Blackthorn

[quote name='adiomino' date='06 May 2010 - 07:30 PM' timestamp='1273199411' post='59510'] I have already contacted Blackthorn to draw my avvie (i'm sure no one forgot) but just for the sake of keeping communication up i would like to inquire about my custom beagle avatar. I have 13 silver atm how much would a beagle avatar (drawn with acceptable dimensions) be? Jw! Thank you blackthorn for replying to my first messages too Alright thank you Blackthorn! Sounds great then haha [/quote] OK thanks for your patience I hope you will like it... [IMG]http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/bkbard/custom%20avies/scan00043.jpg[/IMG] you will need to see brother Kamil

[quote name='adiomino' date='06 May 2010 - 07:30 PM' timestamp='1273199411' post='59510'] I have already contacted Blackthorn to draw my avvie (i'm sure no one forgot) but just for the sake of keeping communication up i would like to inquire about my custom beagle avatar. I have 13 silver atm how much would a beagle avatar (drawn with acceptable dimensions) be? Jw! Thank you blackthorn for replying to my first messages too [/quote] No I have not forgotten....some things are harder for me to draw that others...and I want to get it right. I appreciate your patience. BT.

[quote name='flamewarrior' date='04 May 2010 - 06:46 PM' timestamp='1273023968' post='59416'] I only have 5 SC, but if you could, would you possibly customize an avatar for me? preferably just a tiger laying down and sleeping would be grateful enough [/quote] not laying down asleep...but it was the best I could do... If you would like later I could add You walking next to your little friend here. enjoy! and please see brother Kamil for delivery... [IMG]http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/bkbard/custom%20avies/scan0011.gif[/IMG] Oh and look out....I think he is HUNGRY ok so I hope this will work better... [IMG]http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/bkbard/custom%20avies/scan0001.jpg[/IMG]

quote name='awiiya' date='03 May 2010 - 08:14 PM' timestamp='1272942896' post='59347'] How much is the cost for an item? Awi [/quote] Depends on the Item...if you would like something drawn...contact me BardOfLoreroot@yahoo.com or leave me a message here...

we draw pics of custom Items too.... [IMG]http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/bkbard/scan0011-1.gif[/IMG] If you can guess correctly what it is and who it belongs to...I will draw an Item for you too...FREE!!!! only one guess per player. The first correct answer wins. (If this belongs to you...please don't spoil it)

[quote name='Blackthorn' date='01 May 2010 - 12:29 PM' timestamp='1272742161' post='59093'] example of custom avatar.....Images not yet approved [IMG]http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/bkbard/scan0014-1-1.gif[/IMG]

[quote name='Esmerelda' date='01 May 2010 - 09:06 PM' timestamp='1272773179' post='59130'] PMed you a long time back Blackthorn. in the forum i presume [/quote] sorry....please forward to me...If I can assist you in anything, I would be most honored. [quote name='Kyphis the Bard' date='01 May 2010 - 03:06 PM' timestamp='1272751586' post='59103'] If that one hasn't been purchased yet, I would like to buy it. [/quote] please go to the Savelite shoppe and make an offer...it is one of the stock Items. [quote name='Manda' date='01 May 2010 - 02:19 PM' timestamp='1272748763' post='59100'] omg that its a avatar great BlackThron as all u draw O_O ^ _ ^ [/quote] thank you....there are more in the savelite shoppe...and more will be added all the time.

The savelites have opened a shop to offer stock and custom avatars for sale... we will also be trading aged Creatures and Items as we get them...so drop by often. Some Avatars are already in stock and open to bidding. check it out [IMG]http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/bkbard/scan00104-1-1.gif[/IMG]

The savelites have opened a shop to offer stock and custom avatars for sale...check it out. [IMG]http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/bkbard/scan0010-1-1-1.gif[/IMG]

for sale to highest bidder..... [IMG]http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/bkbard/Rayth2-1-2.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/bkbard/scan0010-1-1-1.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/bkbard/scan00072-1.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/bkbard/scan00104-1-1.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/bkbard/stock%20for%20shoppe/scan0010.gif[/IMG] [img]http://i1004.photobucket.com/albums/af170/bkbard/stock%20for%20shoppe/scan0012.gif[/img]

