Root Admin Muratus del Mur Posted July 20, 2011 Root Admin Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Tribunal - Dominion of Mur - Coat of Arms [attachment=3061:MagicDuel_Dominion_of_Mur.png] Seigheart, Luke27, (Zl-eye-f)-nea and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Love it. Also find it very interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubaris Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Uroborus, the observing eye... fancy, fancy. Will the coat of arms of the mainlands be implemented soon as well, as planned before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Muratus del Mur Posted July 20, 2011 Author Root Admin Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 no. soubtle differences, a lot more power to the meaning, more elaborated and less clean than the "snake thing". notice the 8+1 (you see it?, what about blue and black? not colors, or the connection between 3&4), anyway a lot more i can say, this is a masterpiece at symbol level and i am not shy to brag about it. The problem is that the meaning of the M&T, even if they fit both with Tribunal and Mur and with my name initials, they are not letters. The lines have an other meaning, one that is so powerful that i am sure this symbol was used before, probably in religious context. Therefore, i will start a challange..offering a nice reward for whoever finds the MT combined in exactly this way somehwere else. Don't worry about the wings and such, the angles come from Egypt i think i will tattoo this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmaster Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 Awesome love the black and white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowseeker Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 That symbol reminds me of....dripping blood. Surprisingly I can't seem to find it in this combination, perhaps because it seems too dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted July 20, 2011 Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 After conducting some interesting research into the Land Logo, I have come to the following conclusions: The "MT" symbol is the resulting morphing of the old pharmacology sign meaning [i]blend/mix[/i]. (Suiting for this symbol to appear after Mur's introduction of the Cauldron.) The differentiation( 5 spheres at the end of each straight line, and the additional line resulting in the T) from the "MT" symbol could stand for the completion of the mixture. (I am probably stretching here...) Mur has been looking for the correct mixture of Lands, and with the addition of the Tribunal, that might mean the completion of the Blend. The two "dragons" along the sides of the sphere are simply the incorporation of Mur's self professed "favourite" symbol... the MagicDuel symbol. It can be seen here: [center][IMG]http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/3236/birdblank.jpg[/IMG][/center] The incorporation of the two "dragons" seems to coincide with the symbol of the Pilot. If MagicDuel were a Plane. Mur would be the Pilot. And everyone else would be the "passengers" or the "co-pilots" or a mixture of both. An interesting concept. [center][IMG]http://harmon1.org/gifs/wings.gif[/IMG][/center] The most interesting part of this symbol is probably the tiny little sphere at the top of the symbol, between the two "dragons". It is interesting because of what is in it, and where it is placed. It appears to be a figure 8. A figure 8 can mean anything from eternity. For those of you who want to read something rather entertaining, please read this. It is about the number 8. I thought it was insightful into the personality of Mur. [url="http://www.spiritual-numerology.com/numerology-number-meaning/numerology-meaning-of-number-8.html"]Number 8[/url] I have many more theories about the meaning of each section but each is just as far fetched as these... LOL I hope you enjoyed reading. Phantom Orchid, Chewett, Watcher and 2 others 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Muratus del Mur Posted July 20, 2011 Author Root Admin Report Share Posted July 20, 2011 It incorporates the secret ingredient/clue to the SotIS symbols challenge ..its actualy highly related to that. The ends of the MT lines end in 8 points, placed strategically to for a square and its middle points. The eight point that was supposed to be on top is replaced by the tiny circle you compared with an 8. Its not 8 but its all about 8. For whoever knows about seals and such, the placement of those line speaks for itself. Not only this one is highly difficult to "break or "seal" but with the snake/dragon heads around it and the missing point above, makes it brag about this particularity in a very arogant way. The wings mean something else not flying, its a trait of a certain type of nobility, protective power, supremacy. The slight angle down and not perfectly horizontal is essential to the meaning i wanted. It takes out the "hope" part and gives the symbol more raw power. [img]http://www.urbanlifestyle.ro/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Rio-Jesus1.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.ancientegyptonline.co.uk/images/isis5.jpg[/img] (in general in Egypt the :attitude: of the wings was however different, i inteded a more masculine/warrior attitude, but wings still mean that noble supremacy. same: [img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nu9IPI9bqyg/SoBL4ioTAQI/AAAAAAAAA2Y/JcHQbDl16zs/s1600/nazi+eagle.gif[/img] Anyway.. some things could be better but hey its just a land, not a nazi coat of arms prepared to takeover the world :|..lol.. For its purpose is perfect.Oh and the decorations in Tribunal land, the 3 stripes, fit perfectly with the 3 lines in the coat of arms. 3 is a deceiving number here because it stands out but as soon as you look better you notice its 5, then its 7 then its 8, then 8+1 . chained reaction Vicious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke27 Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Okay I'll go ahead and say this. I may be wrong but I'd like to see how [color="#FF0000"]Mur[/color] would react to my short but informational finds. Firstly the M&T in