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[quote name='Fyrd Argentus' timestamp='1284930365' post='68703'] Please understand, I was fighting february back when I was an mp3 200 days ago. I am pushing MP6 now, and have lost to him as MP5. This is a player who knows what he is doing, and apparently is proud of it. The issue is why certain players want to stay in tutorial mode (MP3), and what that does to the real beginners. Beginners are a dwindling resource for MagicDuel and the game is threatened with collapse unless we draw in more players, instead of driving them away. [/quote] Actually I'm more or less aware of his age, I was fighting him back over 500 days ago (For most of you that don't know me, and that would be ALOT of you, I'm over 3 years old), but I still remain unconvinced that he's purposely driving away beginners. I'm not defending him or his kind but it doesn't seem like he has broken a rule (or if he has, like a said, it's in between the unknown borderline of two of them: what he can/can't do), sure beginners are a dwindling resource but I don't think he should be punished (or as harshly) if he did not purposely set the ritual up to cap players. [quote name='Muratus del Mur' timestamp='1283416032' post='67543'] Suggestion 1: If fight ends in a cap for one of the players, the other will get minus 10% ve as penalty. cons: - suicidal attacks to lower ve of a player by capping alts on him. Its fine, he should move on. - hard to determine if fight will be such a fight or not, but it does happen only once, right? maybe this will keep vets more careful when atacking random noobs? - overall paranoia pros: - noobs attacking and capping an older account will not feel much of a 10% penalty because their vitality total is anyway low. But vets will suffer from 10% Suggestion 2: No Ve reward for saking creatures at mp lower than 4 cons: - limiting developing of character at mp3 - limits just one type of mp3 overpower pros: - adds something more to the mp4+ levels Suggestion 3: - Add a count of how many players someone capped. On a certain number penalize him somehow but not move him. pros: limits repetitive abuse cons: persistent players that want to do that will still do it penalty suggestion: apply one random action of these. the difference in severity is a risk to consider: destroy one random creature regardless of level rarity or age. Destroy one random item not marked rare(admin items). Lower ve by 30%. Lower all stats by 15%. Jail time one week. What and why not: - no forcing someone to next mp, its true some want to stay at mp3 as a role and holding the ability to move them is dengerous - no stats cap. I don't think any of you, or me, can decide what decent stats are or where to place this cap - no sak limit, can get annoying when you realised you got only aramors and want to sac them but you cant. Sac for free is also not good because it alters the concept of sacrificing and for a noob to see that is not good and makes no sense. [/quote] Suggestion 1: The cons seem to outweigh the pros in this case... However, I like this proposal! Suggestion 2: With the removal of the the massive VE boost from lvl2 Angiens it seems like this has already been put into effect, I again have no complaints. Suggestion 3: I'm unsure as to how this would work and people may also abuse this. (Such as purposefully creating accounts to get capped) (I mean it's bound to happen, just look at older incidents such as MP2s in the HC) Feb's stats are also somewhat insane. (They would rival MP5s) Simply lowering his VE wouldn't suffice. (I do have counter rituals against High VE rituals but due to his insanely high stats it's almost worthless)

Personally to me, complains against Feb seems to be more or less a clash between a few rules: [list] [*]Any repeated complain from multiple unique users will get some kind of unwanted action on you, try not to offend people, or to cause a mess in general [/list] and [list] [*]You can use rituals that other consider unfair, all rituals are allowed, except if abusing a bug, then you will have to report it first. [/list] However, there doesn't seem to be a fine or fair line drawn between either of them, the sky is the limit for all we know. [list] [*]By harrasment we [u][b]understand[/b][/u] constant verbal abuse and moking. Repeated attacks or other ways are not considered punishable harrasment but can be brought up for judging if you think they should. [/list] But in relation to the commotion Feb has caused, I think ruining another person's experience, attempting to force others to evolve is considered a form of harassment. This again is listed on the rules but is extremely broad making it open to many interpretation. I would agree with Burns in the sense that the ritual does seem unfair and his activeness is quite disturbing HOWEVER I personally am unsure (and unconvinced) that he was specifically targeting new players, in this sense; I will take it as the best in his case; and that he wasn't purposely targeting players to cap them. And if so, I don't think he should be forced up an Mind Power just yet, I think we should give him a chance to correct or change his ritual and imposing a light sanction before moving him up, in essence MP3 still represents that he is learning about the game, sure he may have power but he lacks what older MPs have; that is of knowledge. (which in some form ties in with the community and hence the reason for the petition) However, if he was purposely targeting new players to do nothing more than to force them to raise their Mind Power then I think he should be punished immediately because it is (or at least I see it as) a form of harassment. Just my 2 - 3 cents on this issue.

