Jubaris Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 [attachment=2126:REPORT.JPG] [img]http://www.jasonchanart.com/gallery/2005/unicorn/swordsman_02.jpg[/img] Ravenstrider ran up on this... I have this avatar in my fault, and it seems pretty clear that it was copied by an MD artist from this site. Too bad, I kinda liked that old avatar. Seigheart, Sparrhawk and Ravenstrider 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 (edited) Although there are distinct similarities, they are not identical, nor seem to be copied. A major influence perhaps, but many elements are missing from the alleged copied avatar. Edit: I spotted almost a full dozen major differences. I do not think it is a copy. Edited November 9, 2010 by Vicarious adiomino, No one, Sparrhawk and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mya Celestia Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 [color="#8B0000"][font="Palatino Linotype"]That avatar was around for a long time. Is the date on the picture older than a year? [/font][/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenstrider Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 (edited) If that is not copied work, I don't know what is... If five or six different details are just going to mark it "influenced", then I should start copying positions from the internet and just adding my details. The forum post I found was from December the 3d 2009. But I'm guessing the artwork itself is older than that. I'm searching for the original as I'm typing this. Edit: Artwork was originaly done in 2005 by an artist called Jason Chan, as a part of his Sorceres and Unicorn "series". http://www.jasonchanart.com/gallery/2005/unicorn/swordsman_02.jpg Edited November 9, 2010 by Ravenstrider Jubaris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowseeker Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 As for the differences..if you look closely, the only things done were simplyfying the original artworks (e.g. the gloves) and moving the sword from the back instead to the hip.. Clearly copied. Would be nice to know who sumbmitted it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravenstrider Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 It was before the artisan disbandment, since the artist tag says Magic Duel... Only way to know for sure is to go trough all the avatars one by one and look for similar style... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 (edited) Okay, you guys are missing HUGE details. The character's right hand, the cape is not by the fingers, but by the wrist. The folds of the skirt cape thing on the character's left leg is folded differently. The shoes are completely different. The leather strap on the big picture's chest is not there on the smaller one. The smaller one has a vest on... The eye patch is gone. The hair is laying over his ear, where as the big picture has his ear clearly showing These are all MAJOR differences people... Edited November 10, 2010 by Vicarious Rendril, Pipstickz, Sparrhawk and 5 others 4 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparrhawk Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 There not "MAJOR" differences though are they. It appears to be blatant imo. If i take a sketch of superman change the symbol to a D and invert it that doesnt make it an original its a copy with [u]minor[/u] changes made in an attempt to claim it as my own. No one and Jubaris 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus X Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 i can trace that Jason Chan character, replace the eye-patch with sun glasses, shorten the hair to a crop, lose the sword and cape, put a pistol on both hands, and replace the boots with a cowboy's. would that be copying? if you talk about positions, i dont believe theres not a single position that hasnt been drawn yet. look at comics... the angles may be slightly different, the shapes and the sizes, the lithe or the bulk of the characters but they all have similarities (im talking about human or superhuman, if you will, characters here). but theres no copyrighted positions that i know of so you can copy positions, even styles, but the look can be more controversial. its 'possible' that the MD avatar one is not a copy but is it 'probable'? its probably a copy, by the looks of it, imho. i say if you take a balance scale and place the two avatars on each side, they'd weigh exactly the same despite the other being gold. Menhir 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Chewett Posted November 10, 2010 Root Admin Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 its a trace with a couple details changed. It should be removed from game because it is such a blantent trace. The author obviously found this and copied/drew whatever with it. And MD boosts that it has its OWN unique artwork. This is neither its own, nor unique. Kyphis the Bard and No one 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Marvolo Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 Do you mean "paper on paper held to light" trace? as in, 2 papers upon eachother and draw it? I don't think that was done, since there are details that suggest otherwise. I'm not against copying a pose (as in, seeing how the anatomy works, and proportions), but this is too obvious the same thing. Wasn't it stormrunners avy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamisha Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 This blatantly traced with small differences introduced perhaps just moved. Look at both the right hands the sword though moved to the hilt is the same design the artist could have just twisted the paper about 20 degrees and put it over top of there. The angle he is facing is exactly the same. Though I would like to mention this is not in complete violation because some things have been changed. Such as the sword position and ect.Though I don't think this gives MD a good image. For example its like making a movie based on real events but just shifting enough that you don't have to pay the people who you interviewed to re-account it. If this image is removed (which I think it should) it should be incorporated into the rules or used as an example to show one of the things that should not be done. I just think its much too similar too not be a trace. P.S. The amount of time that it has been on the server and not found as well as the gold color is intriguing though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Mystery Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 (edited) This copying. Same Pose, almost the same clothing "style" and thus makes it a copy. Basically the elements of it is the same. What i would not say is a copy, if [b]ONLY[/b] the pose is copied. For example, instead of putting a cape, put something else.. maybe a headdress. then could change the hair sytle, and face expression, and also maybe change the Body anatomy. But this is almost exactly the same... like where the cape, crosses the body etc. Edited November 10, 2010 by Mr Mystery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubaris Posted January 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Bump. The avatar is still in my inventory. Kyphis the Bard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Chewett Posted January 31, 2013 Root Admin Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 i shall look at removing this. thanks for bumping it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Chewett Posted February 24, 2013 Root Admin Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 This should have been removed and you should have been refunded some credits. Kyphis the Bard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubaris Posted February 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2013 It got removed and I received a credit or two. Thanks for taking care of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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