Yrth's so called Reasons are all contrived: Made up. GG has been planning to take over LR for some time now, this is just his excuse. as for Grido and MRD, they have chosen to steal their way into the Savelites by using King Bulls login and password without permission. Yrth trying to put his Real Life friend into power here in LR shows his true face, and has nothing to do with Roleplay, but just a grab for Power. One land just isn't enough for Yrth. As for this insult to MRD, well soory about the length but you broughtit up.... Chat log MRD: btw MRD: the way i know the alts is ailith told me MRD: i am saying that savels name ais being trashed Jon Blackthorn: and what the %#@#$ does she know? MRD: the log ins MRD: that king gave her MRD: when he made them Jon Blackthorn: bull $%$t Jon Blackthorn: this is so wrong I can't even begin MRD: how are they doing what savel created them for at all? Jon Blackthorn: stan i wrote savels credo MRD: thats fine. Jon Blackthorn: do you think I dont know exactly what is going on MRD: i know what i see and i see his name being tarnished. Jon Blackthorn: by you Jon Blackthorn: and this chicken $%*t post MRD: if savel or one of his followers came back and wanted to rebuiold it i would LOVE to see that happen Jon Blackthorn: it is being rebuilt Jon Blackthorn: the alts are there to help others train Jon Blackthorn: which is the exact purpose of the Savelites Jon Blackthorn: mine are there too MRD: why were all of savels followers kicked? Jon Blackthorn: you want to attack me as well Jon Blackthorn: because we needed to bring stability back to the alliance Jon Blackthorn: Raven did it MRD: i posted facts. you just told me that a bunch of them are not king bulls alts. that is fine. who do i believe? Jon Blackthorn: not Kingbull MRD: i am going by what i am told MRD: and what i see MRD: that is all Jon Blackthorn: you are being irresponsible MRD: to see savels alliance go to shit and be made a laughing stock? i liked savel very much and hate seeing this happen Jon Blackthorn: and propgating more negativity against a fellow player Jon Blackthorn: you just want to attack King Bull MRD: i told cryxus the same thing. Jon Blackthorn: it is not about Jon Blackthorn: savel MRD: i told cryx he did not belong the leader MRD: happy now? MRD: cryxus is one of my favorite players Jon Blackthorn: cryx was never a concern MRD: SAVEL or ONE of his followers belongs leader MRD: king bull HATED savel Jon Blackthorn: says a Golemus player MRD: i was with savel for a LONG time MRD: he taught me a LOT Jon Blackthorn: so was I Jon Blackthorn: i was there when WE created this alliance MRD: then why let it go to hell? Jon Blackthorn: i am not MRD: instead of players thinking he fleft uncontrollably, they think he left because he gave up MRD: which is not the case MRD: and i have stated that to everyone who asked Jon Blackthorn: we left it alone too long because we wanted him to come back Jon Blackthorn: then it fell into chaos Jon Blackthorn: so we chose to offer it to KB MRD: it fell into chaos when king bull got it Jon Blackthorn: you dont know what you are talking about MRD: if it fell into chaos before that it was not public Jon Blackthorn: yes it was Jon Blackthorn: that is why Cryx decided to make his little play for it Jon Blackthorn: and dont think I dont remember you comeing to me to help you throw KB out MRD: i did Jon Blackthorn: We ASKED HIM MRD: and thats fine Jon Blackthorn: he did not take it MRD: i stepped out when you stated that Jon Blackthorn: we gave it to him Jon Blackthorn: what you wrote is truely offensive to me Jon Blackthorn: as offensive to me as if someone attacked you in the forums Jon Blackthorn: or tried to vote the MRs closed MRD: they can vote us closed Jon Blackthorn: it is just plain wrong MRD: see MRD: thats where i dont care MRD: we were a alliance BEFORE the alliances MRD: and were a alliance before we got it and always will be tagor no tag Jon Blackthorn: you forget who you are speaking to Jon Blackthorn: i know you better than that MRD: jon Jon Blackthorn: you care MRD: my honest belief is that savel name and legend is being trashed MRD: honest to god MRD: and not over KB MRD: that was just the last straw MRD: his actions have made me feel that way Jon Blackthorn: your belief does not give you the right to start a post like that MRD: he tried to overtake too many alliances MRD: why not? Jon Blackthorn: again you are misinformed MRD: then i am Jon Blackthorn: why not? MRD: but when i log into all the alts, and remove them, i will laugh MRD: i have their passwords already Jon Blackthorn: have you ever heard of lible or slander MRD: king bulls alts MRD: king bulls name is now not mentioned Jon Blackthorn: then you will spend a long time in jail MRD: send me to jail then Jon Blackthorn: and probably lose your RPC status MRD: ok then MRD: ill gladly give it up for my beliefs Jon Blackthorn: and if I know Mur at all he will probably close your alliance MRD: thats fine MRD: he can do as he wishes MRD: and i will gladly accept it MRD: it is his game after all MRD: but i have not stated anything in game, all in forums, as a discussion MRD: if he chooses to do so, then so be it MRD: i made a post to discuss. im sorry i have a opinion that differs others or is wrong MRD: before you mentions slander or ban, i removed king bull and the alts part MRD: now that i have been correctly informed Jon Blackthorn: i have the original already saved MRD: ok MRD: thats fine MRD: whoopie do i said king bull and his alts were in there MRD: and that only 2 original savels were still there MRD: thats what i took out Jon Blackthorn: you need to appologise and have the post erased MRD: apologise for what? Jon Blackthorn: well you offended me, which is not easy to do Jon Blackthorn: you attacked a player and wrote and encouraged others to write defamitory remarks that have no basis in truth MRD: i see absoltely no post stating anything other thenonce savel left they were not the same Jon Blackthorn: and by suggesting that you have the right to decide by vote the closure of an alliance of a land not your own, you attacked us. MRD: nobody stated a word about king bull or any other leader Jon Blackthorn: Savelfuser would be absolutely disgusted MRD: he would be MRD: his alliance was absolutely great MRD: probably the best group of followers Jon Blackthorn: oh really? MRD: yup Jon Blackthorn: tell me about it MRD: and without him they went to nothing. a lot went inactive, not sure reasons but did. MRD: if i lose rpc i lose rpc MRD: if i get jailed i get jail Jon Blackthorn: i dont want that MRD: i cant change what i wrote MRD: and honestly, if i changed it it wouldnt be for the right reasons Jon Blackthorn: no but you can appologise MRD: i hnestly dont feel they are the same without savel Jon Blackthorn: nor do I MRD: i am entitled to my opinion MRDr: and i have removed king bull and any of that MRD: nobody has one word of king bull in their posts MRD: all is directly stated at savel and hhim leaving Jon Blackthorn: you have still attacked an alliance of lore root Jon Blackthorn: yes they do MRD: and the REASON i put the if he returns vote is because i know he has internet issues Jon Blackthorn: it is more than that MRD: but i have my opinion and it stands MRD: jail me MRD: hate me MRD: ban me MRD: i will stand my grounds Jon Blackthorn: and I pray he is well considering the earthquake MRD: me too MRD: he was a good friend and missed dearly MRD: and i know damn well MRD: if i were to leave MRD: i want my alliance gone MRD: already made that rule Jon Blackthorn: that is you not Savel MRD: i have my opinions. plain and simple Jon Blackthorn: and you forget I ahd a great deal to do with starting this alliance too MRD: then why did you let it become what it is? Jon Blackthorn: we wanted Savel to come back MRD: i have mails from his followers MRD: over 20 of them, ill have to find them for you MRD: all begging to join me because savel ABANDONED them Jon Blackthorn: and did not make any changes until we had to MRD: they felt so hurt MRD: i denied most entrance MRD: but some did move MRD: and that was beggining january timeframe MRD: i stood back for a long time Jon Blackthorn: that is the kind of rumor and babble that ticks me off MRD: rumour? MRD: i have 4 of his men with me Jon Blackthorn: it still stands that Golemus has attacked Loreroot MRD: no Jon Blackthorn: yes MRD: MR's have attacked LR Jon Blackthorn: not where I sit MRD: i am not treatied with any others MRD: we are seperate in all forms MRD: this is also WHY i did not treeaty with them MRD: or anyone else MRD: i do not speak for GG in any way MRD: i speak on my behalf MRD: and my behalf only MRD: you drag them into this its worse then what i said. you are accusing GG of something they did not do. MRD: GG has nothing to do with us nor us with them MRD: and i have made that point many many times in the past Jon Blackthorn: fine. Jon Blackthorn: i cant believe you think that starting a vote to close anothers alliance is somehow ok MRD: whats its name? Jon Blackthorn: ? MRD: Savelties Church MRD: correct? Jon Blackthorn: so MRD: Where is Savel? and who has been kept as his folllowers? MRD: how is his name being praised? MRD: how is his religion being kept alicve? Jon Blackthorn: you dont even know what his Religion is Jon Blackthorn: you dont know the first thing about the Savelites MRD: that is where you are wrong MRD: OR MRD: King Bull misinformed me MRD: i was very civil with KB MRD: and we discussed it much MRD: so either i dont know because he told me wrong, or i do know MRD: he told me where he wanted to form it MRD: and asked me to ally and lend a hand Jon Blackthorn: stan, Iwrote the savelite alliance statement MRD: thats fine MRD: then the LEADER is wrong MRD: and so am i Jon Blackthorn: I helped create the savelite religion MRD: then you should be leader... MRD: and not have someone misinforming everyone as leader Jon Blackthorn: that is not how Loreroot works Jon Blackthorn: what exactly did he misinform you about Jon Blackthorn: exactly MRD: King Bull as leader represents Savelties, like it or not MRD: he told me training MRD: atwasps totem Jon Blackthorn: i do like it MRD: ok Jon Blackthorn: not anymore MRD: he has stated he will be there trying to form it Jon Blackthorn: it is in stag crossing MRD: well thats whta HE told me MRD: he has yet to be seen anywhere in loreroot MRD: ive checked often to help Jon Blackthorn: not true Jon Blackthorn: i spoke to him tonight at stag croosing MRD: GGG was going to help start it MRD: tonight Jon Blackthorn: yes MRD: yes MRD: ok MRD: so already he has misinformed MRD: do you see MY point in this matter? Jon Blackthorn: no MRD: i am going on facts i am told Jon Blackthorn: of what did he misinform MRD: am i supposed to not trust anyone? MRD: where it was MRD: when it was Jon Blackthorn: you are going on what others told you MRD: and his participation Jon Blackthorn: not facts MRD: i am sorry i trust others word MRD: ailith was his wife with access to all his info MRD: i have no reason to not trust her word Jon Blackthorn: and she now lothes him Jon Blackthorn: no reason Jon Blackthorn: have you ever been around people after a divorce Jon Blackthorn: ? MRD: yup MRD: many times Jon Blackthorn: no reason Jon Blackthorn: come on MRD: im basically divorced MRD: talk to her every day Jon Blackthorn: Ailith is not who you think she is MRD: talk to my ex of 5 years 3 times a week MRD: then i am misinformed MRD: i am sorry MRD: but i still stand on my opinion without savel the alliance is not the same Jon Blackthorn: there now was that so hard MRD: change the name, make it loreroot church Jon Blackthorn: it is not the same MRD: thats a easy thing Stan Parker: savel made the savelties what it was Jon Blackthorn: that does not mean it should close MRD: then change the name or something Jon Blackthorn: we do not wish to MRD: do SOMETHIGN with it, as it is NOW, and has been for 4 months, it is not right MRD: christmas... since december it has been going wildly Jon Blackthorn: Loreroot matters are for Loreroot MRD: i am a player Jon Blackthorn: yes MRD: and forums are for discussions Jon Blackthorn: and my friend Jon Blackthorn: forums are for discussions but not to vote an alliance closed MRD: after you threatening to BAN me for a opinion, i do not consider us anything. that was worse then anything i ever stated about king bull or anyone. MRD: if it was a huge issue, the forum MODS would have removed it when they EDITED it MRD: i actually sent a coipy to a forum mod first Jon Blackthorn: which one MRD: i wont say or you might go after them too MRD: ill take the heat Jon Blackthorn: i will anyway MRD: i wont let others for any reason MRD: i will gladly leave the game forever and stand by my opinion, savel is gone and his name is being tarnished. Jon Blackthorn: you have the right to your opinion Jon Blackthorn: that is not the issue MRD: my men have been informed if i do get banned to close my alliance, and GGG Jon Blackthorn: what is GGG? MRD: i will leave a legend and not let my opinion be changed MRD: MR's Training Grounds MRD: We changed the name to GGG to prove it is not for MR's but for everyone Jon Blackthorn: i did not threaten to ban you MRD: yes you did MRD: MRNobody: Jon BlackThorn: then you will spend a long time in jail MRNobody: send me to jail then Jon BlackThorn: and probably lose your RPC status MRD: jail = ban MRD: i was told that eariler by a LHO Jon Blackthorn: I pointed out what your actions could lead to Jon Blackthorn: nothing more MRD: and a RPC MRD: jail = ban Jon Blackthorn: and if you care to look back I said I did not want that to happen MRD: and i prepare to tell mur i wont change my mindf and ban me if he wishes MRD: i amde the post MRD: as a discussion MRD: i dont have any powers to remove svelties MRD: only mur does MRD: and most who actually replied to the post, YIM's me asking if savel quit or lost internet or something MRD: i told them all he lost internet MRD: and that helped a lot of players decide Jon Blackthorn: there is more to it than that MRD: most actually said, if he quit, they would say leave the alliance as it is MRD: but since he cant log in because of net, it should be closed upon his return MRD: i personally understand you helped create it,m but unfortunatley it fdoes not have your name being tarnished, it is savels MRD: and unfortunately i mean you are active so it would not be the way it is MRD: not that i wish your name to be tarnished Jon Blackthorn: it is only your opinion that it is being tarnished Jon Blackthorn: and exactly how? MRD: based on what it was and what it is now Jon Blackthorn: what was it/ MRD: based on the fact that most players actually think savel quit and left his men hanging MRD: it was a large thriving alliance, where savel was the leader and protector of all his men MRD: protected them to the death Jon Blackthorn: really Jon Blackthorn: I have been in the alliance since day one Jon Blackthorn: and I am still there Jon Blackthorn: I know what Savel did MRD: yup MRD: i knwo you were MRD: and YOU should be leader Jon Blackthorn: and I know exactly what has happened there all along Jon Blackthorn: i do not wish to be leader MRD: i said many many times, since noone took over, that a savel follower should be leader and keep his legend alive MRD: preach about savel MRD: teach others about who he was and what his wishes were MRD: tell the stories of the great white ghost Jon Blackthorn: the quest will teach that Jon Blackthorn: and we are writing a codex MRD: king bull has been leader for about a month now, and nothing. Jon Blackthorn: not true Jon Blackthorn: you dont know what he is doing Jon Blackthorn: I do MRD: then when he spoke to me, about helping, he should have informed me better MRD: he involved me. MRD: he approached me MRD: and he misinformed me then Jon Blackthorn: he does not speak well for himself MRD: actually, he still goes on and on about his own alliance Jon Blackthorn: but his heart is good MRD: im sure his heart is good MRD: and that is fine Jon Blackthorn: he has been wrongly judged MRD: jon MRD: you know this MRD: actions speak louder then words MRD: and his actions got him his reputation MRD: but i dont care if it was ME leading them Jon Blackthorn: and he will turn over the alliance to another when it is stable and the council will allow him to step down MRD: no matter who it is MRD: i would feel the same way with how the alliance is now MRD: it could be anyone as leader. Jon Blackthorn: he is easily misunderstood Jon Blackthorn: and his temper has not helped his cause MRD: im serious too, if it were a MR id still feel the same MRD: this has NOTHING to do with king bull MRD: i did tell cryxus he was wrong as leader MRD: and i DID tell him turn it over to a actual Savel follower Jon Blackthorn: If I were the leader you would have posted a vote to close the alliance? MRD: me and cryx did not speak for 2 weeks over it MRD: no MRD: you are a folower of savel MRD: and you would have done more to keep his name and legend alicve Jon Blackthorn: I am a friend of Savel MRD: but Jon Blackthorn: and I am your friend MRD: if you let it go on as it is now, i would feel the same about you Jon Blackthorn: And I am KBs friend MRD: i dont blame you for being KB's friend MRD: at all MRD: i LOVE his idea for his own alliance MRD: i supported it greatly Jon Blackthorn: i helped with that too MRD: i told his own followers to stand by his side throught thick and thin MRD: you moved him backwards by asking him to lead savelties MRD: a LOT MRD: he belonged either in encro or on his own MRD: necro* MRD: and you AGREED on that too Jon Blackthorn: yes MRD: when i first asked to get him out of savelties MRD: king bull is a VERY good player Jon Blackthorn: but he is a memebr of Loreroot High council MRD: and well respected by many, hated by many Jon Blackthorn: has been all along MRD: but we all have our enemies MRD: i am not after KB on this MRD: i am after savels legend MRD: and what really sparked me... MRD: what really got me thinking MRD: was mur saying about legends in his post about game resets MRD: savels legend has died immensely over this MRD: my only goal with this is to save what legend he has left Jon Blackthorn: I disagree MRD: either by having one of his followers speak his tales Jon Blackthorn: but i understand your pint of view MRD: and do as savel wanted Jon Blackthorn: but you do not know what is going on MRD: i spoke to savel for HOURS upon hours over his ides and goals MRD: and have not seen any of it being carried on MRD: yes a lot of blame goes to his followers Jon Blackthorn: you have not seen MRD: but most of them feel he abandoinded them, not that he has net issues Jon Blackthorn: does not mean they are not