Within a few months I have had multiple encounters with mentioned player. Each time he has insulted me more than once. Now is the time for me to make a "demand" for action to be taken. This player cannot continue to be allowed to walk around thinking he may say and do as he wishes with no consequences.
Backlash has insulted me with sexually offending material, sworn at me on multiple occasions and has generally harassed me.
I have been told by LHO that they have been collecting information on this player over time and I believe [b]now[/b] is the time to use that. If not I would ask those that have either been abused, or seen examples of his foul behaviour, to come forward and give evidence against him, or at least say honestly what you think.

Currently I have three different pieces of evidence, two public log entries (one made by him in my PL and one that I copied from chat and pasted into his PL) and witnesses from the park on day 126- Year 6-. All this evidence should easily be able to be given if required.

Here are my proposed punishments:
[list]
[*]Jail/Ban for at least 4 weeks.
[/list]OR
[list][*]Remove his chat access for a set amount of time (unsure how long)
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[center]This sort of behaviour [b]cannot[/b] be condoned! New players start daily, and do they really want to see this sort of thing? I certainly wouldn't, I especially wouldn't want my [b]child[/b]* to see some of the things he writes.[/center]

I hope you will all see the points that I am trying to make and don't see me as the wrongdoer.

~Sasha Lilias~

When this will be investigated, I fight as well point out that he probably did a scam vs a newbie for a grassan or such, and from what I saw seemed to fake innocence. If it gets investigated, I would like to request an IP check on the date I noted, whether he openly lied to an LHO or not- I was going to bring this up sooner or later anyways.

I too have seen him being offensive and generally rude to other players, and want him to be altcheked because he seems older than he is (or he is just really really offensive from the start)

This iis balony...I didn t say anythiing offensive (check the dictionary).If you don t undersatnd what i m saying to you ii m sorry Sarcasm is part of life you know....just grow up and let it be.

Plus I wan t too see your proof please,I don t like it when people like you spread rumors that aren t true.

Good Luck

I took your blindingly brilliant insight:

"1.
causing resentful displeasure; highly irritating, angering, or annoying: offensive television commercials.
2.
unpleasant or disagreeable to the sense: an offensive odor.
3.
repugnant to the moral sense, good taste, or the like; insulting: an offensive remark; an offensive joke. "

Let's dissect this:
1. Sasha, it seems to me, is angry, irritated, annoyed, and displeased. And according to her, you caused it. Strike 1.
2. Well, most certainly any sort of sexual harassment disagrees with my senses, and while I cannot say whether you smell for certain (such a proposition would mimic Rumi's own unfounded Slime theory), I can say that your words are displeasing to my eyes. Strike 2.
3. Chewett and Shadowseeker both have good taste and moral base, and they both testify that you are offensive. Sasha remains insulted. Strike 3.

Thank you for pointing me in the direction of the dictionary. If you had used one, you might have noted the spelling "balony," or that sarcasm can be defined as "mocking, contemptuous, or ironic language intended to convey scorn or insult," which sounds an awful lot like harassment. Gee.

Awi

Get a life litle missy,I gues your probably one of those persons who can t go to the supermarket without he's\her mamma because other kids call him\her names,and make fun of it s emo dress and hair:)

It s one of those persons thats best and only friend in life is his\her mom )You are special to your mom you know.

Grow up!Acept the idead that interent is full of dirt,life is full of dirt...why should this be differnet?

If I call you a Dog,you can take it in a good way...cute,cudly,loyal or in a bad way lowlife,mange, etc.It s for you too decide....I never sayd anything offensive to anybody...If you take it in an offensive way thats your own decision my litle friend.

Here you can play as a god,critiseze everybody,because people don t know who you are.I bet in real life kids bash your face in dirt,and you stil go home crying

But i devirted the subject...think about this before you act.It s so easy to throw a stone at someone...now isn t it deary?

I'm a man.

Awi

@Backslash ro: It's good that you're insulting Awiiya. You're further perpetuating the filth that landed you with your sentence in the first place. Go ahead, continue ranting, so that everyone can see just exactly why you were subjected to public banning. Bravo.

I ask everyone except backslash and Grido to stop posting her, I will be removing posts that merely inflame the issues, If backslash wants to talk about the ban he can.

Due to the nature of the offence, it was more under my remit, rather than the courts. The newbie scam that Shadow mentions, would however fall under its remit.

