Phantom Orchid Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) Seig, On the 10th of June I requested a WP code for my quest which you are sponsoring. On the 22nd you replied saying you would have it to me in a few hours, and you have not replied to subsequent messages. I would not normally make an issue of it, but the last time you sponsored a quest of mine it took several weeks (and me having to hound you and work on reward coordination) AFTER the quest winners were announced to get the rewards to the winners. This is why I requested one so early... because if I hadn't extended it today was going to be the deadline for the quest. I have largely been reluctant to seek sponsorship from the TKs because of this incompetency, and it is a shame, because you are the only one I know who can give WP codes for rewards. I know that I would be more inclined to run in-game quests if you would communicate in a timely fashion and make good on your word. And I wonder if others have similar experiences trying to work with you. Edited August 1, 2012 by Phantom Orchid Liberty4life, Menhir, Sparrhawk and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 I am also working 60 hours a week. When I am on MD nowadays, it is during my break at work. And the codes for the WPs are stored at home on an external harddrive. When I get home, that last thing on my mind is MD. It's sleep, and food. I apologize for the lateness of the delivery, but it will be made. Phantom Orchid, ignnus, Menhir and 9 others 2 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Popular Post Chewett Posted August 2, 2012 Root Admin Popular Post Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 delegation is an important part of running a team. You cant and shouldnt do everything, if you gave everyone in the TK's some WPRC's and such, then all you need to do is ask X to give reward Y out which doesnt take long at all. If you personally give all the rewards out, then TK's become much more pointless and a one man band. lashtal, Menhir, The Warrior and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grido Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 The one man band thing was I believe the issue before the TKs came about as well - which is why Curi, then TKs started being used Phantom Orchid, No one and dst 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Yes, you are right Chewett. The TKs are meant exactly for that. Watcher, The Warrior and No one 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Orchid Posted August 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 (edited) My past conversations with other TK members involved them telling me to talk with Seig, because he was the leader and they had no control or even access to rewards. That is why this post was directed solely to Seig and not the TKs in general. And I'm sick of the struggle for accessing what should be available to competent quest makers. I don't have time for this... and it's unfair for quest winners to have to track you down and waste their time to claim their already tardy rewards from you. I accept apologies after the first time, but this is a pattern, like I said (see dream quest results thread for background). Edited August 3, 2012 by Phantom Orchid Liberty4life, lashtal and The Warrior 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Like I said, I am managing the opening of three different sectors for my job, and I spend 10-15 hours a day at work because of it. I hardly have time to sleep, let alone log onto MD to give a WPC to you. Give me a few days. MD is a game of patience. Not demands. Chewett, Watcher, Sparrhawk and 7 others 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Orchid Posted August 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 (edited) Funny, because you did not seem so patient when you replied saying you'll have the WP code to me in a few hours - immediately after you requested help with resurrecting you. I said I will not help you out-of-game, and since then you haven't replied in weeks... It is not a matter of patience, it is about accountability and being good on your word. And maybe, just maybe you'll consider what Chewett wrote - but I'm not holding my breath on that one. Edited August 3, 2012 by Phantom Orchid The Warrior, ignnus, dst and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Yep, keep getting angry Phantom. Keep making it out that I'm doing something horribly wrong, but this is JUST A GAME. There are FAR more important things than MD. Tal, Watcher, The Warrior and 9 others 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grido Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Chewett' timestamp='1343884855' post='118969'] delegation is an important part of running a team. You cant and shouldnt do everything, if you gave everyone in the TK's some WPRC's and such, then all you need to do is ask X to give reward Y out which doesnt take long at all. If you personally give all the rewards out, then TK's become much more pointless and a one man band. [/quote] [quote name='Seigheart' timestamp='1343952764' post='119052'] Yes, you are right Chewett. The TKs are meant exactly for that. [/quote] So why isn't it like that then? (or at least appear like that) Edited August 3, 2012 by Grido No one, Watcher, Liberty4life and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Zl-eye-f)-nea Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 At the end of the day Seig you have an official role in MD and you told someone you would do something in a few hours and weeks later it hasnt happened. You can delegate like Chew said there. Really its just really poor communication, same sort of issue you brought up with such passion about the council. Z Phantom Orchid, dst, ignnus and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shemhazaj Posted August 3, 2012 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 [quote name='Seigheart' timestamp='1343870222' post='118968'] I am also working 60 hours a week. When I am on MD nowadays, it is during my break at work. And the codes for the WPs are stored at home on an external harddrive. When I get home, that last thing on my mind is MD. It's sleep, and food. [/quote] [quote name='Seigheart' timestamp='1343961829' post='119055'] Like I said, I am managing the opening of three different sectors for my job, and I spend 10-15 hours a day at work because of it. I hardly have time to sleep, let alone log onto MD to give a WPC to you. [/quote] [quote name='Seigheart' timestamp='1343995988' post='119116'] There are FAR more important things than MD. [/quote] [color=#808080][i]As mr Z pointed put. You have an official role Seig. If your RL (which I agree, is more important than MD) doesn't let you to fulfill that role and you consider MD unimportant, [/i][/color] [color=#808080][i]perhaps it's time to resign and give the role to someone who does find it important and has the time and will to focus on it?