Blackthorn

We were thinking that you were a professional artist. you have great lines and a real understanding of forms and design. If I might make a suggestion....try to draw as closely to the style of this game as possible...I'm not good enough...but I think you are. check out Wodin and Knator Comander...the creatures and some of the older Avatars...Put some real effort into winning...I'm betting on you.

Amorte how much art school did you take? you're very good. and I think everything posted now is for the contest. check with GlorDamar. BlackThorn

LOL. But I like tea. :lol:

one more.... BlackThorn

I really like it...More please. And I think it is definately worth finishing...Great pencil work... BlackThorn

I made a couple subtle changes...Which do you like best? I prefer This one, BlackThorn

For Sol...I hope you like it.. BlackThorn

For Calyx...I hope you like it. BlackThorn

"Looking around him, he discovers he has reached his goal....Excitedly reaching out to touch the flames," Why? He was there, in the top pyramid. Why would he reach out to touch the elemental flames? It makes no sense. When did we get Stephen King to write the adventure log? Well, we know that it is possible to reach the top pyramid. Alche is regretably dead because after working so hard to reach his goal, before he even looks around, he does something that he could have done when he first got there, (something most of us agreed was a very bad idea) he touches the elemental flame. Absolute nonsense, Alche deserved better. BlackThorn

OK 1 more version BlackThorn

Pick which version you like best and I will send that one to Glor for the shop... BlackThorn

2 More Blackthorn

KingBull...I'm afraid I did not do a very good job for you...the bull was quite hard and after starting and restarting several times I'm afraid this is the best I could come up with...you might try asking Glor or Morrel to give it a try...I'm sure they could do a better job. for some reason I found drawing a bull very difficult...sorry. I will continue to attempt it if you like. Let me know what you think. BlackThorn

Hey Glor, we would like to see your new drawings...how about posting them so we can all enjoy? Here are my newest...taken from suggestions by Envy, Abraxxis, Tarquinus, and Scout. I'm still working on the rest, so if you didn't see your request here you should soon. BlackThorn

Yes actually. I drew it from a picture of a friend. Thanks. Glor will be posting a new thread soon for everyone to make suggestions for what avatars you would like to see. I've been creating a lot for the ladies because of a thread I read a while ago, saying there weren't enough for the girlst to go around. feel free to pm me with any specific requests as well.

Here's 2 more. BlackThorn

Sweet. I've got to say Morrel, really nice! Congrats! Itried playing with the Brightness/contrast settings after I scaned mne in. I like what it did, what do you think?

Ok Glor, I tried to do what you said. let me know if these are any better. BlackThorn

Exactly why the current system needs adjusting. By creating sub groups (guilds) you are creating a much more dynamic and supportive starting environment, including a well mapped out career path and greater opportunities for reciprocating the support possitions. those support possitions would provide older more advanced players with "in game" fun to play possitions instead of the current live help out of game environment. Just today I chatted with a player who was ranting his frustration out in MB Sanc. He was upset primarily because he did not fully understand the game system and no one was helping him to adjust. There were plenty of older players there but none were willing to help a "newb" because (and I am only speculating) there was nothing in it for them. This needs to be addressed, ignoring the complaints of players, especially new players, will lead to more and more players dropping out. There are players who treat everyone with kindness and try to help anyone in distress, but that is not the norm. Instead of frustration and new players dropping out we could solve this in a simple and exciting way. please, when you read this thread, leave your opinion so we all can see how you feel. BlackThorn

well I was thinking along the lines of the adventure log containing the main story line/lines where Manu takes a particular player on a quest, but also having guild story lines that follow many of it's members through the guild quests. That could be accomplished right here in the forum. a password could be used to protect each guilds forum log and Manu could assign to each guild specific secrets about magic, mithos, history or places in the game that would be kept in that particular guilds archives. one of the best quests that each guild would have open is to try to infiltrate (within the game perameters) the other guilds to get at there archives and get out with secrets. In times of war, alliances would still hold sway as seperate entities, whos goals are to attract the most number of guilds to their cause and to defend attack the other side. a war council could then be chosen as the alliance leaders from among the guilds and the leader of the alliance. Each guild could have it's leaders chosen from among it's members and how they were chosen could be different in each guild. (creating traditions) really the only major programming changes would be to make a guild hall for each guild where all members could access but non members would find it very difficult, and possibly a color associated with each different guild, so that their members names would appear in that color. every thing else would be under the guild leaders (whether an individual or a council) direction. That way the players could take on more of the roles of creating the story and for every level and every player. It would also provide for the guilds deciding who goes on the adventure log quests by putting forth their choices from which Manu can then pick. (not to say he wouldn't also pick those that HE felt were deserving, but this way it would alow for the many players in the game community to help guide the story also). Guild adoption could be related to the principles each player makes when joining the game or could just be chosen by each player at some point in the game. non guild members could also exist with the choice of not joining a particular faction but remaining an independant or having transcended the guilds to become an RPC. I feel this would create more interesting social structures within the game community and provide a richer game experience for every player not just a chosen few. I also believe this will boost the number of active players and reduce the number of accounts that become static. I hope that Manu and/or the game development team would at least consider polling for eveyones input on this Idea and not dismiss it out of hand.

O! M! G! Morrel these are truly wonderful! Are you a professional artist? All I can say is WOW! I want one of your avatars.

I think it is very good, and look forward to seeing more.

I hope I am not too late.. also is there a specific format that we should put our pictures in? I used PDF I hope that works. I would like to hear back from you about what you think. pic_1.pdf pic2.pdf pic_3.pdf pic4.pdf pic_5.pdf pic6.pdf pic_7.pdf

mentioning the trap of imagination: it seems it is not <the> book of principles, but his personal interpretation alche seeks. not relying on what akasha thinks to know, he rather wants to discover the truth first hand -> a personal, subjective approach to understanding and handling the principles. so he is the first (or, counting akasha, the second) to discover a personal access to the forces that will change the means of war and peace forever, and others will have to follow his example to discover their personal truth about themself and the world (and herby the principles they choose) every personal truth is just a small aspect of the one real truth about principles, so the book will never be written, never be held by one person alone, but by all combined! Read Page 112 of the adventure log and you will see what I mean by trap. As for what Alche seeks that is for Alche to say. But I like where u r going with this. Can anyone really understand the principles, not as a tool or a means to an end, and not in a personal or subjective way, but in opening ones being to accept the objective forms of the principles? Very good question Suuljin. Can "the" Book of Principles be found. Deep. Very Deep. BlackThorn