pipster

i would say it needs to be more robotic. the game set things are what a new player can instantly relate to. there isn't the ten million questions to ask and search the forums for which is just very dam overwhelming when you get into the player driven things. not sure if i said this correctly but i think most of you will get what i mean.

i would say it needs to be more robotic. the game set things are what a new player can instantly relate to. there isn't the ten million questions to ask and search the forums for which is just very dam overwhelming when you get into the player driven things. not sure if i said this correctly but i think most of you will get what i mean.

i would say it needs to be more robotic. the game set things are what a new player can instantly relate to. there isn't the ten million questions to ask and search the forums for which is just very dam overwhelming when you get into the player driven things. not sure if i said this correctly but i think most of you will get what i mean.

i would say it needs to be more robotic. the game set things are what a new player can instantly relate to. there isn't the ten million questions to ask and search the forums for which is just very dam overwhelming when you get into the player driven things. not sure if i said this correctly but i think most of you will get what i mean.

So I might get excommunicated for this, but I find most of everything coming out of your mouths a bunch of bullshit. Life is what it it is. You look to deep for meanings right in front of you. I appreciate the fact that everyone wants to look beyond, but well see: Look to your own heart, it speaks the truth and is sometimes the most broken mirror of all. Stop bitching and start apprecitating what lays before you. I mean seriously???


OFF WITH HER HEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[quote name='Pipstickz' timestamp='1290585508' post='73000']

By the way, direct quotes from chatlog (with other things removed, [url="http://storenow.net/my/?f=2440"]full log[/url] courtesy of dst):
[18/11/10 06:44] Grido:my questioning would be as to weather Mur said, as i recall,that people weren't meant to go there?
[18/11/10 06:44] Grido:particularly since i got an alt banned because it was sitting in there
[18/11/10 06:45] Grido:pretty certain people aren't allowed to go there
[18/11/10 06:45] Grido:still, Drach Lair is out of bounds last i checked
[18/11/10 06:46] Grido:Because as i recall, Mur madea point of blocking it
[18/11/10 06:47] Grido:like i said, an alt of mine got banned for just sitting in there
[18/11/10 06:48] Grido:because i'm 95% certain an email is going to hit them telling them people are inside Drach Lair soon

[18/11/10 06:53] Seigheart:Grido, I'll take my chances at the lair. It's a risk I an willing to take.

Grido mentioned MULTIPLE times lair wasn't allowed, Seigheart went ahead with it anyways.
[/quote]

since seigheart was pardoned i think RJ and lifeline have the right to say they were unfairly punished. seigheart KNEW it was against rules but he kept on going (he set the whole ting up). this is a fact as shown above. now if he gets RJ and lifeline to go with him without saying it is against rules who is to blame? i know for a fact RJ didn't know because of our convo in the drach cave, and when he found out there was a question of it being legal we left. in fact when i asked RJ how does a GGG work he said to me i don't know i am waiting for seigheart to come online so he can get this going. if you all really want to yell about someone breaking rules it would be seigheart ! yet he gets pardoned?

[quote name='Pipstickz' timestamp='1290585508' post='73000']

By the way, direct quotes from chatlog (with other things removed, [url="http://storenow.net/my/?f=2440"]full log[/url] courtesy of dst):
[18/11/10 06:44] Grido:my questioning would be as to weather Mur said, as i recall,that people weren't meant to go there?
[18/11/10 06:44] Grido:particularly since i got an alt banned because it was sitting in there
[18/11/10 06:45] Grido:pretty certain people aren't allowed to go there
[18/11/10 06:45] Grido:still, Drach Lair is out of bounds last i checked
[18/11/10 06:46] Grido:Because as i recall, Mur madea point of blocking it
[18/11/10 06:47] Grido:like i said, an alt of mine got banned for just sitting in there
[18/11/10 06:48] Grido:because i'm 95% certain an email is going to hit them telling them people are inside Drach Lair soon

[18/11/10 06:53] Seigheart:Grido, I'll take my chances at the lair. It's a risk I an willing to take.

Grido mentioned MULTIPLE times lair wasn't allowed, Seigheart went ahead with it anyways.
[/quote]

since seigheart was pardoned i think RJ and lifeline have the right to say they were unfairly punished. seigheart KNEW it was against rules but he kept on going (he set the whole ting up). this is a fact as shown above. now if he gets RJ and lifeline to go with him without saying it is against rules who is to blame? i know for a fact RJ didn't know because of our convo in the drach cave, and when he found out there was a question of it being legal we left. in fact when i asked RJ how does a GGG work he said to me i don't know i am waiting for seigheart to come online so he can get this going. if you all really want to yell about someone breaking rules it would be seigheart ! yet he gets pardoned?

