MD Awards 2014

[Grido]

So, the year has rolled around once more, and so we once again have our MD Awards.

 

Currently it will be Rophs and myself organising, along with a third person. If you want to help out please drop either of us a message, ideally you should have been to at least one previous awards.

Ailith, dst and myself will be hosting this year.

 

Discussion wise, I have already had feedback telling me to be more organised with it this year, including handing out the trophies during the ceremony itself, so I shall arrange for that to happen, medal boxes also already have the 2014 md award ready on it so they can also be given out at the time. Rophs is going to help me with the timings and things not getting delayed. Please let us know of any other issues you found last year in the hopes that they can be overcome on this one.

 

All aspects of the awards are up for discussion up until the point each part begins. The exact categories and nominees will be discussed in separate threads to this, but the total amount of categories or min/max nominees for each category might be discussed here.

The date and time of the ceremony should also be discussed here, I have currently proposed it to be just after Christmas, on the 28th December.

 

 

Information relating to how the awards will run as it currently stands;

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- There will be a maximum of 10 categories.
- The previous categories will be listed in a thread, and players can then argue for different ones to be added/removed - if players agree, then it will be so.
- Certain categories have relevant restrictions on them, these can be changed/created/removed, but only prior to nominations opening.


- There will be 3 people counting votes and organising this. These people will not be able to be nominated, however they are able to vote.
- You may not nominate those who belong to the same land as yourself (this not only means hard-coded, but also those people considered part of certain lands). "This is an MD awards event, if a person deserves one of the awards, it is on the global level, not on local level, however capable the person is, which justifies the ban of the land nominations , possibly votes too".* If you note nominations slipping through this, please let an organiser know.

- There will be a minimum of 3 and a maximum of 5 players nominated for each category.
- Past winners will be allowed to be nominated again, however, if there are more than 5 names nominated when it closes, those will be the first removed.
- Mur cannot be nominated (sorry Mur), and Chewett cannot be nominated for Top Techy (or another award along the same lines).
- Previous Fossil (or a similar award if that does not exist this year) winners, cannot win again.
- You may only nominate one person per category. If you nominate multiple people, none will be added.
- You may not nominate yourself, or another account you play.
- No editing posts in the nomination thread - purely because I'll potentially get confused.


- We will ideally use the in game voting system.
- There's no restriction on voting for those of the same land.
- There will be no restriction on the amount of voters, there will however be a limited timeframe to vote in - this will be 11 days.
- You do not have to vote in each category (though it's preferable).
- If you vote for yourself in anything, all your votes will be discounted.
- If players that have voted are detected as alts of each other, all associated votes will be discounted. (If you have multiple accounts, you're fine, but only vote once per person please), they will also be disqualified from any nominations your accounts may have.
- Players under 20 AD will be unable to vote.


I can't think of any other particular details currently, please ask if you think I've missed anything (in addition to discussing various points). If you are against any aspect with how it's set to run, please raise it and suggest alternatives.

 

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Associated to a land includes being part of an alliance or a citizen, as well as those on temporary absence from them, but is not exclusive to just that mechanical association. It also extends to a player who feels they belong to a certain land, or who through largely exclusive association or actions is viewed as of a certain land. Those who since those actions visibly associate themselves with another land would then no longer be thought of as with the former.
Alliance hoppers, or those that take alliances without intended association with the land the new alliance is a part of are exceptions and will be treated based on perception, rather than mechanical.

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(The above is mostly copied from last year, so there may be some inaccuraces - please point them out)

 

 

Schedule for the process is as follows;

Sun 16th November - Discussion thread opens

Sun 23rd November - Categories thread opens

Sun 30th November - Cats closes, Nominations open

Sun 7th December - Nominations close

Wed 10th December - Voting opens

Sun 21st December - Voting closes

Sun 28th December - Proposed Award Ceremony date

 

 

 

All previous MD Award threads can be found via the topic-tagging system under "MD Awards" if you don't know how to get to that, look just below the title of the thread and click on the words below the Started by.. line.

Edited January 3, 2015 by Grido

[Syrian]

its been a year and the winners of last year still havnt been awarded their trophys (inventory ones), will we be getting these?

[Grido]

I was under the impression that had been done, will look into that, presuming you're correct, next couple days hopefully.

[Rophs]

Due to stupidity on my part I will not be organizing this event any more.

[Grido]

The event organisers have been updated to how they now currently stand; Ailith, dst, and myself.