being done MRD: 4 months tho? MRD: his legend could have nbeen kept alive, him here or not MRD: stories of him Jon Blackthorn: They knew what happened if they cared to read the messages in alliance chat MRD: have meetings telling his tales MRD: something Jon Blackthorn: or log in to Loreroot private chat MRD: and also MRD: things done behind the scenes, doesnt help savel any MRD: public things do MRD: my training grounds have been going since july MRD: only in january when i made it a public known thing did it take off Jon Blackthorn: MRD when was the last time you were in LR? MRD: today MRD: few hours ago MRD: sat there yesterday for about 9 hours Jon Blackthorn: and before that MRD: go there every morning about 7 am my time Jon Blackthorn: because I dont think I have ever seen you there MRD: have some waffles Jon Blackthorn: and I am there almost every day MRD: sage makes some awesome ones Jon Blackthorn: yeah well that is the problem then MRD: btw Jon Blackthorn: you are speaking to the wrong people MRD: but i go there MRD: and am civil MRD: i sit at the oak fort all the time MRD: pick on idling amoran and logan MRD: go to wasps a few times a day Jon Blackthorn: that is what made me so mad about this MRD: sit and remembermy past Jon Blackthorn: it is based on misinformation MRD: that was my office for many months MRD: i ahve much love for loreroot MRD: and for savel Jon Blackthorn: and that has got to stop MRD: mesavel was my leader and mentor in GG alliance when wodin formed it MRD: i was one of original 10 in it MRD: was MP4 MRD: and wodin took me in Jon Blackthorn: i know MRD: and savel trained me Jon Blackthorn: i know MRD: i care for his legend deeply Jon Blackthorn: i know me too MRD: i would absolutely LOVE for him to come back and fix his alliance Jon Blackthorn: closing his alliance will only say he failed MRD: or someone who REALLY knew savel to lead it and represent savel Jon Blackthorn: and that is not what I want MRD: then have someone who knew savel, really knew him, represent him MRD: i know loreroot is different Jon Blackthorn: we are MRD: but to any player, the leader represents the allince MRD: even ask mur Jon Blackthorn: dont care about that MRD: mur told me over and over, as leader, i repres4ent all my men, MRD: you dont care Jon Blackthorn: it always comes back to King bull MRD: but the other players do care Jon Blackthorn: too bad Jon Blackthorn: they are not Loreroot MRD: king bull did not know savel nor follow him Jon Blackthorn: that is not important MRD: nor is he standing at dojo or willows, when he sits there forever, telling any stories MRD: he says nothing about savel Jon Blackthorn: he respects the savelites and is doing what the council asked him to do MRD: he sits there at dojo for hours MRD: he could tell stories MRD: explain who savel was Jon Blackthorn: that is not his way MRD: anything Jon Blackthorn: that is mine MRD: then have him do it MRD: or do it on bramble Jon Blackthorn: and as I said we are writing them down MRD: you know them by heart MRD: that makes you a ture savel follower MRD: and my feelings are someone like yourself should represent savelties church MRD: king bull shouldnt read from a piece of paper MRD: he should speak from his heart MRD: as goes ANY leader of the savelties Jon Blackthorn: not everyone can do that Jon Blackthorn: people have different talents MRD: then he is not a leader... Jon Blackthorn: he is leader MRD: leaders have to learn to do public speaking Jon Blackthorn: like Bush Jon Blackthorn: lol MRD: LOL MRD: point proven MRD: Jon Blackthorn: he is doing what I asked him to do Jon Blackthorn: if you have fault with him you can blame me MRD: im sorry then MRD: but i stil feel something needs to be done MRD: and i folow my feelings MRD: shn me if you will MRD: ban me MRD: whatever Jon Blackthorn: people are tearing the realm apart as fast as I and raven and tarq can build it MRD: yup MRD: i agree Jon Blackthorn: they speak about things they know nothing about MRD: i am sorry i was badly informed MRD: and as such i removed the post about alts MRD: as soon as YOU said she was wrong Jon Blackthorn: I have been putting out too many fires MRD: and i am going on your word Jon Blackthorn: if you want to know what is going on in LR Jon Blackthorn: ask me or Raven or Tarq MRD: raven keeps me pretty informed MRD: daily Jon Blackthorn: apart from us Jon Blackthorn: i dont think anyone bothers to actully become informed before they speak MRD: i tried to my abilities MRD: i speak to raven often MRD: tarq on occasion MRD: you on occasion lately MRD: and as i said king approached me MRD: told me he was starting a training area in LR by wasps MRD: and asked for help MRD: but MRD: also MRD: ive been told for 5 months now LR wanted to start a training area... and nothing yet MRD: kragel says it MRD: amoran says t MRD: king bull says it MRD: raven says it MRD: and nothing MRD: at all Jon Blackthorn: it is not my function Jon Blackthorn: only to come up with the ideas Jon Blackthorn: not put them into practice MRD: and if they are not carried out what good are they? Jon Blackthorn: but that is what he is now doing MRD: they are words on paper Jon Blackthorn: though he is having a tough time of it MRD: as i said, actions speak louder then words MRD: if savels comes back like it was or better, i will completely ask for a post removal MRD: and IF this post gets things going and sparks a interest, i will never ever regret it Jon Blackthorn: you called for a vote to remove one of Loreroots alliances Jon Blackthorn: you are not Loreroot Jon Blackthorn: it is not your place Jon Blackthorn: and you did so on the words of people who do not know the first thing about what is going on Jon Blackthorn: come on stan Jon Blackthorn: that is in no way right Stan Parker: then im a $%^**e jon Jon Blackthorn: no MRD: no i am Jon Blackthorn: you mis stepped MRD: im being a@$$*^#le MRD: no Jon Blackthorn: and I have asked you every way I can to undo it MRD: i ave my opinion MRD: NOPBODY can delete savelties but mur Jon Blackthorn: and that is fine MRD: i have been told time and time again.. MRD: if i have a issue and want to discuss it, post in forums MRD: im always pointed at forums MRD: ALWAYS Jon Blackthorn: a discussion is not a vote to close someone else’s alliance Jon Blackthorn: not the same MRD: i put voting for other reasons MRD: it allows players to speak their opinion without speaking MRD: that was my goal of that Jon Blackthorn: as I said you misstepped MRD: all i know is it is funny i can log into caru, whitereaper (king bulls best friend IRL) and princedarkmagic MRD: but if you say those arew not his alts, i believe you MRD: must be coincidence Jon Blackthorn: no i did not say they were not hs alts Jon Blackthorn: I said they were there for the pupose of training others MRD: then me stating that it was him, his alts, you and 2 other loyal savel followers should not have been bad MRD: it is a honest fact MRD: princ Rhaegar and tank are loyal men Jon Blackthorn: no it was a backhanded attack Jon Blackthorn: and a low thing to do MRD: all the rest were kicked Jon Blackthorn: by Cryxus and Raven MRD: so the real savelties were basically kicked MRD: the ones who stayed and stuck it out Jon Blackthorn: that depends on who you are calling the real savelites MRD: the ones who followed him Jon Blackthorn: no MRD: who worshiped him MRD: the ones savel granted access Jon Blackthorn: that is not the point of his alliance Jon Blackthorn: never was MRD: he was the healer. MRD: his role MRD: and what HE told me MRD: his alliance was formed for players who worshiped him and wanted to show their allegance MRD: his church was being formed as a sanctuary MRD: for players to rest and heal themselves Jon Blackthorn: worshiped in the MP6 sense yes MRD: savel told me this himself MRD: im going on his word MRD: and that his alliance was part of his role as the healer Jon Blackthorn: then he did not tell you very much Jon Blackthorn: there is alot more to it than that MRD: that fine Jon Blackthorn: but as for who was kicked Jon Blackthorn: they were not even original memebrs Jon Blackthorn: but players accepted in after Savel was already gone MRD: then by all means, i agree with being kicked MRD: but i asked Jon Blackthorn: and those who were there but inactive MRD: many people MRD: and got no answers MRD: all i know is what i have SEEN Jon Blackthorn: you could have asked Jon Blackthorn: i would have told you Jon Blackthorn: everyone is so quick to jump to conclusions MRD: but in my eyes, it will never be the same without savel Jon Blackthorn: nor with me Jon Blackthorn: i almost quit when he and nelya left MRD: LOL MRD: nelyas name has been TRASHED since raven got that vote thing going MRD: TRASHED Jon Blackthorn: no MRD: everyone says she sucked and abandoned LR Jon Blackthorn: Mur is just being Mur MRD: but thats because nobody ever explained Jon Blackthorn: Raven never demanded anything MRD: i know why she left MRD: i know all too well MRD: same with savel Jon Blackthorn: so do I MRD: but that doesnt mean her name is not trashed now because of one decision Jon Blackthorn: i speak to nelya all of the time MRD: the decision of someone taking her place Jon Blackthorn: no one is taking her place MRD: thats not how it looks to the public Jon Blackthorn: she left the leadership to Raven MRD: thats not how it LOOKS Jon Blackthorn: the public does not know MRD: and thats a PROBLEM Jon Blackthorn: not really Jon Blackthorn: Raven is one of the most respected players in the game MRD: i know Jon Blackthorn: we all stand behind him MRD: but is it fair nelya's legend is ding to improve ravens? MRD: i supported raven with a 3 page PM to mur MRD: but i also told mur in that pm Jon Blackthorn: thaank you for that MRD: i only agree with raven taking the king title IF nelya has something to remember her by MRD: a AL log MRD: a statue or sign MRD: something Jon Blackthorn: we have her Jon Blackthorn: she still comes to the game MRD: Nelya earned it more then raven, and LR is what it is due to her Jon Blackthorn: i see her all the time MRD: and her legend should be represented if raven takes the official and public leadership Jon Blackthorn: she will stay in the role of high priestess to Root MRD: i agree 150% with him being the official king or whatever Jon Blackthorn: that is what she wanted Jon Blackthorn: Archon MRD: but she is now known as the leader, raven there or not Jon Blackthorn: my word MRD: if he gets the official title, publically known, her legend WILL die, if she keeps her role or not Jon Blackthorn: all know raven leads MRD: there needs to be something permenent to remember her and her deeds by Jon Blackthorn: tarq and KB have sworn fealty Jon Blackthorn: she is still ingame Jon Blackthorn: just not RPC anymore MRD: savel is still in game Jon Blackthorn: she just hangs with us now MRD: he was active today as a matter of fact MRD: but his legend is dying... Jon Blackthorn: next time you see him tell him to ym me MRD: ok Jon Blackthorn: i need to speak with him Jon Blackthorn: i have been trying for months MRD: PM him MRD: he cant YIM Jon Blackthorn: God I hope he is allright MRD: he goes to a cafe and logs in on their computer MRD: and i am serious. my opinion stands. MRD: i PM'd mur MRD: asked to be removed from RPC MRD: so i will then be a normal player MRD: with a normal opinion MRD: i also have told MRWander to close my alliance today MRD: he has started the process already MRD: so GG wont be dragged into this MRD: only me MRD: GGG is being closed once everyone times out MRD MR's are told to not log in MRD i am standing my ground jon MRD: my opinion matters to me Jon Blackthorn: you dont have to do all that MRD i am Jon Blackthorn: your choice MRD: you tried dragging GG into this, others might as well Jon Blackthorn: but you are doing it on your own MRD i dont want other RPC's to be represented in this Jon Blackthorn: instead of simply appologising MRD i wont apologise MRD im not sorry Jon Blackthorn: you should be MRD it would be a untruthful and meaningless apology just to shut you up Jon Blackthorn: and I am sorry you do not see that MRD and i wont do it MRD i am sorry you dont respect my opinion. thats all im sorry for Jon Blackthorn: your choice Jon Blackthorn: not mine Jon Blackthorn: i thought you and GG were one alliance Jon Blackthorn: my mistake MRD never have been Jon Blackthorn: my mistake MRD and i told Raven, i told nelya, i told it in forums MRD in game MRD over and over and over MRD: AND OVER MRD for 9 months now MRD ive told everyone MRD raven i have told a dozen times Jon Blackthorn: things change Jon Blackthorn: I thought they had MRD that has never changed MRD: and in yrths newest post MRD: about the treaties MRD: i stated we are not united Jon Blackthorn: I made a mistake. Iam sorry Jon Blackthorn: I am also sorry you have chosen this path Jon Blackthorn: it is not what i wanted Jon Blackthorn: far from it Jon Blackthorn: I wish you would reconsider MRD i am a man of integrity. i respect myself and my opinions Jon Blackthorn: as do i MRD then you undertsand my stance Jon Blackthorn: but not the way you did this Jon Blackthorn: not like this MRD i spoke to akasha MRD not that it matters now MRD: but she was supposed to look at it and make her own decision MRD: i told her if SHE felt is was slander, and showed her the alts part, and that it was wrong, to remove it completely Jon Blackthorn: so her opinion counts but not anyone elses? MRD: she is a mod MRD: cant force her to close it You want to find fault with me ,go ahead, but I also stand behind my opinion. And if that is not damming enough, I have more. again sorry.... Chat Log Jon Blackthorn: hey just wanted to let you know I am leaving the game MRD: dude MRD: yrth has a bug up his ass over raven not u MRD: i dropped the whole thing with you and me MRD: this isnt about you at all MRD: this is because the HC and LR have issues to work out, mainly with communication MRD: we got pissed because raven told us he makes all the decisions and HC is only there for him to talk to, not to help him decide anything MRD: yrth just dropped this war on my plate, didnt say a word to me about it MRD: not until he already posted MRD: i feel like shit about it all too but its my job to fight for GG Jon Blackthorn: and savelites MRD: yup MRD: we took them MRD: we were 5 minutes too late getting to CoE and tarq kicked his men Jon Blackthorn: by cheating with KBs alts MRD: LR is next MRD: NO NO NO Jon Blackthorn: that is why I am leaving MRD: they are KB ANDDDDDD ailiths alts MRD made together Jon Blackthorn: don't really care about the war MRD: as children MRD she has just as much right to them as he does Jon Blackthorn: that is why she left your alliance MRD: yup MRD she left on her own Jon Blackthorn: because even she knew it was wrong Jon Blackthorn: after what you felt when dst took your alliance Jon Blackthorn: I am really shocked by this MRD lol Jon Blackthorn: I thought I could trust you MRD this is war Jon Blackthorn: fine then you win Jon Blackthorn: I quit MRD i have told EVERYONE outside of game, we are friends no game can change that MRD what happens in game is rutheless MRD that is part of war MRD: out of game id really like to remain friends MRD: btw MRD: honestly., MRD: plans were set to take savies without MR's MRD: MB was gonna do it and fgrido made the plans MRD: just so you know MRD GRIDO talked to ailith about it and GRIDO had MB farm honor MRD: so even IF i said no, it would have been done anyway MRD: and you know what, i dont feel bad MRD: you threatened war first. Jon Blackthorn: that is not true MRD its ok for YOU to say it, but we actually do it and we are the bad ones MRD: great MRD: i feel bad MRD but its a game Jon Blackthorn: I did not threaten war first MRD: yes you did MRD: i have the convo jon Jon Blackthorn: and I have given out the log of the ym MRD you threatened not only on MR's, but GG as well Jon Blackthorn: so everyone knows what was said MRD: whats funny... MRD im not in this war MRD: at all MRD: i just got to hawaii MRD i dont have time to play this week LOL MRD what is even BETTER MRD: mur came to me asking wtf was going on MRD: i told him you and i had a argument and it had passed MRD: then yrth called this war bs Jon Blackthorn: i already know Mur is involved and so is Akasha MRD: there is not a damn thing i can do about this war MRD: NOTHING MRD: yrth called on his own Jon Blackthorn: i don't really care about the war Jon Blackthorn: it is a waste of time MRD: and if you think for one second the savies are gone think again Jon Blackthorn: but when you used KBs alts to take controll of the savels MRD: AILITHS ALTS Jon Blackthorn: that is when you betrayed me MRD just as much as his Jon Blackthorn: they are not her alts MRD: they share them MRD: as children MRD: that is what we were told MRD so blame ailith not us Jon Blackthorn: she only knew the loggin info because they were together MRD: she told us they were shared acounts as their children Jon Blackthorn: and she gave you permission? MRD: so how are we supposed to know different? MRD: she did it herself Jon Blackthorn: i told you the other night MRD: she logged in and gave the invite MRD you know what jon, i wanted to let all this shit go. log in play my role and whatever i WONT let you make me feel like shit MRD: im gettin married in a few hours MRD: f this game Jon Blackthorn: we have been trying to build somethingin LR MRD: f you MRD: f loreroot MRD: f the Mr Jon Blackthorn: now it is useless MRD LR and the Hc is useless Jon Blackthorn: the quest is off MRD: all of MD is useless Jon Blackthorn: and I am leaving the game MRD: your useless im useless MRD: everyone is useless Jon Blackthorn: congrats on your wedding Jon Blackthorn: and farewell MRD: again, out of game you want to talk and be M8's fine by me MRD i have a role and a job MRD: plain and simple MRD: but im off MRD: time for bed long day tomorrow and yes I am leaving the game. I have asked repeatedly to speak to Mur, but since he will not respond to me...I might as well say it here. This constant struggle for power in the game has taken all the fun out of it for me. We were trying to build something different in LR, but between the constant bickering between its members and players always trying to power grab it has been too much to deal with. that was why the need for an Archon / leader / whatever.... to silence all the bickering. Yrth and Grido and MRD and MB and Burns, from the sound of it, just want another land to control. They don't like the fact that unlike them we chose a different path in the game. but apparently there is no room in this game for Artists and free thinkers. So I bid you all Farewell. Just call me the first casuallty of your war Yrth.