[quote name='Pipstickz' timestamp='1290585508' post='73000']

By the way, direct quotes from chatlog (with other things removed, [url="http://storenow.net/my/?f=2440"]full log[/url] courtesy of dst):
[18/11/10 06:44] Grido:my questioning would be as to weather Mur said, as i recall,that people weren't meant to go there?
[18/11/10 06:44] Grido:particularly since i got an alt banned because it was sitting in there
[18/11/10 06:45] Grido:pretty certain people aren't allowed to go there
[18/11/10 06:45] Grido:still, Drach Lair is out of bounds last i checked
[18/11/10 06:46] Grido:Because as i recall, Mur madea point of blocking it
[18/11/10 06:47] Grido:like i said, an alt of mine got banned for just sitting in there
[18/11/10 06:48] Grido:because i'm 95% certain an email is going to hit them telling them people are inside Drach Lair soon

[18/11/10 06:53] Seigheart:Grido, I'll take my chances at the lair. It's a risk I an willing to take.

Grido mentioned MULTIPLE times lair wasn't allowed, Seigheart went ahead with it anyways.
[/quote]

since seigheart was pardoned i think RJ and lifeline have the right to say they were unfairly punished. seigheart KNEW it was against rules but he kept on going (he set the whole ting up). this is a fact as shown above. now if he gets RJ and lifeline to go with him without saying it is against rules who is to blame? i know for a fact RJ didn't know because of our convo in the drach cave, and when he found out there was a question of it being legal we left. in fact when i asked RJ how does a GGG work he said to me i don't know i am waiting for seigheart to come online so he can get this going. if you all really want to yell about someone breaking rules it would be seigheart ! yet he gets pardoned?

[quote name='Pipstickz' timestamp='1290585508' post='73000']

By the way, direct quotes from chatlog (with other things removed, [url="http://storenow.net/my/?f=2440"]full log[/url] courtesy of dst):
[18/11/10 06:44] Grido:my questioning would be as to weather Mur said, as i recall,that people weren't meant to go there?
[18/11/10 06:44] Grido:particularly since i got an alt banned because it was sitting in there
[18/11/10 06:45] Grido:pretty certain people aren't allowed to go there
[18/11/10 06:45] Grido:still, Drach Lair is out of bounds last i checked
[18/11/10 06:46] Grido:Because as i recall, Mur madea point of blocking it
[18/11/10 06:47] Grido:like i said, an alt of mine got banned for just sitting in there
[18/11/10 06:48] Grido:because i'm 95% certain an email is going to hit them telling them people are inside Drach Lair soon

[18/11/10 06:53] Seigheart:Grido, I'll take my chances at the lair. It's a risk I an willing to take.

Grido mentioned MULTIPLE times lair wasn't allowed, Seigheart went ahead with it anyways.
[/quote]

since seigheart was pardoned i think RJ and lifeline have the right to say they were unfairly punished. seigheart KNEW it was against rules but he kept on going (he set the whole ting up). this is a fact as shown above. now if he gets RJ and lifeline to go with him without saying it is against rules who is to blame? i know for a fact RJ didn't know because of our convo in the drach cave, and when he found out there was a question of it being legal we left. in fact when i asked RJ how does a GGG work he said to me i don't know i am waiting for seigheart to come online so he can get this going. if you all really want to yell about someone breaking rules it would be seigheart ! yet he gets pardoned?

[quote name='Pipstickz' timestamp='1290560121' post='72964']
You need to be in the same location as the chat you want to pull with the chatlog spell.
[/quote]

that still don't answer how it isn't an intrusion on kingdoms? or the one about using spells how they were made? like i say i am more or so interested how that double standard works here? i think she isn't a king or queen?? but still she can use that spell any place she goes. since she is part of underground?? using it outside of underground isn't an intrusion?

also where you not the one who had said in a prior topic about that drach cave, the punishment was only for taking a drach out of it not for being there? which is exactly what i think everyone who was involved thought. if a spot is closed so you can't remove something from it, then the thing you can remove from it is removed, don't this negate the reason it was closed in the first place??

i have a question maybe someone here can answer. now lifeline used a spell of his how it was intended to move people from one place to another. dst uses a spell of hers to see others chats. now why is one wrong (lifelines) while dst is fine? everyone argued on her behalf that she could use that spell in any manner, seems that's the same thing lifeline did.

now you can argue that he went to a place that was closed, but can't one also argue that if it was truly closed then the spell shouldn't of brought anyone there? just like how dst can see talk in any location why is that fine? why isn't places she can't see? isn't this an invasion of higher morals to each kingdom? since this topic seems to be moving more so from actually having a GGG to invading kingdoms i am lost how this works.

i don't know much about spells or this so that's why i am asking here because it does seem relevant to me.

