Guillak Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) I don't know to what extent this would be [un]feasible: Currently, when you need to tell something private to someone that stands just in front of you:[list] [*]you send a PM; [*]if you're courageous or you don't want to wait until the person receives the PM notification, you *whisper to the person*/*hand a scroll to the person* (which is strange because you generally don't put a 10-words long message down in writing if the person being spoken to is just before you. Unless you've-been-on-MD-too-much). [/list] How about gaining a bit interactivity by whispering directly in chat? It would be nice if you could chat privately with someone, while the others would either not see anything, or a simple automatic chat line like those you see when passing items etc. This could be a nice addition to the advanced chat features in the MD shop, just like the [color=#4b0082]gossip feature[/color]. For instance, if I type: <insert whisper command and recipient here> <my message> ... recipient would see (grayish?): <my name here> whispers: <message> ... while all others would only see (grayish?): <my name here> whispers to <recipient> This would allow ghosts to whisper scary things to their victims too ... Edited January 25, 2012 by Grido Dragual, Brulant, Kyphis the Bard and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty4life Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 gray has been already taken for bracket thingy pinkish would be fine ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChildOfTheSoul Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) Pink would totally work for whispering. I wonder if this is easily programmable, whispering would be a great addition. Edited January 25, 2012 by ChildOfTheSoul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubaris Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 It should be, many chat boxes have "whisper" option. Whispers should probably be "penetrable" by log spells... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) I'd prefer brown. Easier to see. Edited January 25, 2012 by Seigheart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty4life Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 only problem in here is, everyone would be whispering nobody talking, and dont forget about cyber issue.... Amoran Kalamanira Kol, Watcher and dst 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guillak Posted January 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 [quote name='Liberty4life' timestamp='1327520340' post='102373'] only problem in here is, everyone would be whispering nobody talking, and dont forget about cyber issue.... [/quote] Either we behave, or perhaps set a limited number of uses per day? Why not with additional uses to buy from the MD shop ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChildOfTheSoul Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Liberty4life' timestamp='1327520340' post='102373'] only problem in here is, everyone would be whispering nobody talking, and dont forget about cyber issue.... [/quote] Until someone forgets to whisper. And there would still be talk, just less of it. Edited January 25, 2012 by ChildOfTheSoul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty4life Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 but... some ppl like to stalk others dont forget that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Chewett Posted January 25, 2012 Root Admin Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 seems pretty pointless. It will just mean less chat to see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Maybe an item that allows one to hear whispers? Like a sound amplifier? Dibs if it ever gets amde dst and Watcher 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maebius Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 I rather disagree with the idea of Whispers. I can't really articulate why, but it feels "wrong" somehow. Maybe related to how we can't find people unless we have friend-listed or saved a PM from them. Chengmingz and Amoran Kalamanira Kol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guillak Posted January 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 [quote name='Chewett' timestamp='1327520928' post='102377'] seems pretty pointless. It will just mean less chat to see... [/quote] ... which is all the more useful in crowded locations, when several independent discussions are happening at the same time and you have to eye-filter the noisy ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Chewett Posted January 25, 2012 Root Admin Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 [quote name='Guillak' timestamp='1327521844' post='102381'] ... which is all the more useful in crowded locations, when several independent discussions are happening at the same time and you have to eye-filter the noisy ones. [/quote] Thats why if you are trying to talk to a specific person you move to a different location... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guillak Posted January 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 [size=4] [quote name='Chewett' timestamp='1327522002' post='102382'] Thats why if you are trying to talk to a specific person you move to a different location... [/quote] If you intend to have a real discussion, sure, but you don't whisper whole discussions. The idea here is to make short bits of talks, for which you wouldn't care to move anyway, more fluent, not to replace the whole chat.[/size] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty4life Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 many ppl would go to that extent... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Katt Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 It seems to me that anyone having the ability to check the chat logs should also be able to see the whispers? Of course, that would mean a secret should always be written in PM, if at all. Dragual, dst and Kyphis the Bard 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amoran Kalamanira Kol Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Liberty4life' timestamp='1327520340' post='102373'] only problem in here is, everyone would be whispering nobody talking, and dont forget about cyber issue.... [/quote] Not that I neccessarily believe cybering is okay, but I fail to see how this would be a problem if we could not see the written word publically anyway... unless of course certain players go on witch hunts to find such things with log spells. As for how to prevent this, I would suggest setting a limited number of characters to the whispering function. Since 'whispering' would be used more or less for short notifications. The benefits of whispering, that I see, is that it would bring more respect to actual roleplay. Instead of spamming the chat with nothing but OOC mumbo jumbo, people might actually stay in character more as opposed to talking OOC more. Just my thoughts, oh and I edited to add a bit more. Edited January 26, 2012 by Amoran Kalamanira Kol Guillak, Kyphis the Bard and dst 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laphers Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Just a quick thought. What if the people outside of the whispers were able to notice that there were whispers happening? So everyone else would see "*Laphers whispers to Guillak*" but they wouldn't see the message. Then people can see interactions taking place but not the content (unless the logs are pulled) Change 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipstickz Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 [quote name='Guillak' timestamp='1327518718' post='102358'] ... recipient would see (grayish?): <my name here> whispers: <message> ... while all others would only see (grayish?): <my name here> whispers to <recipient> [/quote] Already suggested, Laphers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty4life Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 there is still much more work to be done on this idea how to limit it from using it excessively and when not needed and how to prevent it from abusing, how whispers would display in chat, both privately and publicly, etc etc its very very late so i cant think very good anymore, but i could find tons of things in here after all this would be somethin in between pms and chat, so one should make it clear if he wants others to whisper him or not, and then how all this connect to rp, ffs in role sense why would you be lettin tons of strangers to come very close to you and whisper you somethin, maybe he would want to stick dagger in you just sayin, there should also be put some sort of ... allowance to whisper, somethin like authorization and add to contact list thingy that im clients have... (ofc we not makin new priv chat service we just ensuring that specific person is somebody who we allow to whisper us) then more technical things like... some trades might go through whispers instead of pms, so if item/creat didnt get transfered instantly, somebody with accustic remains could snatch it, now... this isnt necessarily a bad thing since mur himself said there would be some stuff that would allow stealin... could this be first step for goin that way, or would transfer codes need to be censored from whispers aw i could moan about hundred more things on this whisper matter, there is really tons of things to define in here before anythin is done, addin additional communication service is very hard thing to do properly imo Watcher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyphis the Bard Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 I support this idea, so long as: a) Logs can see whispers but also display clearly that it is a whisper (so that for legal matters to track abuses it doesn't get in the way, but when I am posting event logs I can remove the messages hidden behind the whispers); b) it is tied to the Reality Requirement feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrumist Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 this idea is not bad, but it seems that the programming implementation would be a little impossible except new chat boxes for the proper listener are added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grido Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 (edited) nah, perfectly possible, it's possible in other games, so it can* be here as well, I believe it's done by typing "@Chewett whisper whisper" as what you type *saying "can" not necessarily "should" Edited January 26, 2012 by Grido Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miq Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Logical thing do have in my opinion also i can't really see what's wrong with everyone speaking in whisper as much as they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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