We do not support those who seek power. Those who seek power over others need not come to Loreroot, for here you will not find it. What is most unique about Loreroot is that we support one another and encourage one another. I am the second oldest active member of the High Council. Raven is the first. We were there when Nelya laid its foundations. It was not then, nor has it ever been a body to rule others, but rather a Body to serve others. Raven does not seek the title of "Archon" (which means leader) for himself; he seeks it for Loreroot. He did so at my urging. We have always had a single leader in Loreroot. It was only recently that we felt the need to have an official title bestowed so that there is no more confusion as to who our leader is. We recognize that it is necessary to consolidate authority in a central figure to allow for quick and decisive action primarily for the defense and preservation of the Loreroot Alliances and our people. Nelya, with the support of the majority of the high council, left Loreroot Alliance in Ravens hands as a contingency. It was our wish that, should the need arise, Raven would take control of Loreroot and the council to preserve our traditions. Even after Nelya went missing (first due to changes in her employment and then later because of her health), it was more than two months before Raven finally took official control of Loreroot alliance. We all Love Nelya and she is sorely missed. He did not seek power for himself but rather to serve as he was asked. That is what the high council has always been about; service to Loreroot and all of MD. You might ask any of its members how they came to be on the high council. The circumstances are different, but the answer is always the same. They are those who work to make Loreroot (and all of MD) a better place by their actions and service to others. Not one sought power, for that is not what the council is about. Rather each sought to help their fellow players. The high council has no authority in Loreroot. It never had. What it does have is the respect of the people and the Leader of Loreroot. Raven has always sought to consult at least one member of HIS council before making any decision. As I stated before, this is not a vote as to whether Raven should be Archon, but rather a vote to recognize that he already is Archon. Tarquines and Savel were made aware that this is how Loreroot worked. Both were eager to give their fealty to Nelya and become members of the High council. Tarquines still gives fealty to Loreroot Alliance and Raven as Archon of Loreroot. King Bull was sought by the council to take control of the Savelites in the absence of our dear friend Savel. He was already a member of the High council from when he was an honored member of Loreroot Alliance. He also, as the leader of the Savelites, offers his fealty to Loreroot Alliance and to Raven as Archon. (sorry to speak for you my brothers, but it was necessary to silence the accusations against our Archon). These things are not secret, but we do not often speak of them. I admire Raven even more for not explaining the inner workings of our land to those who have never before sought to understand us. I also would not have explained this here in this way, but I cannot let Raven's motives be questioned and his honor called into doubt. For my part, I will follow no other. Raven is my Archon. BlackThorn