[quote name='Pipstickz' timestamp='1290560121' post='72964']
You need to be in the same location as the chat you want to pull with the chatlog spell.
[/quote]

that still don't answer how it isn't an intrusion on kingdoms? or the one about using spells how they were made? like i say i am more or so interested how that double standard works here? i think she isn't a king or queen?? but still she can use that spell any place she goes. since she is part of underground?? using it outside of underground isn't an intrusion?

also where you not the one who had said in a prior topic about that drach cave, the punishment was only for taking a drach out of it not for being there? which is exactly what i think everyone who was involved thought. if a spot is closed so you can't remove something from it, then the thing you can remove from it is removed, don't this negate the reason it was closed in the first place??

i have a question maybe someone here can answer. now lifeline used a spell of his how it was intended to move people from one place to another. dst uses a spell of hers to see others chats. now why is one wrong (lifelines) while dst is fine? everyone argued on her behalf that she could use that spell in any manner, seems that's the same thing lifeline did.

now you can argue that he went to a place that was closed, but can't one also argue that if it was truly closed then the spell shouldn't of brought anyone there? just like how dst can see talk in any location why is that fine? why isn't places she can't see? isn't this an invasion of higher morals to each kingdom? since this topic seems to be moving more so from actually having a GGG to invading kingdoms i am lost how this works.

i don't know much about spells or this so that's why i am asking here because it does seem relevant to me.

i have a question maybe someone here can answer. now lifeline used a spell of his how it was intended to move people from one place to another. dst uses a spell of hers to see others chats. now why is one wrong (lifelines) while dst is fine? everyone argued on her behalf that she could use that spell in any manner, seems that's the same thing lifeline did.

now you can argue that he went to a place that was closed, but can't one also argue that if it was truly closed then the spell shouldn't of brought anyone there? just like how dst can see talk in any location why is that fine? why isn't places she can't see? isn't this an invasion of higher morals to each kingdom? since this topic seems to be moving more so from actually having a GGG to invading kingdoms i am lost how this works.

i don't know much about spells or this so that's why i am asking here because it does seem relevant to me.

[quote name='Pipstickz' timestamp='1290560121' post='72964']
You need to be in the same location as the chat you want to pull with the chatlog spell.
[/quote]

that still don't answer how it isn't an intrusion on kingdoms? or the one about using spells how they were made? like i say i am more or so interested how that double standard works here? i think she isn't a king or queen?? but still she can use that spell any place she goes. since she is part of underground?? using it outside of underground isn't an intrusion?

also where you not the one who had said in a prior topic about that drach cave, the punishment was only for taking a drach out of it not for being there? which is exactly what i think everyone who was involved thought. if a spot is closed so you can't remove something from it, then the thing you can remove from it is removed, don't this negate the reason it was closed in the first place??

[quote name='Grido' timestamp='1290120431' post='72519']
No.

You miss my point.

dst treats the Sparring Grounds THE SAME WAY SHE TREATS THE OTHER TRAINING GROUNDS, there's no real difference.
[/quote]

really? show me where she is crying over SG having rules to them? i never seen that once here, if she comes out and says ALL rules in the game should be outlawed then fine i would agree with her, but i haven't seen that. shes just picking on one person who wanted to make something like a SG for MP5 players, and for that i call it very petty.