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[color="#ff0000"][07/05/11 16:31:57] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]ATACK ME BIITCHES!!![/color]
[07/05/11 17:30:09] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]can you give me an egg like that please?
[07/05/11 17:31:36] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]could you get me an angiene egg?;
[07/05/11 17:31:43] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]i would really like one:D
[07/05/11 17:31:52] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]but i can t get it on my own
[07/05/11 22:15:54] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]Give me some than please:D
[07/05/11 22:15:58] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]i l do it;
[07/05/11 22:17:06] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]yep
[color="#ff0000"][07/05/11 23:22:27] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]mcvitie...i think you should rest a litle
[07/05/11 23:22:40] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]maybe you should go work at mcdonalds and leave the spells to other players [/color]
[07/05/11 23:27:09] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]=)))))))))))))))))))
[07/05/11 23:28:48] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]?
[07/05/11 23:29:21] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]=)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
[07/05/11 23:29:33] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]=))))))ahahahahahahahhaha
[07/05/11 23:29:56] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]give me a creature
[07/05/11 23:30:57] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]yep:P
[07/05/11 23:30:58] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]thanks
[07/05/11 23:31:20] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]oky doky
[07/05/11 23:31:45] [b]1_-1x2_1:[/b]Go!
[07/05/11 23:32:15] [b]1_-1x2_1:[/b]oky
[07/05/11 23:32:31] [b]1_-1x3_1:[/b]so...whats up Doc?
[07/05/11 23:32:56] [b]1_-1x3_1:[/b]oo...wait you re the one who hates me
[07/05/11 23:37:59] [b]1_-1x3_1:[/b]ha?
[[color="#ff0000"]07/05/11 23:50:03] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]sasha Eat my shorts i m back bitch:D [/color]
[07/05/11 23:51:13] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]neh
[07/05/11 23:51:17] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]i don t do that
[07/05/11 23:51:19] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]i ve retired
[07/05/11 23:52:47] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]What did I say bad?
[07/05/11 23:52:58] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]bitch?
[07/05/11 23:53:09] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]thats not a bad word in the dictionary my friend:D
[07/05/11 23:53:19] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]eat means a girl dog:D
[07/05/11 23:53:27] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]my inteligent friend
[07/05/11 23:59:59] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]
[08/05/11 00:00:22] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]nice...silence me when i had an awesome comback
[08/05/11 00:00:47] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]i didn t steal no creatures
[08/05/11 00:00:53] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]who the hell keeps saying that?
[08/05/11 00:01:04] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]yep
[color="#ff0000"][08/05/11 00:01:31] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b] ([/color][color="#ff0000"][i]@SASHA I've seen people like you, but I had to pay admission![/i]) [/color]
[08/05/11 00:01:34] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]don t know
[08/05/11 00:01:44] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]i woke up ,with measges from that wise guy
[08/05/11 00:01:53] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]that i stole he s creatures and don t know what
[08/05/11 00:02:08] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]i wasn t even logged in those days
[08/05/11 00:02:19] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]don t know,don t care
[08/05/11 00:02:20] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]
[08/05/11 00:02:36] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]
[08/05/11 00:02:46] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]thank you for your faith
[08/05/11 00:03:13] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]no we re Alone: In bad company.
[color="#ff0000"][08/05/11 00:03:33] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]Plus sasha baby Any similarity between you and a human is purely coincidental! [/color]
[08/05/11 00:03:38] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]
[color="#ff0000"][08/05/11 00:03:52] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]thats why i used the word bitch:P [/color]
[08/05/11 00:04:00] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]yep
[08/05/11 00:04:01] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]ok
[08/05/11 00:04:03] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]thank you
[08/05/11 00:04:21] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]how did you raise your to max?
[08/05/11 00:04:39] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]oky doky
[08/05/11 00:05:32] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]ooo
[08/05/11 00:05:35] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]thanks:D
[08/05/11 00:05:40] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]how can i get so many losses?
[08/05/11 00:06:48] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]no...generally i get more wins than losses
[08/05/11 00:06:56] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]don t know why:))
[08/05/11 00:07:22] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]people who atack me don t expect me to have some creatures with special abilities :-??
[08/05/11 00:09:14] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]ok thank you:)
[08/05/11 00:10:01] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]how many times can i atac kit?
[08/05/11 00:10:48] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]ok
[08/05/11 00:11:00] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]hey lone wolf how did you manage to get 6 mil creat xp?
[08/05/11 00:11:47] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]and where dd you get silver coins?
[08/05/11 00:14:09] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]and any other places?
[08/05/11 00:16:24] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]and how much do they cost?
[08/05/11 00:16:51] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]aha
[08/05/11 00:16:53] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]ok
[color="#ff0000"][08/05/11 00:18:30] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]<silence spell cast> sasha lilias [/color]
[08/05/11 00:18:32] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]
[08/05/11 00:18:39] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]nobody cares
[08/05/11 00:18:48] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]
[08/05/11 00:19:57] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]?
[08/05/11 00:19:58] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]?
[08/05/11 00:19:59] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]?
[08/05/11 00:20:32] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]what?
[08/05/11 00:20:41] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]doing what?
[08/05/11 00:20:55] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]what did i do?
[08/05/11 00:21:28] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]ha?
[08/05/11 00:21:33] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]i don t get it
[08/05/11 00:21:38] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]what did i do?
[08/05/11 00:21:52] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]that i told her to shut up?
[08/05/11 00:22:02] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]can t i say that or what?
[08/05/11 00:22:24] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]i can t say those words in public now?
[08/05/11 00:22:28] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]are they immoral or what?
[08/05/11 00:25:35] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]tell me please:P
[08/05/11 00:25:37] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]in a pm at least
[08/05/11 00:25:43] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]:)thank you
[08/05/11 00:30:35] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]
[08/05/11 00:30:47] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]
[08/05/11 00:31:17] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]no
[08/05/11 00:31:20] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]no dance
[08/05/11 00:31:26] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]SHOUTS: Disco disco party party!!!!!!
[08/05/11 00:31:47] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b] [[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrphLUWZv3Q"]Video link[/url]]
[08/05/11 00:31:50] [b]1_0x2_1:[/b]this is better:D
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The contents of the log contain swearing, yes, the alternate word for female dog is a swear word, as much as you might deny it.
Multiple people have expressed complaints about you, I know 4 that came directly to me, there's an additional 4 here, I'm pretty sure there are others who would as well, given the option. This is also against the rules.