the coat of arms represent a 8-point star which is very symbolic around the world and the 8-point star is the very symbol of "early astronomy, interconnectedness, and faith in the ultimate harmony of Creation."To be honest I didn't notice that the circle on top was part of the 8-point star and wondered why there's a point on the middle then I found this, “The octagon, with a ninth point in the center, is also central to the mystical symbology of Sufism. It is the seal or design which Ernest Scott says ‘reaches for the innermost secrets of man’. Meaning wholeness, power and perfection, this primary geometrical symbol is one which Sufis associate with Shambhala …” With that in mind it's very clear to me that this symbol also symbolizes the Sotis because "An eight-point star enclosed within a circle was the symbol for the sun god." The members of the Sotis will be the "servants" of the sun god or rather the members will be components of the sun which [color="#FF0000"]Mur[/color] is still searching for to create his "Sun." And this all that I can find. I wonder if I'm correct? P.S. Here's the link where I quoted my information from. -> [url="http://moroccandesign.com/eight-point-star"]Eight-Point Star[/url] Watcher and Phantom Orchid 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubaris Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 I know the difference. You interrupted the circle of Uroborus, just like with your 'Tomato' circle Regarding finding the exact combination of M and T... Only similar thing I found was this: http://www.kandaceacademy.org/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/hwemudua.gif It's called Hwemudua. Symbolizes aim towards best quality. Tho I am pretty sure that that T is phallocentric Naughty Mur! I'll try to find the exact combination, tho... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipu Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Wow !!! I just realized my Avatar is a counter symbol of Tribunal land logos. [IMG]http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv291/kvsubash/Ravanakill.jpg[/IMG] Well If u Decode my forum avatar this is what u will get : Tipu Kidnaps a Girl And there Comes the hero the Wing man: "Iam the God cos' i got wings and i will stop Ur Rudeness" Tipu : "Ho yeah eat This". Tipu cuts the wings of the wing man. And runs away with the girl [IMG]http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv291/kvsubash/TipuKidnap.jpg[/IMG] Tipu and the girl happily lived ever after. Well If u notice carefully i got 9 heads symbolizing the cardinal and inter-cardinals points of a Transmutation Circle (Only a alchemy can understand what iam talking about). N,NE,E,SE,S,SW,W,NW,Z. (Z not the goat man hehe but represent the Zenith of the the body). But the Tribunal Logo got 8 points, they missed the important 9th Point Ho yes the zenith. Simply to say they got no defense if attacked from Air. Tipu can Avoid a bird Pooping but a tribunal members can't. Perhaps it is done on purpose for a greater cause. As far as the M&T goes : Its simple, Mur's M tries to brainwash innocent people but Tipu's T appears in front of M and saves the World. Seigheart, Pipstickz, dst and 8 others 2 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Pashweetie Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Thumbs up good coat of arms. Pipstickz, Kaya, Muratus del Mur and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaya Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 @Tipu Mur said there are 8+1 points, so it has a 9th point. The wings and the circle represent the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winged_sun"]winged sun[/url]. It represents Horus or Ra and divinity, royalty and power. The winged sun also symbolises the eternal soul. The snakes represent the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uraeus"]Uraeus[/url] which often flank the disk and represent sovereignty, royalty, deity, and divine authority. Only rather than protect the sun disc they look like they would be fighting each other if they weren't tied together by their tails. Therefore it could possibly be seen as a symbol that prevents a divine war. An other reason the snakes are tied together is probably to prevent them from completely closing of the sun. They block away the mayor part of the center but there still is an opening on the top which allows you to enter, if only you dare to face the snakes. [img]http://www.egyptartsite.com/images/wing.GIF[/img] [size="1"]The winged sun [/size]For some reason to me the bottom seems to be a lot better protected then the top, mostly because the MT symbol mainly points down. The top point looks to me like a seed, and symbolises the origin of the east. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Muratus del Mur Posted July 31, 2011 Author Root Admin Report Share Posted July 31, 2011 that is a good point there. Also notice the TB map, _east is up_. East is a symbol not a direction too much. A very very interesting point of view is about the symbol being protected in the lower part more than the upper. For that alone you get access to the border research forum area, if you don't have it already please talk to chewett about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackshan Bemunah Posted November 26, 2013 Report Share Posted November 26, 2013 (edited) It's neither exact nor religious, but since I keep trying to find where the symbol appears in the world and this seems to be the answer...even though I can't even find a picture that shows what I'm thinking... http://www.haleypestcontrol.com/files/CELLAR%20SPIDER%20UPSIDE%20DOWN.jpg Symbol is like a spider making its thread upward. Edited November 26, 2013 by Ackshan Bemunah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenTao Posted December 22, 2013 Report Share Posted December 22, 2013 I am reminded of the scales as look upon the M balancing on the T- I am somehow also seeing the Egyptian Ankh as well as a compass pointing north. The design looks like it could be part of a Automobile company's logo a sports car with a manual transmission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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