[font="Arial Black"]I am BlackThorn, Bard and voice of the Root. To deny that which is true; is to bring maddness into the world. It is not always easy to recognize the truth of a thing even when it is right in front of you. I have studied the Tao for twenty years, and yet I still would not presume to tell others what they should think. But please allow me to simply state my observations of what I know to be true before you make your choice. Raven is the leader of Loreroot alliance, and as such, has the sworn fealty of both the Children of the Eclipse and the Savelites. He is the leader of the High Council of Loreroot. Raven leads Loreroot. He does so both by his example and by his actions. He has never waivered in his loyalty or service to the Root. Whether he is awarded the title or not, it will change nothing. This vote is about recognizing what already is. Raven is the Archon of Loreroot.[/font]

quest will begin durring the festival....here is anouther peek.

I am BlackThorn. Bard and Voice of the Root. I Welcome you to the Wild Wood, a deeper part of Loreroot. Here you will have to watch your every step, or the forest may just swallow you up. If you decide you can handle the challenge.....then answer the call for adventure, and go on a dangerous quest to find a lost artifact of Loreroot. The rewards for success are great, But so too is the cost of failure. sign up and state why you should be chosen.

some more for your viewing pleasure...if you see me about and would like me to draw an avatar for you ...please ask...for those of you who are still waiting for yours...i am working on them...my list is long and time is scarce, but i will get them done as soon as possible...also I have given up on some of them, unfortunately your requests exceeded my talent and I have surrendered...my appologies. BlackThorn

I am BlackThorn, Bard of Loreroot. NelyaSetesh, Lady of the Root, has asked me to begin this on her behalf, and so I must. "First I will tell you of what has already transpired." \\ "Oh BlackThorn where are you taking me?" NelyaSetesh was in no mood for any of the bard’s silly games. She was worried about the developments in the balance between Golemus and Necrovion and how it would affect Loreroot. The loss of Wodin still weighed heavily on her heart. "If you are wasting my time, my boot will meet your face." She growled. BlackThorn was not in his usual take-life-as-it-comes mood. He seemed quite in earnest as he led the beautiful nymph deep into a very secluded part of the wildwood. At her words he seemed to wince as if she had just slapped him, and he was quiet. "What is going on?" she said. "You are never this quiet. In fact, most times I find it rather hard to shut you up." She was beginning to grow concerned about her friend, and that made her angry. She turned to him and asked, "What’s wrong BlackThorn?" "We are almost there." he said turning to her in a low and quiet voice. "Listen." Nelya stopped next to where BlackThorn stood. He had his eyes closed. She tapped her foot anxiously on the ground, frustration and the pressures of the council weighing down upon her. "I don't hear any thing." she said. BlackThorn looked at her with tears welling up in his eyes. He said, "I didn't ask you to hear, I asked you to listen." Her anger left her then and she said, “BlackThorn I've hurt you. I'm sorry." He smiled at her and said, “I grew up here. In this valley." Nelya looked around at the ancient trees and thick carpeted moss covering the forest floor. “This was your home? Before The knator Lord found you?" He shook his head in the affirmative. “I would like to meet the vine you call your Mother." she said with kindness. "It must have been terribly lonely for you here." she said when he didn't speak. "No" he replied. "It wasn't. HE was always here. Always." Nelya began to feel her heart beat faster. “Who was here?" she asked in a distracted kind of voice. "The Knator Commander did not know why I was abandoned here." He said. "But I do, now. It was to prepare me, so I could bring you here." Nelya could feel him now. He was so close. " HE is calling me." She said as if in a dream, and then began to run. She ran until her lungs burned but that did not matter. "HE" was calling her. She reached the center of the valley and there all in a circle stood a copse of the most ancient trees she had ever seen. She hurried to them and ran around them desperately searching for a way in. Nelya found a space large enough for her to just squeeze through. Inside she saw the same thick carpet of moss surrounded by the circle of ancient trees. A small fresh spring bubbled up from the depths. Standing stones with archaic Glyphs were scattered and tilted about. She new what to do. As she spoke NelyaSetesh knelt to the ground with her arms outstretched to the sky, and in an archaic Nymphic language she cried out: "Most ancient Father, heart of the wildwood, Giver and Keeper of Life, accept from me your most obedient child this gift and awaken." The wind began to blow and rain began to fall. She lowered her hands to the ground as pulses of yellow light surged from her body and were absorbed into the mossy floor. The ancient stones sprang to life and the strange glyphs began to pulsate with power. After long minutes, Nelya’s sacrifice stopped. She was exhausted almost to the point of death. But then an answering rumble could be heard from far below the forest floor. The rumble grew louder as Nelya tried and failed to get to her feet. She could feel the life slipping away from her. "He is awake." She was utterly spent and hung on to life only to see Him one time before death claimed her mortal frame. At the very center of the circle of the copse, the ground began to heave and crack open. Root rose up from the ground and from his long slumber. He looked to his Priestess Nymph and she was suddenly bathed in light. Nelya felt the life of Root pour into her body. She was filled with his effulgence and yet still more flooded in, great stores of secret knowledge and power flowed from the gentle Lord of the forest into NelyaSetesh. Outside the Bard witnessed Nelya’s sacrifice. BlackThorn wept. When Nelya had entered the Sacred Circle, he had feared for her life, but the Bard was the voice of Root and so he had obeyed. Now he could hear the language of Root. All around the forest, things were changing; reawakening. She had succeeded. He was awake at last. The bard patiently waited for Nelya to return and many hours later the trees opened a way and she walked out to him. Exhausted she fell into his arms. He would be content to hold her forever there in his embrace. "The Root of Lore lies deep within," she accused him. "You knew. All this time you sang it in your songs, and you knew." He smiled that Take-life-as-it-comes smile of his and said, "Mitakuyé Oyasin." // .................................................................................................... From Calyx: (Mitakuyé Oyasin) From the Lakota language meaning all my relations. This thought concept is common to all aboriginal people of Turtle Island (North America). It acknowledges that everything Creator made, even that which (to modern eyes) appears dead or inanimate, is sentient, conscious, and capable of communicating with us. When we utter this phrase we are acknowledging our connection to the listener/reader and to all of creation. We are (stating and acknowledging that we) all related as family, as blood.

