Seigheart

If you actually read the whole post, youd see that the idea was to get raw resources processed further to closer resemble the items they wanted using the workshop. But okay.

This quest is now reopened with some minor changes! Since the forge now costs twice as much, I will no longer be able to support the free first attempt. 10$ USD is 14$ CAD. It hurts.

Really? Because you're assuming a lot by telling me to cool down. I am trying to have a civil discussion here but no one here is bringing any real counters to my idea. Just shutting it down with zero discourse.

??? You sure? Seems like this post uses the same formatting as AI

And I think there is another part of this that needs to be addressed: whether you agree with my ideas or not, I have valid ideas, and I've had ideas implemented into MagicDuel before. I'm not claiming every idea I have is brilliant or that every proposal should be accepted. I'm saying that dismissing my ideas based on who I was 10 or 15 years ago isn't a particularly fair way to judge what I'm doing now. I've grown as a person over the past 10–15 years. A lot has happened in that time. Do you even remember what I was doing 15 years ago? Because I certainly don't think the person I was then is a particularly accurate representation of who I am now. You're right that I'm not the most patient person in the world. Quite the opposite. But even that criticism needs some context. I've been working on this for a month. I haven't just appeared yesterday, demanded a guild, and expected everyone to hand me a title. I've been actively participating, developing ideas, discussing them, and trying to actually get things moving. I already attempted to run a quest. Unfortunately, that was cut short because of the changes happening with the Forge and Eggy. That's not me abandoning the idea or losing interest. Now, with Mur implementing Forge fires being added to gift credit purchases, that quest can actually continue. I've also been one of the most active players this year. So when the criticism is that I need to "stick around longer" or "show commitment," I think it's fair to point out that I am already showing commitment. Maybe I'm moving faster than some people are comfortable with. That's entirely possible. But moving quickly isn't the same thing as being impatient or not being committed. I'm enthusiastic. I have a lot of ideas. I want to see things happen. Those are things I'm not going to apologize for. What I will do is listen when someone points out a genuine problem with an idea. If something doesn't fit MD, tell me why. If something conflicts with existing mechanics or lore, show me where. If there's a better way to accomplish what I'm trying to accomplish, I'm happy to hear it. But I don't think "you were difficult 15 years ago" or "your writing sounds like AI" is a particularly useful critique of the actual systems I'm proposing today. Judge me by what I'm doing now. Judge the ideas on their merits. And if I fail to follow through, if I disappear, if I stop contributing, then by all means tell me I wasn't committed. But after a month of actively working on this, attempting to run events, continuing the Forge work, developing systems, participating in the community, and having some of those ideas already make their way into MD, I don't think it's reasonable to say I haven't demonstrated effort or commitment. I don't need everyone to agree with me. I just want the discussion to be about what I'm actually doing now, rather than who I was a decade and a half ago.

You're adorable. Your intentions are so pure. The sheer dedication you've shown to being virtually passive-aggressive toward me for the entire month I've been back is honestly impressive. At this point, I almost have to admire the consistency, it takes a remarkable amount of effort to dress up that much hostility as concern. Keep it up!

It's funny how this works hand in hand with my suggestion for the Crafter's guild, but you know, too blind to see that.

Did you? Did you really?

I appreciate you taking the time to write this and to speak with other players about it. However, I think there are some important assumptions in your feedback that I want to address, because I don't think you've actually read my posts closely enough to understand what I'm proposing or how I'm using AI. Again it's your famous bias again. First, regarding the AI criticism: I use AI as a tool to help organize my thoughts, fix grammar, structure information, and convey what I'm trying to say. The world is changing, and AI is becoming a normal tool for communication and creative work. Using it doesn't mean the ideas themselves aren't mine. I have a lot of ideas, and I use AI to help me turn those ideas into something readable and organized. That's particularly useful when I'm trying to communicate complicated systems or large amounts of information. The fact that something is well structured or grammatically polished doesn't mean I simply asked an AI to invent a fantasy system and copied the result. That's also why I don't think describing my posts as "GenericFantasyLLM" is particularly fair without actually looking at what I've written and what I've been trying to accomplish. More importantly, I don't agree with the suggestion that I've simply been producing a large volume of ideas without thinking about their place in MD. Some of the things I've posted are deliberately exploratory. I'm putting ideas out there so they can be discussed, challenged, changed, or discarded. That's part of developing a system. I also don't think I need to pretend that I don't have ambitions for the Crafters Guild simply because leadership should be earned. I can have a vision for what I want to build while still understanding that recognition and titles come later. Those aren't contradictory. Where I do agree with you is that actions matter more than a title. If I want people to see me as someone who contributes to crafting, then obviously I need to actually contribute. I'm perfectly comfortable proving that through my actions rather than asking people to simply take my word for it. But I don't think returning to MD means I should sit quietly for months before proposing anything. I've come back because I want to contribute, and part of contributing is bringing ideas to the table. MD itself is changing, just as the wider world is changing, and I don't think every new idea should automatically be rejected because it doesn't exactly resemble how things were done historically. That brings me to the suggestion that my ideas are against MD lore. I think this is where actually reading the posts and discussing the individual proposals becomes important. If something I've proposed doesn't fit MD, I'd much rather have someone tell me specifically what doesn't fit and why than dismiss the entire concept as generic fantasy. I'm very willing to change an idea when there is a concrete reason for doing so. The same applies to the workshop idea. The intention wasn't simply "put every machine in one building because that's how fantasy crafting works." There is a larger concept behind the processing and production system I'm trying to develop. If the better implementation is to distribute those processes around the lands, then that's something that can be discussed. But I don't think the underlying idea should be dismissed without engaging with what I'm actually proposing. I also think the distinction between a Crafters Guild and a broader production/workmen organization is worth discussing. I'm not married to it, but the concept is worth looking at. What matters to me is creating a functioning system where people who gather, process, craft, trade, and specialize have reasons to interact with one another. There is a gap between resources, and the forge. I want to fix that. And yes, resources need uses. That's something I've been considering as part of the system. I'm not interested in creating 30 different ores simply because they sound interesting. The resources need to feed into actual crafting, production, trade, or player activity. As for the leadership comments, I understand your position, but I don't think listing past mistakes is necessarily the only meaningful way to demonstrate change. If I've behaved badly in the past, the best evidence that I've changed is how I behave now. I don't expect anyone to believe that because I wrote "I've changed." I'll demonstrate it through how I interact with people and what I actually do. So I think the biggest difference between us here is that you're looking at my posts and seeing AI-generated generic fantasy content, while I'm looking at them as my own ideas that I've used AI to organize and communicate. If you think specific parts don't fit MagicDuel, I'm absolutely willing to discuss those parts individually. But I don't think it's fair to characterize the entire project as AI slop when the criticism is based on assumptions about how the posts were produced rather than engagement with the actual ideas behind them. I'm not asking anyone to give me a title or declare me the leader of anything tomorrow. I'm putting forward a vision, I'm willing to develop it, and I'm willing to have the community challenge it. If it works, great. If parts don't work, I'll change them. But I'd rather have that discussion based on the actual ideas I've proposed rather than on the assumption that I typed "make me a fantasy guild" into an AI and pasted the result. Try looking at the big picture, instead of picking holes. Yes, AI helped fix the jumbled mess that this was. Deal with it.

