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No offense meant at Phantom Orchids , however I find the rewards the TK's have offered for her quest, considering the relative (emphasise on relative) simplicity of the quest, to be incredibly excessive. Some of MD's most valuable assets do not deserve to be offered for the Dream Quest Part 2.

While it does require extensive knowledge to have any chance of winning first place, the simplicity that most entries are capable of being while still being good make it, to me at least, unworth of such incredible prizes as Morphs, Wishpoints, and "Any shop creature, limited edition or otherwise" (which, fyi, far as I hear means that it includes Morphs since you could for a short period get them in the shop. Might be wrong on that though, and I doubt Seigheart would honor it even if I am right)

Because, you know, the TKs have been burned to the ground, that we don't do anything. That I have all this "power" that went to my head.

Of course I would upset people. They aren't getting everything they wanted. Sorry, but that's life. I have to keep a check of balances here.

Yes, I deem quests worthy or not. I can't just go sponsoring absolutely anything someone claims is a quest. That's just ridiculous.

You clearly put a lot of thought into your post Cury.

And claiming that I've burned down the TKs. Well, considering that you effectively put me in charge of the TKs when you had your hissy fit, what does that say about you?

Curiose - calm it down. "Have you even once thought that, hey, maybe ths is wrong to actually insult people when they request something, or insult their quest, or generally, be a douchebag to everyone in MD." There's no reason to be hostile to ZenTao, her post was entirely reasonable, and though it may come from a different perspective, your own abusive response is uncalled for. I'll be direct with you, since that seems to be the style you most employ: I'm tired of seeing such tactless rampages. There's no excuse to meet poor behavior with equally poor behavior.

Frankly I would like to see Seigheart handle requests in a more diplomatic manner. That said - the distinction between asking for a specific reward and indicating that a quest exists which he might want to sponsor makes sense. I'm all for transparency, especially in such a crucial role as Seigheart's.

Awi

Yes, you're right, feel free to SUGGEST rewards.

And again, you're right. But the TKs are not here to sponsor every quest and event. If it is a lousy event/quest, we're not going to sponsor it.

Btw; Do not confuse lousy, and simple. There is a difference.

why can't you guys(girl) make a masked screenname(s) ingame and have a realtime questionairre? Why bring popularity to the forum and not the game?

Do you know who else is on the council, or are you unaware of each others identities?

Is there a sort of checks and balance to make sure the counsel also is being fair in making choices and would your actions as counsel always be visible to the public?

If you post consecutively within 5 minutes of your previous post, they automatically merge. As Shadowseeker said, we can't split posts.

Now, my question;
What would you like to happen with the kingship system?

How would you describe your overall change in perspective as a group regarding MD and it's community having gained this role?

Z

Ah, I have never used an illusion before. As I do not have any and don't know how they work. So, I apologize. Perhaps this idea could then be implemented into the Invisibility spell?

I disagree Master of controversy should be added. I personally dont think scandals and such should be awarded and it does overlap between best villein. To give some view, i would say Eon would win both prizes since he has been quite villein like this year, assuming he doesn't see the loophole in voting or doesnt want to take it.

I agree with removing best quote
i agree with merging "Best Artist" and "Paragon Papers"
I feel best quote should be removed
I disagree that MD Clown should be added this time around, perhaps next time if lots of people like said idea.

[quote name='Rhaegar Targaryen' timestamp='1322500020' post='96773']
It's kinda wrong to enter in the "corruption" possibility seas and to stop on the first checkpoint. There will never, or rarely, be true "winners" of these categories, and if you try to limit it to force out some kind of "proper result" it will only turn bad.
Make it fair, and let the mass pick whom ever it wants to pick.
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I couldn't agree more. The revelation that weight was given to certain voters in a previous election or elections was very unsettling to me - it seemed to me that a ruling clique of veterans wished to dictate the course of the awards. I don't know how realistic this is to suggest, but ideally I think we should have one vote per player ([u]not[/u] per character/account) and no more. A restriction on minimum active days makes sense to me, but apart from that, I say formulaic determinations of vote counts should be avoided.