[quote name='dst' timestamp='1290077915' post='72420']
Public place where everyone can get access to. No rules on how players should attack. If you wish to set a tree, do it without screaming if someone breaks your rit.
[/quote]

this is what i base my argument over, see how she says NO rules on players should attack? so by this logic it should apply to all locations in the game, not to just to mp 5 she can attack as these GGG could very well hold mp3,4 players. hope this clears things up grido

[quote name='Pipstickz' timestamp='1290560121' post='72964']
You need to be in the same location as the chat you want to pull with the chatlog spell.
[/quote]

that still don't answer how it isn't an intrusion on kingdoms? or the one about using spells how they were made? like i say i am more or so interested how that double standard works here? i think she isn't a king or queen?? but still she can use that spell any place she goes. since she is part of underground?? using it outside of underground isn't an intrusion?

also where you not the one who had said in a prior topic about that drach cave, the punishment was only for taking a drach out of it not for being there? which is exactly what i think everyone who was involved thought. if a spot is closed so you can't remove something from it, then the thing you can remove from it is removed, don't this negate the reason it was closed in the first place??

i have a question maybe someone here can answer. now lifeline used a spell of his how it was intended to move people from one place to another. dst uses a spell of hers to see others chats. now why is one wrong (lifelines) while dst is fine? everyone argued on her behalf that she could use that spell in any manner, seems that's the same thing lifeline did.

now you can argue that he went to a place that was closed, but can't one also argue that if it was truly closed then the spell shouldn't of brought anyone there? just like how dst can see talk in any location why is that fine? why isn't places she can't see? isn't this an invasion of higher morals to each kingdom? since this topic seems to be moving more so from actually having a GGG to invading kingdoms i am lost how this works.

i don't know much about spells or this so that's why i am asking here because it does seem relevant to me.

[quote name='Pipstickz' timestamp='1290560121' post='72964']
You need to be in the same location as the chat you want to pull with the chatlog spell.
[/quote]

that still don't answer how it isn't an intrusion on kingdoms? or the one about using spells how they were made? like i say i am more or so interested how that double standard works here? i think she isn't a king or queen?? but still she can use that spell any place she goes. since she is part of underground?? using it outside of underground isn't an intrusion?

also where you not the one who had said in a prior topic about that drach cave, the punishment was only for taking a drach out of it not for being there? which is exactly what i think everyone who was involved thought. if a spot is closed so you can't remove something from it, then the thing you can remove from it is removed, don't this negate the reason it was closed in the first place??

[quote name='Pipstickz' timestamp='1290560121' post='72964']
You need to be in the same location as the chat you want to pull with the chatlog spell.
[/quote]

that still don't answer how it isn't an intrusion on kingdoms? or the one about using spells how they were made? like i say i am more or so interested how that double standard works here? i think she isn't a king or queen?? but still she can use that spell any place she goes. since she is part of underground?? using it outside of underground isn't an intrusion?

also where you not the one who had said in a prior topic about that drach cave, the punishment was only for taking a drach out of it not for being there? which is exactly what i think everyone who was involved thought. if a spot is closed so you can't remove something from it, then the thing you can remove from it is removed, don't this negate the reason it was closed in the first place??

first of all this is no joke i am dead serious!
and while speaking of death i will put my life on the line for this in order to avoid this trial being fake, postponed, stagnated, not taken serious, or whatever else like it was the case in the fenrir vs dst trial for example. just for the record the trial just stagnated and the judgement was never carried out while fenrir still played. then after several months fenrir quit the game and a few days later the judgement was spoken and of course against fenrir who had left by that time. so in order to avoid any fake trial and show my huge dissatisfaction with the last incident i will go all out on this one and make this about life and death for me. i will show all my determination in this trial and go down fighting for what i not only as player but also as king of a mainland believe is fair justice. if i loose this trial i shall be openly executed (execution followed by perm ban for my main account and other accounts i have) and will pass the crown of marind bell and kingship title with all the kingship items to one of the council members of marind bell who i deem worthy of being the next king/queen.

little info beforehand: i trusted a former rpc who wasnot stoned/demoted/kicked or anything. RJ ensured me he is allowed to invite as many people inside the drach lair as he wants so i believed him because he was still the master of the lair and it never says in the rules or announcements that the area is offlimits plus no more drachs can be recruited.

so now lets get this started:
i hereby want to go to court against how mur and the "royal" court passed down judgement and handled the drachorn lair incident. especially how innocent players like masterb who didnt even know he would end up in drach lair got punished. he left the lair seconds after he got teleported in so no matter how u look at it he is perfectly innocent!
i believe that the recent drachorn lair incident was handled most unfair and unjust. i will begin by posting all the announcements involving the drachorn lair:
[i]
[2009-09-01 13:06:58 - Alpha 9]
[b].SmartAlekRJ. steps down from RPC list on his own request. Part of his rpc abilites will be withdrawn together with his status, future of Drachorns is still to be decided.[/b] (For the record, the stated reason for him requesting the demotion is the recent situation with .Raven. where he considered that .Akasha. kept the issue public instead of solving it closed curtains between rpcs only.) [/i]