[quote name='Muratus del Mur' date='05 January 2010 - 10:40 AM' timestamp='1262688055' post='51889'] Wishing Star and Mr Mystery - baned for repeated abuse against new players. This is a one time decision, don't take it as a rule. They received info to contact a mod to get out, its up to you when that will be. note: this is according to the rules, more players complained, as dst pointed out. [/quote] Wait wait... so the blacklist is pretty much a jail/ban right?

I'd agree with Pipstickz here, if you don't transfer the creatures and it's to benefit that account and THAT account only then it should be fine, otherwise a definite no.

[quote name='Sharpwind' date='30 November 2009 - 03:07 PM' timestamp='1259593673' post='48760'] Why not just making a HC tournament just for vet players, where everyone can compete over and over again (perhaps even from all mp levels at the same time) with no actual reward other than a special gold metal and their names inscribed in gold on the pillar under the statue in the tribunals in the order of most wins Wouldn't that be something to fight and train for ?? [/quote] Sounds like a great idea but the same vets would win it over and over. Imagine fighting a brick wall (eg... err.... Good ol' Lifeline) with over 9000 def and you barely do 1 to his creatures, if this competition existed then... well he'd probably never lose.

[quote name='Grim Angel' date='29 November 2009 - 01:12 PM' timestamp='1259500335' post='48701'] Are we even allowed to win the Heads with alts? It could be seen as alt abuse becaus eof the credits and everything >_> OR I'll start making loads of super powered MP3's [/quote] Actually with the new extra $40 worth of credit i think it might be possible to use alts to generate overpowered MP3s. For instance: $40 credit + just a bit more ([b]EASILY[/b] obtained through other measures) = Rusty/Tokens Rinse and repeat for 6 months = 6 x Rusty /Tokened creatures 6 x Rusty /Tokened creatures = Winning all HC Winning all HC = More credit More credit = Winning all HC and etc etc... Also I can see the new HC destroying the economy now, it's too easy to obtain a Rusty/Limited creatures. Prices will deflate and the economy may collapse.

[quote name='Tipu' date='30 November 2009 - 03:10 AM' timestamp='1259550638' post='48738'] Ho PLZ don't do such a change. let me tell u it will only make strong people more stronger. Plz don't do it. Lets every body get a chance and have a equal Stats First of all we iam a mp3 player face these problems 1) ALTS with lore root creatures 2) Players with sun god sets, royal guard sets and medusa sets ( I have no idea how they do this even at MP3lvl ) 3) Token whore player with heavy token Creatures or Creatures from MD shops 4) The Archers which does 1dmg hehehe . I mean r u guys expecting us to defeat mp4 player( when we get up to MP4 lvl) who has lore root creatures. Yes i can but i have to use fully grown Garson, armors and elemental if i have to score a win but what's the point i get Person XP which i don't want and waste my creatures XP which is already fully upgraded. 5) Quest which is not game related. U guys all know i don't need to mention those. 6) Torch competition with no rewards Now no Top of these thing if u allow Vets to participate in Head contest let me tell u simply " MANY WILL QUIT MD " It is fact u have to face it. Iam sorry to make such a comment i respect Life line a Lot more than ANY Md players but i won't agree to this Idea if Mur will implement i will Go on a unconditional Strike hehehe Head contest is all what we see a change to even the odds. If u implement Vet to participate i will tell the winners in Mp3 section now itself. Kyhpis, H, Chewette well u can start giving them 7 K Vit and 10 K Vp with 200 attack and defense Stats right away for next month too or perhaps for the next whole years hehehe No need to conduct head contest for mp3 hehehe. [/quote] Well I see your point here, allowing veterans to rejoin the would really only make those who are already strong... well stronger, especially in the MP3/4 levels where those who have pretty much stat farmed before the archer change can completely dominate everyone else. As a side note, number 1) - 5) can easily be done with a bit of preknowledge into the game, I've done it on my character and it isn't really an alt. PS: Where's my name up there? I'm pretty sure I would give H, Kyhpis and Chewette a run for their money! [quote name='North' date='30 November 2009 - 10:42 AM' timestamp='1259577728' post='48753'] Ps: It's offtopic but i think the structure of Torch competition should be changed as well in order to make it more interesting for the community, especially now with citizenship eg..reward to winning country, and then maybe a reward from the king to the top 3 performers from this country etc)..As it is now seems pretty dull and with minimal participation.. [/quote] Yeah, this is actually one of the problems regarding torch competitions. With rewards only being distributed to the lands, it pretty much puts off new players and players without a homeland from joining since there's absolutely no benefit and even if you are affiliated with a land your lord may also not do anything with the reward (aka. accumulate it). My suggestion here would be to implement some sort of mini-reward; possibly a very minor stat boost or a creature reward for a certain amount of kills attained or otherwise this event may as well die off due to minimal to no participation.