If we remove the option for land citizens to vote for other citizens of their homeland, let's make Friendlists too.

Grido cannot vote for his best buddies: player A, B and C.
Grido Hates Player D, so if he votes for Player D, he doubles his vote actually...



It's kinda wrong to enter in the "corruption" possibility seas and to stop on the first checkpoint. There will never, or rarely, be true "winners" of these categories, and if you try to limit it to force out some kind of "proper result" it will only turn bad.
Make it fair, and let the mass pick whom ever it wants to pick.

I have a tormented soul with 1 token, Emerald glare I will sell it for 2 gold pm me if interested.

Thank you all for the birthday wishes!

The one question I have is...

How can you differentiate from stealing and getting gifted/rewarded?

I "took" Mur's 3 7sided rare dice a while ago. I don't think he'd consider it stealing, and they are mine now, but I wouldn't call it stealing either. So where is the line between stealing and getting?

Ignnus you are entitled for your own opinion... if you want to neg rep me go ahead an do so it will not change anything though.

I am not impressed by the suggestion of a time delay on people receiving rewards, or banning the same people getting rewards. I used to race when I was a kid and a teacher once told me to run slower, so the other kids could win the races. I found it then, and now, ridiculous.

As for nominations....how about we just do what pretty much every award ceremony in the world does and do it based on number of votes or ranking numbers (so if there are 5 people to vote for you give one person a 1, one a 2, one a 3 etc)? Maybe I'm missing something.

Z

[quote name='Chewett' timestamp='1321881114' post='96338']
Once you have placed a bid, you should be honor bound to make it. Retracting it after making the price go up lots is both rude and plain wrong.

BloodPrince you should keep the bid as it is, Or, shadow has the chance to take his bid down to what you took before.

You should honor your bids, what you did is untrustworthy and sneaky.
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Chewett I never said Shadow can't do that. I only said I retract nothing about shadow.

Which, were it a real auction, would have been a binding offer. Fine. I will change my highest bid to 3gc 5sc, anyone bidding over it can have it.

Try to see it from my perspective for once- I see someone raising a price, then silently removing, and then refusing to tell why until I say I refuse to pay the higher price?

Edit: And actually, no, to me the resource is not worth a lot more, on accounts that I can gather them "for free". It takes time, but that's what I have plenty of in MD...but no outlet for. I simply loathe being "scammed" now, because that's simply what it looked like to me.

[color=#008000][i]@ McVitie: Read up, it appears that Eon's behaviour has been compared to far worse than Mugabe (..but Im not about to get into African Politics )[/i][/color]

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As I have said before, if you spend more time training than chatting, roleplaying and complaining (this goes for all of you) perhaps then you will be able to grind stats like he has managed. Unlike some players, Eon has not used bugs to raise his stats, he has used his brain, initiatives and money. if you cannot do the same then quit your whining. As for the SD? Well he can use it however he bloody well wants to. He earnt it as a prize for winning the BHC. So unless you have a problem with him winning the BHC, I would also stop complaining about that. There is a reason it is given as a reward, and it's not so that he can just admire the title and number.
Thirdly, do you not perhaps think he attacks you so many times, depletes resources and causes so much "harassment*" because of the amount of harassment he gets from others? Perhaps it is his way of getting his own back.[/quote]

[i][color="#008000"] This whole attitude of "Quit whining and work harder" is very disappointing. One fails to realise that the people who play MD come from all walks of life and varying economic backgrounds tied together with various financial responsibilities. To say: " he has used his brain, initiatives and money. if you cannot do the same then quit your whining" is very myopic and stupid. I don't need to point out that not everyone is able to grind or spend the large sums of money that Eon has pumped into MD ergo this argument fails to hold water.[/color][/i]

[i][color="#008000"]Eon gets harassment from who?! Does he own land that is constantly being depleted of it resources from other people? Does he own resources that people are taking and selling to others? Or are you talking about the needles? Intelligence and money, doesn't mean anything [to me] if you show general disrespect. [/color][/i]

[color=#0000ff]Several posts moved from http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/10978-how-kings-should-have-handled-eon-issue/[/color]
[color=#0000ff]-Burns[/color]