As previously mentioned, I believe the contents of this case to fall under my area, rather than the courts, particularly since this is pretty clear cut in my opinion.

In addition to all above, he has committed similar offences before with a previous account. After some convincing, I managed to get an alt check on him from Mur (this was around 6-8 weeks ago, it's what I call fore-planning), and identified the other accounts he has had in the past, this is how I know that it has happened before. The previous account is in the 80k id region, and was banned by Jonn for the same reasoning "for insulting several ppl in chat and in the player logs" displaying that even with time, he hasn't learnt how to adjust his behaviour to fit in with the game. Elements on the previous account's profile page further connect the two players to be one and the same.

My explaining my actions here is courtesy, whilst I may on occasion, I don't have to fully explain the bans that I make. If anyone disputes any of my actions, or disagrees with them, they are welcome to discuss it with me, or complain to either the council or Mur, if they agree with you the decision may be overturned, but considering my knowledge of the rules et al you may find it difficult to overturn the decisions I make. In the case where you truly think I have erred in judgement I would recommend a trial to overturn the decision on the forum....but gather a little support first.

Backlash, feel free to attempt a defence here.

Edited May 9, 201115 yr by Chewett
blanked out silence spell

First of all,I didn t use any swearing words:) Tell me the swearing words.What bitch?Thats a female dog you know it s not offensive,the street meaning of that word is different but i guessed that you are wel enough edjucated to know that.

And if i can get 5-7 people to say that you keep insulting them,and i don t know what than you will get banned? Because it s not hard to do that you know.

You Jaild me without having a chance to prove you guys are wrong.

And you keep saying i had i don t know what other account,prove it my litle friend.It s just that easy,just because you presume somehting dosen t mean it s right.

And about that scam...It didn t exist,or maybe someone else did it ,i don t know...i never had those creatures check me out if you don t belive me,now s the perfect time since i m in jail.Only it was easy to put the blame on somebody.

Plus you never gave a valid answer,to why are you doing this.You told me this "I m the God of the paper cabbin,and this is in my power" .Thank you for your enlightment:))

And again search it up in a real dictionary,(oxford) not google,the meaning of the word bitch.

thank you

(How long wil this sentence last for life?)