RJ steps down on his own will and isnt stoned/demoted/kicked or anything. the players in the recent drach lair incident had no reason to mistrust him. he was a former rpc, still had access to the drach lair and is still the master of the cave (only he got access not even the golemus king can enter). RJ himself invited all of us into the drach lair so we had good reason to trust in his word and believe him.
("Part of his [b]rpc abilites[/b] will be withdrawn together with his [b]status[/b]" its a little unclear but status with a clear mention of rpc before can in my opinion only mean rpc status things get removed but not his role as master of the drach cave)


[i][2010-03-13 01:57:27 - Alpha 9]
[b]Drachorn Cave closed for undefined time.[/b] It might get opend later or integrated somehow with a quest but for now it stays closed. (@Smartalekrj, drachs were supposed to be used as rewards for smart quests , not for who pays more.)[/i]

it merely says it is closed with RJ still having access to it. it NEVER says anywhere that the location is offlimits or illegal to enter. since i know i will have to be real clear on this: open is the opposite of closed. so closed means that u cant open it. and indeed yes nobody can open it but RJ can walk inside (he has access) and several people can teleport others inside. it got closed when RJ lost his ability to open it for others. so closed refers only to nobody being able to open the lair and not that the location is offlimits or forbidden to enter.


[i][2009-04-18 20:36:34 - Alpha 8]
Drachorn Eggs sacrifice day..not for Easter Eggs
Because of excessive amounts of drachorns when usual reward is 1 maximum 2, several measures have been taken against following players: Caster masc (aka tankfans) killed 7 drachorns eggs (all), .MRD. killed 10 drachorns eggs (all) , PTB killed 5 drachorns eggs (all), .Grido. killed 11 drachorn eggs. A few players were left with over 5 drachorns because of their role and because those drachorns are expected to be used as rewards for other players. [b].SmartalekRJ., the drachorn master,[/b] lost his ability to give access to the Drachorns Lair. [b]Access to the Lair was removed from all characters except .SmaralekRJ.[/b] . Access to the Lair and recruiting of just one, was a matter of trust, but it seems some considered it as a great opportunity to get too many rare creatures. Distribution of drachorns in the realm will be increased later when they will become again very rare (more than now). Those penalised should be happy that the penalisation was not higher. [/i]

now here 33 drachorns were illegally purchased and the only punishment they got was that their illegal drachorns were sacrificed. RJ stayed drachorn master and still kept his access to the lair = he is the master of the cave, he owns it.
please compare to the recent case: nobody was able to recruit a single drachorn in the cave so no real harm was done and everything else like unjustified access ect was exactly the same as the situation before but never even mentioned back then. but now players got high punishment unlike the ones from the previous incident who completely abused the situation and recruited up to 11 drachorns per person illegally and got away with no punishment at all (expect the illegal drachs being sacrificed)


and finally in the rules and restrictions it never says anything about locations being offlimit forbidden not even anything slighty close to that. but it does say the following:

[b]"You are free to do anything in the game that is tehnicaly allowed. If you consider that you discovered some sort of exploit or a bug, report it to a moderator. "[/b]

that is official game rule and it tells me of no restriction but even the contrary that i can do pretty much whatever i want.

the forum has 67,072 posts and mur has 1,355 posts. its not realistic for any person to read every single one and memorize it perfectly so even if somewhere on the forum it was explicitly said that the drach cave is forbidden to be entered or offlimits then it matters little because players simply dont see it, never did, or cant remember. actually i believe i checked all forum and here is the only thing i could find about drach cave from mur: "drach cave is closed explicitly, regardless if you have access to it or not." again it says CLOSED not forbidden to enter, offlimits, ect. but i wont explain the meaning of the word closed and its implication again.


so to summarize this whole thing: heavy punishment was delivered to people who had no chance at all of knowing better. on top of that did the only player able to enter the cave and master of the drach lair personally invite them all. he is a trustworthy former rpc.
i believe the punishment is out of place because players involved simply didnt know it was against the rules and in fact NOWHERE in MD does it ever mention that it is against the rules.


from the announcements after the punishment: "Lifeline Kingship penalty
An official character, especially a king, commits a big crime if he sets such a negative example of ignorance towards announcements and rules. Cave was closed, officially, and announced, long ago. "
i am sorry but neither in the announcements nor in the rules does it say its a crime, offlimits, forbidden to enter, ect as i just prooved above. [b]ACTUALLY IT EVEN SAYS THE CONTRARY IN THE RULES. "YOU ARE FREE TO DO ANYTHING IN THE GAME THAT IS TEHNICALY ALLOWED".[/b] (just a short remark before this is held against me because of possible abuse or whatever: i have the chase spell since almost 2 years i could have chased into the drach lair and recruit drachs several times, i could have even went to angien shrine before it was open. but i never did because it made sense to me that u can recruit crits there that arent supposed to be bought easly.) and once again only the word CLOSED is used even in the forum post from mur. heck every damn shop tells me its closed after the workingshift is over but there are still people inside shopping who get to pay and purchase everything.