[quote name='dst' post='20659' date='Nov 22 2008, 03:16 PM']Why does everybody wants its own alliance? Maybe I should start one: bug researchers guild or maybe head contest winners (something like head hunters or mercenary thingy)...[/quote] definately...mercenary thingy...lol

[quote name='Sol' post='19417' date='Nov 3 2008, 08:37 AM']That sword is so smexy ^^ :clapping: So is the ring. :good: And the armour. :lol: Everything is really really great! Maybe draw more armours and if possible the whole set? ^^ B)[/quote] Thanks.....SubZeroo and I are working on a complete set...I'll put it up as soon as it's done..... BlackThorn

ok a few more....... BlackThorn

I would love to have some feedback on Items you want us to draw...some samples BlackThorn

[quote name='Liberty4life' post='19214' date='Oct 30 2008, 04:21 PM']ah i wonder is that aql's halberd? [/quote] Yes. And Nelya's Ring and Sword

[quote name='Tremir' post='18114' date='Oct 9 2008, 01:54 AM']Mur, your point about avatar cost just makes me think that my earlier idea was a good one. If it costs you 3$ for each avatar, why not pass the cost to those of us who want something specific? keep the generic avatars as they are, but allow us to ask for specific avatars, make those avatars ours without having to be lucky enough to be online when they are uploaded, and let us pay the 3$. I'd gladly pay that amount for an avatar that was created for my role.[/quote] I have to agree with Tremir... :drinks: Also I have opted to take only credits not cash so there is no real loss to the game financially. And it takes me on average about 2 hrs./avatar, some much, much longer. having 2 hrs to myself is not always easy. So I work on them when I have the time. Also, if you are having to wait for an avatar, be patient, it takes some time and my list is very long. 20 mins. Amorte...Wow...sometimes it takes me weeks to get the design right...you are too talented. stop it at once. :rofl: There are other possible systems that can incorporate many of the great ideas posted here. leave the level 1 avatars as they are, first come first served only with an age requirement of say 100 days, and- if and when the player has been offline for more than 6 months, then retire that player and reset the avatar. make lvl 2 avatars a higher price; they are lvl 2 because they are better than average, so pay 2 credits for it and set an age of 180 days. Make another lvl. "Custom Level" and charge 3 credits, no age requirement. Have the design contracted, directly with the artist you want, and when it is done then it is placed in the custom gallery under that players name. I would suggest that no other programming be needed here. We can use the honor system...When it shows the players name for which it was created then only that person (who also payed 2 credits for it in advance) can buy it for the remaining 1 credit. If some one takes anothers Custom...then they will lose it and the credit they spent. As for colored avatars this should also remain as it currently is...a reward for some at Manu's discretion and a 10 credit purchase for the fat cats among us. The pics are just for fun. :yahoo: BlackThorn

some others you should be seeing soon...If you have requested a custom avatar from me and have not seen it here yet, I am still working on my punch list...please be patient and I will get to it...you can always drop me a line and see where I am in it's creation...thanks for your understanding. BlackThorn

[quote name='King Manu' post='17384' date='Sep 26 2008, 10:43 PM']i am a bit confused, dojo is part of the university, its the university itself? lets talk a bit about this. To have a university in game with teachers on all kind of matters is something i will fully support, but this university should not be about game related matters. I think dojo should be training school for game related matters and the university should be about more real matters. I plan to add a personal doc special or the university that will allow teachers to prepare their lessons. Also the university should be located in MDA but with offices in other lands too. I think shifting the lessons place or organizing conferences on different matters in different locations is a good ideea. A special set of powers could be creted for university members to allow them better organizing of such events. Dojo on the other hand should be like second level LHO and help players learn how to fight but also prepare them for the role playing. The interface support for such a thing (both university and dojo in an organised way) involve a lot of changes and finalization of the archives doc system. I am willing to focus on that because i think that if this game evolves towards this university thing it will be simply amazing. However, university should remain an isolated group of schools. players shold want to get into the university and not find it everywhere like a group of fanatics trying to teach things to people that do not want to. Entrance to the university should be sort of a quest and target, in that way players will fight their way in and have a lot more respect to the teachers. The new voting system i finished recently could be used to mark the teachers and not the student. the students should not get marks, but the teachers should.[/quote] When we were first discussing the idea of having a university in Loreroot (the Arcanum), we realized it needed to be linked to the Dojo so that theory could be put into practice (like lab work in RL). We had intended to offer different schools of study, different degrees. The Idea was to offer classes in many subjects that were MD game related. (No offense, but I already have my degrees from RL universities, and I am not interested in studying more along those lines. I play this game to get away from RL, not to drag RL into the game. Besides, how would such a class be beneficial to the advancement of the game?) I would be very interested in earning an in-game degree in wizardry, or Alchemy, druidism, or perhaps in combat tactics. The number of degrees and subjects that could be studied are as diverse as MD itself and could contain the classes for the creation of new quests, creatures, inner and outer magic spells, armor, weapons, magically imbued items, and even exploring (beyond current map borders) by the students in attendance. In order to be given a license to begin a new alliance or guild, a player would need a specific degree (i.e. for a religious order; a theology degree). For a player to be allowed to create magic spells (written on scrolls so that anyone with high enough principle stats could purchase from the MD shop and use a limited number of times), would also require a particular degree. The classes themselves would be in written form, prepared and edited prior to it being offered. That way the students could read the class while waiting for the clock in Wind Sanc, or while hanging out in front of Willows, instead of being forced to be online while a live lecture was being delivered (not very practical). Each of the classes could be sold in a special section in the MD shop, and then the instructor/ instructors could be found when online and summond to the dojo for the practical side of the lesson. The live portion of the class would then take place in the dojo, where the students could put into practice what they had studied and /or ask the instructor questions. Upon the successful completion of a degree program and before graduation, a thesis written by each student would be required, as is done in all RL university graduate programs, and those thesis statements would then create a library for future generations of students. At graduation, we had hoped Manu would bestow MP7 status along with spells and additional stat bonuses. The idea of the university was to create another system to advance all areas of the game by the players themselves' by their own efforts and merits. That way the game will grow exponentially, and not by the effort of only a few. A $1 per class fee could be charged as tuition in the MD shop when the classes are purchased, that way instructors could be hired from among the players to create the courses, so that they are rewarded for their efforts as well. The tuition would hopefully insure a serious attitude but allow for each student to advance at their own speed, and also allow for it to remain free (voting credits). I still hope these ideas could be put into practice. I would be very interested in hearing what you all think about this kind of university.