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Killing Fixed Creatures don't count for win/loss


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True Victories and True Losses (The V & L with the X on them) only shift your balance when you are not Permanently Balanced. Creatures themselves should still be getting wins though. I do agree it's odd it says it will when it clearly won't though, but I believe this is just a small oversight.

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Oh, ok that makes sense. So, if memory serves, for MP3, the battle laws are a bit different. They can only get True Victories or True Losses (no Half Wins or Half Losses like MP4 & MP5)... So yes, this is indeed a bug, my sincerest apologies. He should be gaining either a Win or a Loss with every single battle.

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NPCs which grant keys - such as the Shop Guardians - will not increment one's wins or losses regardless of the outcome, nor will they grant heat scars. This, I believe, is intended behaviour, to encourage combat with other players, and also to avoid being capped by NPCs.

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1 hour ago, Kaya said:

I believe none of the NPCs/MP2 give wins/losses, but I know for sure at least the unholy did give heat.

I did find many pitfalls in creating this character; it is through this that I did discover that if it should grant a key, it should also not grant of aught else.

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On 5/29/2021 at 3:30 AM, Fang Archbane said:

Oh, ok that makes sense. So, if memory serves, for MP3, the battle laws are a bit different. They can only get True Victories or True Losses (no Half Wins or Half Losses like MP4 & MP5)... So yes, this is indeed a bug, my sincerest apologies. He should be gaining either a Win or a Loss with every single battle.

To be clear, and not spread misinformation, this is not a bug and he should not be for this case.

On 5/29/2021 at 5:39 AM, Aia del Mana said:

NPCs which grant keys - such as the Shop Guardians - will not increment one's wins or losses regardless of the outcome, nor will they grant heat scars.

This is the correct answer

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