[quote name='Kamisha' timestamp='1321694033' post='96180 ]I have to support mur it is up to the kings to use there powers as they see fit. However I have never had a problem with eon and I just don't see why people are so intently focused on him. I don't know if people feel threatened or just plain annoyed. If they are you can just hangout in the sanctuary for a while then leave later. Fighting is part of the game people.[/quote]

[color=#008000][i]@ Kamisha. The rest of us are so intently focused on Eon because we have nothing better to do, than to gang up on someone who clearly has oodles of respect for players and the game and demonstrates his/her respect by depleting resources, dishing out massive SD, stalking players, and shows common courtesy by general harassment. Surely you cannot be that pig-headed?! [/i][/color]

[color=#008000][i]If you took this kind of behaviour and placed it in the real world, how is this different to that if say, Robert Mugabe? and would you still be saying "I don't understand why the Zimbabweans were crying?! Surely Mugabe cant be that bad? Raping and pillaging a country is part of life people! If you don't like it just go to the UK for a bit and then come back to Zimbabwe when he leaves on business trips"[/i][/color]

[color=#008000][i]Yes fighting is part of the game, but it is not acceptable when the odds are stacked so highly in one persons favour, and do not give me all that jazz about MD not being fair. There is unfairness in MD when it comes to fighting such as the Heads Contest, and then there is this. If I were a new mp5 who worked hard on achieving my stats not by grinding only to have them squashed by a troll like Eon, I would never want to play this game again, especially when the developers appear to be nonchalant and doing nothing about it and then blame the players for the lack of action.[/i][/color]

If you could stop Eon in the blink of an eye, that'd be imbalanced, wouldn't it?
Attacking people is a vital part of the game, should it be that simple to turn that ability off? Just because you wish to?

Ask yourself, would you like it a lot if people could stop you from playing just like that? 2 people don't like you, and suddenly you're in solitary confinement jail for the next 3 hours. Is that fair?

And hooray for negative rep, i really want some:

Shrinking population generally doesn't seem like a bad thing to me. In fact, I don't think that the people who quit because they don#t always get what they want were a big asset to MD in the first place.

PS: If we get more into the Eon-corner again, as it seems right now, i'll split again. That's not an invitation to go wild, but i don't see the need to stop a discussion just because it doesn't fit with the topic title

I've been following the actions of Eon and the complaints of many about them. I have to say that I personally find it all rather amusing, but I offer some remarks about the situation in hopes that we as a community can get something to happen in the realm of MD.

[quote name='Blood Prince']It seems Eon is becoming a problem. I'm not talking about skill damage (even-though its a part of it) but rather other bitchy things Eon has started doing. He has too much power to be contained by most of the MP5's kings/queen's are helpless because any action against him would obviously reverted by Mur. May be because Eon brings a lot of cash to the game which it needs. So it's time to fix Eon if the community think it is a problem.[/quote]
I have no wish to single Blood Prince out here; this is just the most convenient quote that came to mind. I have to note that Mur strongly denies Eon's monetary contributions as a factor in Eon's status and abilities, and that I find that denial plausible.

That said, I'm a little tired of/disappointed in seeing the community want to handle in-game situations through out-of-game discussions. That's called meta-gaming, and in my experience that's usually a negative word. Eon is to me a dark knight, perhaps one of the greatest villains MD has ever seen; he's not a problem, but a gift. I've only seen some tentative attempts at players coordinating to fight back against Eon, but I do think such attempts are the way the thing should go. As far as I know, Eon isn't harassing people out-of-game and he isn't breaking any rules. He seems invulnerable, but I argue that this appearance is encouraged by general perceptions that are not exactly in synch with reality. Got a problem with Eon? Don't like what he does? Well, are you gonna cry about it and wait for your white knight to save you, or will you step up to offer some heroics yourself? Mur is not wrong to point out that there are numerous in-game ways to deal with problematic characters, and that they have not been used to anything like their potential, or as nearly as I can tell, at all. What are we waiting for?

After all, this is a fantasy role-playing game. Play it. Please. Because stuff like this - conflict - is interesting.