I thought the word I was indicating with this was clear...[quote]The contents of the log contain swearing, [u][b]yes, the alternate word for female dog is a swear word[/b][/u], as much as you might deny it.[/quote]
[b][u]
Bitch[/u][/b]

[b]noun[/b]
[list][*]1 a female dog , wolf, fox, or otter.[*]2 informal a spiteful or unpleasant woman.[*]black slang a woman (used in a non-derogatory sense).[*]a person who is completely subservient to another.[*]3 ([b]a bitch[/b]) informal a difficult or unpleasant situation or thing:[i]working the night shift is a bitch[/i][*]4 informal a complaint:[i]my big bitch is that there's nothing new here[/i][/list]
[b] verb[/b]
[[i]no object[/i]] informal make spitefully critical comments:[i]everybody was [b]bitching about[/b] their colleagues

[/i]--That's from the Oxford English dictionary btw, the online one, since you wanted a definition from that particular dictionary.

You don't know that Sasha is or isn't black, so I'd highly doubt that you're using non-offensive black slang there. And you consider calling a person a dog as non-offensive? Regardless of the particular word used, the intent that the word causes is what provokes the response. The remaining definitions all clarify themselves as offensive. So yes, the word "Bitch" is a swearword.


You'd need evidence of said offensiveness as well, to prevent people ganging up on others.

I gave you a chance to prove me wrong, you used said time to make fun of the situation and as someone said after the event "almost like he was trying to insult you" (he=backlash, you=Grido), so you wasted the time you were given, that isn't my fault.

As I have previously stated, I had an alt check done on you by Mur, that is how I know the previous account was you, it isn't me "presuming" it.

The scam is not for discussion here, it is not why you were banned, it is also outside my remit to discuss a verdict on it.

I did it because it's in my remit to make a decision on it, I'm allowed to, so I did, other people are also allowed to overturn me if it's in their remit.

The maximum sentence that was recommended by others was 4 weeks, we'll talk then, and see if your attitude has changed at all, send me a message (there is a way, think of it as a mini-quest) and say when you'll be online for the following few days after the 4 weeks are up.


~Please~ don't ask me to repeat the same things again.

Thats just siilly what you just said...you see?Maybe i didn t mean it as a swear...it has multyple posbilities...like the word cock for example.

Show me that alt check you preformed,because there is no way in hell that i had that account...if i did please tell me the password at least and stuff cause than i would like to try to get that account unbanned:)

And 4 weeks is a tad harsh i belive for these acusations...but i gues you are God,like Xerxes in 300 or something

It don't see how it's relevant whether it was intended as a swear word or not.
Multiple people found your talk and attitude offensive, hence the ban.

There's a minimum level of decorum, and I think you know it full well.

It is a swear word though, and it was taken offensively, however you intended it, you were warned multiple times about your behaviour by different LHOs (and don't question this, I trust them to know they weren't lying about it), so you must have known that your attitude was offensive, and yet you kept it up. Players are allowed mistakes, the ability to change after being told they're being offensive, but you didn't take yours.

I'd suggest you stop listing words that are widely considered swear words by the vast majority of the populous, just because I use a word doesn't mean I don't know it's a swear word, or just because I don't mean it offensively, it is still a swear word, it still holds offensiveness to some people. This game is for all ages, I know that some as young as 12 (or younger) have, or do play MD, I am also aware that a number of their parents wouldn't appreciate them seeing words like those, that is why we don't allow them.

~I~ didn't do the alt check, Mur did. And for me to show you the alt check would list like [b][id] name[/b] it wouldn't be corroborative at all for you, be pointless. That it happened before heightens the fact, but you still performed the actions, so you'd still have been banned regardless of that account.

Let the time cool your attitude, then you might be received better in the community. Not God, god, I don't capitalise the g.

Do you see your self write this? It s really pathetic you know...i know players like you support each other "apa,aerul si fraierul asa i?"

And about that account the ip s can t match you know and i l tell you a good reason why you are wrong...this is a new pc i ve bought recently,that account had to be created a long time ago before this one.The ip s can t match,it s just not posible.I know I didn t create any other accounts,this pc is as old as this account...so tell me my smart friend why do you keep saying it s my other account?