[/i][/color] dst, Liberty4life, Watcher and 9 others 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 If I did not forsee a future where I would not have the ability to fufill my role, then I would. But, like other times of the year (Christmas, Exams, Summer Vacations), this is only temporary. Phantom Orchid, dst, Chewett and 5 others 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grido Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 [quote name='Grido' timestamp='1343997289' post='119126'] [quote name='Chewett' timestamp='1343884855' post='118969'] delegation is an important part of running a team. You cant and shouldnt do everything, if you gave everyone in the TK's some WPRC's and such, then all you need to do is ask X to give reward Y out which doesnt take long at all. If you personally give all the rewards out, then TK's become much more pointless and a one man band. [/quote] [quote name='Seigheart' timestamp='1343952764' post='119052'] Yes, you are right Chewett. The TKs are meant exactly for that. [/quote] So why isn't it like that then? (or at least appear like that) [/quote] If you'd care to answer? Perhaps if you could shed some light on why it's not possible to delegate we would be more understanding as a community. Watcher, Phantom Orchid, The Warrior and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 I don't have to tell the community anything. That's why. Chewett, The Warrior, Eon and 13 others 1 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shemhazaj Posted August 4, 2012 Report Share Posted August 4, 2012 [quote name='Seigheart' timestamp='1344083924' post='119232'] I don't have to tell the community anything. That's why. [/quote] [color=#808080][i]You do however have trust points, don't you?[/i][/color] [color=#808080][i]And as I remember one was already removed.[/i][/color] Watcher, No one, Chewett and 6 others 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Yeah, and? I'd need two more removed for me to be removed from my position. And in a couple weeks, I will be getting another trust point added on. What you are suggesting is that I could be removed for what exactly? A bit of understanding would be nice. Ivorak, Watcher, Phantom Orchid and 8 others 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maebius Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 What I'm curious is how there have beem ...a few replies on the forums in short order, yet I wonder if Phantom orchid has received her sponsored reward yet. I don't ask this in an accusing manner, just putting things in perspective here. We all have lives beyond MD. I understand the codes may be on another drive. But, why not take a few minutes and resolve the issue thi weekend over a spaRE 10 minutes and keep the arguing here minimized? Phantom Orchid, The Warrior, Liberty4life and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 When I reply I am at work and on the computer.and I plan on getting the codes as soon as I have a chance, probably tonight, or tomorrow. I even put a reminder on my BBB to remind me. ignnus, Chewett, Watcher and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grido Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 [quote name='Grido' timestamp='1344063410' post='119184'] If you'd care to answer? Perhaps if you could shed some light on why it's not possible to delegate [b]we would be more understanding as a community[/b]. [/quote] [quote name='Seigheart' timestamp='1344083924' post='119232'] I don't have to tell the community anything. That's why. [/quote] [quote name='Seigheart' timestamp='1344129658' post='119263'] ... A bit of [b]understanding [/b]would be nice. [/quote] I think it's clear why there's no/little understanding from the community. dst, The Warrior, Watcher and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Grido, wasn't it you that denied explaining anything a few months ago for some incident? Claiming that you didn't have to tell anyone anything if you didn't want to? The Warrior, Sasha Lilias, Watcher and 6 others 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grido Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 Yes, a year ago in fact. But I didn't then ask people for some understanding regarding it. Besides which I believe I clarified that I didn't have to by way of how my position works, you on the other hand, I'm pretty sure are meant to be fairly open about stuff - definition is of course loose, not saying you're going against your role or anything when you deny explaining. If you don't want to answer, don't, but then don't expect a whole lot of understanding from people if you choose that route. dst, Menhir, Liberty4life and 6 others 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasha Lilias Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) What astounds me is that, within the four days of this complaint being filed, you have had little time to get the codes needed, but have had enough time to respond with arguments and reasoning, as poor as they may be, to your actions. Perhaps you should focus less on arguing about what you have or haven't done, and spend that time trying to right the wrong? No? Edit: Spelling corrections Edited August 5, 2012 by Sasha Lilias Menhir, Phantom Orchid, The Warrior and 5 others 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 If you actually read the arguement, you'd know that I am at work when I respond, and the codes are at home where I am without internet access. No one, Chewett, The Warrior and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Orchid Posted August 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 If you do not have internet access at home, and that is where the WP codes are - then how are you able to fulfill the obligations of your role? Liberty4life and The Warrior 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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