[quote name='death ray' date='20 November 2009 - 04:10 AM' timestamp='1258690223' post='47941'] @Grido no i never had that problem unless it happend with out me noticing. @dst i have fought the aramor's but thats been a few months ago [/quote] Possibly a cookie or flash error. The cause: When the game loads up, these entities are automatically set to their standard "non-defeated" state and will automatically revert to your own settings once the game synchronizes with the server. How to fix it? I have absolutely no clue, try perhaps deleting your cookies or even possibly checking your flash entries and see if magicduel isn't blocked.

[quote name='Neno Veliki' date='09 November 2009 - 09:35 PM' timestamp='1257802532' post='47117'] while creature with this ability is needed to balance principals or whatever the reason for creating that ability is, i dont think the archer is the right creat for that. one thing is that archer is basic creature that is used a lot by new players and with this change new players lost perfectly good damage/weaken creature. draining ability is interesting at higher mp levels where the principal stats are bigger but at low mp this kind of ability has really low effect. so maybe the better choice would be to create a new creature with that ability or giving that ability to some other more suitable not basic creature (for example unholy priest, drain ability suits him better than it suits archer by my oppinion) and leave the archers as they were. if anyone asks me i would prefer the "new creature in the realm" scenario the best.. [/quote] I'll agree with Neno on this. Dark/Heretic archers have always been a starting creature, one of the 6 basic creatures (or usually 5) that new players have access to, especially during the crucial MP3 stage where gaining even 100+ of a principle is almost impossible. Rather than modify this already helpful creature and changing it to a creature whom would only benefit higher MP levels, I like Neno Veliki and many others would prefer a new creature with the same abilities as the current archer or quite possibly a replacement for the old archer we all love. In my opinion tampering with an old creature wasn't a particularly good idea, it just limited the use of the perfectly good beginner creature.

[quote name='cryxus' date='09 November 2009 - 06:41 AM' timestamp='1257748912' post='47053'] i had put *Live Help* on GG earlier (several times) because i thought it was someone specific... im both relieved and not relieved to find out it isnt... also LH seemed to keep turning up in Marind Bell Park, and i saw Mur.. ... *sighs and mourns his burnt spells* in the name of duty [/quote] Actually that was me Coincidental huh? And now I've got pics to show off to people! Yaaayy~~

When I tried to log in today I somehow managed to get into the account of the person whom has the ID of 4 (I'll let you guys figure out who he is), I think I know what causes this to occur so I won't post what specifically happened but if a Mur or a Bugtester can PM me I'll contact you with the details ASAP. PS: The account was empty when I logged in, if there was anything on that account, please ask Mur to trace those creatures/items.

This is pretty interesting, lets see our own enclosed family prosper and grow... I believe you have made a wise choice.

[quote name='Wolfmist' date='31 October 2009 - 07:54 PM' timestamp='1257018872' post='46231'] OK ok, I admit, I was frustrated but that's no reason to be abrupt as I was. I apologise and I will be more politer next time. Thanks for your advice, I will try to follow it. [/quote] But seriously, the problem is really getting out of hand. Every head contest I've encountered/entered had at least 1 person abusing this glitch. I've tried reporting it, screenshooting it, naming offenders who have abused this glitch and possibly gathered evidence along with many others noting this but you want to know the end result? Nothing. Nothing has been done, not one single thing to address this issue. The mails I receive back always tell me that the person would be dealt with (which in this case is a lie as they always get away with it) and that the bug will be fixed but it never is and I don't think ever will be. I know that Mur has many things to do, many events to hold, many battles/creatures to tweak to make our experience much more enjoyable in this realm, but honestly, when you log out in a safe place (a remote place away from civilization) and come back 10 minutes later just to find that some b@stard has stolen your hard earned 300 heads and your creatures beaten beyond death while you were offline, it's just not cool, it's not fun.

