Root Admin Chewett Posted March 20, 2015 Root Admin Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Since Grido is really busy, and to reduce the number of PM's that people have to send him, having a new recruitment agent for LHO's will be a major boost. This will be the person who handles recruitment. They will send a persons name to grido for a final "yes/no" which will almost always be yes. Do you have any comments about this? Do you think you could do this job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curiose Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Not particularly about the job posting in general, but I have a question about typical recruitments (if this is the wrong spot, apologies). It's stated that applications should receive a yes more so than a no... A couple times I have seen folk get upset at the ignorance of an LHO. A lot of times, what they say is taken something akin to what a GM says. As in, it's something to be relied upon and respected. If the LHO does not have the qualifications to be an LHO, but is one, that would, I think reasonably, put less faith in them as a while for their reliability. Could we perhaps have a cleaner screening process? Or perhaps, less yes and more no? I don't know if this is feasible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasha Lilias Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 I hear people say a lot about people needing the right "requirements" to be LHO yet no one ever seems to be giving any idea as to what these may be? Should an LHO know everything there is to know in the game? Can they specialise in areas? (After all, the LHOs are meant to be a team; teams work together, no?) Or should it be a general knowledge of things in realm? Perhaps these "requirements" will fit into here:http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/16401-lho-improvements-new-md-guide/#entry163243 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curiose Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) Essentially nothing any different than someone in a place of power : Reasonable experience, integrity, willingness to learn and help, and knowledge (to name a few). I would expect that from anyone, really, but it is more imperative with those who are literally entrusted to aid the next generation of players in the game, and maintain it. Edit: My post wasn't a nitpick, either. I have no real disgruntles with the LHOs or their doings, but asked a query. I gave a mild suggestion of what I feel would be helpful. I also don't expect every single option to be feasible or doable. Edited March 20, 2015 by Curiose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeoshattr Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 I agree with what Chew says - I think a new recruitment agent would be helpful. We could have nominations, a vote, or the person could simply be named by Grido&co - I wouldn't mind. I believe the most important characteristics of the person should be activity and a good, clean record. @Sasha and Curiose I sort of agree with both. I think LHOs should have some broad, basic knowledge to handle questions that new players have (I imagine a LHO shouldn't be trumped by something a newbie might ask) but they could each specialise in different fields to handle questions that older players might have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Chewett Posted March 20, 2015 Author Root Admin Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Not particularly about the job posting in general, but I have a question about typical recruitments (if this is the wrong spot, apologies). It's stated that applications should receive a yes more so than a no... A couple times I have seen folk get upset at the ignorance of an LHO. A lot of times, what they say is taken something akin to what a GM says. As in, it's something to be relied upon and respected. If the LHO does not have the qualifications to be an LHO, but is one, that would, I think reasonably, put less faith in them as a while for their reliability. You misunderstand me here. The recruitment agent would screen the person, and decide yes/no themselves. This would be tough/easy but once they have approved them, Grido would be asked for his opinion and at this stage, its almost certainly going to be a yes, since he is just giving a final approval. If they have got through the recruitment agent they should be considered good as a LHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dst Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Wasn't there a poll Grido used to make for each aspiring LHO? Is that still valid? Imo that was a pretty good tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackshade Rider Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 (edited) Seems nice id be interested in this but I already know I am to young for it and that there is more people that are more qualified. But I do think it is a good idea Edited March 20, 2015 by blackrider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasha Lilias Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 Wasn't there a poll Grido used to make for each aspiring LHO? Is that still valid? Imo that was a pretty good tool. The problem with polls is that they can quite easily become votes of friendship, rather than if someone does the job correctly or not. Being recruited for LHO shouldn't be a popularity vote, but more if one can do the job at an expected level whilst maintaining a certain level of 'approachability'. Fang Archbane, dst, Kaya and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackshade Rider Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 you seem to have a good point sasha dst and Fang Archbane 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curiose Posted March 20, 2015 Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 You misunderstand me here. The recruitment agent would screen the person, and decide yes/no themselves. This would be tough/easy but once they have approved them, Grido would be asked for his opinion and at this stage, its almost certainly going to be a yes, since he is just giving a final approval. If they have got through the recruitment agent they should be considered good as a LHO. Oh, OK. Thanks for that clarification. I think I understand what you mean. I'll likely respond again, later in full. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dst Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) The problem with polls is that they can quite easily become votes of friendship, rather than if someone does the job correctly or not. Being recruited for LHO shouldn't be a popularity vote, but more if one can do the job at an expected level whilst maintaining a certain level of 'approachability'. That shows how much knowledge you have about LHOs internal affairs. And you ARE an LHO! The poll was initiated by Grido INETRNALLY for the LHOs about the new LHO.Since Grido is inactive and it's supposed that LHOs are ones of the most active people in MD, they usually have a pretty good view about an aspiring LHO. Edited March 21, 2015 by dst Chewett, Sasha Lilias, Sunfire and 2 others 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasha Lilias Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) That shows how much knowledge you have about LHOs internal affairs. And you ARE an LHO! The poll was initiated by Grido INETRNALLY for the LHOs about the new LHO.Since Grido is inactive and it's supposed that LHOs are ones of the most active people in MD, they usually have a pretty good view about an aspiring LHO. The vote balloons (which I'm guessing you're talking about) were available for use by everyone, not just LHO's. So your point is? Or do you mean Grido asking each LHO for their opinion? Which he still does. I don't disagree about LHO's giving opinions on "aspiring" LHO's. I was making a statement about polls in general. The problem with polls Plural, more than just one. Edited March 21, 2015 by Sasha Lilias dst and Chewett 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Chewett Posted March 21, 2015 Author Root Admin Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 The vote balloons (which I'm guessing you're talking about) were available for use by everyone, not just LHO's. So your point is? Or do you mean Grido asking each LHO for their opinion? Which he still does. Previously Grido held a poll, open to all LHO's letting them vote yes or no for a LHO being admitted. This did not occur with you. This is what she is talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimrodel Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 There's nothing wrong with an lho not knowing something as long they are willing to ask around about it and confirm the accuracy before answering. I suppose we already had this discussion when we were giving DD stars. Syrian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Chewett Posted March 30, 2015 Author Root Admin Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Grido, comments?It seems like many people feel asking the current LHO's can be benifitial, but raised concern that Grido sometimes ignores his general procedure and does what he wants, see: sashaDoes anyone feel they are up to the task of becoming some kind of recruiter to handle this in lieu of Grido being exceptionally busy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dst Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Does anyone feel they are up to the task of becoming some kind of recruiter to handle this in lieu of Grido being exceptionally busy? Why just one person? How about several since one person can have periods of inactivity so the "recruiting" process should not stop cause of that (see current situation). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackshade Rider Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Why just one person? How about several since one person can have periods of inactivity so the "recruiting" process should not stop cause of that (see current situation). Dst makes a good point. sometimes people do go inactive and just log in for the active days and then loggs out. some people also sit at idle most of the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Chewett Posted March 30, 2015 Author Root Admin Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Why just one person? How about several since one person can have periods of inactivity so the "recruiting" process should not stop cause of that (see current situation).How would you imagine this work? What would their jobs be?The main point for me, would be that the person/s doing this would be the main point of contact, talk to LHO's etc. Specifically appointing people means you have a specific point of contact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasha Lilias Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 If there's going to be more than one person, will they all have the same amount of say? Or will there be a "leader" that the final decisions must go to? If so then surely that's what we're trying to avoid? On the other hand, if they all have the same amount of power...what happens if one says yes to a candidate and the other say no? Who will have the final say? (I know Grido would at the moment, but between the "recruitment agents"?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackshade Rider Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 If there is more than one person i feel it should become almost like a council and no one person has more power than the other the people selected vote on it and then you have another person appointed the leader and he or she has final say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Chewett Posted March 30, 2015 Author Root Admin Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 If there is going to be more than one person, they would be in charge of dealing with the applicant. The overall decision would have to be made by some kind of agreed vote by LHO's or a similar group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackshade Rider Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 that sounds more feasible. how many people are there going to be in this matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Chewett Posted March 30, 2015 Author Root Admin Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 I havent seen anyone volunteer to help (as I remember) so atm, none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackshade Rider Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 i will volunteer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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