 

Also, Syrian, it's been confirmed that they weren't given out, so will be sorting that out for last year's winners.

Edited November 16, 2014 by Grido

[Chewett]

I was under the impression that had been done, will look into that, presuming you're correct, next couple days hopefully.

I have repeatedly posted and told you about this. Hence the whole me telling you that It would be nice if its organised better this year.

[Grido]

I thought you just meant they were really late, rather than not done at all, either way, will be sorted out, and this year wont have those complications :)

 

Any other points people would like to discuss, particularly suitability of the event ceremony date

[Chewett]

- There will be a maximum of 10 categories.

Do not specify how many cateogories.

- There will be a minimum of 3 and a maximum of 5 players nominated for each category.

Previous years you have arbitarily decided who is in and out. This is entirely unfair. I raised concern on this previously and you were flippant. I do not feel this is the correct response. Please give a public answer one way or another.

- Past winners will be allowed to be nominated again, however, if there are more than 5 names nominated when it closes, those will be the first removed.

Unfair. Remove this. If they are the best they should be in with everybody else. You are trying to give more people a chance to make it "nice".


- Mur cannot be nominated (sorry Mur), and Chewett cannot be nominated for Top Techy (or another award along the same lines).

Remove my name and that restriction. I havent made MDscript this year so could not be nominated anyway. If I did make some I would like to be able to get it.

- Previous Fossil (or a similar award if that does not exist this year) winners, cannot win again.

Why? There is absoluely no reason to have this restriction other to be "fair" again. Make it so that the best fossil can get the award. Simple as that.


- There will be no restriction on the amount of voters, there will however be a limited timeframe to vote in - this will be 11 days.

11 is arbitary, make it two weeks to be entirely fair. As thats two full work weeks and two full weekends.

- If you vote for yourself in anything, all your votes will be discounted.

When was this ever a rule? Why? Whats the point?

Edited November 26, 2014 by Chewett

[Grido]

- There will be a maximum of 10 categories.
Do not specify how many cateogories.

- There will be a minimum of 3 and a maximum of 5 players nominated for each category.
Previous years you have arbitarily decided who is in and out. This is entirely unfair. I raised concern on this previously and you were flippant. I do not feel this is the correct response. Please give a public answer one way or another.

- Past winners will be allowed to be nominated again, however, if there are more than 5 names nominated when it closes, those will be the first removed.

Unfair. Remove this. If they are the best they should be in with everybody else. You are trying to give more people a chance to make it "nice".


- Mur cannot be nominated (sorry Mur), and Chewett cannot be nominated for Top Techy (or another award along the same lines).

Remove my name and that restriction. I havent made MDscript this year so could not be nominated anyway. If I did make some I would like to be able to get it.

- Previous Fossil (or a similar award if that does not exist this year) winners, cannot win again.

Why? There is absoluely no reason to have this restriction other to be "fair" again. Make it so that the best fossil can get the award. Simple as that.


- There will be no restriction on the amount of voters, there will however be a limited timeframe to vote in - this will be 11 days.

11 is arbitary, make it two weeks to be entirely fair. As thats two full work weeks and two full weekends.

- If you vote for yourself in anything, all your votes will be discounted.

When was this ever a rule? Why? Whats the point?

[color=purple]With all rules if the public wishes to change them, gather support (2 or more, more in favour than against) and the rules will change. (Including that which you asked for a public response on)

 

11 days wasn't arbitrary, it was the amount of time from the opening to a week on Sunday afterwards, two full weekends within that time.

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[Syrian]

 There will be a maximum of 10 categories.-

Do not specify how many cateogories.

- There will be a minimum of 3 and a maximum of 5 players nominated for each category.

Previous years you have arbitarily decided who is in and out. This is entirely unfair. I raised concern on this previously and you were flippant. I do not feel this is the correct response. Please give a public answer one way or another.

- Past winners will be allowed to be nominated again, however, if there are more than 5 names nominated when it closes, those will be the first removed.

Unfair. Remove this. If they are the best they should be in with everybody else. You are trying to give more people a chance to make it "nice".


- Mur cannot be nominated (sorry Mur), and Chewett cannot be nominated for Top Techy (or another award along the same lines).

Remove my name and that restriction. I havent made MDscript this year so could not be nominated anyway. If I did make some I would like to be able to get it.

