Espartano

[quote name='Seigheart' timestamp='1336427082' post='111224']
Espartano, I was dead for 5 WEEKS. You've been dead for a few days.
Stop your whining, and find a way to revive yourself.
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[color=#ff0000]I dont care stay dead for 5 weeks in a game[/color](if that is the price for challenge someone stronger), but that time I can play hundreds of hours in others games. [size=4][color=#333333][font=arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(245, 245, 245)]what kind of game[/background][/font][/color][color=#333333][font=arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(245, 245, 245)] [/background][/font][/color][color=#333333][font=arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(245, 245, 245)]you want[/background][/font][/color][color=#333333][font=arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(245, 245, 245)] [/background][/font][/color][color=#333333][font=arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(245, 245, 245)]your players[/background][/font][/color][color=#333333][font=arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(245, 245, 245)] [/background][/font][/color][color=#333333][font=arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(245, 245, 245)]to die and[/background][/font][/color][color=#333333][font=arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(245, 245, 245)] [/background][/font][/color][color=#333333][font=arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(245, 245, 245)]leave the[/background][/font][/color][color=#333333][font=arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(245, 245, 245)] [/background][/font][/color][color=#333333][font=arial, sans-serif][background=rgb(245, 245, 245)]game?[/background][/font][/color][/size]

I at least wanted to try for the urn.

[url="http://storenow.net/my/?f=4561"]Urn for Spartiatis[/url]


I'll add the coffins later if I make them. Or add color

@ (Zl-eye-f)-nea (sorry grido that one i really want it to be visible)

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Sorry Spartiatis that noone cared for you, cared for a part of the realm we all belong.

Thank you for being with us, and rest in peace.

I hope all of us learned much of this.

Your decision was right. We deserved it. Our realm became smaller and paler again.


(edit: Alright samon... let's do it. I am not sure if he wants to come back and play tho. I will ask him.)

Sorry Spartiatis, my attempt to revive you has failed.

Good bye, and sleep well.

I hope you have learned much from this realm.

Well, then let's not accuse each other or nag about the 20 gold coins, but do something! I don't like all those people dying (and leaving).

[quote name='samon' timestamp='1340396605' post='115829']
I really don't want to accuse anyone, we're all to blame nothing happened yet and Spartiatis was the first to die. Also if we all clasp our hands together I'm sure we'll be able to bring them back in no time.
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You are right. We should have tried a few things, beyond just complaining about 20 gold coins being unfair....
(among other minor ponderings I'd seen in-game chatter over the past month.....)

[url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/12322-a-new-community-project-of-sorts/"]http://magicduel.inv...oject-of-sorts/[/url]

[url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/12327-im-the-ghost-of-sparta-goe-now-is-haunted-by-a-ghost-becareful/"]http://magicduel.inv...host-becareful/[/url]

[url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/12461-help-fyrd-call-back-all-the-spirits/"]http://magicduel.inv...ll-the-spirits/[/url]

[url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/12483-recipe-for-fyrds-bodhran-to-wake-the-dead/"]http://magicduel.inv...-wake-the-dead/[/url]

[url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/12511-revival-fruit/"]http://magicduel.inv...-revival-fruit/[/url]

[url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/12441-a-funeral/"]http://magicduel.inv...2441-a-funeral/[/url]

I think at this point, what happened is Chewett had publically said "don't bother, I'm busy right now too IRL", more than once in game, and Spartiatis seems to have left the realm, or at least not made any noise lately after:

[quote name='Espartano' timestamp='1339334964' post='114264']
Or donate my coins to anyone who is interested in using them in a revive item (not to cast in me as without my crits will not play anymore) ...
So this is a goodbye.
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edit: couldn't tell if you were being semi sarcastic, Samon. I posted these links in a light-hearted frame of mind, not to also accuse anyone, but as a reminder of what didn't work this time it seems.

I don't like the idea of an automatic revival or a resurrection without help of others. Why? Because people would find little reason to help someone who would get back after a month anyway. Many great initiatives came from dead, like Chewett's [url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/10210-ceremonial-heat-letting-for-our-dead/"]heat letting for the king[/url]; Maebius, Katt and Guillak's [url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/11666-seigheart/page__hl__heat"]heat gathering for Seigheart[/url] (and later on themselves) together with Passant's [url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/11715-we-want-them-back-declare-war-to-death/page__hl__dead"]War on Death[/url] and even Dst's [url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/11115-results-reporter-quest-who-killed-eon/page__hl__%2Breporter+%2Bquest"]ritual to make Bob bloom[/url] for Eon. Most of these efforts wouldn't be there if the dead would be resurrected after a month anyway.