This inforgraphic shows what potential devices could be used to further process each resource. The higher your skill, the more successful/faster you would be in processing raw resources.

Due to image file size limitations, I have to spam posts for this. Ive done up a handy infographic as well for what I would like to do for the work process for materials. There are tonnes of other resources, but just kind of expanding on current resources:

I’ve been thinking about what could be done with the Crafters Guild, and I wanted to throw an idea out there for discussion. There are a few obvious locations that would make sense for the Guild. Oak Tower seems like a natural choice, given its lack of any real importance within Loreroot. The capital would also be logical. But I think there’s another possibility that could be much more interesting. The Lost Body of War Hold. There could already be the lost body of the giant statue/head in Loreroot’s forest. What if, instead of building an entirely new structure, another tree fort, we add to the existing scenes. Its been awhile since Loreroot has seen an expansion. The old, war-torn shell of the giant statue could become the foundation of the Guild. Crafters could have gradually built platforms, workbenches, furnaces, storage areas and scaffolding around and inside the remains. Essentially, something that was once a forgotten relic becomes something useful again. I think that would fit Loreroot particularly well. What would the workshop contain?The interior could have several different crafting areas that could help process materials. 🔥 Smelting — kilns, and crucibles/molds to process more advanced ores ⛏️Blacksmithing — Integrity of items can be repaired here 💎 Gem Cutting — cutting wheels, workbenches, tools to process gemstones (2 months to make a diamond is crazy) 🪵 Woodworking — lumber, carving benches, saws to process more advanced wood types (hard lumber, oak, maple etc) 🧪 Alchemy / Materials — processing and identifying more advanced ingredients and crafting components. ⚒️ General Workshop — very basic version of the forge that can produce role play items using only resources as material. These items purpose would be to help guide the Forge a bit more when creating potentially empowered items in the real forge.

We do have quite a few resource processing clickables that need pictures: I will go through and catalog all the ones that do tomorrow.

Are there any bonuses for feeding it extra of something? Did you ever figure out how tokens influence them?

Speaking of being rewarded... I have yet to get mine :P

No wonder why it named Ledah, you threw enough in there you basically got him

Creatures: Any four creatures you want to use Knator - Max Stage Imperial Armour - 1st Stage Mutated Drach - Max Stage Unnumbered Apparition - Max Stage What you feed it: Other creatures, ANY item, heat, or anything else you think could have an effect 1 Kill item - doesnt matter what weapon, it needs to be able to kill people feed it candy, chocolate, cake and heat on repeat. Result: A One handed, one weaponarmed, sugar addicted demon child from hell. Hopefully it can fly lol

Mur asked for the community to come up with ideas for the new Primordial Pet feature, so let's see what everyone can come up with. The main goal here is to experiment and help test the system. We have a new mechanic to play around with, so let's see what it can actually do and what kinds of combinations we can discover. The idea is pretty open. You can use any creature, at any stage, and then decide what you want to feed the Primordial Pet to influence what comes out. For your combination, list: Creatures: Any four creatures you want to use Creature stage: What stage each creature should be What you feed it: Other creatures, ANY item, heat, or anything else you think could have an effect Result: What do you think the Primordial Pet should become? Don't worry too much about balance or whether an idea sounds strange. This is about experimenting. Try combinations that make sense, combinations that don't, and things that you think might produce interesting results. The more people experiment, the more we can learn about how the system works and what is possible. And don't forget to upvote/downvote the combinations you like. Mur might end up picking one of yours to actually use. Let's break the system and see what happens.

It works! Ledah was correct.

I see where you are coming from. Alright, I change my vote.

I think the confusion comes from the question of which came first: the pets or the creatures. Calling them "Primordial" makes it sound like they existed first. Maybe they did, and we simply weren't able to perceive them until now. :P

I too dislike Primordial for this reason. Since they are aspects of our will, I think Aspect is a suiting name.

Ahh! Okay. Will try that, thank you!

I like the term Aspect. Familiar could also work.

It seems the public meeting spell might be bugged. I was testing to see how it worked, so I may not have done it right.