My mistake then, I don't read whole posts, usually...unless they're something I think is important enough...which happens to be just about nothing :/
So, why are we debating this anyways? I've read (I think) quite a few times that Mur doesn't go through the forum much, and in the end he has the final decision, does he not?
Oh, and Rendril again: It wasn't entirely RP, as Yrth took some of Grido's spells. Then there's also Khal the White, which COULD be an RP thing, but then he does control the actual account, as far as I know.