It seems like everyone agrees that paying 20 Gold to revive someone is outrageous, but why has no one tried to resurrect them using a different way? Why has there been no mas heat gathering? Why has no one tried to reconstruct the ritual Dst used to get Eon back? Have the Lorerootians forgotten their laws now they no longer have a king? "To aid fellow citizens" and "To defend other Lorerootians by word and deed."

Why haven't the bringers of light brought their light to the GoE, brought the life bringing light? Especially now one of Marind Bell's own citizens has died as well.

Same goes for the rest of MD our citizens are dying and we just sit by watching idelly, telling a few to fix what we don't feel worth the trouble to work for.

Heat is the blood of all activity in MD, garthering enough heat therefore will bring back those that died, so why not stop wasting our time complaining about Grido and start bringing back the dead?

I would like to see more shared, cauldron type tools that require some of the currently useless resources.

I can count 15 of those resources only in my inventory, some new recipes and devices that use them would be nice.

Remove or lessen or put way of newby to lower viscosity

Suggestions either:
- either remove viscosity all together
- make Energetic immunity stat conter the viscosity
- make another way easylyavalable for newby to conter or totally neutralise viscosity
_ make it so that one can easyly get citisenship of each lands at will, so his loyalty gain for each land counter viscosity and gain access to tools to make wealth

Hight viscosity completely ruin some quests
Hight viscosity make exploration of MD only avalable to players with citisenship to many lands or wealtly to have thea cups or other mean to get more ap

Viscosity is one off the main deterrent for newplayers and even me with my small 105 active day having vote often, find it almost impossible to explore tribunal for exemple

[color=#ff0000][b]Hee guys why put negative rep on that post? You dont like new players?[/b][/color]

Can people shrink the images for the forum please?

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[quote]Ann. 2317 - [2012-06-04 20:22:46 - Stage 11]
[b]Development Focus[/b]
From the last post, it seems like a number of people are thinking in a different direction than we are, and want as much feedback as possible.
To get a a much broader view of what people want, we are looking for comments on anything you think we should be working on now.
Please make a topic with the first post being these instructions. Following posts should only include one "idea" that you feel should be worked on first. Ideas should be "voted" on using the reputation.
Once we get get a better idea of what specifically people are looking to be done, we can make some specific comments and open the voting again like we did before, hopefully explaining everything.
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I'm going to start by stating my opinion of what NEEDS to be done.

One of the major issues with MD are its "filters."

You guys should work to remove many of them. That will allow MD to recieve a considerable amount of players that will stay and not leave just because the filters.

I won't enter into details on forums, but if you guys want we can discuss the issue.

Why it should be done? MD needs more players

I was asked to put the other posts I made here:


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I told that maybe remove wasn't the correct word but that made them easier to overcome.

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After chatting with another vet (If he prefer i put his name). I got on to this, regarding the filters of the tutorial:

I see them all wrong as a whole.

First and in terms of numbers. The longer you wait to present a new player the real game, which is nothing related to the tutorial, more increases the chance for them to get out of the game. Currently the initial part of the tutorial is boring and to be sincere most of the basics which can be learn from that part can be compiled into a single task. Players enter into a deserted place (Paper cabin) they try to chat but unfortunately they are chatting to nobody. LHO's aren't the problem but the system that makes then start like that.

Tutorial can start with a battle. Exposing them to a real part of MagicDuel and making players eager to fight and to get involved, which reduces the amount of players that leave. (That also involves animating the battles a bit more, which can be done at once because the whole idea is a major change)

After the battle players can be introduced to PvP fights all part of the tutorial, explaining them the basis of it and all.

Finally players are given a major task, quest or whatever to learn basics and reach the principles all at once.

Story doesn't needs to be removed, but maybe let the players voluntary enter in it. This allows

1. MD story to keep up.
2. Will make players not leave telling "WTF is this about"
3. Increases by a BIG amount the players that stay.
4. Finally and by consequence MD gets bigger, better, and more fun.

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Note: If any of you would like to discuss any of this please remember to use the other topic that is open. As Burns told here and Chew to me, lets try to keep this one clean.

I would like to see a larger variety of spells that are accessible to the public.

There are literally dozens, maybe even a hundred or so spells out there.

Most people have the spells that are available in the WP Shop, but most of those spells are useless.

Lets get some more spells into the WP Shop.

Work on citizenship, no one can become a member of a land without joining an alliance, and with all these takeovers and tools requiring loyalty its entirely stupid not to have some way of becoming a normal citizen.

Hi

Isabella

filters? i did not use that word that i remember , maybe you can quote me if i used that word

as for alt and knowing the game, the only way for me to know that game was true the forum reading, true the search founction on top page, true the [url="http://md-archives.com"]http://md-archives.com[/url], true the [url="http://magicduel.wikia.com"]http://magicduel.wikia.com[/url], reading old player personnal page, even king manu page, reading some advanture log, going true some of the annoncements, true asking questions ... not being an alt of an old player

I learned doing the prince quest (i done it all, but was not award as he did ask additionnal questions above the quest required ... maybe at one time ill message him with his additionnal requirements) , doing Burns excellent first and second quest

thats what i was doing in MD, that and trying to find friends, help other new players, trying to get some player of other game to try this one ...

