Udgard Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Just confirming, does this mean someone who wants to vote has to contact 1 of the three vote-takers, or all 3 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maebius Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) Just to confirm and clarify, (since I was asked twice now) we should contact each of these three individuals with our vote? (*sending three messages with one vote each?) Or simply send a vote to one of them? Edited February 2, 2012 by Maebius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burns Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 Simple solution, send your vote to one of them, then add the other two to the conversation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubaris Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 (edited) All three of them, gentlemen. Added it in the edit. Edited February 2, 2012 by Rhaegar Targaryen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrumist Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Oh I see you make some redundancy in this election process hehehe good good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grido Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 It's not redundancy...it's to safeguard the voting, one person may be corrupted, three is harder. I do find it mildly wrong that one of the candidates started this thread though. Watcher and Chewett 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maebius Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Grido' timestamp='1328294771' post='103301'] I do find it mildly wrong that one of the candidates started this thread though. [/quote] The overall idea of a Regent/Semi-monarch to take the place of Queen Kets was put forth by Rhaegar, I believe, at a meeting we had. As far as I understand, the opportunity was opened to all Citizens to apply, and two others did so. While I understand the faint bias you may feel in having one of the candidates put forth the Vote, I felt it natural, since the overall idea itself was spearheaded by Rhaegar, from my understanding. Thus, this post. If the other folks find such things to slant the potential votes, I'll keep that in mind for any future MarindBell 'events' and try to make sure myself, or a more 'neutral' party does the initial posting. In this case, I do not believe that any attempt to "rig" things was intended. Edited February 3, 2012 by Maebius Pipstickz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 So what if Rhaegar was the one that started this thread? What's wrong with that, Grido? Dragual and Chewett 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty4life Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 well it does influence neutrality in some way, thats what grido pointed out but on other hand more troublin thing should be that candidate who has biggest chances to win, put forth this idea in first place heh but it really doesnt matter that much, since they actually asked everyone to express their opinion, whilst mb council has power to put up anyone they see fit as regent without askin or answerin to anyone, but they didnt do that, they did quite opposite and initiated votin Esmaralda, dst, Udgard and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grido Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Candidate A puts forth the vote, phrases everything in said post (though it looks fairly neutral here, this is hypothetical) however they like, possibly phrasing it in a favourable way towards themselves. Also, Voter 1 sees that Candidate A has put the vote forth, doesn't know much/equal opinion of each candidate and so votes for the person they've seen has put the vote up as they must be important. Do you not understand visual bias Seig? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Everyone knows these "votes" are all popularity contests. It's not the "norm" to be thoughtful and educate yourself on who would be the "best" person for this position. But who is the most popular/most liked in the realm. Atrumist, Jubaris, Watcher and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChildOfTheSoul Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) Edit: I don't know how to phrase my post without it sounding offensive. I'll leave it alone. Edited February 3, 2012 by ChildOfTheSoul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Chewett Posted February 3, 2012 Root Admin Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 [quote name='Maebius' timestamp='1328296034' post='103304'] The overall idea of a Regent/Semi-monarch to take the place of Queen Kets was put forth by [b]Rhaegar[/b], I believe, at a meeting we had. As far as I understand, the opportunity was opened to all Citizens to apply, and two others did so. While I understand the faint bias you may feel in having one of the candidates put forth the Vote, I felt it natural, since the overall idea itself was spearheaded by Rhaegar, from my understanding. Thus, this post. [/quote] Replace Rhaegar with Chewett. But he indeed did run with the idea after comments were made and i refused to handle it.[quote name='Liberty4life' timestamp='1328296902' post='103312'] whilst mb council has power to put up anyone they see fit as regent without askin or answerin to anyone, but they didnt do that, they did quite opposite and initiated votin [/quote] We could have just said the regant is X Atrumist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyrd Argentus Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 No need to be alarmed if anybody notices that I appear to have "deleted" their forum vote without reading it.... In fact I have it all forwarded and am saving all the votes in another e-mail venue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passant the Weak Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 No need to be alarmed if anybody notices I have not read their votes. In fact I will be reading in batches and save them in another venue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubaris Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 [quote name='Seigheart' timestamp='1328298092' post='103316'] Everyone knows these "votes" are all popularity contests. It's not the "norm" to be thoughtful and educate yourself on who would be the "best" person for this position. But who is the most popular/most liked in the realm. [/quote] Doesn't have to be liked, even, just better known (up to a certain point, without being the target of massive hate, of course). That's how MD always worked, sadly. [quote name='Grido' timestamp='1328297299' post='103315'] Candidate A puts forth the vote, phrases everything in said post (though it looks fairly neutral here, this is hypothetical) however they like, possibly phrasing it in a favourable way towards themselves. Also, Voter 1 sees that Candidate A has put the vote forth, doesn't know much/equal opinion of each candidate and so votes for the person they've seen has put the vote up as they must be important. Do you not understand visual bias Seig? [/quote] I do understand your points, and I have considered previously to ask Maebius to post the same words instead of me, but that would just mask the essence - that I worked on processing this elections. If I do get higher amount of votes than the others, I assure you, it won't be because of the visual bias 'issue' created in this topic, with certainty I can say that the mentioned issue you find as troubling for this event will be the least of the factors for someone's vote. The Council of Marind Bell organized this event, Council of which I am part of and in which I had the most part of putting the event into motion (to answer the previous question, I'm not sure have I mentioned it earlier in one of our meetings Maebius - certainly had it on my mind, but the event itself has started due to Chewett's topic). The great focus of my work in this event was to keep away conflict of interests, and maintain "fairness" of the system. If I succeeded or not, others will have to give feedback to let you know (there was a stage previous to this vote). One important detail - this is not a universal MD event, it is initiated by the government of Marind Bell for the government of Marind Bell, which gives me the "right" to post the topic. I do not owe you a justification of any kind, Grido, but still, I assure you, it was not my intent to "get score" by being the one who posted the topic. Please, if someone can move the discussion to a separate thread, it would be lovely. The voting main topic should be locked... Esmaralda and Aelis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grido Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 You do have the right to, of course you do, I was just pointing out I had an issue with how it's been done, which I have the right to do as well. And I wasn't asking for justification. (Zl-eye-f)-nea, Watcher and dst 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubaris Posted February 4, 2012 Report Share Posted February 4, 2012 Alrighty then, no room for misinterpretation of any kind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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