PLUS: i have another very good reason and PROOF why this punishment and whole incident has nothing to do with breaking rules, announcements, written laws or even offending anything that was ever mentioned to me or other people. i will not post that openly on forums but once i know who to contact with this i will send it to that/those person/s. i will ask if i am allowed to post that proof here because then the ultimate proof will be served.
what this case is about is a "law" that probably even the MDStaff (in case that staff even exists) never heard before.

SO to finally wrap this up:
if the trial goes in my favor i request that the punishment for all players who i teleported including myself to be undone and no further bad consequences to follow for us. since mur explained to me that prison time is impossible for a king i am willing to keep the kingship penality point which should serve as the punishment that would have been justified - a warning for something i didnt know was against the rules and something that was never anywhere written/declared as crime/offense.
ALSO very important: Seigheart never entered the drach cave and i didnt teleport him! but if i understand the announcement correct he was pardoned anyway. and i cant speak for smartalekrj i believed him when he told me he is allowed to invite as many people inside as he wants. i dont know if he lied or not but RJ if u didnt know it was against the rules please speak up here and explain ur situation.

if this trial is decided against me i will go down fighting for what i believe is right and just. these will then be my last moments as the first king of marind bell and seeker of knowledge lifeline. may my death hopefully at least accomplish that laws/rules get publically and officially posted so that they are well know and nobody else suffers my fate.

[quote name='Grido' timestamp='1290120431' post='72519']
No.

You miss my point.

dst treats the Sparring Grounds THE SAME WAY SHE TREATS THE OTHER TRAINING GROUNDS, there's no real difference.
[/quote]

really? show me where she is crying over SG having rules to them? i never seen that once here, if she comes out and says ALL rules in the game should be outlawed then fine i would agree with her, but i haven't seen that. shes just picking on one person who wanted to make something like a SG for MP5 players, and for that i call it very petty.


[quote name='dst' timestamp='1290077915' post='72420']
Public place where everyone can get access to. No rules on how players should attack. If you wish to set a tree, do it without screaming if someone breaks your rit.
[/quote]

this is what i base my argument over, see how she says NO rules on players should attack? so by this logic it should apply to all locations in the game, not to just to mp 5 she can attack as these GGG could very well hold mp3,4 players. hope this clears things up grido

[quote name='Grido' timestamp='1290118706' post='72514']
The sparring grounds doesn't have rules that she's able to break, never mind whether she'd want to or not. Anyone who dst can attack in the sparring grounds, she's allowed to attack by the rules. All she's doing at the other training sites is attacking the people she's able, and posting the location they're at if they're persistent. SG is at a location everyone knows, so no point stating it, and she does attack everyone she's able there. So I don't think you have a point about that....
[/quote]

grido i think your missing my whole thing here, who cares if sparing grounds has rules she can break. if you don't like the idea of rules binding to combat it should include all spots and all MP levels. if you think this whole thing is about her want to only focus on rules for mp 5 levels i say that's stupid. the game isn't about dst, so just to say oh someone made a rule dst finds annoying then we should call it out makes me laugh. what it does show is that she has a big head as the game surely isn't about appeasing dst !

[quote name='Grido' timestamp='1290117773' post='72508']
I would suggest you read the signpost for the rules
[/quote]

grido your quote proves what i was saying, there is RULES there period, you can't judge what rules matter when you are running your spout off about how you hate spots where people train with rules, when there has been a spot like this in the game for years.

and yes i know the rules of SG so don't bother telling me how they different, when that isn't the point.

[quote name='Malaikat Maut' timestamp='1290117130' post='72506']
The sparring ground rules don't apply to DST, as she's MP5.
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maut i think you read my post wrong. my point is shes all against a GGG because it has rules to it, well the sparing grounds have rules to it so why not the big yelping over that? i could careless if SG only apply to level 3,4 it is still a location with rules to fighting, which she is crying over. now do you get my point?