I did it exploring MD, i have visit all location in golemus, loreroot,MDA, maze (complete map) ,underground, marinbell that are not restricted ...

I found gazebo of equilibrium code remaining active aftrer Mur purge

I use some time solving puzzel of Fyr (excellents)

I have participate in some competition and quest as i find them avalable,and think i have a chance to do them

I have explore maybe only 70% of tribunal, the high viscosity is killing me ... and without tribunal loyalty ... or many tea cups ...

I have visit necrovion, the part that is not restricted

what have you done except making bad riddle .. riddle of old that you completely ruin in making it your own so they become not logically solvable? and not accepting logical possible altenative answers? or repying that you are in love?


whoa thats an exploit yu have, as month to solve no mans land its an exploit

Maybe instead i should have rp that i am in love ....

[quote name='Burns' timestamp='1338847522' post='113393']
Most creatures you can't upgrade nowadays you practically couldn't reach back then, either.
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The rest of your post I agree with, but this I very strongly disagree with. I had about a dozen maxed creatures (not aramors, but trees, elems, birds, a water daimon) by the time the mp4 heat limit was increased, and most of the increase I put into my 3 angies, which I grew to one level before max. In mp4. Without any exploits (I don't consider GGG-style training an exploit, and I already had a max elem and at least one max dark archer by the time I discovered it.)

That can't be done anymore.

[quote name='samon' timestamp='1338848836' post='113398']
[b]Making Heads contest a contest[/b][b] again[/b]

As most know for a while now HC hasn't been much of a contest other than for occasionally for first place, though that spot usually is taken from the start as well. Lately it has even become harder not to win if you haven't already than it has to win.

Therefore I have a few suggestions as to how to make HC a little harder:
-Make HC only available to MP4+, as MP3 can't really fight fully yet anyway, or perhaps make it MP5 only.
-Reduce the amount of winners to 3 per category.
-Reduce the amount of HCs to 4 per year, one every 3 months

With this there should at least be some increase in competition in the long run as the amount of competitors gets more concentrated in one place.
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No HC on MP3? All right, one less event for us... there is plenty we can do anyway. To be honest, I was working hard to lose those heads at the end, so I can maybe win the next contest... but well, this HC turned out to be not much of a contest. (Thank you Quizok for the long hunt in Phase 1, I enjoyed it very much:).) I am not sure forcing us to MP4 helps. Really. Personally, I am looking for fun.
By the way, the other MP level contests were different, more active, better? I was checking the contest log all the time... I am not sure about the answer.

Do not force us to move on to MP4. Please. Give us time and fun.

Hi

samon

Yes i was putoff by the negative rep, would i had nonly remain at 0 it would have not bother me

Just seeing that neg rep made me think that one voice asking to making life for actual newby more interesting was missing

I agree, my suggestions maybe not the best , but i still think that veterant should think more of new players, and use there knowledge of the game and the problems it as encounter to find ways of making the game more friendly to new players

My constat reading forum, is that if one took picture of what is now and what was say 2 years earlier is quite different
some game change where made to solve probably problems
but i have the opinion that some of those change , change the life of a new players for the worst (if you add up all those) ... i was not there i may be mistaken overall, but its what i perceive

so my voice is not give me all, not remake MD, but please try to find ways to make MD more interesting for starting new players

Hi
[b] [url="../../user/2272-liberty4life/"]Liberty4life[/url][/b]

Lets talk about view points

ok one can see it viewing with the veterant view, he as play a long time, as play many alts, know the game fully in mechanic and locations and combats, as access to many powerfull and wealty friends and his new alt can have access to tools, gift of powerfull creatures not avalable , and shop or anniversary creatures .... he also as access to powerups (tea) and spells (that tele everywhere) ... he as earn that with time , he as pay his dues

But that veterant may forget things like
- when he started, there was no viscosity ....
- when he started he was even foot, as most tools came in being as the play along and there was not loyalty requirement at that time
- there was not limitation on mp3 for creature levels, or experience cap
- when he started, alt where encourage , and without any limitations, one could boost his alt any way he wanted, make tens of them, to get free credit, put token, age creatures, make win on them ...

so looking at all those goodies that where avalable to him as he stated and played ... seem to me he was on "steroid" compare to the limitations of new players , and now those limitations dont bother him, he as tools, wealth, powerfull friends, and spells plus his knowledge of the game

Compare the actual life of a new players

- explore or quest : high viscosity without boosters
- no tools to get wealth
- restriction on alt now, so he cant make same trics of boosting like the old one did

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the question one veterant should ask himself is yes i have things i earn it but
if i was a new player starting now ... what fun would it be? what would be my options?

you had problems, with stat grinding, alt abuse to boost with creatures ganing wealth and oarding tools, solutions to that is good, but is the remedy worst long time than the problems, or is it possible to balance remedies to still making it an interesting game for new players?

hmm intresting but i can see both sides of the argument.
EON sorry but your attitude is a big issue in this that i can see.

in game yrth wants vengence on you but after all you are the evil one in his eyes.
out of game and from what little i see of you talking sorry but i cannot respoect someone whom is so blantly obnoxious
and has a whole mighter then thou attatued.

