(Zl-eye-f)-nea Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 The issue is that the sponsorship he is giving is TK sponsorship and that it's a WP. That's the issue. I agree with Rhaegar in post 15. Z Ackshan Bemunah, Watcher, Sparrhawk and 4 others 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tal Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 [quote name='Ackshan Bemunah' timestamp='1345752006' post='120894'] Seig is in a position where he thinks the revival quest needs additional sponsorship, yet has a personal stake. The appopriate solution is that this muchneeded sponsorship come from another source (probably not council unless absolutely necessary): But somehow all those who could do thhis have a personal stake....AGAINST SEIGHEART...putting him in a REALLY AWFUL position. [/quote] the quest only has been running for a few weeks, since its beginning, seig has begun offering gold for someone to defeat the guards for him, raising his offer, till he now, (imo) is using TK stock to get himself revived. we are not putting him in an awfull position, he is doing it himself, Watcher, Sasha Lilias, Chewett and 7 others 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 I didn't create a quest. I am simply sponsoring it. Who the hell said I am creating a quest? Molquert created a quest. I am sponsoring it. Ackshan Bemunah, Chewett, dst and 4 others 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimrodel Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 As Chewy said.. Why not just contact the council about it? End of discussion... Chewett, Watcher and Ackshan Bemunah 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pothos Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 [cquote]The topic of using an official Treasure Keeper position to sponsor a quest that would ultimately benefit the one sponsoring, is a conflict of interest. We always encourage those with official roles never to involve themselves as a player with their role and where these instances occur, to always act as a player and not the official character. Molquert is an in game "puzzle", a revival mechanism, and not a quest which as such needs sponsorship. He's perfectly capable of rewarding players if he thinks someone deserves a reward, so he shouldn't have sponsorship forced upon him. He doesn't want to be on this plane of existence, he wants to be gone from here as fast as he can be. The majority of the community have spoken here and said they don't think its fair, and we agree with this. Seigheart should withdraw the sponsorship and communicate privately with Molquert if he needs any rewards. Molquert should be the one to decide this and not Seigheart. Any personal sponsorship is allowed to as you are permitted to do anything with your coin. MagicDuel Council[/cquote] Ackshan Bemunah, Phantom Orchid, Eon and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 Alrighty. The sponsorship is revoked for now. Kaya, Ackshan Bemunah, Pipstickz and 6 others 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curiose Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Jeez. Took bout ten people to say nay, yet fenrir fought. One anon "group" says say, he receeds without a peep. Wonder what this says bout him. ignnus, dst, Ackshan Bemunah and 2 others 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipstickz Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 That he cares more about The Council's opinion than the opinion of a bunch of people who seem to dislike him and, from his perspective, would gladly see him fail at everything. I find it commendable that he keeps trying with all this discouragement, even if he does it dumb sometimes. ignnus, Chewett, Watcher and 7 others 5 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Whether you want it or not, Thank you Pip. No one, Maebius, ignnus and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowseeker Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) [img]http://s10.postimage.org/yv19vrapz/conditions.png[/img] Edit: a link as well since the picture doesn't load somehow. http://s10.postimage.org/yv19vrapz/conditions.png Molquert says you changed your mind about not wanting to be revived after you said only a week ago you do not want to. So here are my conditions- I personally think you should stay dead. But, if you wish to live, prepare what I ask for and I shall try to have Molquert revive you. Edited August 29, 2012 by Shadowseeker Phantom Orchid and Watcher 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 First off, I never said I didn't want to be alive. I need to be alive for my quests that I have planned and to easily do my job as TK. I said that it's pointless being alive if I am just going to be killed over and over again. Watcher, No one, ignnus and 3 others 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowseeker Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 [quote name='Seigheart' timestamp='1345652510' post='120746'] There is no reason for anyone to revive me. If anything, [b]I'd rather that they didn't,[/b] because I'd just be killed immediately again. [/quote] Pardon me for [s]mis[/s]reading that as I do not wish to live. [quote name='Seigheart' timestamp='1345667673' post='120774']No. I do not think it is, because that would imply that being killed is a permanent negative effect. [b]Or that being "alive" is something that is a reward[/b], not a normal state. A normal state is NOT a reward or a benefit of any kind. It's something that is the norm. Right? So, in my eyes [b]it is not a reward[/b]. Of any kind. [/quote] Pardon me again for thinking you do not value "life". Thus, no need for revival, right? [quote name='Seigheart' timestamp='1346261010' post='121239'] First off, I never said I didn't want to be alive. [b]I need to be alive[/b] for my quests that I have planned and to easily do my job as TK. I said that it's pointless being alive if I am just going to be killed over and over again. [/quote] If you need to be alive, then doesn't it mean you do value it after all? Pardon me for [s]mis[/s]reading it once more. You know my conditions. I shall wait. Watcher, dst, Phantom Orchid and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 I don't know of any such conditions. I obviously value life, because I want to be alive so that I don't have to rely on others to do things. But I am indifferent for whether I am alive or dead. Why is that so hard to understand? No one, Watcher, Phantom Orchid and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowseeker Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 I was told by a few people the image I posted no longer works. I edited it a bit ago now to give a seperate link, because forums seem to be broken in that regard right now, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipstickz Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Seigheart' timestamp='1346271439' post='121243'] I obviously value life, because I want to be alive so that I don't have to rely on others to do things. But I am indifferent for whether I am alive or dead. Why is that so hard to understand? [/quote] If you won't put effort in, why should anybody else? We are a community, collaboration is the easiest way to do things. Edited August 29, 2012 by Pipstickz ignnus, Chewett, Aelis and 5 others 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 I am not a part of the community, I am excluded as many of you have made very clear.I will attempt to gather these ten individuals. Pipstickz, Tal, No one and 8 others 5 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Orchid Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 My 2 cents: Despite the different groups/factions/friends/enemies, you -are- part of the MD community. Everyone is, and we should value each other as such - despite any (in-game) deathwish we may have against one another. Ackshan Bemunah, dst, ignnus and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plix Plox Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 Why are people hating on Seigheart anyways? No one and Ackshan Bemunah 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARK DEMON Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 [quote name='kellox' timestamp='1346399778' post='121279'] Why are people hating on Seigheart anyways? [/quote] LOL I wonder the same thing! It seems every one of his posts MUST have neg rep! Ackshan Bemunah and No one 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grido Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 (edited) From what I figure, it's because he has a....colourful past, and some people have long memories. The same people have developed a general dislike for him and it's spread a bit. There are other factors, a general dislike of his personality being one, but get to know him, make your own mind up about that. Edited August 31, 2012 by Grido Ackshan Bemunah and No one 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plix Plox Posted August 31, 2012 Report Share Posted August 31, 2012 [quote name='Grido' timestamp='1346423166' post='121289'] From what I figure, it's because he has a....colourful past, and some people have long memories. The same people have developed a general dislike for him and it's spread a bit. There are other factors, a general dislike of his personality being one, but get to know him, make your own mind up about that. [/quote] Never see him around since he's...dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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