And i don t care if you wrote god with a capital letter or not,you stil wrote it.So probably you think your better than other people,well this isn t real life,if you d open your eyes a litle and went out to take a deep breath,you would see my friend,that this is not reallity:)

And please stop trying to be so smart,it s just not you,speak in a normal tone.Don t try to be so formal my friend;) Ai inteles?

Please don't try and talk to me in Romanian, I don't know the language, and it's annoying having to google translate.

Don't attempt to insult me, it won't work, I have siblings that have been doing that my entire life.

I assure you, the IPs match. To repeat myself, again, even without the IP match, you would still have been banned.

The capital letter on god makes a large difference to some people, me included. I'm fully aware of the concepts of the internet, but thank you for a basic understanding of it.

Ahh excellent, resorting to insulting mannerisms, this is how I speak, ask around. Byddai i ddweud peidiwch â cheisio bod yn idiot, ond nid fi yn meddwl y gallwch chi helpu.

Aham.And for this last sentence "Byddai i ddweud peidiwch â cheisio bod yn idiot, ond nid fi yn meddwl y gallwch chi helpu. " shouldn t you jail yourself? It s an insult.not a direct one but stil it s insulting.

My friend you know romanian:P And those ip s can t match:)) It s just that simple,I told you why,if you are so well educated than you will understand,if not you will blaber about it all day long,because this makes you happy,acuse others and pick on them this way.It s not a fair match you know,it s like if we would to play a game of chekkers and I would to hold a shotgun to your head...

But no matter,you will get what you deserve sooner or later:)

[quote name='backlash ro' timestamp='1304979019' post='84273']
And about that account the ip s can t match you know and i l tell you a good reason why you are wrong...this is a new pc i ve bought recently,that account had to be created a long time ago before this one.The ip s can t match,it s just not posible.I know I didn t create any other accounts,this pc is as old as this account...so tell me my smart friend why do you keep saying it s my other account?
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[font="Book Antiqua"][color="#696969"]that actually proves nothing.
I changed my PC two times already and still have the same IP.
It's assigned to the router by my internet provider.[/color][/font]

[quote name='Shemhazaj' timestamp='1305013045' post='84287']
[font="Book Antiqua"][color="#696969"]that actually proves nothing.
I changed my PC two times already and still have the same IP.
It's assigned to the router by my internet provider.[/color][/font]
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Yes but,what would you say if told you the reason why i bought a new pc cause i ve mooved out from home? But I guess it s logical to bring my interent conection with me right?

I couldn t posibly ask for a new conection at my place,it s just not posible

Or better yet they gave me the same Ip number so that you guys could prove me wrong now...am i right ?

(And you guys are the ones who take the calls here,really...nice )

All you currently are riding on about is that the IP check could not be true.

Okay, so even if it were wrong, why would that remove you from jail? Simply the fact that you acted the way you did will result in this jail sentence.

Currently you are not being productive at all, and I am pondering over closing this topic because of this. You exactly know why we refuse to let you continue and keep talking about how we should give you a chance- we gave you many, you are currently playing with your chance to argue against this sentence.

If you wish to present any real evidence as to why you should not be in jail, then please do so.

The fact that you are indeed an alt of someone who was banned for the same offense before is not open to debate, for Grido knows it as a fact.

I will be closing this post in 24 hours since you have merely been rude to others and lied about something Grido knows as a fact. If you continue to be insulting and rude you shall receive a forum ban for the same amount of time as your ingame one.

[quote name='Chewett' timestamp='1305041099' post='84296']
If you wish to present any real evidence as to why you should not be in jail, then please do so.

The fact that you are indeed an alt of someone who was banned for the same offense before is not open to debate, for Grido knows it as a fact.

I will be closing this post in 24 hours since you have merely been rude to others and lied about something Grido knows as a fact. If you continue to be insulting and rude you shall receive a forum ban for the same amount of time as your ingame one.
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and now you delete posts too?? NICE NICE ,well thank you I see democracy rules here....free speach etc

Nobody said this was a democracy...

And forum rules are vaguely different than game rules, I made that statement on the forum, not in game. Talk to Chewett (Forum Admin) if you have anything against the post I made.

I'm also pretty certain I don't actually know Romanian, I would've thought I'd be aware of that.

neh me post was delted...a response:)