Out of game i have no issues with you hell i dont care much for what you have to say and i have never had to interact with you.

in game you where given a role to manage and run and make fun. 3/4 people playing in the BHc one of them beeing you
how is that not setting yourself up for winning? you are by far stronger then most in game and cause a lot of damage.
a compition of just3/4 is not a competition. that is far to few and putting your self in is fine but doing it and gaining
from it is just pure abuse of what you are suppose to be doing.

If you are serious about walking away it just shows to me how you did not actualy care about running the BHC
and now that the council took a trust point (that so far i see as a valid thing to do) you throw the rattle out of the pram.
so far the picture i see of you is of one whom is a spoilt brat.

I wish i could say something nicer but i cant as in game i see you as a bully and so far out of game well i already said
what i see.

Ether way walk away to me it is best that you do.

All i see is people moaning and not actualy suggest much to reslove thing and making treath
sorry but i though Awi you better then silly things like that. i start loosing respet of thoes
the complain and do nothing it is just sad

Wow wow wow people. We can argue a lot of council's decisions, but this one was spot on.
They presented some problems regarding BHC:
-Lack of people competing
-Conflict of interests due to Eon participating in a contest which rules he forms

All they did was point that out and offer few suggestions (and decrease a trust point from Eon, but he would have had them more left, and it's kinda deserved, because of the mentioned points and the general discontent of the public).
As soon as he got that, he rage-quits.
It is Eon's job to make the BHC work, it's not his private property.

Sure, we all understand Eon's "uneasiness" regarding council's lack of doing/fixing things, but it's the case with all of us, not just with him. There's even an urban myth that Dst and Eon get all of their requests done!

Okay, you don't like the council, but be objective.


Edit: We all know Mur is absent for quite some time, and we don't know for how much longer will it be the case. The authority of MD at the moment is the council, they are supposed to make sure things work, so, change certain details if things are going wrong in some situations. Eon hiding behind "Mur said so" and "Mur is my captain" mask is not that elegant at all.

EPIC!! =))

Nice... I really enjoyed it.

Actually you can also unfriend Rhaegar by saying:

-Serbia is not the centre of the world.
-You sold one of his savellite stuff to Firs.

And Burns by just poking him or Proving to him that he's wrong (even though he wont accept it >.>)

[quote name='Isabella Finch' timestamp='1339266626' post='114210']
Completely ooc here.. What happens with him now? Was this person seriously just run from the game because not enough people would offer coins for a revival or heat for a revival? Does he have to start completely over now or what? I tried to collect coins and people kept insisting the heat thing would work. He even had money tied up in the game and he is forced to quit? I'm not fully understanding this.
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[quote name='Tom Pouce' timestamp='1339267668' post='114214']
I wonder
is it possible thats still a greath magic make him resurect?
is it possible that he make a will to transfer all his possessions to a Spartiatis jr?
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In this game you can kill a character, but can not transfer a creature you paid $ 51 + for yourself. as you may have noticed in other posts I did about it. then surely it is offtopic here. Also same for pay for revive, just to get killed again will be ridiculous.

would be more funny to use the GC I got to hire an assassin against my murderer.
Or donate my coins to anyone who is interested in using them in a revive item (not to cast in me as without my crits will not play anymore) ...

So this is a goodbye.

Okay, let's assume that the powers that be allow Fyrd Argentus's Bodhran (irish drum) to be converted to a cauldron-type item. Assume that it's function is to take some sort of vegetable matter from the community garden, some fenths, some wiyaa, whatever else is required, and create a pickled something-or-other that can revive the dead.

We'll need a recipe.

Now, I don't want to be accused of buying stuff with wp codes..... so IF AND ONLY IF there are at least 3 viable entries, and there must be some sort of judging based on artistic merit, then a wp will be offered as prize.

If there are fewer viable entries, I will compensate said entries commensurate with my own goods and services on a negotiated basis, for the right to use said code, possibly modified, for my purpose.

This is all about getting a community method of reviving the dead, folks, so let's see your best efforts!

Post here that you have intention to submit, then send files as you finish, privately, in case there is to be a judging.