[quote name='Grido' date='13 September 2009 - 01:09 PM' timestamp='1252843749' post='41671'] The upgrade costs for Vitality are a lot higher than is possible for that alt, therefore testing the angiens would not be possible on that account. As you can see these as soon as you purchase the Angien, it makes it a little hard to believe you, but that's just me. Mur rarely reads his pm's, so i dont rate the chances he'll read it as being likely i'm afraid. Also, as far as i'm aware, he's also the only person who can change player names. [/quote] About upgrading them, I have my ways (I've got [spoiler]4 months to farm trees[/spoiler], there's plenty of time.) As a side note: As with the "experienced" players complaining about the rewards of Angiens, 4 months is a long time to wait, WAY TOO LONG to at least reap any sort of benefit from them.

[quote name='Grido' date='13 September 2009 - 01:42 AM' timestamp='1252802544' post='41642'] yeah, i'm on the forum a lot you're telling me that you dont have a single slot in your inventory for an Angien? / that you're going to wait over 4 months to be able to test something on an alt? besides which, i could loosely translate the testing Angiens on an alt to be benefitting your main, i'm not going to, i'm just not that harsh EDIT: Just seen your previous edit, i dont imagine that'd work, and i doubt even if he did read it, that he'd do it [/quote] I've just messaged Mur (I really didn't want to do it, he's pretty busy as he already is) (<= And yes, it's somewhat contradictory from what I wrote here =.=)(I've tried my best on trying to pretend he doesn't exist >.<) As absurd as it sounds, yeah. I actually have 2 slots left, I personally just prefer to leave creatures in one account and never them transfer back. Just a quick question though, has anyone actually tried something similar to the spoiler above? I wouldn't really need them back if I could get answers. PS2: If it isn't possible to get them all renamed, then perhaps if possible just rename "Fenths Feeder" and "Fenths Wrath". I really don't need the other 2 accounts (They're MP2s and I've done experimenting with them). Thanks again!

[quote name='Grido' date='13 September 2009 - 01:01 AM' timestamp='1252800101' post='41639'] how is it possible to test anything with an Angien Egg which cant do anything? [/quote] Edit By Chewett: Spoiler removed PS: Wow, that was fast, I didn't expect an almost instant reply.

[quote name='Grido' date='12 September 2009 - 07:23 PM' timestamp='1252779800' post='41624'] you also had at least one Angien on an account, which it clearly didnt get on it's own, not that that in itself is bad, just what you'd do with it may be [/quote] Oh that's for testing the game mechanics, I don't actually play with them. I could give you a run off of what I had been able to test and what I wanted to test if you guys want but it might be a bit spoiler-ish. [quote name='Chewett' date='12 September 2009 - 06:47 PM' timestamp='1252777622' post='41623'] it can stay here, But you do relise Mur doesnt read the forums? He glances over the intresting topics, reads the ones i or anyone else points to him and leaves promptly lol [/quote] Should I give him a nudge then?

Nope, Fenth definitely ain't mine Didn't read the rules XD, I guess it's highly unlikely I'll get them back or get a name change at all, I've been here for a long time (2 years in fact) but unfortunately I haven't really made a mark or place here to be granted such a chance. (Sort of like the community recognition to UP and Lifeline, although however I have done quite a bit for the community) as with [Quote] [list] [*]You can have multiple accounts, to try out story, to experince new ways of play etc ..., however if you are detected that you are using them just to help one of your main accounts , all of them including the main will get banned. [/list] [/Quote] I'm just experiencing new ways of play, no account main account (nor any in this case) was benefited. Chewett if you could, please leave this here, I'd like it if Mur would read this and give us his own opinion before you close this (*crossing fingers*) Thanks again guys.

Hey there! some of my alts (4 to be precise) were jailed due to their name containing "Fenths". They were never meant to be shown to the public and were only intended to be mules for battles so I could understand and learn the concepts of the game, they were never meant to have a LORE nor to be confused with any of the actual objects in Magicduel (Fenths is an object right? 0.o). If possible could I ask you to rename them? Just change "Fenths" with "Felixs". (Yes I'm addicted to the letter F, and no not that F XD) Here's a list of the affected accounts: Fenths Wrath Fenths Feeder Fenths Overlord Fenths Guardian As a side note/question: Is there a head/leader for No Man's Land?