- Previous Fossil (or a similar award if that does not exist this year) winners, cannot win again.

Why? There is absoluely no reason to have this restriction other to be "fair" again. Make it so that the best fossil can get the award. Simple as that."

 

 

 

 

i agree with these

Edited November 27, 2014 by Syrian

[Grido]

With regard to min/max nominees, my personal opinion would be it would be pointless having a category with only the one nominee, for instance. I believe there should be a minimum of some sort.

[Syrian]

so have a min but no max, max is highly unfair 

[Kittie]

Well if there is at least two people in the min, then you have a choice between those two people. If there is only one person then they by default have won that award.

 

However I agree a max is a bit much. 

Edited November 27, 2014 by Kittie

[Assira the Black]

 There will be a maximum of 10 categories.-

Do not specify how many cateogories.

- There will be a minimum of 3 and a maximum of 5 players nominated for each category.

Previous years you have arbitarily decided who is in and out. This is entirely unfair. I raised concern on this previously and you were flippant. I do not feel this is the correct response. Please give a public answer one way or another.

- Past winners will be allowed to be nominated again, however, if there are more than 5 names nominated when it closes, those will be the first removed.

Unfair. Remove this. If they are the best they should be in with everybody else. You are trying to give more people a chance to make it "nice".


- Mur cannot be nominated (sorry Mur), and Chewett cannot be nominated for Top Techy (or another award along the same lines).

Remove my name and that restriction. I havent made MDscript this year so could not be nominated anyway. If I did make some I would like to be able to get it.

- Previous Fossil (or a similar award if that does not exist this year) winners, cannot win again.

Why? There is absoluely no reason to have this restriction other to be "fair" again. Make it so that the best fossil can get the award. Simple as that."

 

 

 

 

i agree with these

 

 

Well if there is at least two people in the min, then you have a choice between those two people. If there is only one person then they by default have won that award.

 

However I agree a max is a bit much. 

 

 I agree with them.

Edited November 27, 2014 by Hiria

[Grido]

I just remembered the max was put into place so as not to potentially spread the votes thinly across many individuals, and increase the chances of a tie vote.

 

Aside from the min/max thing with varied statements (granted half mine), there appears to be no contestation with the comments so far, will edit them into the original post.

[Grido]

Any last comments regarding min/max nominees?

 

The nomination thread will be going live at some point in the next 24h, so would be good to get a consensus prior to that

 

I will try to leave opening it until such a consensus is reached, to a certain extent the decision can be delayed until nearing the end of the nomination thread, but obviously sooner the better :)

 

I will try to avoid being involved in the decision of it, aside from just now re-highlighting the original reasons for the implementation of them - Min so that it's not an auto-win, and Max so that the votes don't get spread too thinly.

[Kyphis the Bard]

I agree with everything Chewett said bar one point - there should be a minimum, and I do think three is a good number for that minimum.

If a category is so specialized that three or more candidates cannot be presented, then it seems to me like that category is created just to award a specific player.

 

The exception to this would be general categories that should have lots of candidates, but have simply failed to - for example, if the "Best Newbie" award only had one candidate, totally give them the award.

[Chewett]

Ailith should be allowed to win categories. Because there is no way she can change the results.

VOTE AILITH! DOWN WITH GRIDO! VOTE JOHN SMITH!

EDIT:

Solution for min/max problem

If there is only one person in a category, I nominate JOHN SMITH. ok?

Edited December 1, 2014 by Chewett

[Guest]

:)) It's ok Chewy, I'd prefer not to be nominated anyway, this kind of thing is not my thing ;)

 

VOTE JOHN SMITH!

[Chewett]

:)) It's ok Chewy, I'd prefer not to be nominated anyway, this kind of thing is not my thing ;)
 
VOTE JOHN SMITH!

no you dont get a say, shush you.

VOTE AILITH!

[Grido]

I am still looking to get a conclusion to the discussion regarding min and max for each category.

If no consensus has been reached by Saturday at 1200, the decision will fall to the organisers (Ailith, dst, and myself), and I'd rather the public made the decision on it.

[Chewett]

No min, No max.
You were the one raising the issues, no one else I think.

[Grido]

so have a min but no max, max is highly unfair 

However I agree a max is a bit much. 

 I agree with them.

...there should be a minimum, and I do think three is a good number for that minimum.

[Assira the Black]

I think people agree that a min is okay. But to have no limit on the max.

[Syrian]

min 3, no max