases of grave injustice I will ensure instant revival. For this I will work with the Caretakers and others to ensure swift action.
I am still exploring the new Land of the Dead as we speak, but so far it seems that the new revival mechanism is a less sophisticated version of the old one. One of the big issues I see so far is that it severely punishes people who die for the first time while benefitting those who have died before. Therefore I will favour those who have not yet explored the new land when sharing flowers.
Marvolo has been the first to receive this service, I am sure many more will follow.

Protection of the land and its resources
Evidently the tyrant has failed to protect his land. Therefore I shall seek alliances with the other lands to protect it instead. More about this will follow, but be warned that locations might be cursed.

A bounty on the tyrant's head
If Blackshade Rider truly wishes to serve the dead he will be able to do so as one of them. Therefore I will offer 2 gold for anyone who takes his head. While this is not a big sum, this offer will cover the cost of the tool and then some and stands until further notice.


More details will follow in the coming days I thank @Muratus del Mur for offering support to my role in the Dead, even if I do strongly condemn the slander surrounding it. I hope we will be in contact shortly about how to further this new role

I, Samon, in name of the people of the realm, hereby officially declare an open rebellion of the dead against the tyranny of graveyard keeper Blackshade Rider.
In this post I shall explain the why. Here I will explain what this will mean for the dead in practice.

As many of you know I have spent more time dead than anyone else in this realm. Over the last decade the days I have been alive are few and far between. The dead are more dear to me than anything else in the realm. I have also been the most outspoken opponent to a king in the Dead.
Then why, you might ask, was I there during the protest in the graveyard?
After being appointed graveyard keeper it quickly became clear that Blackshade does fancy himself king of the Dead and does not condone any detractors.

The accusations
A short list of Blackshade Rider's many transgressions in the run up to the protest are:
Countless unprovoked insults to many different people, in particular, but not exclusively, when they showed interest in the Dead.
Involuntary resurrections
Silencing over minor disagreements
Spread lies about his detractors
Threatened the existence of his Necrovion neighbours when they offered cooperation
Shared that he used an exploit to gain more Marigold flowers than he should. This exploit has since been fixed. See: https://magicduel.com/page/Announcement/view/6725
Furthermore Blackshade Rider falsely claimed that he is the only person to care about the dead, despite there being a plethora of people that have been intimately involved with the dead.
First and foremost the Caretakers, especially Aelis, Mallos, Sephirah, Lashtal and, until very recently, Ledah and Myself
Aside from them, whenever I died I would immediately receive offers of help from Syrian, Seigheart, Fang and many others.
And in the past there have been too many more to name all of them.

The protest and its aftermath
Both his behaviour, his violent possessiveness and the appearance of unfair advantages created a lot of anger among the people. So much so that something happening became an inevitability.
This caused 22 people to gather on the day of the protest. Virtually everyone who was awake at the time.
While there were many jokes being made, the sentiment behind the protest was dead serious. My hope was that this would cause some reflection by those who's actions caused this.
The opposite appears true.
In the aftermath:
- The one alliance that has truly consistently cared for the dead has been destroyed under slanderous accusations.
- The meticulously placed marigold flowers have been uprooted and seemingly randomly scattered across a new land.
Not a single shred of self reflection has been shown so far by those who created the situation that led to the protest.

The rebellion
This is why I, in name of the people of realm, see no other option than to start an open rebellion in the Dead until Blackshade Rider has been removed from his position as graveyard keeper and some of the most harmful changes to the dead have been reversed. Finally I demand apologies from both Mur and Blackshade to Aelis and the Caretakers. They have been the most active alliance in MD by far over the past 2 months and I will not stand for this slander.
I will only support Blackshade to retake his position if he shows he can deal respectfully with both the living and the dead and injustice has been rectified.

Praise the shades.
Samon

P.s. While the blame for some of this lays with Mur, there will be plenty of opportunity to discuss that in another thread soon.

completely mute and hide all combat chat.

Glory to the Duke, the Dead belongs to us now!
never has a conquest been so smooth and fun.

completely mute and hide all combat chat.

Glory to the Duke, the Dead belongs to us now!
never has a conquest been so smooth and fun.

completely mute and hide all combat chat.

Glory to the Duke, the Dead belongs to us now!
never has a conquest been so smooth and fun.

Glory to the Duke, the Dead belongs to us now!
never has a conquest been so smooth and fun.

Glory to the Duke, the Dead belongs to us now!
never has a conquest been so smooth and fun.

Glory to the Duke, the Dead belongs to us now!
never has a conquest been so smooth and fun.

After Feedback from Mur this adventure log has been cancelled and will not proceed.

We, the people of Marind Bell and the East, alongside our friends of Necrovion, have invaded the Dead lands claiming it ours!
First at GoE:
We cunningly entirely blamed Mur on this action, fearing potential repercussions. However when we invaded no one stood against us!

The following people were part of the raid:
@Aelis
@Mallos
@Chewett
@Sunfire
@Ledah
@Syrian
@Sephirah Caelum
@Else
@Kaya
@Eara Meraia
@Fang Archbane
@MRAlyon
@Miq
@Marvolo
@redneck
@Seigheart
@Vahr
Bengos
Eutchus
Orbac
We had 23 people meet us at GoE, and many of them followed the INVASION!


I formally claim the lands of the Dead for the people of Marind Bell and the East!

so it is okay to lock someone in chaos for a few hours or kill them and needing 3 days for the marigold, but casting a weather spell is frowned upon?
it is just another spell you obtained to use freely imo.
just like you said earlier:

so it is okay to lock someone in chaos for a few hours or kill them and needing 3 days for the marigold, but casting a weather spell is frowned upon?
it is just another spell you obtained to use freely imo.
just like you said earlier:

I don't like the idea of someone being able to put large quantities of points into a specific thing, e.g. buying large quantities of gold. I like how it doesn't necessarily encourage whaling by giving a selection.
I already have a concern that forge is Pay-To-Win where those who have lots of cash can just keep making OP items.

I think people wanting to affect something in the realm, without having any effect on them, is lame.