I think Lifeline deserves a chance, considering how much you've given in this community I do honestly believe you deserve them back. As a side note: If a person uses two accounts to balance each other would it be considered as an offence? And did UP get his alts back? Honestly, I personally HOPE that alts wont eventually be banned, there's a lot to abuse but there's also alot to learn from having one.

[quote name='Burns' date='09 September 2009 - 07:08 AM' timestamp='1252476536' post='41299'] i still think that those temp points should be taken off them completely, it's just WAY too easy to upgrade thigns you shouldn't have on mp3 with those... and of course people get it by buying them with their mp5 -.- i think i could give freddy (my little poor non-combat mp3) all the majestic winderwilds, full-grown trees, skill vampires etc.etc. i wanted by simply giving him an angien for each upgrade, and that can seriously not be the way it's meant to be >.< about half of the 'normal' mp3 quit after a few days because of things like Fawe and Falsh already, what would they do if EVERY alt could do such things within a month? this causes too many problems imo, way more than people raising their max VE with alt-abuse, because this hits the people at the beginning where they don't and CAN'T know how to deal with those mobs... [/quote] You're slightly mistaken here, Free credits and the HC made up my high VE. The higher-tier MP3s generally don't seek battles, we just log on every now and then. If MP3s attack us while we're idle then it's really not our fault. BACK ON TOPIC NOW: My 2 propositions or resolutions: <> If Angien bonuses are removed then so should the egg and almost all other lvl1 creatures (If we removed one, they should all be removed) <> No change needed MP3s are imbalanced as it is, the christmas event from last year would be a greater issue than this. VE is almost useless when you know how to defeat it and stat farmers outpower everyone. As a side note: removing stats bonuses for the MP3 stage would also seems like a good idea in retrospect.

[quote name='Guybrush Threepwood' date='08 September 2009 - 11:57 PM' timestamp='1252450667' post='41267'] I stated that temp stats on the Angien are not an issue at first level because it's easy to get armor. But I suppose the Ve is an issue at MP3. And it's true, it would allow people who have no idea what they're doing to get things that would be useful to them. Though, how are these people getting Angiens? I would think if they win them as some sort of reward, then go ahead and let them use it. It's a good way to reward easy quests for MP3s. [/quote] I agree with Guybrush, armor is easy to get at MP3 and if we remove this then we'd probably also need to remove the temp stats for birds. Personally I feel that if you should remove one thing then you should also remove others which are similar but of course I don't believe that it should be removed. And yes, they make fantastic rewards for MP3s (In fact, I reward people with these for solving my quests [because I'm not an RPC]), my personal opinion: Keep them the way they are, no need to change anything. Tiny comparison (no values however) [spoiler]3 Birds approx = 1 Angien At lvl 1 for temp stats[/spoiler]

[quote name='No one' date='16 August 2009 - 10:13 AM' timestamp='1250413994' post='39498'] Why should you get any rewards for attending a competition? Participating in a competition should be rewarding enough. As for TC points ... I think it is too early to know exactly what can be given as rewards. So, except from the experience of playing it you should not expect too much (soon) and if you will receive something ... it will greatly exceed your expectations have fun (and come my way ) [/quote] Of course! Don't get me wrong here, I do enjoy participating, I mean participating in the event is voluntary and if I didn't think that it was worth my time then I'd skip it. It's just that it seems quite a bit.... empty... Well anyway, hopefully the mystery will unravel itself pretty soon, I can't wait for it. XD Also it did mention something about the head of the lands (The other reason I was curious), Loreroot doesn't really have a head so how does that work?

Hi! I'm just wondering if someone could explain how the reward system for the torch contest works. I've earned points last TC too but I don't know where to spend them (If the points are like another currency) nor do I know how to earn the rewards. If someone could explain or clarify how it works I'd really appreciate it. Thanks again

[quote name='Blackwoodforest' date='14 July 2009 - 03:50 PM' timestamp='1247583020' post='37033'] And how? How do I gain honor each day? [/quote] Honor is gained by attacking someone who has a higher win/loss ratio than you, you can observe how much honor you would gain/lose if you won the battle when attacking the person. You don't automatically gain honor each day. Hoped this helped